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If the latest rumors are true and we won't be seeing a TBolt for a while .... what else are you guys looking forward to?
I like what we have had in the rootability of the HTC line up, hoping to stay w/them, but just curious to what else you guys/gals have been looking at in addition to this?
I think this was the only phone i was really looking forward too... but now I may have to reconsider after todays news..
The "stealth" looks ok but I dont want another phone with hard keys ( coming from X)
Then there is the Bionic... lol yeah right unless moto goes the route of the Xoom or there is a breakthough in bypassing by then.
The top LG phone is going GSM at first I hear.. will be a while till we see a version.
Same with the Galaxy 2, Gonna be gsm at first...
This really sucks.
I'm not leaving VZW and nothing else that we know is coming appeals to me like the TBolt. Hopefully they will get their crap together sooner rather than later. Sometimes being first (lte phone) is frustrating and disorganized.
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I'm going to hold out for the tbolt. I hate how blur is entirely so no bionic for me.
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I was really hoping the Thunderbolt would be released this month. I guess ill be holding off for the Bionic now to see how they compare...i really like the webtop app and hope that Motorolas statement about it being included in all high end smartphones includes the bionic.
Does anyone know how the modified blur on the bionic compares to the standard blur?
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I was really hoping the Thunderbolt would be released this month. I guess ill be holding off for the Bionic now to see how they compare...i really like the webtop app and hope that Motorolas statement about it being included in all high end smartphones includes the bionic.
Does anyone know how the modified blur on the bionic compares to the standard blur?
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Every review I've read says that the webtop is slow and frustrating with the Atrix. The Bionic is suppose to have half the ram, doubt it will be included at all or we would have heard about it.
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I almost made a thread like this. I have been considering exploring other options since the Thunderbolt release didn't go as expected. The Thunderbolt seems like an almost perfect device, but may have some flaws or setbacks. Possible issues with battery, 4G, Skype, and no Netflix. Granted, I don't believe they ever said it would have Netflix, but it would have been nice. And an HDMI port! I still can't get over that one. Why would you not put one on there, every other powerhouse phone has one.
Some other similar phones coming to Verizon to consider would be the Droid Bionic, LG Revolution, and the Samsung 4G phone.
Here is a video comparing the 4 phones. I think the guy may have some of his specs mixed up, but it is a good side by side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNh3-MsgtMQ
But the thing is just the wait for all these other phones is gonna be that much longer. I doubt another one will be out the gate before TB because it's already been advertised as our first. Don't get me wrong, I'll love HTC and Android forever, but the wait is just making me want to jump ship to the Palm Pre 2. Laugh all you want, but it's pretty much the next option for me from what's currently available.
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I'm going to hold out for the tbolt. I hate how blur is entirely so no bionic for me.
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Is MotoBlur the Moto desktop/launcher on phones? My BF has the DroidPro and when I mess around w/his phone I don't notice anything really different about how it operates - but I think I remember reading someplace that the Pro doesn't have Blur.
If it is a desktop/launcher, can't folks just replace it w/LPro or ADW or something?
I must be way off on what Blur actually is? (and I'm running late and too lazy to search at the moment, lol).
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But the thing is just the wait for all these other phones is gonna be that much longer. I doubt another one will be out the gate before TB because it's already been advertised as our first. Don't get me wrong, I'll love HTC and Android forever, but the wait is just making me want to jump ship to the Palm Pre 2. Laugh all you want, but it's pretty much the next option for me from what's currently available.
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It's not that the other phones will be released before the TB, it's that they will be released not long after now. Since the release dates are now pretty close to each other, would it be worth it to wait for a different phone?
The LG Revolution should be Q2 the last I heard. It has a 4.3" screen, HDMI out, and should have Netflix out of the box. It will also be the first voLTE to Verizon, making it as some people call it, a "true" 4G phone.
While the phone does has a front facing camera, the back camera is only a 5MP and single LED flash. No kickstand. Since it is an LG, it will lack a good interface like Sense, or even Motoblur. LG normally builds quality phones though.
I'm giving up. Going to get a Droid 1, root and customize it. I'll use that and decide if I even want Verizon's service at this point.
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I'm not leaving VZW and nothing else that we know is coming appeals to me like the TBolt. Hopefully they will get their crap together sooner rather than later. Sometimes being first (lte phone) is frustrating and disorganized.
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metropcs has been selling lte phones for a few months now. but maybe not in your area....
