Can't believe I'm asking...HD2 Vs. Vibrant? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
I've been a ...somewhat proud owner of a Samsung Vibrant since I broke my N1 about a year ago. (still miss it, ) But I think I've grown tired of it. I've flashed basically every ROM there is for it, I've broke a couple (thanks asurion,) and my general excitement for it has reached critical mass, I think.
I have a mate who would be more than willing to trade his HD2 (with a sd card kit) to me for it. I'd hate to bring a trivial life decision here, but I can't really decide off of reviews alone. Anyone have experience with both? Hopefully since Android has become stable on it. (I'd be dualbooting wm7 and android on the HD2.)
Thanks for any input.

Just be careful. I've seen more than my fair share of HD2's with heavy defective components. The digitizers and nand chips in general are what can be hit and miss. I'd stay with the Vibrant after owning both but that's just me.

connexion2005 said:
Just be careful. I've seen more than my fair share of HD2's with heavy defective components. The digitizers and nand chips in general are what can be hit and miss. I'd stay with the Vibrant after owning both but that's just me.
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+++++++1 my daughter went through two of them, biggest piece of crap I ever saw.

I'd pick the Vibrant but I may be biased. I've seen my share of HD2s and while great, they always seem to be eclipsed by a Vibrant in one way or another. It's a great phone though.

4co-workers of mine have HD2's onw guy went through 3, covered by warranty but still.... another guys phone locked up at T-mobile when he was in the process of purchasing it. he got a different one anyway and two days later it went unresponsive. the other guy never had any problems but his IS running android though. other guy, i dont know

A couple of friends own the HD2 phone and both of them don't like them. I'd go with the Vibrant anytime.

Glad to see others have experienced the same issues. I've never seen a phone be more prone to hardware defects than the HD2. HTC has a great reputation for producing great quality phones with superior build quality. Although from what I've seen, their phones are over engineered with cheaper connector and fastener technologies and the SGS line of phones is very easy to work on with pop connectors and minimal design. This design can be targeted as cheap but in reality, when working on one, it's more durable to not have to use plastic tweezers and apply light pressures to ribbon cable assemblies that loop around corners and what not. Just offering another view as a technician that sees over 130 phones a month with issues.

When I went to tmobile to buy a new phone I asked the store rep that exact question. Without hesitation he told me I would regret buying the HD2.
I bought the vibrant and never looked back.
Vibrant
Rom: Project-V
Kernel: Trying Immortality V2
Love it.

There is so much we can do on the vibrant and I think they have the best graphics, clearest screens, good speed, and I have always bought nothin but samsung phones cuz they r awesome. Lol
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Wow... you guys are really hating on the hd2... The screen is nowhere near the vibrant but the phone is just alive. It is easily the most elegant phone to be release to this day and has never failed to astonish me with what the damn thing can do. Think about it... it began with POS windows software. Then came sd android builds, and eventually nand roms. Now it has flawless builds with the most vibrant(yeah I said it) community. Running wp7 mango, meego, and ubuntu... The thing really is an the best example of what capable hardware can do with xda. As much as I like my vibrants more advance hardware, the hd2 is more stable and the development more than makes up for it.
edit: having said all this the thing can crack easily with a fall...

i will try to Put here some positive and negative for both phones to make your decision easier:
Galaxy S + Variants:
Super Amoled Screen
Better GPU than iphone4, PowerVR SGX540 "Iphone has PowerVR SGX535"
Same 1GHZ
Better Battery 1500 mAh
Htc HD2:
Larger screen 4.3" but inferior lcd type one.
1st generation adreno 200 that by many ways inferior to PowerVR SGX540
Crappy battery Li-Ion 1230 mAh.
Larger community and support

Got a free hd2 for my daughter and flashed a nand rom the next day. She likes her hd2, but after she used my vibrant for a day ( we switched sims) i had a hard time getting my vib back. That being said a free hd2 is still not quite a purchased vib.
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Hi
I had a Hd2 it is amazing phone and u can flash any android version on it they are all available roms, it is even easier than vibrant! i replaced it with vibrant because i wanted a pure android phone also because i was a flash freek some times i was flashing 2 Roms in one day and that because of the large number of available roms in the Hd2 forums, what i miss now is the HTC since it is much better than Samsung TW, actually Samsung TW is s**t, but what i love in vibrant it is light weight ,the size is perfect and the amoled screen, for me these are the only better things in vibrant.
I would like to add something, the only issue i faced on Hd2 is the voice apps like viper was causing issues on the phone and no one was able to solve it, i think it is kernel issue! I tried all the available builds and i had the same issue! Maybe it was only my phone! I don't know
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stick with the vibrant bro, why change, the hd2 is super old.. and the screen sucks

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[Q] Is the Samsung Vibrant worth buying?

