[Q] 3th party markets - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since I've uploaded my App to the market, I receive emails about uploading my App to other markets too. For example this email I've received yesterday:
Hi ,
My name is *...*, from business department of Ndoo Networks. We are a company that operates 3rd party Android app market in China. We both realize China is a market of great potential, and there are already over 6,000,000 Android users in China. Now we are searching for the co-developers to make the Android market in China more brilliant.
We devote to bringing convenience and giving better service to our users. Till now we are generating a total of 5,000,000 downloads per month. The strengths we have now include:
--Diversified access to Phone, Web and desktop.
--App downloads 50% faster than Android Market.
--Value-added services to developers, including function test, security check etc.
--Operating an active user community including solutions for common issues using Android apps.
Meanwhile, the opportunities we see for you are:
--Expose your apps to millions of Android users.
--Expose your apps to many device makers in China who badly need excellent apps to get preinstalled.
--Ad-supported apps to generate income.
--Application proxy.
If you are interested to opt in our platform to distribute your apps, reply this email to authorize us the distribution rights. By default it is non-exclusive authorization.
Look forward to hearing from you.
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Cheers,
*...*
Shanghai Ndoo Network Technology Ltd.
Your Android,Simplified!
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Are there issues (read: legal issues) when you upload your app to other markets and / or is it smart to do. Because I get the feeling, just a feeling, that not all of these markets have the right intentions with the App provided by unknowing developers.
Are you upload your app to other markets too. If so, what website/markets do you upload your app.
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Obviously all different countries will have different app stores and be impossible to keep track of all of them. However obviously the well known ones are Amazon Appstore and Android market (duh). Outside of the US there are too many to count small and big. However, you can do a couple searches on the internet and see for yourself if it doesnt look shady and trustable enough.
Personally as a Korean I know for a fact that T-Store in korea is huge with dominating market share and since Korea's smart phone market is pretty big you could try getting your app uploaded there. However, I'm not too sure about how it works for foreigners but if you are interested just PM and I'll do my best to help out. I really like your app and I think its a brilliant idea. Cheers.

I received a similar email and all I can tell is stay away from them.
They are not a legit market. All piracy.

tyl3rdurden said:
Obviously all different countries will have different app stores and be impossible to keep track of all of them. However obviously the well known ones are Amazon Appstore and Android market (duh). Outside of the US there are too many to count small and big. However, you can do a couple searches on the internet and see for yourself if it doesnt look shady and trustable enough.
Personally as a Korean I know for a fact that T-Store in korea is huge with dominating market share and since Korea's smart phone market is pretty big you could try getting your app uploaded there. However, I'm not too sure about how it works for foreigners but if you are interested just PM and I'll do my best to help out. I really like your app and I think its a brilliant idea. Cheers.
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Thanks for your reply and compliment for my App. I'm definitly gonna look into the T-Store you're talking about.

I got the same email too, and found this thread by Googling a sentence from this email
All of my Apps are there, free & paid ones, without my approval.
It seems like piracy in China is a common practice, and I'm not sure what can be done against it.

Obg1 said:
It seems like piracy in China is a common practice, and I'm not sure what can be done against it.
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Seems? Come on! Let's all be honest here, we all know China is the number 1 in piracy, copying, not giving a f*ck about copyrights and so on. Whether is about fake iPhones, fake stores, mod chips, fake 2TB HDDs, fake apps, copied apps, fake everything and copied everything, etc. The world itself is there, either fake or copied. And there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it, since they don't have the copyright laws we have. If I were you, I wouldn't trust in giving my app to neither a Chinese nor a Sweden store (Sweden stores are a tad more controlled than Chinese stores, but still )
In my country, we call China "el rey de los plagios" (the king of copying/fakes/etc).
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DanielEGVi said:
Seems? Come on! Let's all be honest here, we all know China is the number 1 in piracy, copying, not giving a f*ck about copyrights and so on. Whether is about fake iPhones, fake stores, mod chips, fake 2TB HDDs, fake apps, copied apps, fake everything and copied everything, etc. The world itself is there, either fake or copied. And there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it, since they don't have the copyright laws we have. If I were you, I wouldn't trust in giving my app to neither a Chinese nor a Sweden store (Sweden stores are a tad more controlled than Chinese stores, but still )
In my country, we call China "el rey de los plagios" (the king of copying/fakes/etc).
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In your signature you say you use a hacked market.
I guess you are Chinese too?