As for leaving VZW i did that and got a galaxy s 4g on tmobile. i loved the price, and the speed when near a 4g tower.. however i still recieved dropped calls.. (the onle smart phone that did that to me on vzw was the iphone) and the 4g coverage is horrible and the speed is erratic in good coverage areas..
I had a falling apart droid 1 that I bought on launch day and needed something new I ended up getting a droid x off ebay and loading a custom rom and done.. now i feel i have plenty of time to wait out a decent lte phone... most of the other lte phones on vzw are scheduled to launch in second QTR so really the next 3 months...
I am going to wait for a little bit now...
I still have my D1 rooted, overclocked, customized, etc. But the thing is so outdated it lags with all the crap I have loaded on it. This puts me in a crappy situation because my contract has been up since january. I was waiting on this as my next phone. If I could find a cheap phone (aka under $50 D2, Dinc or DX), I would use that for the time being for the next few months. I just almost feel like I'm wasting time because I could have started the 2 year countdown for another phone by now.
red, i played with the atrix today, and while BLUR still blows nutt juice that phone had a sex like screen if you will and blur ran buttery smooth compared to the droid x or 2, it never studdered or got choked up and although quadrant doesnt tell you much, i watched the 3d test and the FPS where off the freakin charts sometimes i saw well over 100 and it maintained a constant 60+ easily, given this phone had absolutely no apps running or even installed other than att ****ware. i was truly impressed and downloaded a couple of games while i played with it, the tegra really shines on graphic intensive stuff, i also played with the docking unit and while ive read production units dont have multi touch the display did and i must say that it was impressive. first time i have been impressed with moto that much since november of 09 with the droid 1. Hopefully when we get some rock solid info on the bionic it will have the 1gb of ram and not 512, in talking to some knowledgeable peeps about they seem to think that this could be possible since it will be basically the same as the atrix and they seemed to think that the 512mb of ram was a misprint or just a wrong quote entirely, if so, i may say **** it and go with the locked bootloader just to have such a kick ass phone. the camera was either really impressive or the screen just made it look that good, all around i would say that the the atrix is currently the most dominant phone in the android world. galxy s2 looks nice but ive already fell for that once with the fascinate(btw is still eclair in stock for FYI) but still uses the over saturated SAMOLED with the same resolution something like 800x480 and that is getting to be old news especially after playing with atrix today, if you lose hope on the bolt, the bionic will def be a winner in my book bootloader and all. screw it................well maybe not with the bootloader, depends whether i get a semi when i play with it or not the first time.
No offense to eris owners, but if you really want to give up and set the bar extremely low so you will be satisfied with any new phone you get, i suggest get an eris. lol i laugh at people who say their rooted eris will smoke the DInc, ive owned both, and if i stuck a rocket up the micro usb port on the eris it still couldnt catch the trusty old DInc. Now, back to the search for strippers and cocaine
Yeah the 512 ram on the Bionic is a turn off. I thought it was supposed to have 1gb, but motorolas website says 512. It seems like most of verizons phones always fall short of the other networks counterparts. Even my HTC Touch Pro had less ram than all the other Touch Pros on every network.
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No offense to eris owners, but if you really want to give up and set the bar extremely low so you will be satisfied with any new phone you get, i suggest get an eris. lol i laugh at people who say their rooted eris will smoke the DInc, ive owned both, and if i stuck a rocket up the micro usb port on the eris it still couldnt catch the trusty old DInc. Now, back to the search for strippers and cocaine
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So, if go to a Moto Razr I'll be more satisfied than my GingerTazz Eris?
j/k
I'm almost thinking of the incredible, wondering if I can get one for fairly cheap w/o going thru VZ that way I'll still only be locked into the rest of this contract (up in early 2012).
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So, if go to a Moto Razr I'll be more satisfied than my GingerTazz Eris?
j/k
I'm almost thinking of the incredible, wondering if I can get one for fairly cheap w/o going thru VZ that way I'll still only be locked into the rest of this contract (up in early 2012).
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yeah.. that is what i did ... except I went to the droidX so that I could get familiar with the 4.3inch size... I am very happy with this ... I have it rooted and am running the fission rom which is fast and stable. I came from a droid 1 that i purchased on launch day ... and it was starting to fall apart.. (no more sliders for me).... although I like the samsung galaxy s 4g i was concerned it did not have a message indicator light. I also stopped by an att store and played with an atrix and it was pretty sweet for the few minutes i spent with it...
either way it does look like another 3 months before we have any real phones from vzw ... I still think they are delaying these phones until they have there new lte pricing laid out... I don't think for a minute they will have unlimited lte on anything.
