Let me start by saying, i'm running stock untouched, unrooted, i turned it on and installed apps from the market, version of Gt10.1. It is the 32Gb version and came with 3.1 on it.
I've had my Gt10.1 for almost a week now and I must say that I'm stunned at the frequency of FC errors from various apps. I mean even my "Samsung Account" force closes after each restart.
Anyone else noticed that the screen isn't calibrated correctly. Seems I have to touch to the right of what I intend to select. This is particularly noticeable when selecting text in the browser or in text editors such as this app.
Should I reset to factory?
A lot of apps that work just find on my Epic4G are unstable or not available ... like where is facebook???? And how come nearly every game is either buggy or not available... EA games are just unsupported?
Is there a place anywhere that filters the marketplace by supported os version ? I.e. what is proven to work on HC 3.1
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I will appreciate Any guideance suggestion or insight... Anyone?
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Giia said:
Let me start by saying, i'm running stock untouched, unrooted, i turned it on and installed apps from the market, version of Gt10.1. It is the 32Gb version and came with 3.1 on it.
I've had my Gt10.1 for almost a week now and I must say that I'm stunned at the frequency of FC errors from various apps. I mean even my "Samsung Account" force closes after each restart.
Anyone else noticed that the screen isn't calibrated correctly. Seems I have to touch to the right of what I intend to select. This is particularly noticeable when selecting text in the browser or in text editors such as this app.
Should I reset to factory?
A lot of apps that work just find on my Epic4G are unstable or not available ... like where is facebook???? And how come nearly every game is either buggy or not available... EA games are just unsupported?
Is there a place anywhere that filters the marketplace by supported os version ? I.e. what is proven to work on HC 3.1
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Facebook has been pulled from the tablet market for a while.
The samsung force close is on every tablet I think after reboot
I'd try resetting and see if that helps with the force closes and the screen inaccuracy. Maybe try not loading every app you had before. If that doesn't work, take it back to where you bought it and see if you can get an exchange.
Yeah its disgracefull that samsung have released the tab with so many bugs. Im writing this now on my tab and the text cant even keep up with my typing...the whole gt 10.1 is an unpleasant experience, the amount of force closes is staggering and unaceptable. theres no filterin the market to show only tab apps, it gives off a high pitch noise after every selection from the speakers, theres no predictive text input, the video play back its utter crap,why dont the home buttons auto hide to give more screen space, reading books is awfull due to each page being out of focus for a split second before being displayed properly. Theres people with dust under the screen, oh and the batteru life is in my opinion well below stated. and last but definately not least yeah it does flash in websites but not 100% some sites work and some are awfull,,,,
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Yeah its disgracefull that samsung have released the tab with so many bugs. Im writing this now on my tab and the text cant even keep up with my typing...the whole gt 10.1 is an unpleasant experience, the amount of force closes is staggering and unaceptable. theres no filterin the market to show only tab apps, it gives off a high pitch noise after every selection from the speakers, theres no predictive text input, the video play back its utter crap,why dont the home buttons auto hide to give more screen space, reading books is awfull due to each page being out of focus for a split second before being displayed properly. Theres people with dust under the screen, oh and the batteru life is in my opinion well below stated. and last but definately not least yeah it does flash in websites but not 100% some sites work and some are awfull,,,,
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I feel for u. I've resolved the laggy keyboard by sticking with either the Android keyboard or Thumb keyboard. Both perform excellently. My experience has been that hidden home buttons seem to be a per app behavior. Example. Kindle app does it beautifully. I also have not experienced the out of focus issue. The video / screen rendering is unparalleled. Ive only experienced poor battery stats when I'm streaming from a weak wifi connection.. like being tethered to my phone running 3g 3bars or less.
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-There is a problem with the way the stock browser handles text selection in web fields, it's probably related to some of the JavaScript problems the browser has. Until it gets patched a workaround is to use the Opera web browser.
-There are a few lists that people have compiled of HC optimized apps and games: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
@richie_jones:
-Turn off audible selection under settings>sound
-The default Samsung keyboard has XT9 predictive text, but you have to go into settings to enable it first. There are also numerous alternative keyboards to use if you don't like that keyboard.
-Video playback is very good on the tab. But like every tablet on the market you should convert your video to mp4 first for optimum results, or use an alternate video player such as MoboPlayer, Rock Player, Vplayer etc. If you don't know how to covert video files then check this thread for some simple instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
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Facebook has been pulled from the tablet market for a while.
