[Q] JuiceDefender Ultimate - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone have experience with this app on the ThunderBolt? I just purchased it and was really impressed with the advanced options.

I have it but I haven't used it in awhile. It helps a little, but don't expect miracles. I don't think it's worth $5. You are better off buying a spare or extended battery.

I've used it since I had the incredible use it on the droid x and now i use on the thunderbolt I've always had good results with it's always got me quite a bit of extra battery life but the same time I am using an extended battery on the thunderbolt I can push a good 18 to 22 hours and that's running 4 g consistently
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In my opinion its a joke
you can get the same results by doing everything manually
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Turning off your data connection when you aren't using it will help a lot of people in 4g areas...sure you can do it manually, but this is eaiser...

superchilpil said:
In my opinion its a joke
you can get the same results by doing everything manually
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This is just an unhelpful reply. Sure you can always do almost everything manually that an app does but alot of people like automation, which you generally are going to pay for. Does the App help, I used it a lot on my OG Droid and it did help, I have not installed it on my TBolt but I think I will and give it a try again, it also has a free version so give it a try and see if it help, the worst thing you have to do is uninstall it.

didnt help much for me. I am bamf 1.86 with control freak kernel and its saving batt very well.

I regret spending the money on it. Definitely try the free version. It seemed like a good idea but a few days after buying the app, I learned how to use my phone and android and ended up liking manual configuration A LOT more, and getting way more battery life without sacrificing anything I need.
Rooted Thunderbolt on BAMF Sense 3.0 RC 4 with MR2 radio and latest dreamKernel.

Sometimes it helps, but other times it kills the battery. Turning the radio on and off seems to kill the battery too.
My ADR6400L is just as good as your PG86100.

I have seen where it will fail to turn the mobile data back on without a reboot
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I'm just wondering, does it really helps a lot? Because I'm running the free ver and it's not that effective.... does it really worth $8? I;ve been thinking this back and forth..

not much for me,

I tried JD on my TB when I got it, then paid for the upgrade, a few roms later I uninstalled it for all the reasons mentioned. Worse battery life, at times it would not re-enable mobile data. To be completely honest, once you pay for the extra stuff, you may not use it as much as you think you would (I didn't).
The competitor Green power is more user friendly, updated often and in my experience provided slightly better battery life. The "pro" version of that is less than JD and the only difference between free and PRO is the night functions. If you plug you phone in overnight, you don't need the pro version of green power.
In the end, I don't use either anymore. Once I got to know my phone I set things up manually.

thunderbread said:
I've used it since I had the incredible use it on the droid x and now i use on the thunderbolt I've always had good results with it's always got me quite a bit of extra battery life but the same time I am using an extended battery on the thunderbolt I can push a good 18 to 22 hours and that's running 4 g consistently
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That is horrible, unless your are using your phone every second.

i installed the free version and it has dramaticallly helped my battery life. and i am constantly using my phone

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i installed the free version and it has dramaticallly helped my battery life. and i am constantly using my phone
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the free version is all you need
just enabled the free version after you install it that's all you need
it does helps

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[Q] I need some serious help with my battery.