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yeah.. that is what i did ... except I went to the droidX so that I could get familiar with the 4.3inch size... I am very happy with this ... I have it rooted and am running the fission rom which is fast and stable. I came from a droid 1 that i purchased on launch day ... and it was starting to fall apart.. (no more sliders for me).... although I like the samsung galaxy s 4g i was concerned it did not have a message indicator light. I also stopped by an att store and played with an atrix and it was pretty sweet for the few minutes i spent with it...
either way it does look like another 3 months before we have any real phones from vzw ... I still think they are delaying these phones until they have there new lte pricing laid out... I don't think for a minute they will have unlimited lte on anything.
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It'll either be a DInc, stay w/my Eris and keep working w/Tazz's fine ROM's or buy a B&N Nook Color and hack it (because I CAN! lol). I feel the need to spend $$ (I don't have) for no reason
EDIT: Out of curiosity, why would somebody buy a phone on eBay w/a bad ESN? I see phones FS on there w/bad ESN's and wondering what you would do with one? Just use it for development or parts?
You can usually use those phones on cricket and other services like that. Some people also buy them for parts.
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Hello forum,
I've read about 9 hrs worth of info on here in 2 days. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I will try and keep this short, I might fail.
I came from an org d1 with cm7, great phone. Its old hardware and I was due for an upgrade.
I just got the HTC Thunderbolt 2 days ago. I'm not very impressed with it AT ALL. I realllllly hate the HTC SENSE gui. I've never liked HTC to begin with. But the TB had 4g (which I just found out I wont get untill 2013) and a FF Camera. I don't really care about 4G anymore, any good crap I do over WiFi anyways. As far as the FF Camera, it was fun, im over it.
I have 14 days (12) to change my mind and was told I can switch phones. I really wanted the X2 in the first place, but I went with the TB. What I really want is just a beast phone that can last 2 years with upcoming tech. Everyone I hear talking about the dual core stuff says its over rated because no OS or APPs use it yet. I've been watching some Videos on the X2 and Im liking it more.
What I wonder is if its going to have any development? The HTC TB already has tons of custom ROMs and CM7 is about there. Do you guys think the X2 will get any attention? Will there be custom ROMs? I really dont like MOTOBLUR but I would be able to put up with it for 6 months over the sense.
How is the battery? Without 4G even turned on I cant even get a full day off this TB.
Is it pretty smooth and fast? I'm a little worried about the RAM .... 512 vs 768? I mean coming from the D1 512 should be fine..... but does it feel smooth?
Are there ways right now (I know you can root) to debloat it and take off MOTOBLUR ? I really just want a clean AOSP, but I'm very willing to wait for development. I just wonder if the X2 will get any attention.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sorry so long.
If you want custom roms then stick with the Thunderbolt. Until the Motorola bootloader gets unlocked you won't be able to fully flash a custom rom.
Also the X2 does not have MOTOBLUR on it. And yes it is possible to root using gingerbreak and remove any bloatware.
I just got my X2 yesterday and the UI seems to be a lot smoother with the dual core processor compared to my old X. If you don't get 4G coverage then I would definitely go with the X2. Also in my experience Motorola phones tend to have better battery life over HTC.
The X2 does have MOTOBLUR but it is the updated version they use normally with gingerbread which is not as bad as the version they had before.
As for development like the previous poster said, until Motorola unlocks the bootloader and an sbf is found/created. ROMs are out of the question at the moment..
Personally I came from the TB and although the TB had all the custom ROMs th X2 has made me happy with the smooth UI, after some tweaking, and the battery life is alot better.
It's going to be a trade-off. If you like to root/ mod you're going to have to wait on the X2 for a while. I read they just cracked the Droid X for CM 7, so there's hope but no idea on when we might have a full range of option for the X2.
On the other hand, the DX2 works great out of the box and my only major complaint is no Gingerbread yet. I've used both and, given the TB's battery life sucks and I'm not around a 4G area at work or home and won't be for a while, the X2 is the better option in my opinion. The TB is not a bad phone over all, but without the 4G it's not a compelling device to need right now IMO.
I'd recommend you go with the X2 and wait until 4G LTE is both widespread and all the bugs are worked out in the system.