JXB said:
In your signature you say you use a hacked market.
I guess you are Chinese too?
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Hacked market means it can download apps no matter what DPI are you using
You actually made me lol.
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[Q] in-app purchases with different stores

We've created an app with in-app purchases, but wondering how does this work with other stores beyond the google market?
e.g. if the same code went to Amazon App Store, what happens when someone tries to do the in-app purchase?
My first thought is that it would mostly be a moot point -- I *think* Amazon wouldnt approve the app per their TOS. I havent read them too carefully but I assume they are similar to Apple and Google. Both of them have a clause in there related to not allowing apps in their market/stores that charge people outside of market/store. So first thing I would do before you code a lot is check the TOS.
If Amazon allows it, from a tech standpoint I would imagine things would generally function as intended as long as the package name is the same as the Android Market one.
However, a good way to test this would be to sideload your app on a test device, and try using the in-app purchase mechanism.
hth
It gets complicated quickly.
e.g. China has over 20 different Android markets, most devices do not come preloaded with the google Android Market plus credit cards are not as common as in the West. This adds another layer of complexity.
Technically speaking, that means a different implementation for each 'Android' store if the store has its own payment mechanisms and have a 'paywall' in the TOS?
yeah seems like it depends on the market and most likely that you will have to change the code.. apparently all the market people are working on one big like universal thing but until then... I wish you good luck. Seems like a serious PITA.
tyl3rdurden said:
yeah seems like it depends on the market and most likely that you will have to change the code.. apparently all the market people are working on one big like universal thing but until then... I wish you good luck. Seems like a serious PITA.
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What Market People/Universal thing? Would be curious to know.
@OP You need to pace yourself. Develop a strategy for handling payments separate from the app and hit the Markets one at a time.
I'd start with Amazon then SlideMe. Then see if you want to keep expanding to the other markets.
Also, Considering the lack of IP laws in China, I think that's the last stop on the train. It's hard to imagine raking in cash from a place that builds fake Apple Stores I could be wrong but that's the sense I get. Anyways if you stagger your approach you will be able to slowly develop a strategy for managing multiple stores.
hth
I'm only an intern right now so I really dont have that much information but apparently the worlds carriers (vague I know but I honestly just dont have the info) are working with WAC or on WAC to make a standard system or so. Sorry I can't be much more help.