The samsung force close is on every tablet I think after reboot
I'd try resetting and see if that helps with the force closes and the screen inaccuracy. Maybe try not loading every app you had before. If that doesn't work, take it back to where you bought it and see if you can get an exchange.
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I will reset now and post once it's done.
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I will reset now and post once it's done.
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Yeah I believe the samsung force close is caused by an authentication issue on the samsung account. I looked in log with aLogCat after a force close (they always come at boot and always twice) and there was an exception logged from the samsung account app.
This happens when connected to a wifi network and also when not connected. Whatever causes it to bw unable to authenticate, the Samsung Account app certainly doesnt handle that condition well.
And finally, you think Samsung would have caught this one....
I took my Tab 10.1 back and got a Tab 7" instead. Honeycomb has a long way to go really, and all the issues the OP had I can attest to. Hardware was nice, slim and tight but given the software issues I couldn't justify the $500 tag when a 7" tab was going for $200 brand new. Very happy with my decision.
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I reset to default and everything works perfectly now... the text SLOWNESS is limited to the default browser app.. I use either Opera or Dolphin now.
My only gripe now is with Samsungs advertisement or shall I say FALSE advertisement... this is not the tab they advertise. It does not have touchwiz, mini apps or Media Hub support
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i have a touchwhiz rom running and love it. very smooth
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i have a touchwhiz rom running and love it. very smooth
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So you have no lag on the home screens when scrolling from one to the other, you have no typing lag on google browser. I don't think so....
Smooth it definitely is not"..."
no lag with he screens. Keyboard lag yes. Otherwise its running nice. It is a leaked tw rom that has been modified. I expect a custom rom based on the official release in a couple days.
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Everything force closes on this thing. Including the app for this forum.
Social reader
Facebook
Xda forum
Crackle
Is it just me?
Sony S1 Tablet
Honeycomb 3.2
The only thing that force closes with me and many others is Crackle
Other than this I think you have to factory-reset your device as other applications are running fine
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Facebook force closes when I search friends but ok on the news feed, also got fc on the sky news app, also get the odd message saying social media has fcd as well
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Yes I get constant force closes on many apps and the browser. Seems like a honeycomb issue. Please fix this for ICS google.
I am hoping this is fixed with Flash 11 that just came out. So far so good.
Facebook used to force close on me a few days ago, after a powercycle (reboot) it went away.. so far only XDA app force closes on me, but when i use Tapatalk, it works fine.
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Facebook used to force close on me a few days ago, after a powercycle (reboot) it went away.. so far only XDA app force closes on me, but when i use Tapatalk, it works fine.
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I finally rebooted for the first time since receiving the device 7 days ago. I realized that would probably take care of some of the issues.
Hey Gutta624,
I'm having force close issues with my Sony Tablet S too. I wasn't getting any when I first got the tablet but ever since the 3.2.1 update I have been. I can't even access the Google Accounts app and sync the device to my google account.
I've started a thread called "Constant force closes since 3.2.1" on the androidtablets forum. I'd post a link but the best I can do is androidtablets (dot) net because this is my first post here at xda-developers.
I plan to take my device to the nearest service center this week so I'll let you know how that goes.
Gutta624 said:
Everything force closes on this thing. Including the app for this forum.
Social reader
Facebook
Xda forum
Crackle
Is it just me?
Sony S1 Tablet
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No Problem with Facebook
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Crackle m not using
CHECK THIS THREAD for other common issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280370
Do you sync your brower bookmarks with your google account? I have the same issues when activating the sync.
I have to say, this is a worrying thing with this Tablet. My other half has an ipad 2, and although it doesn't have flash, the rest of it does work as it should. Whereas the Sony seems to have all these niggly issues with it.
So now I have to weigh up the options - no flash but reliable os, or flash support but seemingly endless problems.
I've just got a nagging doubt about the Sony that if I get one I'm going to end up regretting it and wishing I'd just got a proper ipad instead.
Anyone have a problem free, happy Sony tablet experience?
Love the device... the software is miserable.
1. Social App and the Browser sometimes force close.
2. Zinio is frequently unresponsive and has to be force closed - happens regularly now that I have a few magazines in my library.
3. Stock browser is awefully laggy. This in comparison with my HTC Desire Z running Gingerbread. Try [www techradar com]. Very very slow and generally unresponsive. This is but one example. the lastest has been a laggy Sony app selection website. Oh... Opera often closes with no warning or error.
4. Dammit... Stanard Keyboard just force closed typing this.
5. The text selection is terribly buggy. Often can't select the right spot... the green arrows jump around erractically making the whole experience frustrating. Happens right here on XDA.