I've tried all of Verizon's 4G phones within my 14 day return period. (I'm paying full price, so I didn't just want to settle with playing with a floor model for a few minutes to make a decision.) Anyway, it was something about each one that made me not want to keep them. (Although I saw the Charge received an update that made the phone 2-3 times better from what I'm reading from users across different forms.) But I settled with the DX2. Far better signal than any of the others I had. Much better battery life. Better build quality by far. As smooth as the Thunderbolt, even with 512 of RAM. And it has the Dual Core processors, which will eventually be beneficial once more phones get them and more developers start working around them, software and app wise. I get 4G in my area in 2 months and I still choose to go with a 3G phone, because a page loading a few seconds faster on 4G than mine does on 3G, has absolutely no importance in my life. I think ffc's are kind of overrated right now, but will be the norm in the future when almost everyone has a phone with a camera on it. We can only hope Motorola will unlock the bootloader. I doubt Verizon would approve of that, but still, the original Droid X received some pretty good attention from dev's. As you can see, it was thought of enough that someone worked hard to get CM7 on there. So the dev attention will be there.
Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
I had a thunderbolt but the battery life was just to bad for me to keep it when i was near stl and had 4g it went from 100% to 25 in no time flat so i couldnt handle that. the droid x2 with all the bloat ware ran decently fast but once u take off bloat ware its great phone with much better battery but if you want 4g id say go with lg revolution it seems to be better i only played with in store but i liked it also
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Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
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No, Yes and Yes. The bootloader on the original X is still locked. That just means that you don't have complete control over the kernel. Custom roms can certainly still be added once root is established. Also, if anybody's been watching the blogs, CM7 has been release for the original X. It's a bit of backwards magic of loading overtop and after the original kernel, but it's reported to be working great.
Indeed, I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that CM7 on the DX means we're in line for it on the X2!
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would! I love this phone and I'm in the same situation as the OP. I won't get 4G til around until 2013 and I'll be eligible for an upgrade in January 2013. By then, I'm hoping to get whatever new multi-core, 4G, 3D display, FFC phone they have because I'm sure all of that will be more of a standard *AND* hopefully there will be better battery life for those kinds of features. Until then, gogo Droid X2!
FFC isn't all that great without 4G anyway and even if it was great on 3G, I still don't see myself using it until video calling becomes much more popular. I don't even know anyone else with an FFC for video calling, so how useful is that?? You gotta ask yourself: Who do I know with FFCs? and: Are we really gonna video chat a lot? Unless you're a hardcore SKYPEr or you are on business trips away from your wife and kids a lot, why not just stick to the casual video chatting you may or may not do on your PC?
Minus the custom ROM this is still a great phone and handsdown a top choice if you're gonna be outside the 4G bubbles for a while! Just sayin'.
You won't see any custom development until both an SBF file and the first update to the phone release. For the record, I'm quite surprised neither have leaked yet. Usually the SBF leaks in the first week or two and there is an update within the first couple weeks to fix stability issues. The X2 has so many stability issues that I think they're just going to push GB to the device rather than try to fix all the Froyo problems. That being said, it could still be a while before we see GB. I also wouldn't own this phone without being willing to root it. Too unstable without being able to fix the memory allocation problems.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
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That's a good point. Now that I think about it, a single core phone isnt worth $300 dollars , even if it has 4G... I just rooted my X2, and now I going to try to uninstall the bloat, but it already feels faster.
lol, i have a brand spankin new dx2 i am willing to trade for a tbolt!!
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OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would!
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I'll second the comment that nearly all the VZW phones involve compromises of some sort. The compromises on the X2 are the lack of 4G, the not-quite-top-tier screen, and the fact that we might not see custom ROMs for a very long time.
That said, my phone is my lifeline, and the X2 meets my need for good build quality, good reception, a loud speaker (I'm a little hard at hearing), and that can get me into and out of my work-related apps quickly.
I feel like I got a good PHONE that's solid, loud, reliable, and pretty quick. Good enough for me for now. If I get Cryogen on it, then all the better, but it won't kill it for me.
Chris
I had the TB and it was a POS. Bad gps, light leaks, horrible battery, terrible speaker, kickstand started peeling after a month. I'm not saying my DX2 is perfect, but it kicks the TB's ass. Love my dual core monster.
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Well guys I look at this as a blessing in disguise. I woke up to a couple random reboots two days ago. Did all the normal troubleshooting except for sbf. Called assurion since I lost my X and they had none and gave me a X2 that has been a torn in my side. I thought it was gonna be better and have been quite dissapointed.