Hello guys,
I am comparing the Vibrant, G2, MT4G and N1, even considering the HD2.
Is there still a good reason to consider the Vibrant? Seeing as how Samsung is really dropping the ball / support. Any other advice / support is appreciated.
Note: This will be my first Android phone, I will be coming from an iPhone 3GS.
I'd get Nexus S or even better, wait for Vibrant 4g.
Vibrant running a rom is a great phone. Stock not so much. I would probably just wait for the new 4g galaxy in a month or two and grab that.
Stock, the phone isn't very good. It's slow. It's laggy. The battery life is pretty poor. I'd rate a stock Vibrant (Eclair) 6 out of 10.
Rooted and flashed with a good ROM, it's quite good. I'd say it's 8 out of 10. There are a number of flaws... such as the GPS being wonky, the phone not having any notification LEDs and the haptic feedback being very weak compared to comparable devices.
Regardless of software issues, the hardware is good, even if the build quality is low. The S-AMOLED display is gorgeous (if a bit oversaturated). The audio quality (for media playback, not call quality) is the best I've heard on a phone.
I wouldn't buy it on contract, though. I bought my Vibrant second-hand for about $300, and I consider it a great deal, even now after all the Samsung software shenanigans.
It depends on what you are wanting (FFC, other features...)... where you live (4g?)... and how the phone feels.... do you want the stock feel (N1) or the features touch wiz brings.
Personally, the Vibrant is perfect for ME. Obviously there is going to be someone who prefers another phone on your list (good group).. I have the Nexus also.
Say what you will, but TouchWiz has a LOT of features i would miss.
I will say this, for hardware, not bricking, the BEST screen, and great developers the Vibrant wins.
The Vibrant 4G seems to be launching in Feb, but will probably be out of my price range...
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It depends on what you are wanting (FFC, other features...)... where you live (4g?)... and how the phone feels.... do you want the stock feel (N1) or the features touch wiz brings.
Personally, the Vibrant is perfect for ME. Obviously there is going to be someone who prefers another phone on your list (good group).. I have the Nexus also.
Say what you will, but TouchWiz has a LOT of features i would miss.
I will say this, for hardware, not bricking, the BEST screen, and great developers the Vibrant wins.
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I live in LA, so 4G should be available...
I'm still new to Android... TouchWiz, a quick google shows it is the Samsung's splash screen / desktop. And a "rom" seems to be a custom firmware, is this correct?
Androids seem so much more complicated than an iPhone.
Anyone know the spects on the vibrant 4g?
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Android is open source. Because of this, manufacturers can take it and "make it their own"
Touchwiz is amazing and absolutely my preferred "skin" *though I prefer stock android, ala Nexus one*
Look in my signature, read those stickies... should answer a lot of questions AND show what the Vibrant can do.
Regardless what phone you choose, I bet you end up (1) rooting it and (2) flashing a custom rom.
The Vibrant is incredibly hard to brick... will benefit from the Nexus S and Vibrant 4G (source code released) and has great developers.. plus it is just sexy. Your call.
Unless you absolutely need fast updates (Nexus S), and need a phone now, yeah, get the vibrant. Great hardware, very slick, great devs, but maybe a few trolls in the community. Great phone none the less.
Dont let the whine threads fool you this phone is fantastic.
You need to ask yourself a few questions when looking at what phone you want.
How important is a forward facing camera?
What screen size would you prefer?