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After I try the lite version of it, I bought the full version without thinking, it was just too great! If you are tired of Polaris and haven't bought another office, definitely go try it, you will love it!
Great product. And its free on Getjar market.
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Great product. And its free on Getjar market.
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This is the 1st I have heard of Getjar. Do you know how they can offer Paid Apps for Free? Is this site safe to use?
Thanks
it is a Lithuania based market that is not always the most honest in terms of making sure apps listed there are properly paid for. i dont know anything about the actual safety of the apps.
It's completely safe, all paid apps are uploaded by the devs themselves.
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It's completely safe, all paid apps are uploaded by the devs themselves.
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The devs post their paid app there for free download? That sounds nonsense to me
This app is neat. Even lets me sync dropbox. Pretty handy! I just need my dock and a mouse to go w/ it soon!
pandazzz319 said:
The devs post their paid app there for free download? That sounds nonsense to me
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Getjar is based on an advertisement model. App developers get paid by posting their paid apps on getjar, and other developers pay (i.e. sponsor) to gain advertisement space on every page.
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Q12) So what is the GetJar business model? Is it profitable?
The majority of revenues come from sponsored apps, where developers pay to have their applications prioritized in special section. The developer bids for downloads on GetJar. Depending on region, category and platform, bids vary from US $0.01 to $1 per download. GetJar also has fixed placement advertising, but this is a very small part of the business. And yes, GetJar is profitable.
Source: http://mobithinking.com/getjar
It's a shame Google didn't go with this business model.
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
currydude said:
Getjar is based on an advertisement model. App developers get paid by posting their paid apps on getjar, and other developers pay (i.e. sponsor) to gain advertisement space on every page.
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Q12) So what is the GetJar business model? Is it profitable?
The majority of revenues come from sponsored apps, where developers pay to have their applications prioritized in special section. The developer bids for downloads on GetJar. Depending on region, category and platform, bids vary from US $0.01 to $1 per download. GetJar also has fixed placement advertising, but this is a very small part of the business. And yes, GetJar is profitable.
Source: http://mobithinking.com/getjar
It's a shame Google didn't go with this business model.
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ic, thats a pretty good way to earn money
OstiasMoscas said:
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
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Office Suite Pro 5 has a toolbar like Word - with Bold, Italics, Underline, Left/Centre/Right alignment, numbering, bulleting, highlighting and font colour - and its accessible all the time. However, it doesn't have the Print Layout view like Smart Office and it doesn't display equations and numbers as well as Smart Office.
If I could take the features of all these office programs and combine them.... (I'd pay for someone to do that)
It works pretty well on Prime but sometimes it makes my tablet goes nuts and I have to reboot it. Do you have the same issue around that ?
With this one, if you are editing a .docx file will you be able to save it as a .docx?
OstiasMoscas said:
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
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That's the first thing I thought. It's like giving someone directions and saying "Turn left 1 mile before you get to the fork in the road".