After assurion insisted on troubleshooting all they same things I did already, after factory resetting I could not get connected to server to activate. Rendering my phone in even worse condition. They said they would mail me a replacement.
I asked if the were any other options, last time we talked the best they could do was a incredible2, which I declined. I played dumb and asked if there were any other dual core 3g phones since I wasnt happy with the tegra 2 based phones. I told them I had read alot about the droid x2 and many people have been unpleased, maybe it was like getting a new model car and they say to wait for the following year so they are able to tweak everything. Kinda like tegra 2 and now all the phones are using the omap dual core. She offered me the droid 3 which I jumped all over, which is what I wanted last time I called in.
I am not a X2 hater, I loved my X which unfortunately I lost. I thought the X2 would be so much better and not need all this hackery to make it something.
What has me plesantly surprised with the D3, which is only rooted and debloated, no scripts, roms or anything else, is I just scored a 2047 on quadrant. Blew away my X2 score on smartbench and antutu came in right under sgs2. Now that had me impressed, since with my X2 on the atrix rom with scripts and all the goodies the best I could get in quadrant was 1700s.
Having a keyboard again is nice, its a world phone, 1080p recording, front cam as well, 3d motoblur is very desirable, and the pentile looks better a bit smaller. I really like this phone as a replacement to X2.
So after putting this out there, I know there are tons of unhappy X2 owner, so if you can figure away to get a droid 3 from assurion, you know what I mean, which shouldnt be hard with all the issues the phone has, GO FOR IT, you will be very surprised.
Oh I forgot to mention they also sent me a free car charger and earpiece, which probably doesn't cost them much, but was a nice surprise. They must several unhappy people with the X2s they decide to give out in place of X.
Why are you posting?
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Why are you posting?
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so we can use and abuse our insurance companies and force them to raise our rates, duh.
Yeah but did it come with a transparent lock bar enquiring minds want to know
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so we can use and abuse our insurance companies and force them to raise our rates, duh.
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Well that goes without saying, but why not wait until next summer when they are forced to give out 4G lte phones?
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Yeah but did it come with a transparent lock bar enquiring minds want to know
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Lol post of the wk right there.
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Verizon would have replaced it themselves under warranty, so long as there was no big damage or water damage. Not sure why you went through Assurion for that anyways.
Cool post, bro.
My gf actually wants to trade her D3 for an X2, so I guess there are people on both sides on the tracks.
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Cool post, bro.
My gf actually wants to trade her D3 for an X2, so I guess there are people on both sides on the tracks.
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Grass is always greener on the other side
I don't know about anyone else, but my X2 out of the box always scored about a 2300-2400 on Quadrant. Using Eclipse I get 2600-2900 regularly.
Also there are a few other things I notice with my X2. The biggest thing is that tons and tons of people complain about music skipping. I have never had this problem at all on my X2 not even once playing V0 VBR MP3s on 2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 stock or Eclipse.
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I don't know about anyone else, but my X2 out of the box always scored about a 2300-2400 on Quadrant. Using Eclipse I get 2600-2900 regularly.
Also there are a few other things I notice with my X2. The biggest thing is that tons and tons of people complain about music skipping. I have never had this problem at all on my X2 not even once playing V0 VBR MP3s on 2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 stock or Eclipse.
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My phone is on stock rom....rooted, froze bloat, few other odds and ends.....never had that problem either with any of the updates
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Agreed on the quadrant score. I consistently hit 2800 on my x2. Droid three has a keyboard. That is a deal breaker in my book. Plus the smaller screen.
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I've always gotten 2800-2900 on Quadrant on Stock and Eclipse.
I had music skipping problems on 2.2 and 2.3.3 but I don't on 2.3.4.
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Cause I want to.
Cause I can.
Also letting other people know if they are unhappy with there X2 there is a way out.
Why are you posting???
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Ha ha. kinda. Its completely different. Its a completely different look.
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so we can use and abuse our insurance companies and force them to raise our rates, duh.
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Although that can be done, that is not what happened here. I have 4 droid X2 replacement from them because they are crap.
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Verizon would have replaced it themselves under warranty, so long as there was no big damage or water damage. Not sure why you went through Assurion for that anyways.
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Because I initially lost my X and they gave me a X2 and I have had nothing but problems since.
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I don't know about anyone else, but my X2 out of the box always scored about a 2300-2400 on Quadrant. Using Eclipse I get 2600-2900 regularly.