6. Predicition isn't't as good as the HTC devices... and they keyboard is not as responsive as the demo unit... either because of a software upgrade or the sony screen protector. Find that keys aren't't registering... most evident on the space bar.
The above isn't't at all acceptable and I'm hoping asoftware upgrade fixes it.
7. We were sold this device (in singapore) as a playsation certified device... and there isn't a store available... bad sony!!!
8. swapping between devices in the remote control app is too slow.
9. The DNLA app is frustrating.... slowt ransfers over wireless network... doesn't handle 90% of the video I have (from HTC and Panasonic) devices. Also clumsy interface... Doesn't even remember prior folder selections.
10. Battery drainage on standby is really mindboggling. Lose about 16% per day. I get about 4 maybe 5 at best out of the device. charging is awefully slow compared to other devices. Typically 3 to 4 hrs to recharge fully (from 14%).
I've taken a lot of time andcare diagnosing andcan't attribute the issues to anything otherthan software.... and this line was me typing at full speed with keyboard lag.
Would appreciate feedback.
Oh... how do I stop the autoreplace from forcing a replacement? I know you can select it but that would save it to the dictionary which I don't want. On the HTCs you simply click the empty space following the word and it's ignored.
Regards
I am also from Singapore..download the account manager apk and sign up..u will be able to download free PS games...
Today m going to sony store to replace my tab as its back case started creaking sound which is frustating..
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Curious if any other note owners have the same issue with the auto fit to screen in the browser. There is absolutely no change whether on or off. Again that's the fit to screen option in the browser not working. Thanks
Same issue with me. Quite disappointed.
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Thanks for the reply, only found two bugs so far. The previous mentioned above and some text issues hoping the release of ics addresses these problems. I left sprint for this phone with 4 early termination fees, AT&T don't make me go back.. Sad thing is regardless of which browser I use nothing seems to fix the auto fit.
Sad if a minor browser issue makes you change carriers.
The stock android browser sucks. Miren is flawless
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I just turned on Auto-Fit in the stock browser and it works for me... I am stock rooted.
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No the browser issue isn't enough for me to leave. as far a rooting I'm waiting out the 30 trial just to be cautious. After that I'll create a tar ball recovery file via odin, and begin to mess around with some of the system files.
The first thing on my list is a custom themed dialer activity tab, not a huge fan of the stock dial pad from Samsung,, but I do love the phone..
Here's how I do it on mine..
Start off in Portrait position.
bring up the web page with your stock browser..
then either double tap on it or pinch zoom it a bit..(if not an m.mobile web page)
then rotate to landscape position..
BAM.. the 'auto-fit' kicks in..
I believe it works visa-verse too..
I always start in portrait then rotate to landscape.
it works for me.. good luck
ps.. if this works for you... hit me with a 'thanks' button..
That worked but every time you resize by pinching you have to keep rotating it so it kicks in again,that is definitely a bug.
To funny,, your right it works if you keep rotating. Oh well Samsung just wants to insure we get lots of hands on and interaction with the phone.
Ditto here it works fine. You just need to check mark auto fit web page in browser settings.
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To funny,, your right it works if you keep rotating. Oh well Samsung just wants to insure we get lots of hands on and interaction with the phone.
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Ok so I tried the double tapping and that works as well but since the text still looked small I adjusted the default zoom in browser settings and much better.
I have a Galaxy S II (T-989) and use Dolphin HD Browser and it seems to work great on my device. Might be worth giving a shot on the note.
I just ordered a Note so I'm pre-troubleshooting so I know what issues to look out for and how to solve them when it comes in
Works fine for me in opera
like some of the people here, my stock browser will hang up and be unresponsive on a regular basis. Sometimes a force close helps, but sometimes, when I look in the Asus Task Manager, or if I go to Settings> Apps > select "Running Apps", the browser doesn't show up, as if it's not even considered running. I usually have to select the app itself from settings > apps and then force close it.
Anyone else find it strange that the device doesn't even show the app as "running"? I don't know what to make of this, but perhaps someone else here does.
BTW, I did try Gary's Key's experimental fix, and got rid of Chrome and flash, rebooted, and then reinstalled Flash, but I'm still having the same problem.
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like some of the people here, my stock browser will hang up and be unresponsive on a regular basis. Sometimes a force close helps, but sometimes, when I look in the Asus Task Manager, or if I go to Settings> Apps > select "Running Apps", the browser doesn't show up, as if it's not even considered running. I usually have to select the app itself from settings > apps and then force close it.
Anyone else find it strange that the device doesn't even show the app as "running"? I don't know what to make of this, but perhaps someone else here does.