How does the phone feel to you?
Whats the storage like?
The vibrant has a great cpu and gpu. a beautiful screen and 16 gig internal storage with an sdcard slot that supports a 32gb micro sd card.
Its mad light which can throw you off but you get use to it. You can probably get a great deal if 4g isnt all that important. I got mine for about 315 here in los angeles.
Ive seen them for a lot lower on cl also.
The phone might be decent but the company behind it ruins it.
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Yes, it just depends on how much you are paying for it.
With the Vibrant 4G ready to drop next month, I wouldn't pay more than $200-300 for a plain Vibrant.
I'm actually waiting till then to buy one for my wife.
Short answer: no.
Long answer: there are way better phones than the vibrant coming out soon. Samsung also blows, and for those of you telling him yes... what happened to #neveragain?
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remarquian said:
Yes, it just depends on how much you are paying for it.
With the Vibrant 4G ready to drop next month, I wouldn't pay more than $200-300 for a plain Vibrant.
I'm actually waiting till then to buy one for my wife.
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This is what I might do, since I'm willing to spend $200 for the Vibrant... Or maybe I'll go for the G2 at $350ish.
I like the G2 since it's "future proof" with 4G and has a qwerty keyboard. It also has much better name to back it and has a stronger community behind it.
I would wait. I love my Vibrant, but the GPS is still spotty and there's no guarantee you'll get one that works. Dual core phones (as well as the Vibrant 4G) are right around the corner and right now the Nexus S is a better choice. I'm guessing the Vibrant 4G will be $200 on contract when it comes out.
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No.They care so little for us(both tmo and samsung) that anything else would be an improvement.ANYTHING.
DisturbedAle said:
Hello guys,
I am comparing the Vibrant, G2, MT4G and N1, even considering the HD2.
Is there still a good reason to consider the Vibrant? Seeing as how Samsung is really dropping the ball / support. Any other advice / support is appreciated.
Note: This will be my first Android phone, I will be coming from an iPhone 3GS.
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Buying one of the phones you listed above right now would be foolish. I only say that because we are litterly on the cusp of new Dual core phones to hit the market soon.
As a Vibrant owner, I would say stay away, even from the Vibrant 4G. If you must upgrade now, I would get the Nexus S, even though it doesn't have hspa+ (4G).
It just depends, if your a hacker, get an hd2, as you can put many roms on it, Gingerbread, Froyo, Windows phone 7, but it's not as sexy as the Vibrant's display, and maybe not as fast, I think everything else is pretty ugly lol. I would get a Vibrant 4g though, if you really want a Galaxy S model.
I'm trading my Vibrant for a hd2, and $200, that's probably the only reason I'm bragging about it.
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It just depends, if your a hacker, get an hd2, as you can put many roms on it, Gingerbread, Froyo, Windows phone 7, but it's not as sexy as the Vibrant's display, and maybe not as fast, I think everything else is pretty ugly lol. I would get a Vibrant 4g though, if you really want a Galaxy S model.
I'm trading my Vibrant for a hd2, and $200, that's probably the only reason I'm bragging about it.
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last I heard the hd2 was barely able to get past the android boot, since when has android been successfuly working on the hd2?
btw hd2 comes with windows mobile 6.5, not 7.
its been able to boot it for a while now. they finally got nand though.