I'm currently running Kenneth's latest Alien ROM and I get a battery life of about 6 hours. I've tried letting the battery die out , fully charging, then doing a battery wipe. Also tried Jug's fix. All they seem to fix is a battery jump issue but I wish that was all it was. Any other things that might help? I really don't have the money for a new battery.
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+1 same issue here. All 2.3.4 roms. And cm7 2.3.5 now.
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Have you tried charging to 100% wipe battery stats in cwm then letting it run down till the phone dies and plugging it in without turning the phone on?give it a full charge from there should improve things some way.
Scotty, you win the award for clearly not reading the op. Congratulations on making yourself look like a retard.
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excuse me?Nowhere in the first post do I see mention of the phone being turned off while charging oh and -1 for the term you used its not good.
Your first post is the exact same result as the op. Therefore, spam.
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Easy, killer
jbrussee said:
Your first post is the exact same result as the op. Therefore, spam.
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You are really mean dude; take it easy.
To the op:
I'm actually not having this problem... Getting great battery life. I get like 8 hours of talk time, 6+ hours of web browsing or days of standby. Have to charge like every other day. Running Alien 3. That's not too helpful I guess, but know that it may be some weird configuration you have.
Read and follow the instructions in this thread guys -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Thanks xploited. I'll give that a shot. the weird thing now is that I get 100% and 4200mV in the battery calibration app. It doesn't make sense. It's apparently fully charged but as of now it's dropped about 10% in about 20 minutes.
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Confirmed that xploited's "fix" doesn't work.
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Sounds like your battery may just have a problem. Do you know anyone else w/an Atrix that you could swap batteries for like an hour and see if the problem follows the battery?
@epoh The only other person I know that has one lives about 2.5 hours away lol.
It kinda makes me curious if an SBF flash back to 1.83 would fix it. I only had this issue after flashing HKTW on a low battery.
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Have you tried AURA 1.1.1 ROM?
I don't know if you even want to give any other ROM a shot, but I have used Alien ROM # 2, too many issues and was not patient enough.
Flashed AURA 1.1.1, after that 2 issues with my battery are fixed, one is the battery life, I usually get around 15 hours from fully charged at 8 AM when I leave for work, so I usually charge just once a day. Second issue with Alien was my phone was overheating like a frying pan.
It just happened with any other ROMs I have tried so far but with AURA maximum temp I have seen on my phone is not more than 38 Degree C. With other ROMS it was just above 38 all the time.
If you don't mind flashing different ROM, try it.
Basically what I do is load into CMW
Wipe Battery Stats
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Wipe Cache
Wipe Data
Install ZIP
Reload Phone and use it for a bit
Process the battery stats wipe cycle twice
Battery is just normal now
Good Luck
It seems to me to be obvious issues with GB right now..which is disappointing because I was expecting it to get better. I went from 16+ hours of usage (with 2-4hrs of onscreen time) to about 8-10. I've went from Orange 2.3.4 to CherriPi now to Alien #3 with both the 1.1 o/c kernel as well as the stock kernel..with no improvements. I did notice a slight improvement when I turned the Social Applications from Push to 60mins..but still am nowhere near where I was with Froyo (yes..I've tried xploited's tips as well). I know its not my apps or configurations because none of that has changes since 2.2..
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Confirmed that xploited's "fix" doesn't work.
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If you want people to help, you need to be more specific.
What exactly have you tried and what results did you get?
I guess I'll give Aura a shot. KP has some great concepts but I only have the battery issues on his ROM.
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Can I ask real quick some questions? First off what do you have running as far as processes, cause for instance if Tune in Radio is left on running in background it KILLS my battery life. If I forget to exit it. Also, did you freeze any bloatware that alien didn't? example. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459 Also, what kernel are you using? Are you overclocking? Over / undervolting? Just trying to get a better idea of what's up unless I missed it in a previous post. But I think I read em' all.
@phalanx I haven't frozen anything. I'm using the last Alien full build including kernel. The only apps I have installed are facebook, google+, and XDA premium app. The thing that is supposedly killing my battery is phone idle. It's doing slightly better today than it has been. It says it's got about 10 hours so far. But it's still nowhere near the 12-16 I used get.
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did you flash the GB radio as well?
it you're still using the froyo radio that is known to cause terrible battery if paired with GB ROM
Yes I do have the GB radio. I believe it's version. 1.77.15* don't know the whole number.
Edit: I meant to say 1.77.30
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cm7dx2 and JD question