BTW, I did try Gary's Key's experimental fix, and got rid of Chrome and flash, rebooted, and then reinstalled Flash, but I'm still having the same problem.
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Ya, uninstalling Chrome and Flash didn't work for me either. I want to say that the browser hanging issue has been a problem with mine ever since I got it, but I honestly can't remember for sure. Hopefully this is something that is fixed soon as the browser is probably the most used thing on a tablet, so it is quite an annoying thing to have to deal with.
As far as the browser not showing up in the Running Apps list, I know I have seen the same thing with other apps as well. I'm not sure off the top of my head which Apps they were but I know in the past I have tried to go to the Running Apps list to try and force close an app only to find that it wasn't listed. I had to switch to the All Apps view and found the app that I wanted to kill that way.
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sometimes, when I look in the Asus Task Manager, or if I go to Settings> Apps > select "Running Apps", the browser doesn't show up, as if it's not even considered running. I usually have to select the app itself from settings > apps and then force close it.
Anyone else find it strange that the device doesn't even show the app as "running"? I don't know what to make of this, but perhaps someone else here does.
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Have you tried tapping "Show Cached Processes" in the top-right corner? Android apps might appear to be "running" but are in fact suspended and cached ready to be instantly restored provided that the RAM being used to cache them isn't needed for other purposes.
I havent looked to see if the browser shows up in apps running.....
BUT BY GOD FIX THE BROWSER.....OH THE HUMANITY!!!
I may have 10 apps intalled, stupid ones. Even before I installed ANY apps I would get the "browser not responding...wait/cancel...."
It seems to have gotten worse with the latest updates. Now I get LOCKUPS like others are talking about. Resets havent helped.
Dont know, but this **** is getting old!
EDIT: Why the hell do I have to go thru all these apps, resets, clear caches etc.....the browser should, well just freaking work.
I've noticed more and more browser issues lately. Like playing a game on Facebook.... forget it. Then I get the dreaded wait box. Why can't Google make a browser that actually works?
Do you have plugins set to "always on" or "on demand" in the stock browser? I found that setting them to on demand stops all that. I think it's the flash plugin and the way sites are using it that's causing all the problems.
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Do you have plugins set to "always on" or "on demand" in the stock browser? I found that setting them to on demand stops all that. I think it's the flash plugin and the way sites are using it that's causing all the problems.
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I get problems with the stock browser with them on "on demand". "Always on" would slow things down too much to leave on anyway.
I had these problems since the Prime's inception.
I really like to see an Internet Explorer for Android. That's how bad the current batch of Android browsers have sucked so bad. I have to turn to IE for hope.
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I had these problems since the Prime's inception.
I really like to see an Internet Explorer for Android. That's how bad the current batch of Android browsers have sucked so bad. I have to turn to IE for hope.
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I realize the quasi-joking, but what a horrid comment.
I'm sorry, but I feel that Opera Mini generally does a better job than IE ever thought of: then there's Opera Mobile, it's the only one I'll consider for my phone. ICS Browser+ does a good job of showing you what the stock browser could be. MaxthonPad handles and looks pretty well, I don't personally use gestures and the new tab button is kind of in a bad place IMO.
Anyway, nothing I've tried has remedied the stock browser, and I hadn't noticed it missing in Running Apps, but it's not often that I look there or force close anything.
Both my ICS phone and my TFP as well as my friend complaining about it on his ICS phone are all unstable. Granted it has yet to really annoy me but I think its Android not the TPF. This is my opinion YMMV and it could be the ASUS fault in some way.
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Both my ICS phone and my TFP as well as my friend complaining about it on his ICS phone are all unstable. Granted it has yet to really annoy me but I think its Android not the TPF. This is my opinion YMMV and it could be the ASUS fault in some way.
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Not true.
I have a Galaxy Nexus with ICS and I never had this problem on that browser.
It's somewhat related to the TPF.
sad, because besides this problem I love this tablet.
rubi76 said:
Not true.
I have a Galaxy Nexus with ICS and I never had this problem on that browser.
It's somewhat related to the TPF.
sad, because besides this problem I love this tablet.
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Like i said your mileage may vary. Three cases on my end is making me think its Android its self. You haven't seen the issue on your end so it points to the Prime. Different cases and different perspectives. Then again the Galaxy Nexus is also ICS Native so maybe that could be part of the problem I don't pretend to have that answer.
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markimar said:
I've noticed more and more browser issues lately. Like playing a game on Facebook.... forget it. Then I get the dreaded wait box. Why can't Google make a browser that actually works?