How good is the Atrix? Pros and Cons to Atrix.

so my contract will be up in May 4th.
after my horrid experience with the Backflip, im kind of on the iffy side about the atrix since its running motoblur.
the atrix seems like a good candidate. espcialy because of the lapdock. as im going to college and wanted a android tablet. but the atrix seems way better ATM and i can get it for around 450 at radio shack.
but first of all. i would want some general feed back from owners as you all.
pros and cons basically.
Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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backflip, was a good attempt at a design of a phone unique, but with that they equipped it just sucked. i moved on to a HTC HD2 which is what i have right now. but i want my 3G back and 4G as my area will be available for 4G.
thanks for the tip on the launchers.
This phone is very well built especially in an otterbox case. It just feels like a sturdy phone. The camera is really good. I just upgraded from an Xperia X10 with loads of tweaks. I thought that was running really fast, and this manages to run even faster at stock. You can literally click almost anything and it will open immediately. Cons: I really like motoblur actually, but I wish there were more settings for syncing.
i keep on viewing more videos on youtube regarding the phone. called att today in the morning. i want it. but they are slapping a 45 tethering fee to my plan, becuase of the lapdock. i dont want to go over 200 bucks a month as its what we are paying right now right around 170ish 80ish.
but i want it.
but hen again, it makes me think about the whole motoblur thing. on the backflip, it was laggy and useless. i ended up putting a deblured rom on it.
by any chance does anybody know if you need to have a tethering plan?
You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
ill look that up. as for the screen. PenTile? imma hit google up. lol. but ill take a good look and compare to my HD2. screen doesnt really bug me. unless its low quality. then yes we have an issue. but other than that. were fine. thanks for the tip.
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You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
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I completely disagree. The screen looks very good, albet a little pixilated when displaying solid colors. My friend's droid x's screen looks washed out and low quality in comparison.
Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
Cons
Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
Cons
Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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like i said screen isnt really a big issue. as long it looks okay and a bit on the HD side im good.
ive been reading review alot lately (dont wanna **** up liek i did with the backflip) i hear battery is a drag. that it dies quickly because of the dual core processor. the 4G has to come eventually as its has 4G slapped on to its name
AT&T is not really a big issue. ha i got service where i live. not one single dropped call.
now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
How are you getting it for 450 from radio shack? If you don't mind me asking.
I returned mine for the zoom and will prolly grab it again for that price.
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i visted my local radio shack about 3 days ago.
Phone 150
lapdock 329.99
so correction about 479.99
Atrix & lapdock deal @ radioshack
Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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yeah. 600 for the phone is whack! i got a HD2 currently got it off cragislist for 150 guy needed the money.
best buy has the phone for 99.99 and the dock for 399.99. a total of about 500+
radio shack seems the best option. around 480 not bad 20 bucks is 20 bucks i can buy a case or something.
You guys are lucky you don't live in Australia, to buy any decent phone will set you back 800ish, Atrix 4G online in an Australian store (MobiCity.com.au) will set you back $1000 its stupid.
As for the question, I like my Atrix, its heaps better than my HTC 7 Trophy and faster than my iPhone 4 in some cases. The locked bootloader basically stops you flashing custom ROMs onto the phone entirely, only fake ROMs that are essentially very well built themes. Considering this is my first android though, I have yet to care about custom ROMs. The screen is good unless you're viewing solid colors which is when it goes pixelated and motoblur did annoy me as soon as I saw it, which is the reason I shoved GingerBlur on it as soon as I could.
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sal2708 said:
now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
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1) In simplified terms, a Bootloader is low-level piece of software that loads the main OS (Android in this case). It's roughly equivalent of the PC BIOS.
Being locked means that its going to be very difficult to replace it.
You'd want to replace it in order to replace the Android OS with a newer version. The Manufactures and carriers are terribly slow to release new versions. The version of android on the atrix is version out of date (2.2) and almost a year old. It also means you can easily remove the extra 'value' crap motorola and the carriers like to add (like motoblur).
2) The chip runs at 1Ghz, but it's two cores on the chip which means it can 'theoretically' do twice as much per hertz. In practise, Android isn't that dual-core aware. It's likely Ice-Cream will bring more optimizations for dual-cores. Which we think is due late this year.
But Motorola would rather sell you a new phone than update it, hence why a locked bootloader is a pain. Consumers provide far better support than the manufactures or carriers
I see. I wonder if they will skip 2.3 and just go ahead to ice cream since ice cream is for dual core phones.
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[Q] Still pleased with your purchase?

