I have wiped and flashed Gingerbread quite a few times. HKTW, then kennethpenn's Beta 4, then Beta 4 with faux123's custom kernel.
Something happened between the flashing and backup/restore through Titanium Backup. Google Music (from the market) runs painfully laggy when it is running in the foreground. What's weird is that I see the FC message pop up for it randomly every 5 minutes, even when I haven't run it yet. (I'm guessing an event is triggering its start)
Anyways. I did disable some things from triggering using Autostarts. Maybe I should set them back.
Anyways, what's even more weird is that once I uninstall Music, another FC, even more annoying, for some Google app framework pops up. (I forget, too lazy) This FC shows up with almost any app at anytime. And, I can neither install nor uninstall apps using the market (the market actual FCs upon trying to do so). Thank God I had a backup of Google Music, but I had to return to its FC problem.
I am probably going to reflash and be careful what I restore, but I'm just wondering...what happened? I'm into IT and development, so I can take what you throw at me.
I'm just not developing for Linux, including Android, yet. I'm mainly into scripting languages right now, but I can learn others fairly easily. Why am I talking about this? xD
Anyways, just a bit curious if anybody knows. I don't exactly know most of the processes that run in the background on Android.
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Dear Friends!
Glad to be here today (after 2 days! )
My dear Streaker is here!!
As the norm is, I have been busy tinkering with the stock material for couple o days, and I will continue to do so for some more time!
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Query: There are too many apps running (background) all the time!! I kill them, they resurrect!, How to do away with that?
Solution applied: Used Advanced task killer (but, apps resurrect!)
Another Solution tried: In Settings>Account & Sync settings> Unchecked Background data and Auto sync options. (Now, they dont connect to the net, but, they still restart!!)
Another Solution: Force close (from Manage apps) .. (Still same issue!)
Now, How can I tell the apps to come up only when I call them!?
(And some other apps I want to schedule them to come up every hour or so.. like my Gmail/FB)
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And, So far has been amazing experience!!
The screen is football field sized!! (Monster! yikes Scooby!)
Digging up all old posts to read some problems faced by new users..
Current hobby: Market and apps.
Future hobby: Roms and Flash!
Thank you all for your help!
care,
Sony.
Welcome to the cool kids club! I'm in a somewhat similar situation, I got my streak just before the massive snowstorm hit. Some of those apps need to be running... if you close some of them you may not get updates/notifications, or you can shut down your phone/data connection, or lose the use of multitouch.
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from what i understand, froyo is really good with resource management and there is no need to constantly kill processes or apps, its best to just leave them unless your streak is slow like a snail
Telal said:
Welcome to the cool kids club! I'm in a somewhat similar situation, I got my streak just before the massive snowstorm hit. Some of those apps need to be running... if you close some of them you may not get updates/notifications, or you can shut down your phone/data connection, or lose the use of multitouch.
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Lose multi touch!
How?
@rptw
So, It wouldnt really matter if there are apps running in the BG, and they start by themselves too!?
care,
Sony.
well in terms of the laws of nature (in most cases) stuff doesnt happen spontaneously so i think its safe to assume that your app that "started by themselves" were probably opened somehow either by you directly or indirectly by something else. if, however, you have a large number of apps that have started that you dont recall opening, maybe something is wrong with your software and you shouldnt try to cover the problem with a task killer.
So, what next!?
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well in terms of the laws of nature (in most cases) stuff doesnt happen spontaneously so i think its safe to assume that your app that "started by themselves" were probably opened somehow either by you directly or indirectly by something else. if, however, you have a large number of apps that have started that you dont recall opening, maybe something is wrong with your software and you shouldnt try to cover the problem with a task killer.
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So, Now, can you or other guys here please suggest how to go to the "root" of this problem!?
Ok.
Look, these apps are open right now!
Voice Search
Email
Messaging
Maps
Astro
Assistant free
I use the Adv Task Killer free.