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Don't blame Google. Blame Asus. I've had a GSM Galaxy Nexus since launch, and the browser works flawlessly - no hangs, no unresponsiveness. This is all Asus.
Speaking of stock browser problems, anyone else notice anything like this? Some kind of malicious exploit in a browser's cache or something-other, apparently even an unrooted user got the issue so I just find it really interesting since that rules out changes to the hosts file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542804
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Annoying but works
Someone mentioned in the other post that taking off javascript and putting plugins on demand helps. No lies it does its like night and day. Nothing like just plugins on demand by itself. Im not sure if its Asus or Android but the problem is somewhere in there.
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Someone mentioned in the other post that taking off javascript and putting plugins on demand helps. No lies it does its like night and day. Nothing like just plugins on demand by itself. Im not sure if its Asus or Android but the problem is somewhere in there.
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It was me, and indeed ics browser+ without javascript is extremely fast. It's now even faster then chrome on my desktop pc.
It's gone from 5sec loading time for this forum to sub 1sec.
Only problem is that some sites need the javascript. But for that you can use a different browser.
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Don't blame Google. Blame Asus. I've had a GSM Galaxy Nexus since launch, and the browser works flawlessly - no hangs, no unresponsiveness. This is all Asus.
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Exactly!! If anyone remembers awhile back I was bragging on how the galaxy nexus running ICS put the iPhone 4s browser to shame & that was with flash running!!
I said once Asus got ICS it would blow Apple away. Well Asus screwed that up big time!
Guys, could someone who knows what he's doing change vm heap size to 128 or even lower and try then? I've done a bit of research and 256 seems way to high.
One thing for sure, its not browsers, chrome or flash fault.
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It was me, and indeed ics browser+ without javascript is extremely fast. It's now even faster then chrome on my desktop pc.
It's gone from 5sec loading time for this forum to sub 1sec.
Only problem is that some sites need the javascript. But for that you can use a different browser.
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Try using it while streaming radio in background. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
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It was me, and indeed ics browser+ without javascript is extremely fast. It's now even faster then chrome on my desktop pc.
It's gone from 5sec loading time for this forum to sub 1sec.
Only problem is that some sites need the javascript. But for that you can use a different browser.
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How exactly do you know if a site uses javascript? Does the site just not load or is it minor? What kind of stuff uses it?
Going to give this a shot on my prime. The hangups are pretty annoying but I have really gotten used to and like the ICS+ browser so don't want to change!
Ever since Honeycomb, the absolute biggest problem I've had with this tablet is the browser. It doesn't freaking stay open. No matter what browser I use, no matter if I'm running Honeycomb, ICS or Jellybean, the browser always crashes. And it's not a typical FC either; It just closes right back to Launcher.
I've been hearing that it's caused by some null pointer exception in JavaScript; But you mean to tell me between Android 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0 - 4.0.4 and 4.1, 4.1.1, that this issue STILL isn't resolved? Not to mention, it only happens on tablets (Tegra 2 issue? Xoom has the same issue).
For me, it most notably happens when I'm browsing a Twitter page. In the past minute alone, I've had browser crash on my SIX times trying to load a page on Twitter. Let's make that 7 now.
So what the hell really causes this, and why won't it go away? My Sensation and myTouch 4G can browse just fine, and this temporary Galaxy S III works perfectly too, so what's with the tablet?
EDIT: Disabled JavaScript and set plugins to ondemand. Same damn result.
I've used the stock browser, Dolphin, Chrome, and Skyfire and none of them have ever crashed on me. Ever. Sounds like there is either something defective about your device perhaps your internet connection. A factory reset might help, as might going into applications, finding the Google framework and clearing data. Do the same for your browsers as well.
That's funny, I've noticed just the same thing. Browsers work terribly on this tablet.
With me, they only do crash sometimes – a lot more than on my HTC phone, though. But using browsers is a real pain, as they all feel kinda buggy, and I don't think it's their fault, since they all show the same "bugs". They're all kinda laggy. I've updated to ICS today and I was crying in emotion for being able to finally download Chrome, as it's the most stable one I've ever used in my phone, but I was disappointed when I noticed it too felt quite laggy. I'd rather go home and turn my Mac on than to struggle with web browsing on this tablet, honestly. I've tried many browsers –*stock, Dolphin, Boat, that other one with green icon, and also Skyfire or something.
If anyone has a better thing, or a solution, or anything, I bet there are many desperate people that would die to hear it.
(I know I sound more dramatic than I should, but let's face it, web browsing sucks in this device.)