Hi All, Anyone use Juice defender with CM7dx2? I was curious when I did not see anyone listing it as one of their apps, and never saw the JD icon in screen caps. Before I install I wanted to ask if there were issues with it or if it simply is not worth it on this rom.
I stopped using it when I had some issues, but that was on stock blur, and was thinking of giving it another go.
I use to use jd. But it's more efficient to monitor data and screen on your own.
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I use it with RC1 and enjoy it very much. With a carefully managed power plan I can easily go 70+ hours on one charge under moderate use.
Never had any issues with the icon not showing up though. Are you running the free version or are you using +/ultimate?
I'm using jd ultimate and I can easily say it increased my battery life by 50% + with heavy usage. Even with the free version I could go 2 full days on one charge.
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Thanks all,
I think I'll give it another try. Glad to see there are no known compatibility issues, and it is easier than trying to maintain the settings myself.

No, you're doing it wrong.

Obvious total noob here. I've read all the thunderbolt reference material here and have followed a couple of tutorials on how to root my thunderbolt, but I keep finding broken mirrors. I just keep finding dead ends. Can someone point me to a current root method for this device. My goal is to try the leaked ICS rom. Thanks.
The closest I got was with revolution.
It did see my device and I was on the last step but it seemed like my rom was not compatible. There was a nice video and followed all the steps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703455
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Thank you for the link. I had to use that with revolution to achieve root. I am on Liqiuid now and my god its like a new super awesome phone.
Thanks again.:good:
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Thank you for the link. I had to use that with revolution to achieve root. I am on Liqiuid now and my god its like a new super awesome phone.
Thanks again.:good:
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Yeah. Rooting and having ICS is quite nice. Lol.
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Welcome to the rooted club! I just joined this week myself.
I hadn't seen the all in one tool but I think I'll snag it. Revolutionary worked great for me. The only thing I had to do was temp root since I was running the .19 ROM. It was smooth sailing after that.
I'm running SkyRaider 1.3 now. I'll probably flash to ICS next month after playing with SR for a bit.
What has SR been like for you?
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So far I'm digging it. It's been considerably faster and seemingly more reliable than stock. The past two years have been hateful and I wish I would have rooted a long time ago.
I'm still trying to figure out what things have changed (like what new options I have and where to find some things) but it's been a fairly easy ride. I did have to flash twice to get it to work but now it seems to be solid.
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I just started using the thunderbolt and is this battery performance is terrible. I'm not going to make a full day at work. If you want to keep 4G on do you have to use a extended battery.
I am liking liquid Ics should I try another rom or is this just how LTE is
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Alright..... at 7am I was fully charged and now is about 1pm and now I'm at 14% so on the charger I go. Perhaps a bad battery? I bought this phone used
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Sounds like a battery. I typically charge overnight and I'm good from about 7-4. Then I charge on the 30 min drive home and I'm good until the nightly charge. I've never seen exceptional battery life even with JuiceDefender. Right now it's bad but not quite like yours. I was on a third-party battery, though. I just swapped to the HTC battery and I'll see how it is. I think I'm going to turn JD off as well to see how SkyRaider managers on its own.
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Alright..... at 7am I was fully charged and now is about 1pm and now I'm at 14% so on the charger I go. Perhaps a bad battery? I bought this phone used
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This was typical for me.
I recommend turning off 4G. It's not really useful anyways unless you're trying to download something. Calibrate the battery also. Turn down your screen brightness and backlight timing. Also adjust how often accounts sync. Slow your CPU speeds.
You should be set after that.
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Yeah, I only use 4G if I'm doing file transfers or tethering. I need to look at underclocking. How often do you sync? I have a number of accounts that I check every 15 min. I could probably increase that to 30.
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Yeah, I only use 4G if I'm doing file transfers or tethering. I need to look at underclocking. How often do you sync? I have a number of accounts that I check every 15 min. I could probably increase that to 30.
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I increase mine to 4 hours.
Some of these are apps you can change within the apps settings, such as Facebook. I usually sign on before it syncs anyways.
Definitely checks your social apps and change the update intervals. It's basically the same thing.
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I unplugged at 7:30 and it's almost 4pm now. On 3G with some forum browsing and regular email checking I'm at 38%. So if you were dropping to 14% I'd definitely try a new battery. This is with JuiceDefender disabled as well.
7:25pm Update
I finally hit 14% 12 hours after disconnecting from the AC charger. I guess that's not too bad.
JaxDroidGuy said:
I unplugged at 7:30 and it's almost 4pm now. On 3G with some forum browsing and regular email checking I'm at 38%. So if you were dropping to 14% I'd definitely try a new battery. This is with JuiceDefender disabled as well.
7:25pm Update
I finally hit 14% 12 hours after disconnecting from the AC charger. I guess that's not too bad.
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I just bought a 1600 battery. We'll see how that goes.
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You need to realize the stock battery is only 1450. So very small for a 4g phone. I have found juice defender only made my wallet lighter. You might want to look in to an aosp ROM as it gives you better battery life. I personally disable auto sync and turn off GPS. Also while I am at work I disable data as SMS and MMS doesn't come over mobile data part. In the end some people carries more than one battery on them if they won't be in a place they can charge.
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Dark Jedi said:
You need to realize the stock battery is only 1450. So very small for a 4g phone. I have found juice defender only made my wallet lighter. You might want to look in to an aosp ROM as it gives you better battery life. I personally disable auto sync and turn off GPS. Also while I am at work I disable data as SMS and MMS doesn't come over mobile data part. In the end some people carries more than one battery on them if they won't be in a place they can charge.
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I'm on liquid ics so I'm good there. I will be swapping batteries once it comes in.
I used to swap batteries in my old blackberry days.
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[Q] Sudden change in Battery and Suspicious App?