Android Apps - Making money

Hey Guys, i'm a developer in his prime and i was wondering what do you think I should use to make money of my applications? Which solution or ... website? Can you please help?
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Hey Guys, i'm a developer in his prime and i was wondering what do you think I should use to make money of my applications? Which solution or ... website? Can you please help?
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Admob :good:
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TerryGidd said:
Hey Guys, i'm a developer in his prime and i was wondering what do you think I should use to make money of my applications? Which solution or ... website? Can you please help?
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TerryGidd said:
Hey Guys, i'm a developer in his prime and i was wondering what do you think I should use to make money of my applications? Which solution or ... website? Can you please help?
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Could you be more specific? I think most people use the Google Play market for app sales, although there are alternatives (such as Amazon). Are you asking whether you should charge for the app vice depending on ad revenue?
TerryGidd said:
Hey Guys, i'm a developer in his prime and i was wondering what do you think I should use to make money of my applications? Which solution or ... website? Can you please help?
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Three options:
Have an app that's good enough to make people pay to install it: Quite hard, especially on the Android platform where many users expect even high quality apps to be free.
Free app with advertisements. This usually only works well for apps which have a high user engagement, both session frequency and session length. If you have a utility app that runs in the background or gets used once in a blue moon, this model is not really suited for that, even if the app is super useful.
Free app with in-app purchases to unlock features and/or acquire consumable items. Especially games seem to be very successful with this approach.
leviteo.com :good:
leviteo said:
leviteo.com :good:
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I've been pretty happy using these guys.
mrp.adsyolo .com
more of an exchange instead of a single ad network that includes around 120 various networks acting as demand partners. (admob, inmobie, yadda yadda yadda). I'm currently getting about 1500 +/- a month with these guys, not enough to leave the day job but it covers my beer expenses.
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I'm using multiple networks... been testing the new network tapcontext because of their high payouts. Averaging $6 CPM's. Really depends on your apps though.
aiaran said:
I'm using multiple networks... been testing the new network tapcontext because of their high payouts. Averaging $6 CPM's. Really depends on your apps though.
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whoa, $6? could you provide some details? what kind of app did you do that is making you that kind of cpm? what kind of ad placement did you use?
LanceMarble said:
whoa, $6? could you provide some details? what kind of app did you do that is making you that kind of cpm? what kind of ad placement did you use?
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I obviously don't want to give too much away in regards to the exact apps as I wouldn't need the competition , but they are travel related. I am getting the $6+ CPM off tapcontext, using both their interstitial & notification ads.
This list below in general is a pretty good summary of some of the best ways to monetize your application.
With this in mind, the latter in the list (unlockable content) is something that we will be experiencing far more of in the future in my opinion...
smartician said:
Three options:
Have an app that's good enough to make people pay to install it: Quite hard, especially on the Android platform where many users expect even high quality apps to be free.
Free app with advertisements. This usually only works well for apps which have a high user engagement, both session frequency and session length. If you have a utility app that runs in the background or gets used once in a blue moon, this model is not really suited for that, even if the app is super useful.
Free app with in-app purchases to unlock features and/or acquire consumable items. Especially games seem to be very successful with this approach.
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It is kinda sad that its getting harder and harder to make money off the purchase of the app itself anymore. Even if you give out the free version, I've seen that very few people upgrade to the full version. There are just too many free games out there. Users end up spending more money within their favorite free apps instead of trying out many different apps.
I'm in the middle of an ad campaign for my new app and its getting a great # of installs (more than other apps). Reviews are good and emails/comments on social media about the game are positive, and yet so few people upgrade to the full version!
In my opinion never use the notification kind of adds, its very annoying wich makes people uninstall your app, unlockable content would be the best move i think. Again, its my opinion.
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Different ads are good for the beginning.
I use Admob and for now it's good for me.
I can't live with this money but little is better than nothing.
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It often happens that you accidentally end up deleting all the pictures stored on the memory card of your smartphones. It sucks, especially if you have not stored a backup of the images elsewhere (usually on an external hard drive or laptop).
Sure, you may try to place the in-app ads. Clickky's monetization platform will help you to place ads relevant to your users (the programmatic approach identifies your user and his interests and shows him the appropriate ads). It works by eCPM. One of the publishers received traffic from 11 geo locations in various regions. eCPM rates peaked at $61.5 in Russia, followed by $30.28 in Switzerland, $14.13 in New Zealand, and $9.45 in France. Overall, eCPM haven’t fallen below $0.65. He had a mobile web-site, not an app, but it doesn't matter.
The eCPM you get depends on users. Let's suppose that the app advertiser has some profile of users who will most likely install his app, use it and make in-app purchases. He is ready to pay money to attract these certain users, showing them the ads. When these certain users use your app, the system (RTB-based) connect you (publisher) and app owner (advertiser). That's why the eCPM is very high. Imagine, how much you are ready to pay as an advertiser for the particular user who will bring you at least $200/mo via in-app purchases. Yes, that's why some publishers may earn up to $150
Agree with @aiaran that you should use multiple networks as they give you different fill rates in different GEOs. Unfortunately there is no best-ever solution on the market. E.g., now Clickky's monetization platfrom is now very good on Tier 1 countries, and maybe some other platform will monetize your traffic from Australia or Russia much better. In a month the situation may change, so you have to combine different platform and monetize yur traffic to the fullest.
I work for AppLixir which specializes in reward videos for games and we would love to help you with any apps or games you have. You really don't need to prepare anything other than having a great game! Revenue generation on our platform can be implemented in less than an hour (15 minutes for many).
It's free to signup too.
Try looking into Kin, a cryptocurrency that is working to change the monetization game completely. No more annoying ads or in app purchase. kinecosystem.org
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ZTE banned from .gov