I've never had any problem web browsing on my Tab. None. I'm not rooted, maybe that's why, or maybe it has to do with the sites you visit. Dunno.
On my tab with HC 3.2, the stock browser would also just disappear to the home screen, but not all that often.
I flashed to ICS, and the stock browser got a bit quirky. The address bar would no longer hide when I scrolled down
on a web page. Would stutter as if it was trying to hide but wouldn't.
Installed Dolphin and it worked fine.
I went back to HC 3.2 (had some other issues besides the browser) and so far the stock browser is working fine.
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On my tab with HC 3.2, the stock browser would also just disappear to the home screen, but not all that often.
I flashed to ICS, and the stock browser got a bit quirky. The address bar would no longer hide when I scrolled down
on a web page. Would stutter as if it was trying to hide but wouldn't.
Installed Dolphin and it worked fine.
I went back to HC 3.2 (had some other issues besides the browser) and so far the stock browser is working fine.
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Dolphin does the same thing though, just a lot less frequently. Motorola Xoom users in a thread from a year ago reported this same problem (in a filled up 14 page thread), and several of users report the same exact issue. I'm gonna poll some more Tegra 2 sections and see if they suffer from the same thing but it looks like this is just another issue with this ****ty SoC, like the portrait mode lag.
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I've used the stock browser, Dolphin, Chrome, and Skyfire and none of them have ever crashed on me. Ever. Sounds like there is either something defective about your device perhaps your internet connection. A factory reset might help, as might going into applications, finding the Google framework and clearing data. Do the same for your browsers as well.
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Not to sound rude but your opinion isn't really credible to me, you're the same one who went crazy when I said this tablet sucked. You have bias written all over you.
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I've never had any problem web browsing on my Tab. None. I'm not rooted, maybe that's why, or maybe it has to do with the sites you visit. Dunno.
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Come on dude, I'd have to be rooted to be running Jellybean. And as everyone else has shown, it does seem to vary by website. Full pages on twitter ALWAYS crash, (they work once in a blue moon). Other times browser crashes when browser feels like it hasn't crashed in a while. I could get through a day perfectly, then bam, crash.
I'm not a dude.
I've never had a problem with any of the browsers I've tried, I think maybe you have a faulty tablet.
I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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did you set the start homepage?
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did you set the start homepage?
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Yes Google.ca. The browser just shut down without a force close notice and opens blank. Plus it becomes non responsive, on pages that have a lot of javascript.
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nxdark said:
I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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That specifically happens the second time. On the first crash, I'd relaunch and it would reload my pages, but 99/100 times it would crash seconds afterward. Upon opening it again, i get one tab with the Google homepage.
nxdark said:
Yes Google.ca. The browser just shut down without a force close notice and opens blank. Plus it becomes non responsive, on pages that have a lot of javascript.
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Sounds like JavaScript is the culprit, but it still crashed for me even after I disabled JavaScript
I think it's all about memory management, I cant tell about HC 'cause I barely used it, but JB is still very experimental.
GazaIan said:
Not to sound rude but your opinion isn't really credible to me, you're the same one who went crazy when I said this tablet sucked. You have bias written all over you.
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I'm biased because I've never had any problems with my browser crashing? Whatever. I also never "went crazy" over anything. All you do is complain and complain. Why not just get an iPad and move on?
I have tried several browsers also, and for me I really only have problems with chrome freezing (not force closing). It seems to be random, but happens more frequently when opening new tabs. However, the stock browser on the same sites seems to work every time. My guess is that it may be due to timeouts on the network connection or possibly memory related. And, it seems to be random... I may go a day without a freeze, then have two back to back freezes. Oh tegra2, why don't you behave?
Hey guys,
It's been almost a week since I flashed the stock ICS and installed Chrome. So far so good, no complaints. I'm really relieved, as I was almost giving up. Give it a try
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Chrome is the way to go. The ability to create an account and sync all relevant browser data to your devices via the cloud - why hasn't anyone thought of this before? So obvious and useful.
I also strongly recommend trying out Boat Browser, which is highly underrated. Smoother and smarter layout than Dolphin and the best alternative to Chrome, IMO.
minor9 said:
Chrome is the way to go. The ability to create an account and sync all relevant browser data to your devices via the cloud - why hasn't anyone thought of this before? So obvious and useful.
I also strongly recommend trying out Boat Browser, which is highly underrated. Smoother and smarter layout than Dolphin and the best alternative to Chrome, IMO.