Also there are a few other things I notice with my X2. The biggest thing is that tons and tons of people complain about music skipping. I have never had this problem at all on my X2 not even once playing V0 VBR MP3s on 2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 stock or Eclipse.
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Your one of the lucky ones in guess
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Because I initially lost my X and they gave me a X2 and I have had nothing but problems since.
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Perhaps you've just had bad luck, but these types of threads are never really 'welcomed'. Basically you're telling everyone here their phone sucks, and they're idiots if the keep using them.
Thread closed, it's useless.
Who's gonna pony up for the D4 tomorrow?
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Physical keyboard? No thanks.
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Meh. Spec wise it's nice, but it's really just a RAZR with a keyboard. Battery isn't that impressive, around 1800 mAh IIRC (Dx2 stock is 1500), and with 4G LTE this'll be another charge in the morning, charge in the evening type phone (if you last till the evening) AND the battery isn't even removable!
Plus there's always that bootloader issue and the fact it isn't running ICS, which means it'll be getting that after the razr, xoom and bionic.
No thanks. I'm good on Moto devices for a while anyway.
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Physical keyboard? No thanks.
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Who cares, just another locked down phone imo
The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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+100 on that!
Skelente said:
Meh. Spec wise it's nice, but it's really just a RAZR with a keyboard. Battery isn't that impressive, around 1800 mAh IIRC (Dx2 stock is 1500), and with 4G LTE this'll be another charge in the morning, charge in the evening type phone (if you last till the evening) AND the battery isn't even removable!
Plus there's always that bootloader issue and the fact it isn't running ICS, which means it'll be getting that after the razr, xoom and bionic.
No thanks. I'm good on Moto devices for a while anyway.
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Razr with a keyboard is exactly what I want. Plus 4g.
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Honestly if any newer phone, I'd go with RAZR MAXX hands down. That battery let alone is worth it, and I'd love to see every newer phone have that size. That battery on the X2 is ridiculously big.
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The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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QFT!
I've got about 6 months left on this phone and then I'm done with Moto if they haven't changed their ways (which I don't see happening).
The x2 will also be my last Motorola phone. I miss being able to mod my phone. I have cm7 now but the lack of roms really makes me want to switch.
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There's not a lack of ROMs. In fact, we have a lot of ROMs:
Liberty - although it appears development has stopped
Molten - Magma is supposedly on the horizon
CM7 - another release is forthcoming in a few days per DZK
MIUI - still a work in progress
CM9 - not released yet, but DZK is working on it
Eclipse - Nitro is constantly working on this. 2.0.4 was just released.
So, lack of ROMs isn't an issue with this phone. I'd say we have quite a lot to choose from.
What has us upset is apparently, no ICS and no unlocked bootloader. The latter is a big issue because they promised they would start unlocking bootloaders. To this date, there is just ONE phone that has a bootloader unlocked and it hasn't been released yet - the Droid RAZR Developer Edition and who's to say whether or not Verizon will release this phone onto their network. My feeling is no AND I don't want to purchase ANOTHER Motorola phone just to get my bootloader unlocked.
That is really the ONLY reason I'm not going with Moto anymore. I'm also looking into getting off of Verizon. Problem is, I really need the coverage and no other carrier has the coverage I need in the areas I go to and I must have my coverage, period. So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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HTC Rezound looks pretty nice doesn't it?
I'm not sure I could jump back to a physical keyboard. I like versatilitylity and i don't thI'd i'd want the bulk.
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There's not a lack of ROMs. In fact, we have a lot of ROMs:
Liberty - although it appears development has stopped
Molten - Magma is supposedly on the horizon
CM7 - another release is forthcoming in a few days per DZK
MIUI - still a work in progress
CM9 - not released yet, but DZK is working on it
ECLIPSE - Nitro is constantly working on this. 2.0.4 was just released.
So, lack of ROMs isn't an issue with this phone. I'd say we have quite a lot to choose from.
What has us upset is apparently, no ICS and no unlocked bootloader. The latter is a big issue because they promised they would start unlocking bootloaders. To this date, there is just ONE phone that has a bootloader unlocked and it hasn't been released yet - the Droid RAZR Developer Edition and who's to say whether or not Verizon will release this phone onto their network. My feeling is no AND I don't want to purchase ANOTHER Motorola phone just to get my bootloader unlocked.