Hi folks,
How are you getting on with your S2, still happy, any buyers remorse?
Is the camera pink spot still an issue?
I'm contemplating buying the S2 or possibly the HTC Sensation, but I'm leaning slightly more towards the Samsung at the moment. I've had a HTC Desire which was great but I've just returned my 3rd HTC Incredible S due to poor phone signal issues. I do very much like the Sense interface and that's making my decision a little difficult.
Love my sgs 2. So yea still very pleased and prob will for a long time.
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Best phone I have ever had to be honest. Came over from a BlackBerry 2 months ago, best decision ever...
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love my device, hate the battery life and heat problems. Dont know yet if it was a good idea to leave iPhone
Battery life compared to the iPhone? How long does your battery last now?
With my previous Android phones I'd get a days usage, I had JuiceDefender installed though.
No remorse at all. Had mine over a week now. Don't notice this much talked about pink spot? Battery life is about the same as my previous 5 android devices! Samsung do an official larger battery which is nice if you need it. Can't wait for Ice Cream Sandwich with touchwiz!
Always loved htc sense but this touchwiz lark is pretty good. Just wish it had 2 things, alphabetical app draw and setting for default homescreen.
Ephumuris
tsouts said:
love my device, hate the battery life and heat problems. Dont know yet if it was a good idea to leave iPhone
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LOL you clearly haven't read up properly on this forum, battery life is brilliant if you know what to do.
Best phone ever, worth the money for sure
Yup, it's been several months and I love this phone! (Unlike many other phones I've owned in the past) Go ahead and buy it - we're sure you won't have any regrets.
you can have my one....selling it to get the iphone 4s best damn phone ever man..galaxy s2 horrible yuk
I suggest you absolutely do not get a Sensation. Mine went back to the repair centre 3 times with dust under the screen. The build feels hefty but the actual hardware - from the screen to the camera to the cellular transmitter to the loudspeaker - is inferior. The only thing with the S2 is that it doesn't feel as substantial in the hand; though the S2 form factor certainly makes it easier to text on in my opinion. I have also ordered an iPhone 4S. Three in fact. Have you SEEN how much these things go for on eBay when they sell out?
Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!...oh god give it to me> oh yes!!!!
leoni1980 said:
I suggest you absolutely do not get a Sensation. Mine went back to the repair centre 3 times with dust under the screen. The build feels hefty but the actual hardware - from the screen to the camera to the cellular transmitter to the loudspeaker - is inferior. The only thing with the S2 is that it doesn't feel as substantial in the hand; though the S2 form factor certainly makes it easier to text on in my opinion. I have also ordered an iPhone 4S. Three in fact. Have you SEEN how much these things go for on eBay when they sell out?
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It's a shame that HTC seem to be losing their way a little as far as quality is concerned, the Antenna issue that I had on my Incredible S appears to affect the Sensation too.
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It's a shame that HTC seem to be losing their way a little as far as quality is concerned, the Antenna issue that I had on my Incredible S appears to affect the Sensation too.
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They don't seem to have much concern for product longevity and they take too many design punts which evidently have potentially catastrophic repercussions. They also release FAR too many devices per year. It completely cheapens the brand. No one makes the consumer feel more confident in their purchase than Apple. You KNOW you will get great product support and you KNOW your phone wont be out of date and forgotten about in six months. At least Samsung tend to stick to a flagship phone for about a year. I just don't know why HTC can't make a decent phone with great tech and stick with it. It's like they're constantly on the run rather than constantly trying to improve.
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love my device, hate the battery life and heat problem
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Same here...battery life doesn't bother me so much because there's usually a charging option close by, but it hits 50 - 55 degrees when GPS and car charging....not cool (if you'll excuse the pun)
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if mine broke and i could choose any phone out there to replace it i would go for the sgs2 all over again and thats 4-5 months of ownership
battery life is excellent for a smartphone with these features , hardware is pretty future proofed for a while (1gb ram / high end cpu/gpu / great screen / etc etc) software is stable / dev support is excellent / apps and game support is pretty decent /
yep defo love my sgs2
I love my galaxy s2 more now than I did when I first got it, recent updates mean the android os bug has gone and the yellow tint has disappeared. I'm getting just as much bettery life as I did with my iphone 4.
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The only thing that would make me change this device for an iPhone would be a free iphone + free money + a free car.
leoni1980 said:
I suggest you absolutely do not get a Sensation. Mine went back to the repair centre 3 times with dust under the screen. The build feels hefty but the actual hardware - from the screen to the camera to the cellular transmitter to the loudspeaker - is inferior. The only thing with the S2 is that it doesn't feel as substantial in the hand; though the S2 form factor certainly makes it easier to text on in my opinion. I have also ordered an iPhone 4S. Three in fact. Have you SEEN how much these things go for on eBay when they sell out?
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Sorry I disagree with the sensation being inferior, I sold my SG2, it was ok, quick, but I didn't like the screen, I prefer the qhd on the sensation and its just as fast, you won't notice much difference when using them any way and it does feel much better in the hand. But there has been issues with dust under the screen on a lot of the devices.
In the end its down to personal choice
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Best device I've ever had period
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They don't seem to have much concern for product longevity and they take too many design punts which evidently have potentially catastrophic repercussions. They also release FAR too many devices per year. It completely cheapens the brand. No one makes the consumer feel more confident in their purchase than Apple. You KNOW you will get great product support and you KNOW your phone wont be out of date and forgotten about in six months. At least Samsung tend to stick to a flagship phone for about a year. I just don't know why HTC can't make a decent phone with great tech and stick with it. It's like they're constantly on the run rather than constantly trying to improve.
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Can't agree there, i had an EVO 4G before, and i had to leave it just to get a dual-core phone (and the super amoled+ is certainly a +) so here i am, but the quality of the evo was great, first 4G, among the first 4.3 inch, kickstand, amazing gps, only drawback as with most androids was the battery and solved with a 2000 mah battery, i sold it after more than a year with no problems at all.