Hello, all, since I've had my Note 2 I've been incredibly impressed with the battery live, much better than other droids I've owned. Within the last two weeks or so, however, I've seen a dramatic drop in battery life. Where I used to be able to last a day and a half without charging, The phone is now not capable of lasting through the day. There hasn't been any real change in my usage patterns, but I am constantly trying new apps, so I figured that one of the new ones must be the culprit. The stock battery stats indicated that Android System was consuming about 41 percent of the battery, which based on previous readings and having owned other droids seemed much too high. I downloaded Battery Stats Plus, which indicated hat the rogue app was wssyncmldm, consuming that same 41 percent. I wasn't familiar with this app, but google revealed that it manages ota updates? I tried rebooting the phone, and went back to Battery Stats Plus, which now indicated that same 41 percent, but named the app "Factory Test." I let the phone charge overnight to a full 100, then checking again today, I'm seeing similar numbers. Today Factory Test is listed at about 33 percent. Both apps are active in application manager, and reappear as soon as I force close them. Neither can be disabled on my stock, non-rooted note 2. I've not tried the factory reset just yet, was hoping to avoid that, but wondered if anyone had any suggestions.
Thanks so much, all!!!
Mika
mikaselm said:
Hello, all, since I've had my Note 2 I've been incredibly impressed with the battery live, much better than other droids I've owned. Within the last two weeks or so, however, I've seen a dramatic drop in battery life. Where I used to be able to last a day and a half without charging, The phone is now not capable of lasting through the day. There hasn't been any real change in my usage patterns, but I am constantly trying new apps, so I figured that one of the new ones must be the culprit. The stock battery stats indicated that Android System was consuming about 41 percent of the battery, which based on previous readings and having owned other droids seemed much too high. I downloaded Battery Stats Plus, which indicated hat the rogue app was wssyncmldm, consuming that same 41 percent. I wasn't familiar with this app, but google revealed that it manages ota updates? I tried rebooting the phone, and went back to Battery Stats Plus, which now indicated that same 41 percent, but named the app "Factory Test." I let the phone charge overnight to a full 100, then checking again today, I'm seeing similar numbers. Today Factory Test is listed at about 33 percent. Both apps are active in application manager, and reappear as soon as I force close them. Neither can be disabled on my stock, non-rooted note 2. I've not tried the factory reset just yet, was hoping to avoid that, but wondered if anyone had any suggestions.
Thanks so much, all!!!
Mika
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I'm not sure how much help I can be, but I'll do my best.
Let's start with the obvious things
1. Try uninstalling any apps that you recently installed
2. In application manager go under all and look for the "wssyncmldm" culprit. I don't have it in my application manager but I have one that is very close in name
3. Have you recently installed any OTAs?
4. Are you rooted by any chance?
5. When I updated to the 4.1.2 update, I had a similar battery issue. I just ended up backing up all my apps with "Helium" (No root required if you plug it into a pc with some directions) and just did a factory in settings. It fixed the battery issue for me, though I never looked into it to see if it was this same culprit.
I hope I can help in some way, I'll try my best though!
Welcome to 4.1.2.. Went from 30 hours to 15....tempted to install a backup of 4.1.1 to see if it comes back. Bad news is 4.2.2 seems worse on battery until you change kernel. I've done it in og DROID but scared to on my note.
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Welcome to 4.1.2.. Went from 30 hours to 15....tempted to install a backup of 4.1.1 to see if it comes back. Bad news is 4.2.2 seems worse on battery until you change kernel. I've done it in og DROID but scared to on my note.
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Scared to flash a new kernel or flash 4.2.2?
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Kernel... I've heard they are the real difference maker.
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Kernel... I've heard they are the real difference maker.
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Well every single one I have used, and I've flashed em all, are excellent. Don't be scared to flash em, the worst that can happen is you'll have a bootloop and you can restore your nandroid. They offer amazing features, some more so than others, and can make your phone run super fast with excellent battery life.
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Would you mind posting links on your top 2 or 3? I might give them a shot since I have a nandroid backup.
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Perseus, PB&J, and Sabre are probably the top three, not including stock.
Faux all day! Matrix(plasma) if on aosp
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I'm not running any rom right now... Just rooted 4.1.2. I've read faux was a good one though.
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OK after running the latest faux kernel and adding grennify I'm back to 4.1.1 battery life... Thanks for giving me the push to flash the kernel.
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Faux all day! Matrix(plasma) if on aosp
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PLASMA! Hell yeah! That's my go to kernel seeing as how I mainly run AOSP.
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Updated to KitKat, battery life sucks