ZTE announced as being banned from use by US officials.
Very interesting, I haven't seen concrete evidence posted.
1) any record of "phone home" packet being sent via stock firmware(like BLU)?
2) is there a hardware embedded or software or both tech concern?
3) would lineageOS devices be susceptible to this?
What steps has anyone takeno ameliorate concerns?
cyrusharding said:
ZTE announced as being banned from use by US officials.
Very interesting, I haven't seen concrete evidence posted.
1) any record of "phone home" packet being sent via stock firmware(like BLU)?
2) is there a hardware embedded or software or both tech concern?
3) would lineageOS devices be susceptible to this?
What steps has anyone takeno ameliorate concerns?
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Why do you suspect it's because of a security concern? The US govt wanted to ban Huawei on selling phones via carrier on the US, they failed, so now they are banning ZTE and Huawei phones on the govt. They just don't want them selling on the US.
Anyways yes we found out about one app that sent location info to some place in China. That was before they changed to Qualcomm IZat. Before that, when you were setting up your phone, they asked you if you wanted to use that app to improve gps performance, so you actually were asked if you wanted to use it anyways. Aside that I think there was nothing else.
There are some data logging apps on the Play store anyways, so you could see which apps are sending data
When I first had stock I found that the lockscreen wallpaper thingy would query a server in China with your phone's IMEI in the URL string. At one point I also found where they would find their wallpapers on the web. Like, they just skimmed them from "best photos of 2012" sorts of articles.
Anyways, I think I used things like NetGuard and Wireshark to capture packets and see what they looked like to glean that information on what was being sent to random servers when clicking around on some features on the stock ROM.
Aside from that, this stuff with ZTE, Huawei and the U.S. gov't has been going on since like 2009 or so. They've never released proof every time it comes up. They have this speculative fear that someday Huawei could embed snooping software in networking hardware (routers and stuff) but there's never been any proof. For ZTE, they didn't like that ZTE made business deals with Iran a few years ago.
The summer before this phone was released, Congress lifted sanctions on ZTE to allow them to trade in the U.S. ZTE consequently opened up their books and let our gov't sift through their business dealings and find intelligence on North Korea's business dealings, amongst other things I'm sure.
The impression I got is the U.S. gov't works on gathering intelligence and uses pressure against industries in other countries to get what they want through threatening a foreign government by going through their businesses.
Bottom line: I have no idea if they do shady stuff because no one has given any proof.
I can cite sources but that's the gist of my thoughts on the subject.
I just think this means government officials can't use phones from Huawei or ZTE
But that makes sense, I remember in stock rom I took photos with location on, and those photos had a location of a factory/office in Shanghai, China which made me very suspicious
It isn't just phones. Huawei produces business-class and telco-class networking equipment. That's why they get more of the coverage and speculative concern.
This 60 Minutes episode was kinda my introduction to the story a few years ago.
And then right around the time I bought this phone the U.S. lifted sanctions against ZTE
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to...sanction-relief-to-chinas-zte-corp-1458511694
Here's an article on ZTE giving up financials to us on North Korea
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-target-north-korea-violators-with-zte-s-help
Granted, ZTE has also done a few things the U.S. didn't like in regards to trade with Iran and North Korea and Huawei (I gathered) would reverse engineer Cisco equipment to steal their intellectual property.
At this point it sounds indirectly harmless for you and me.
Teet1 said:
I just think this means government officials can't use phones from Huawei or ZTE
But that makes sense, I remember in stock rom I took photos with location on, and those photos had a location of a factory/office in Shanghai, China which made me very suspicious
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That was the previous location accelerator weird thingamajig i think
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That was the previous location accelerator weird thingamajig i think
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It didn't do much of that location acceleration if my pictures and Google maps all pointed to china
I am glad I wasn't the only one to perceive corporate agendas ''vs an actual threat. ZTE has been amazing. The only time I have seen dev and device support like theirs was with Moto in their first google year. ZTE was the only one doing something good for me in 2016 devices. I was pissed to read all of the stories against ZTE. Mostly because it is obviously click bait. _typed from my freshly received Axon 7 $79 refurb Hands down the industry's best warranty.
This whole spying thing is always silly. IMO the US would have to be the number one suspect for a spying nation. Things like Google commercialised spying. We might be served adds using our data but what else is being done with it?
My thought is that if the US points the finger, maybe it's because they do it already themselves and are paranoid about others doing as they do.....
ZTE has been caught using spyware and the Axon 7 does have suspicious software on it. The odd thing is that Google is collects enormous amounts of personal data and nobody seems to mind. It even leaks that data back out in the form of ad selections, search result rankings, and Google Maps detail rankings.
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ZTE has been caught using spyware and the Axon 7 does have suspicious software on it. The odd thing is that Google is collects enormous amounts of personal data and nobody seems to mind. It even leaks that data back out in the form of ad selections, search result rankings, and Google Maps detail rankings.
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Can you tell us where you read the first statement? The worst thing we've seen here is a gps accelerator app sending stuff to somewhere in China, but that's not necessarily spyware since they might just be sending location data