[Q] Opinions from Captivate to SGS2 users?

I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
BlakDye said:
I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I switched from the Infuse.
1) GPS - the Infuse was a significant improvement over the Cappy, and so far, the GS2 seems to be a massive improvement over the Infuse
2) FFC - just like the Infuse, we have it. That's about all I can say
3) Lack of OS updates - get used to this on AT&T - but just like the Cappy (and unlike the Infuse), the deltas from the international variant are small enough that this doesn't really matter.
Reasons I stuck with Samsung, including paying full outright purchase price:
1) Samsung's clear developer support policies - device donations to Cyanogenmod, they even donated an Infuse to supercurio for Voodoo work, source code dropping BEFORE device release
2) Samsung ease of development - Samsungs are really damn hard to brick and easy to flash
3) sAMOLED+
I too had a Captivate. Coming from a Tilt/E71/N97 Mini, it was amazing. It had gotten sluggish, but I wasn't planning on re-setting it back to stock or flashing another rom on it until my year was up (I was rooted). When I first got it I really thought it would do me for a couple of years. The more I read about the SGS2 though, the better it sounded. So I caved.
I bought one the day they were released and haven't regretted it at all. It makes the Captivate seem like it's slogging through molasses in January. Everything is instantaneous, the GPS gets a lock inside my house within a matter of seconds, the battery life is greatly improved, etc. Oh, as a plus, it also seems to pick up signal where no other phone has before - actually, that's a HUGE plus for me.
If you know of anyone with an SGS2, it might pay for you to at least mess with it a bit so you can see for yourself "in the real world".
I'm now ready to use the Captivate to flash roms and experiment (yay), then when my 30 days is up, I'll root the SGS2 and see from there.
I recommend the SGS2, but as usual, ymmv.
as Entropy said (which is pretty much hitting the "nail on the head"), samsung devices are hard to brick, easy to modify and they've supported independent developers, which is cool in my book.
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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That is one thing that kills me though, the price. It might be worth it to me though. I actually miss using GPS with me and my brother battling on Foursquare, and now that my family uses their front facing camera on their iphone 4's to talk I can actually put it to a lot of use. ( I feel kinda left out with the cappy haha.)
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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HATERS GONNA HATE...give me a break the captivate ain't even on the same playing field as this phone PERIOD. Loved my Captivate but this statement is plain nuts.
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I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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Well, I got the Captivate as a free upgrade, coming from HTC Aria (which was also free), so my upgrades are gradual in terms of phone quality. When I said barely, that's what I meant - paying actual money for SGS2
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What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I use a DSLR for photography, and megapixels are not a selling point for me.
Speed out of the box is great, that's true, but again, I was coming from a speedy smooth running custom kernel/rom on the Captivate...
I also came from Cappy and tried almost every iteration of roms then stuck with CM7. I had two cappys (3 if you include my wife's) a d I sold MY second cappy for $160, went down to a Walmart store and got the SGS2 for $148.88 and something like $164 after tax. So basically it was free for me and I still have my cappy as a backup even though I haven't needed it. This seems a lot more stable and harder to even softbrick than the cappy. So YES it is worth every penny.
I Love my cappy but it really doesn't compare to the SGS2. Besides all the difference you already mentioned this thing even at stock performs VERY WELL. This phone is guaranteed the next generation of OS (ICE CREAM SANDWICH). It has the same dev support as the captivate. It is a very fast and I THINK still the fastest phone in the market. You CANNOT go wrong with it. I could reiterate the OTHER pluses but they have been covered above. Just pull the trigger and you wont look back.
Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
Well I finally gave in and bought one. So far I love it!
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I came from the Captivate. Totally worth the upgrade. GPS works, The screen is awesome. So much awesome in this phone. You can get it at WalMart for $160 on 2-year contract.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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Ha! I just updated from a Captivate because I *ran over* it the other night. Luckily, it wasn't in my pocket at the time. The Gorilla Glass is impressive. The display panel behind the glass faceplate is shattered, 100s of cracks. The faceplate itself is completely undamaged. The phone still worked, though no display. Luckily I'd left it in USB Debug so I could get all my crap off it still.
The S2 is a noticeable improvement over the Cappy. Speedier, with much less lag, a brilliant display (though I think my Cappy display had faded and gotten some burn in so the comparison my not be all that fair).
As with so many other owners, I was exasperated by the S1's GPS. I'd gotten it to work OK after lots of fiddling (changing to a larger battery and the non-conductive plastic back plate that came with it seemed to make a significant difference) but it was still marginal at best.
The Bluetooth at last can finally initiate a hands-free voice-activated call, though it's annoying it can't do that with the screen off (wondering if I can fix that with Tasker), and I'm thinking of swapping in the stock voice APK since the Samsung Vlingo thing is a bit slow... Voice response via BT has always been an Android disappointment, it's something that for all their faults, Blackberry has honed to a fine art.