(It says 7 apps killed and 180 MB free)
I open Adv task killer after 5 seconds.
and these apps are running!
Email
astro
Voice Search
Assistant Free
and I am sure, If I wait for some more time, the other apps will join in too!
(Now it says, 3 Apps killed, 171 MB free!!)
care,
Sony.
have you tried using the stock app manager and killing the apps there? i just checked my phone and i have the same apps under the running tab using the stock manager, i think email and messaging are always running since you have push features on them, in terms of the others im not sure. whats so bad about email and messaging running anyways? im sure you use them often enough to not want to have to open and close them right?
Hey, you posted the same question over at Pocketables forum.
As stated earlier, 2.2 is really good at managing back ground tasks.
I can tell you if you use a task killer and you have a problem with an APP, which currently you do not, the programmer for the app probably will not help you till you remove the APP killer program.
What you might try to do is run though your menus and see what you have selected to run, such as locations and sync services and disable what you can. Also if you do not want some thing running, you may want to just uninstall it. I do understand that you want some programs but you only want them to run when you ask, not sure how to tell you to handle that.
But, are you seeing any difference when you have the background tasks disabled. Try to find the APK for the programs and rename them just to see if you have any issues.
So i use dolphin HD as my main browser, and whenever it updates i have to set as default all over again.
Id rather just remove the stock browser, as i never use it anyway, but will this end up giving me problems?
In addition, there are other apps that i dont need, and would also like to remove, such as:
email - i use gmail, so i dont need it
car home
music – I use google music – so no need for the stock music app
news and weather – don’t use – don’t want it to update in the background
homescreen tips
setup wizard
tts service
google talk
cmstats
sound recorder
fota kill??
Fm radio
There are usually more – but im running CM – so less crap
i like the minimum installed, and if i can lose some of these i will. Im also worried some are affecting battery life.
Freeze them first, then use it normally for a couple of days, if nothing weird happens, then remove them.
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Freeze them first, then use it normally for a couple of days, if nothing weird happens, then remove them.
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sounds good. Will try it.
But from experience, has anyone had any problems uninstalling the apps i listed? especially the ones in bold.
I have had my stock browser removed for a while and have not run into any issues. I also use Dolphin as my main browser
I've removed about 80% of your list in the OP with no issues.
Shouldn't have any problem. The suggestion to freeze it first is a good idea. When you decide to remove an app, just move the apk from system/app to somewhere on your sd. Makes it a lot easier to put it back, should you decide to.
I tried to search but its hard to come up with anything specific to my question.
I have had the prime for about a week and a half. Just upgraded to JB but noticed this in both JB and ICS.
When I look at the built in task manager widget I see random apps loaded. For instance Titanium backup will show up when I never launched it. Then later Google search partner (or something like that) and the music app, google play etc.. etc...
This all happens if its been on and I did the "One touch clean" showing zero apps or after a fresh reboot. I assume this is the bloatware everyone is not happy about? Is there a way to get rid of these random launches? Is it auto updates or what?
hx4700 Killer said:
I tried to search but its hard to come up with anything specific to my question.
I have had the prime for about a week and a half. Just upgraded to JB but noticed this in both JB and ICS.
When I look at the built in task manager widget I see random apps loaded. For instance Titanium backup will show up when I never launched it. Then later Google search partner (or something like that) and the music app, google play etc.. etc...
This all happens if its been on and I did the "One touch clean" showing zero apps or after a fresh reboot. I assume this is the bloatware everyone is not happy about? Is there a way to get rid of these random launches? Is it auto updates or what?
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Apps can launch themselves if they have the permissions depending on a trigger (like system startup, widgets updating etc.) This is so they can autoupdate etc. (Like fetching the news at a certain time and updating your email)
I use an app called autostarts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lbHNkb2VyZmVyLmFuZHJvaWQuYXV0b3N0YXJ0cyJd to disable whatever I don't want launching on its own.
I'm not sure if there is an equivalent free version.