That is really the ONLY reason I'm not going with Moto anymore. I'm also looking into getting off of Verizon. Problem is, I really need the coverage and no other carrier has the coverage I need in the areas I go to and I must have my coverage, period. So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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FIXED
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When I first got my phone I had a choice between the Droid X2 or the Droid 3. I've never had an android phone before so I didnt know what the differences were as far as ROMs and such. So the only reason I didnt get the Droid 3 is because of the slide out keyboard. Not that I had a problem with a slide out physical keyboard (I DID have a Pre Plus before this), I would just never use it. I dont like using my phone in portrait mode. I dont know why. It just doesnt seem comfortable to me. So I wouldnt get a phone with a portrait slide out keyboard, which means I will probably never get a phone from the Droid series. Im fairly happy with my DX2. But then again, with this being my first android phone, I dont know what its like to have an unlocked bootloader. My next phone will probably not be Motorola just to see what other phones can do.
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HTC Rezound looks pretty nice doesn't it?
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Ummm hell yes, it does! WasabiWa83 has a Rezound (previous Droid X2 owner) and raves about it. It is quite possibly one of the most amazing phones I have ever seen. Unless something better comes out in the next few months, my next phone will be a Rezound.
P.S. - WasabiWa83 also does custom signatures, wallpapers, posters, etc for phones/computers if anyone is interested! I've had him do some for me (he actually created my sig, my phone's homescreen wallpaper, and my computer's desktop wallpaper), and his work is amazing, whether you want something big or small.
Well, my time as an X2 user has now officially come to a close. I know with all my rantings and ravings, I swore to NEVER purchase another Motorola device, but I was able to obtain a Droid RAZR and the issues with the X2 just made me have to bite the bullet and go with the RAZR instead.
All I can say is, the X2 is definitely a problem child and I can see why Motorola has decided to abandon it. The big issue has to be the memory, aka the lack of it. I know DZK is working hard on CM9 but he even states a lot of the current issues with the Alpha are due to the lack of memory the X2 has.
On the RAZR, things are smooth and music NEVER skips. My apps run great, including my games. And, since I didn't upgrade to the RAZR via Verizon (got the phone outside of Verizon), I was able to keep my unlimited data even though I switched to 4g. I also didn't have to pay the stupid $30 upgrade fee. So, that makes up for the fact that I went with ANOTHER Motorola phone. I just couldn't wait any longer and stick with the X2. It was just getting horrendous.
I'll still lurk around these forums and offer help where needed. I must say that this community is definitely VERY friendly and helpful. I haven't gotten a good handle on how the RAZR community is, but it appears to be pretty helpful.
In any case, Hasta la vista people!
Good to see you're happy with the Razr. Never knew you could keep all of your plan info if you buy from a 3rd party. Cheers!
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thelowend said:
Good to see you're happy with the Razr. Never knew you could keep all of your plan info if you buy from a 3rd party. Cheers!
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It's because I didn't upgrade through Verizon. It wasn't a contract extension or anything. In fact, my new-every-two is STILL valid at this point.
So, if you can get a phone outside of verizon for free or cheap, do it. In fact, I'll more than likely stay on this phone for the next year or two and by then, my contract will be done and I can leave Verizon without penalty as I won't be under contract anymore.
I'll have to wait and see, though.
I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
With that said, I hope the Razr turns out to be a better experience Bolski. And all your ranting and raving was/is appreciated. Even though Moto-Rizon didn't come through, you put up a helluva fight and at a minimum, probably made them spend as much money replying to you as you spent on the DX2!
Cheers!
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I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
With that said, I hope the Razr turns out to be a better experience Bolski. And all your ranting and raving was/is appreciated. Even though Moto-Rizon didn't come through, you put up a helluva fight and at a minimum, probably made them spend as much money replying to you as you spent on the DX2!
Cheers!
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Yeah, who knows. As it is, it may even be an architectural issue with the X2, depending on how they put that thing together and how it manages memory.
In any case, it now sits on my desk shelf for now, relegated to the retired realm with all the other phones I have on there.
I will say, the RAZR is definitely leaps and bounds better than the X2. No music skipping, music sounds better, etc. There are some caveats with it, including SD flip-flop not working as nicely as it does on the X2. But, overall, I can live with that. Just means less games installed at one time.
My dad had the razr and is currently doing nothing with it. I'm wondering if I should save my money, hold out on the nexus and see if I can switch to his razr. Honestly I really like the device and I don't see any huge downsides to it.
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thelowend said:
My dad had the razr and is currently doing nothing with it. I'm wondering if I should save my money, hold out on the nexus and see if I can switch to his razr. Honestly I really like the device and I don't see any huge downsides to it.