[Q] Would you buy the Atrix 4G today?

Hi there. I know there are some threads about this but they are seriously outdated.
I have an Atrix that I bought in the summer off of eBay and I love it. I'm running CM7 Ba2tF and everything works great (I'm getting 3 days of battery with moderate use). Thing is: my girlfriend loves it too, she has an old Nokia and has been thinking about upgrading for a while, so I was thinking about getting her an Atrix for Christmas.
There are some pretty affordable Atrixes on eBay now, but my question is: is it worth it to buy one now?
My girlfriend doesn't need the latest hardware, but it would be nice to have a decent phone (which the Atrix certainly is). She also doesn't need the latest software, but the Atrix seems more than capable to run ICS (either officially or not).
So do you think there are other phones for about the same price on eBay (200-250 €/270-340$) that would be a better deal than the Atrix?
Edit: I forgot to mention that we live in Portugal, and don't have a lot of money, that's the reason for wanting to buy an affordable (possibly used) phone on eBay. It obviously can't have a contract and must be SIM unlocked/easily unlockable.
Sorry if this is the wrong forum to ask. And I apologize for my poor english.
I like it a lot, I think its great. Especially now that Lapdocks are cheap.
Honestly, I'd probably be looking at getting the next great thing if I were buying now. I love my Atrix, but it's already old news imo. There's bigger and badder coming out.
ATRIX is one great phone that brought Motorola from its grave however there are better phones out there now and if u wanna wait, there will be even more.
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Honestly, I'd probably be looking at getting the next great thing if I were buying now. I love my Atrix, but it's already old news imo. There's bigger and badder coming out.
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I agree, but the reason i asked this is because we don't have a lot of money, and we don't live in the USA, so we can't buy new phones for a couple hundred bucks (I should have probably mentioned that). We are looking for an affordable phone, that's also a bit future proof, even if it is not the most recent device out there.
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I agree, but the reason i asked this is because we don't have a lot of money, and we don't live in the USA, so we can't buy new phones for a couple hundred bucks (I should have probably mentioned that). We are looking for an affordable phone, that's also a bit future proof, even if it is not the most recent device out there.
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If I were strapped for cash I would get one if I could get a good deal. It's a great phone. I'm just a technoholic, so I'm looking for my next one right now. With 5 phones on our plan, I get 5 times the chance for a nice upgrade!
Yeah you can be waiting for years for the next best thing to come out and never get one because there is another one on its way about to come out also...
I think atrix is a great phone, I had it since the week they came out and still love it. I say get it, it's an awsome phone for the price and the specs that it has.
Although I'm running a different rom on it, I think the stock version runs great too for anyone getting into androids or smartphones.
I came here looking for a thread just like this. Funny how it works out. Thanks
ATT is running a deal to get an Atrix 4g for a penny with contract extension. Being cash strapped and wanting an android device that doesn't suck to replace my old Curve just became an option.
Also consider replacement costs if you don't have insurance. Depending on where you live I am guessing this could be more or less expensive. If you don't have phone insurance through a carrier, you can always ask about adding the phone to your home or renters insurance.
I'd say get it!
The Atrix 4G is anything but an old and budget smartphone.
It still has great specs and even better than some of the latest and greatest.
Just for fun let's compare it to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Atrix has many features the Nexus don't have, like huge battery, hdmi out, webtop, lots of accesories to choose from, a screen that will outlast that on the Nexus due to image burn-in problem on AMOLEDs, ICS capable, memory expansion through micro-sd, fingerprint scanner that really works great, and best of all, CHEAPER!
P.S.- I'm not saying that SGN is not a great phone, but on feature/cost ratio the Atrix blows it out of the water.
I had thought of that, but what about the galaxy s (not the s2)? It is slightly cheaper on ebay, probably because more were sold, and it doesn't have the flash or hdmi out or dual core processor, but it's still a pretty capable phone.
I know there are more than a few posts comparing these two devices out there, and I've seen some of those, but TODAY, would any of you opt for the galaxy S, that is about 40€ cheaper, instead of the Atrix? I am just looking for personal opinions.