huawei Google license problems

Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
jizang said:
Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
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It means Huawei might be suspended from official support from development, tech support and collaboration from Google/Android work group directly. AOSP is still can be accessible to Huawei as an alternative, however, there's no set mandate regarding how frequently AOSP might be updated to Q. Any future updates can be much later than official source comparing with other factory names. It is likely but no set agenda.
It is very disappointing how US government uses all its possible resourcing pipeline in one nation trying to make an original 'open-sourced' platform now becoming a 'close-ended' product to kill a tech company. Very shameful action.
Boo hoo, Google and USA government. Can't take the capitalistic pressure no more I see. The very same capitalism that you pushed down their throats those years ago. Sore losers.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/amp/
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/amp/
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Yeah the apps will work, but looks like we still won't get updates.....
Limeybastard said:
Boo hoo, Google and USA government. Can't take the capitalistic pressure no more I see. The very same capitalism that you pushed down their throats those years ago. Sore losers.
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But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
Guys there is already 3 threads speaking about it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7048323/Google-blocks-Huawei-using-apps-phones.html
seti007 said:
But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
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government influence???:good::good:???they keep saying chinese govt has influence, yet without prove....!!now which companies being influence/ties by govt??? us companies following trump orders??? and this is not influence??? so confuse here???
Funny...
Shipoftheline said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7048323/Google-blocks-Huawei-using-apps-phones.html
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Phew, now that I've seen it in the mail, I know it's not true - false alarm people
jizang said:
Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
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Hey
You heard correct that Google has blacklisted and terminated all business with Huawei.
For the current Huawei devices that are in stock or being used Google will provide there services but for the future Huawei phones there will be no Google. Currently Huawei has got its licence temporary unbanned for 90 days which means they will provide Google updates till August and after that you won't be able to get the next version of android through Huawei until you root your phone and push the update yourself.
Hope this helped
djingonthenet said:
Phew, now that I've seen it in the mail, I know it's not true - false alarm people
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Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
Shipoftheline said:
Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
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This is better...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9128354/huawei-binned-from-ee-5g-lineup/
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seti007 said:
But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
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But it doesn't affect outside users if china bans fb, or does it?
Hopefully this means Huawei will start giving out Bootloader codes again.
Shipoftheline said:
Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
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I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but the mail champions the same brand of politics as the administration the invoked this ridiculous campaign against Huawei, i.e. the far right
djingonthenet said:
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself
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Oh my bad I must have read it wrong, oh wait no
djingonthenet said:
false alarm people
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djingonthenet said:
but the mail champions the same brand of politics as the administration the invoked this ridiculous campaign against Huawei, i.e. the far right
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Its the worlds most read online newspaper whether people like you like it or not and they were spot on again about this, do you need some tissues?
Better 'far-right' than far-wrong
Huawei in talks with Aptoide for a Play store replacement.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_rep...lacement_for_google_play_store-news-37174.php
Shipoftheline said:
Its the worlds most read online newspaper whether people like you like it or not and they were spot on again about this, do you need some tissues?
Better 'far-right' than far-wrong
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I do hope you can see the irony of that statement :laugh: Either way take care :good:

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