Updated OTA to kitkat this morning on my Verizon Note 2. Already the battery life has taken a big hit, just as I feared. Google Play Services and Android system are now using major battery, whereas they werent before. I loved my Note 2, but will definitely be switching back to an iPhone 5s in a few weeks unless I can figure out how to fix the battery life with kitkat or downgrade back down to JB.
Same here. Also my 4g LTE speeds have tanked (5-10 times slower).
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Same here. Also my 4g LTE speeds have tanked (5-10 times slower).
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you and I are very much in the same boat. I had a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet that was simply AWESOME. Very fast and great battery life. Then came the Kitkat update...sucked all the life out of it. Things improved after I rooted and disabled tons of things, but it is still not as good as it once was...
Seems like these days every Google product just gets worse. I used to love Android Navigation, it stored your previously found destinations and you could easily navigate back and forth. Then they merged it with Maps. Now it sucks.
Try making sure Google now and that "ok Google" crap is off. That was killing me on KK. ALSO, make sure under your wifi settings Google isn't set to search for wifi even with wifi turned off.
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Besides disabling, which restarts on reboot...try the turn off feature whatever apps allow it.
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I thought I had fixed the problem, but alas after some use I found the battery life is still terrible in many cases.
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I thought I had fixed the problem, but alas after some use I found the battery life is still terrible in many cases.
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I recommend the app greenify. You can hibernate apps. I have been using it for years and have extended my battery life tremendously.

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