Keep in mind that I own an Atrix, and I did a lot of research before buying it, including comparing it with the galaxy S. The point is, the galaxy S was a lot more expensive when i bought my Atrix, and I don't know if i would still buy it, if the prices were as they are today (although I probably would and will again ).
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I had thought of that, but what about the galaxy s (not the s2)? It is slightly cheaper on ebay, probably because more were sold, and it doesn't have the flash or hdmi out or dual core processor, but it's still a pretty capable phone.
I know there are more than a few posts comparing these two devices out there, and I've seen some of those, but TODAY, would any of you opt for the galaxy S, that is about 40€ cheaper, instead of the Atrix? I am just looking for personal opinions.
Keep in mind that I own an Atrix, and I did a lot of research before buying it, including comparing it with the galaxy S. The point is, the galaxy S was a lot more expensive when i bought my Atrix, and I don't know if i would still buy it, if the prices were as they are today (although I probably would and will again ).
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Well the problem I see by purchasing any type of used AMOLED based smartphones is that the buyer runs the risk of getting a device with a burned-in screen.
For those not familiar with this "burn-in" term here's a brief explanation:
AMOLED based screens (even new ones like Super AMOLED +) use organic leds that produce it's own light, so there is no need of an electroluminicent backlight like that on normal LCDs, colors are brilliant (oversaturated to some) but the downside to this new technology is that unfortunately blue leds tend to degrade faster than the other colors, so after just a few months of use (according to reports all around xda and other sites) the user start to see ghosting or burn-in effects on screen, specially visible on whites.
That's one of the primary reasons why we got a change of color scheme starting on Android 2.2 Froyo like dark top task bars where static icons and information tend to burn-in quicker.
So, in conclussion, I would avoid purchasing any AMOLED based smartphone without looking at it first IN PERSON!.
How to check?
Simply hold the device and pump the brightness all the way to the max settings and then have a blank WHITE screen (i.e. maximized or zoomed in blank white web page) and look for ghost images specially where the top bar sits, or even squared and ghostly icons where the program icons used to sit).
There are lots of videos and pictures all over to see what to look for.
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Rayan
Definitely get an atrix over galaxy S. Much more powerful phone. The price on galaxy S is artificially high due to demand for replacements from a lot of people that bought them. See that a lot on the used market with the mass consumer market phones just like old iphones.
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Forget the old Galaxy...I had one and it was crap. Slow, not enough memory, laggy, Froyo.
I read all the android news every day looking for my next phone. So far the only one that is tempting me is the Motorola Dinara, or XT928 coming to AT&T soon. It is a 4.5 inch screen and true HD 1280 x 960. The ones being delivered to AT&T will have removeable batteries, 1.2 GH dual core, and I like the design. Price will be a factor so I won't be able to actually purchase it till 6 months down the road. Whatever the case the longer you wait the more powerful phone you will get, its just the was it goes.
I think the ATRIX 2 with a fingerprint scanner would be a fantastic device for the $100 asking price. Recently played with one, I liked it.
I was in the same position of yours couple of weeks ago. My budget was around $300-350. I couldn't find any phone better than Atrix 4G on this budget! Man its one of the greatest phone still now in the market & it has the lower price of them all. Its the great phone with a great price! If I had money I'd buy another atrix!
16 GB internal, 1910mAh battery, 1Ghz processor. How many phones out there beats that?
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Atrix has the best price/performance ratio today.
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Atrix has the best price/performance ratio today.
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Yes, I would but the Atrix again today. I am not the "chase the hottest thing today" kind of guy.
Atrix has very good specs in dual core CPU and 1 gig of ram. Remember that most phones are still single core.
I will listen to upgrade arguments when there will be a single app that requires more raw hardware power than what Atrix provides.
I would happily purchase the Atrix again today, it's the best phone I've ever had. Ill be waiting for a good quad core phone before I replace mine.
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