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Apps can launch themselves if they have the permissions depending on a trigger (like system startup, widgets updating etc.) This is so they can autoupdate etc. (Like fetching the news at a certain time and updating your email)
I use an app called autostarts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lbHNkb2VyZmVyLmFuZHJvaWQuYXV0b3N0YXJ0cyJd to disable whatever I don't want launching on its own.
I'm not sure if there is an equivalent free version.
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Excellant! Thanks.
I have not explored this and am wondering if I did this, would I notice any performance increase? My tablet isn't sluggish by any means despite Sense being what it is.
Is this something worth looking into? And more importantly, if it is, what exactly is worth freezing on the Jetstream? OR how do I go about just deleting these apps without crashing my device? I usually rely on ROMs from Devs to do these things, but being rooted, we have the ability to delete and freeze the Apps, yea?
Apps I have in mind for freezing/deleting are:
Gameloft, ATT branded bloatware, HTC Likes, HTC Hub, Featured Apps, Kid Mode, Lets Golf, Need for Speed, HTC Watch (is a hog, for some reason), Snapbooth, Teeter, YPMobile, and zinio.
Thanks guys. Hopefully this helps others as well.
i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
interesting. I don't use g+. I will just uninstall it.
How about freezing or removing sys apps?
i froze them using titanium. no issues caused so far..
about system apps - i'm running diablo v1.2 so alot was removed already..and according to the widget non of them pop up..
guru_shastri said:
i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
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I noticed something similar. I use an app called Rom Toolbox. It displays all the processes that start up with system boot. Many such as facebook, google + and a host of other things, I do not use regularly. So i just disabled the auto-start of those services using ROM Toolbox and it doesn't autorun now. Don't know how effective it is, but when I do check the running apps section under manage applications in settings, I do not see the unnecessary apps running and the memory freed up is more as compared to prior disabling. However I haven't noticed much of a difference in my daily usage of the rom hence don't know how effective it is.
I also use Quick System Information Pro. It has a task clearer widget which I find extremely useful and effective. Whenever I feel that my tab is working a bit slow, I just press on the widget icon and it clears up in the range of 200-300 MB of ram thereby preventing slow down of the tab. It does work with non-Sense launchers as well such as Go Launcher HD.
Using Titanium I uninstalled a lot of the bloatware and froze Sense. Cleared the cache and dalvik using CMW, and things have been working fine up to now. Performance-wise, no lagging and everything seems to run fine. Only kept Google's stock apps like maps and stuff, even though I don't use them.
Also note that I backed up everything I uninstalled just in case, so everything's dandy. Oh, and I reverted back to the stock kernel a while back (still rooted, though).
Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
guru_shastri said:
i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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I Froze all the AT&T/HTC Bloatware, however I continue to have FREEZING problems with the YouTube (even after uninstalling the Upgrade).
My work around is to use the YouTube on the stock Browser.
Hope a Permanent FIX for the YouTube app comes sooner than later
Hello, I'm new on the forum here. Hopefully the super smart people here can help me out.. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to troubleshooting my phone problems, but thankfully I haven't had many of them to begin with. To the problem!
Recently (as in the last week or less) I have been getting notices from Clean Master that my app MyFitnessPal is using up too much memory. What is happening is that when I use this app and I exit it (by using the back/return button), it isn't closing like it used to. I am realizing this isn't the only app that is performing strangely. Chrome and Apps Organizer are also staying open and using up RAM. I've not had these issues before, so I'm not sure if an app I have got updated and is causing problems.. or if it's user error on my end. I did a scan with Trust Go and the results were that everything was fine. That was all I honestly knew to do to try and fix the problem, other than use Google to try and find fixes for the problem.. to which I have found none. All I find are instructions of how to open the Task Manager and force stop the applications, which I already knew how to do. I really hope I don't have to resort to checking the Task Manager every time I open an app now to make sure it closed.. what a bummer.
I'm running Android 4.3 on my Samsung SIII SGH-T99L. My device is not rooted.