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Chrome acts really weird on JB. I'm still running pershoot's 8/4 build but I'll be updating and trying out Chrome again. Last time I tried it I would always get a white page while switching tabs, and scrolling was odd. Browser does a much better job but Chrome has too much nice functionality lol
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I have tried several browsers also, and for me I really only have problems with chrome freezing (not force closing). It seems to be random, but happens more frequently when opening new tabs. However, the stock browser on the same sites seems to work every time. My guess is that it may be due to timeouts on the network connection or possibly memory related. And, it seems to be random... I may go a day without a freeze, then have two back to back freezes. Oh tegra2, why don't you behave?
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I doubt it's memory relate, it happens a lot with 1 tab open, and with a full Gig of RAM, browsing should be painless when it comes to memory management, not to mention, but Android's memory management scheme is the most beautiful thing I've seen. Tabs and apps actually know how to stay open, and Android knows what to close. Works a lot better than any tablet I've used, even better than crapple's iPad.
I have been running CyanogenMod 10 Alpha 2 by dragonzkiller for a couple of days now and can say...my phone has never been better! As is expected there were some hiccups, but overall this thing rides smooth! What does everyone else think about it and what has been their experiences?
Here is what I've found so far
Not working:
Facebook
Dolphin Browser
SMS does not show text in field, and notifications do not show.
My workarounds:
Opera browser has so far worked flawlessly.
Friendcaster works fine in place of FB.
Combination of Handcent SMS and SMS popups as workaround to native SMS issue.
Weird things yet to be worked out or around:
File explorers (so far ES and File Expert) randomly will not delete or rename files.
And again, this ROM is great (thank you dragonzkiller!). Too bad providers didn't push for Jelly Bean on these models because I think it works the best so far. Older in the cycle, so I understand. I still have about of week of testing before I praise it any further, but so far I am mega happy. I can say this having tried various other ROMS throughout the year or so I've owned this phone, and of those I am coming from what I consider a rock stable ROM, Liberty3.
Introduction:
I have been using CM10 for a month and a half now. My review is based on the standard of an every day driver. I understand that Dragonzkiller is the only developer for this ROM and basically for DX2 (as far as I know) but I use my phone with the intention of USING it. With this in mind, I've been struggling with the idea of reverting back to the stock OS or some other rom because of some key issues I have with the current alpha release.
Pros:
Status Bar brightness control: Although you have to disable auto brightness, this is the biggest plus for me, mainly because auto brightness never seems to be good enough. Its always slighty too dim or too bright, even with custom brightness levels. The negative of this would be that if you have a passworded lock screen (swype lock screens don't affect this) the status bar is not click able so you can't increase brightness. This is a big issue if your screen is on the lowest brightness and you need to unlock your phone in the sun. This is mostly for taste. I find this feature highly convenient and puts control in my hands. Although automatic brightness works, it doesn't work well enough for me.
Toggle buttons in the notification pull down menu: This is insanely convenient. This coupled with the long pressing option to open the corresponding settings menu is also one of the biggest things keeping me with CM 10
Swypable notifications: You have no idea how convenient this is until you have it. To be able to pick and chose which notifications to dismiss with the swype of a finger.
Screen Shot and restart option in the power menu: I restart and screen shot enough that these options need to be in the power menu or somehow accessible
Everything else ICS and CM10 provides: I really dislike how Ginger Bread looks. It just doesn't have the nice clean feel. CM10 gets it right with the minimalistic look and design while adding features hidden where they should be hidden. Honestly, this is a HUGE plus. I really like the way CM10 looks and feels over almost every other ROM. I haven't found one that I've liked more than CM10.
Cons:
Most apps that use some form of a web view crash: A web view is a little window that renders webpages for you. Apps like Facebook use to use this and they crashed all the time. Exceptions include the stock web browser and most other web browsers. The reason for this crash is that there is a fatal Out Of Memory exception.
Google Now takes way longer to load: Yes, I already said that apps take a while to load but Google Now seems to take 5 seconds MINIMUM up to 10 seconds. I don't know why. I tried disabling the "Say Google to search" feature as well as the cards and that seems to have cut down on the load time but if Google Now is something you really want/need, this is a huge drawback.
Apps take a long time to load: Long is a subjective term so I'm defining it as between 1 second to just initialize to 3-5 seconds on a bad day. I am very sure this is because our phone has very little ram so the OS has to free some space for the new app and this is an intensive process that take that much time. At first, I pushed this off as some issue that doesn't really need attention but when you are trying to add a contact and it takes 5 seconds to load the Phone app, then another five seconds to load the People app, you're going to start being annoyed. Want to take a picture of your contact, add another 5 seconds to load the camera app.