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I've heard mostly positive things as well about it.
iBolski, I wish you the best. Keep is posted here or in the Bored topics. Interested in how it settles in for you. We may have a few following you in a month or so.
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LaserChicken said:
I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
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I don't buy it either! All those new "low-end" devices running ICS lead me to believe that Moto refuses to update this device to keep from losing out on sales of newer devices. Just look at the OP and what he did, X2 to RAZR....just like Motorola figured would happen
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I don't buy it either! All those new "low-end" devices running ICS lead me to believe that Moto refuses to update this device to keep from losing out on sales of newer devices. Just look at the OP and what he did, X2 to RAZR....just like Motorola figured would happen
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The only way I believe it is because of two things:
1) Dragonzkiller has stated the issue with the current implementation of CM9DX2 is memory based on the architecture of the X2.
2) My first droid, an LG Vortex, was a single-core processor running at 600mhz. It NEVER skipped music. It had MUCH less memory than the X2, etc. So, I really think the architecture of the x2, hardware-wise, is the culprit and no amount of programming will fix it, unfortunately.
I could be wrong and I hope I am, but so far, all the removal of the Motobloat hasn't removed it completely under CM7 or Eclipse. It has helped, but the problem still persisted and for me, it appeared to be getting worse as the phone aged. Heck, it even happened when nothing else was going on.
But in any case, all I can say is so far, I'm very happy with the RAZR. It's performance is top-notch. One thing I've noticed is, I had an extended battery in my X2 and the RAZR seems to keep pace with it, so I guess it's not all that bad. Juice Defender Ultimate definitely helps.
I don't understand the music skipping problem. I've never encountered this issue. The only time my music skips is when a call comes in, so that really doesn't count.
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I don't understand the music skipping problem. I've never encountered this issue. The only time my music skips is when a call comes in, so that really doesn't count.
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Try using Pandora, that skips pretty much when you do anything, also usually a guaranteed skip for music would be opening the app manager, it hates that lol
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Basically for me the skip only happens when I'm multitasking. If it's just playing music it's fine.
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I used my X2 as a mp3 player for work. I used YouTube, Pandora, and the music app for mp3s I already had on the phone. Music app was the only thing that ever skipped for me. When it did it was here and there. It would skip for a minute then stop and be okay again. Not really as bad as people here seen to say
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Thanks for all your efforts ibolski. From the looks of things I'll either be getting the razr or pre ordering the sgs3 before the data plan change to keep my unlimited data for a couple more years anyway.
Have to say I'm still leaning towards the razr because of the build quality in spite of the Locked bootloader. Anyway good luck from here and again thanks for your contributions to what is IMHO the best forum period.
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Played around with the razr for a good half hour and it does everything I need it too do quickly. 4G is great and the software is smooth. The MAXX is almost guaranteed ICS and battery life is impeccable. I'm finding that having my phone live and strong is a serious must when I'm out on the road as our bus radio range is terrible and the GPS phones we get can't make calls. I never get the chance to charge during the day.
The only issue being raised is the development aspect of the phone - more specifically the next version of android. Will moto pull a X2 and give a big fat NO to the device?
Thinking out loud...hehe
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Well if they do that, I think the devs here on xda have gotten android on the razr...again I "think"
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Triscuit said:
Well if they do that, I think the devs here on xda have gotten android on the razr...again I "think"
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I dont quite understand what you're saying?
thelowend said:
I dont quite understand what you're saying?
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Well, kexec is out for the razr which allows loading a custom kernel. Unfortunately, at this time only 1 core works, but they are working diligently on it to get it working with two cores. But, that's farther along than the X2 at this point.
Also, there are plenty of ICS leaks out there for the razr. They are unofficial leaks from Motorola and some people have been getting text messages from Motorola stating that ICS for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX is due out soon.
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Well, kexec is out for the razr which allows loading a custom kernel. Unfortunately, at this time only 1 core works, but they are working diligently on it to get it working with two cores. But, that's farther along than the X2 at this point.
Also, there are plenty of ICS leaks out there for the razr. They are unofficial leaks from Motorola and some people have been getting text messages from Motorola stating that ICS for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX is due out soon.
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Figured thats what was being referenced. Now I'm wondering about just getting a 3800 mAH battery for the Nexus...
Lord I am so indecisive.
Oops...I meant to say Ice Cream Sandwich
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