The flashlight button in the notification pull down will crash: It will crash. You tap the button and it crashes. You long press and it crashes. Don't even bother. That's a big enough con for me to give it a mention and put it in the middle of my list. There have been a few times when I've needed a flashlight only to realize I need to actually open an app for it. I think the next best thing is to put the flashlight app in the swype to unlock menu.
Media Player stutters under load: Remember how I told you that app loading is an intensive process? Apparently, the thread priority for the media player process is lower than the app loading process. I say this based on the fact that as I play music from Pandora, if I press back, switch apps, or open a new app, the music from Pandora starts cutting and stuttering almost like a buffer, but not quite. I have not tried this with other music players but I have done it with another youtube player and I get the same problems. I haven't tried this with Google Music though so you may have some luck with that.
System Crashes: Rarely will my phone reboot on me for some strange reason. It has happened to me maybe 5 times in the last month and a half but it has happened. I don't really consider this a con just because it's so rare but it happens.
Google Maps Street View Crashes all the time: I believe this is related to the problem with Google Chrome. I remember reading that our kernel doesn't support certain drawing textures or drawing APIs so any app that tries to use those methods force close without warning.
Here are the apps I run and why:
Facebook Bookmark: I have a bookmark to facebook.com instead of using the facebook app mainly because the app USED to crash very frequently in the alpha one release (it used to use webviews instead of native code). I haven't noticed it crashing on me recently so I may switch back to using the stock Facebook App.
Go SMS: Simply because I like the look and feel of Go SMS better. It's really your choice on this one. I also like the popup notification when I receive messages that Go SMS provides over the one that the stock Messaging app provides.
K9-Mail: The stock E-Mail app crashed very frequently on me in the alpha one release. I could never figure this one out because it would crash even without the web views open. It may be fixed now but I've gotten used to K9-Mail
Stock Browser: Most other browsers clutter the screen (like Opera). I don't run firefox because I tried the beta release and it was very lacking. Google Chrome crashes all the time because of the kernel issue. I really enjoy using the stock browser with the "Quick Control" feature enabled under "Labs" in the stock Browser app. It cleans up the screen really well.
aCalendar: The widget is better. Plain and simple. I use day view for the widget. I use the widget on it's own home screen.
gTasks: Just something to use. I mostly use the widget on it's own home screen full sized
Conclusion:
Although I cannot recommend this ROM as an every day driver, I have to say that it does provide some serious features with some serious drawbacks. It is really up to you in my opinion because even I cannot decide whether it is a good or a bad ROM. The reason why I would flash a ROM is because I want to increase usability and to clean up my cluttered OS. However, minimalistic ROMs don't provide the features that CM10 provide. Those features definitely come in handy at times. Moreover, I like the CM10 lock screen way more but that's just taste. The reason why I haven't discarded CM10 already is because I can probably live with the longer load times for apps and the spontaneous crashes. The crashes are either rare enough to not bother me or predictable enough that I can avoid them.
My recommendation would be to try it out and see if you can live with it. If you can live with it, then you should definitely run it because it is by far the best app around. This is a good rom but not good enough for a solid recommendation. However, it is amazing it is still only on Alpha 2 considering how well it works for an alpha.
By the way, if you're coming form CM7/9, definitely jump to CM10. The decrease in force closes is worth the increase in app load time.
randomKID thanks for the awesome breakdown of the pros and cons you've found in this ROM. You still using it?
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It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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OxyX said:
It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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Gingerbread 4.3.3?
Well I do love CM10. I was getting some great battery life out of it. Wonder if everyone was/is that uses or used it? I had workarounds for just about every bug but one- the camcorder. I had to have a good working camcorder and the Videocam Illusion app was not reliable enough. Why so necessary? A 6 month old little girl that daddy loves to capture every day So I went to Eclipse but was not at all impressed with the battery usage (ROM was fine otherwise). I have now landed back on CM7 which I test drove some months ago. I will go back to CM10 provided there is an update that speaks to the camcorder issue. If not, I will hang out here for awhile most likely :silly:
You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
PnoT said:
You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
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I think I'll give that a try
I have serious battery issues running CM10. My battery NEVER lasts a full day on light/moderate use. When I was on CM7, I used to get a day and a half out of moderate use, so I'm a bit upset at that. I still prefer it to CM7 though, mostly because of the layout and the fact that my WiFi doesn't constantly lose connection. But the constantly-crashing apps and battery life have me ready to move on from the phone altogether. :/
Google Nexus 4, I'm on my way...