Do I return if I received a GT that is locked? Is it worth the trouble? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just got my GT from Staples last night and its not unlocked. From what I have read it is completely random if you get one that is locked or not.
So is it worth it to return for another when there is a good chance that one will be locked as well?
Since the locked one can be rooted is this even necessary?
Thanks all

Raistlin1 said:
Just got my GT from Staples last night and its not unlocked. From what I have read it is completely random if you get one that is locked or not.
So is it worth it to return for another when there is a good chance that one will be locked as well?
Since the locked one can be rooted is this even necessary?
Thanks all
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You can root, flash kernels and roms with a locked tab. I personally dont think it would be worth the hassle. My tab is unlocked but i wouldnt have cared either way honestly.

You don't need an unlocked one. It really makes no difference at all. I have a locked 32 gig t I've done just about everything with. Flashed roms, kernels, rooted just fine with no issues at all.

Totally not worth it (yet?) as you can do everything on both versions. But check to see if there is any other defect.

I also have a locked one and used it to try a few kernels / roms now. everything worked fine.
Just install CWM. Don't return it.

IMO, locked puts you at much greater risk of winding up in a bricked state that you can't recover from.

uhhh staples, my tablet has a problem
Sorry about that what is the problem?
The bootloader is locked.
What?
I cant hack it well.
What?
I want a replacement.
Uhhhh, sir, what is the problem?
The bootloader is locked.
And what does that mean?
I want to hack it, but if its unlocked, its slightly harder for hacking. Just a bit.
Im sorry, but we cant replace it if nothings wrong with it.

atticusmas said:
uhhh staples, my tablet has a problem
Sorry about that what is the problem?
The bootloader is locked.
What?
I cant hack it well.
What?
I want a replacement.
Uhhhh, sir, what is the problem?
The bootloader is locked.
And what does that mean?
I want to hack it, but if its unlocked, its slightly harder for hacking. Just a bit.
Im sorry, but we cant replace it if nothings wrong with it.
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Wow, you typed that entire imaginary conversation without even knowing that BestBuy will accept a return or exchange for any reason or for no reason at all. If you want to return a Tab because the bootloader is locked, that's perfectly within your rights under their policy.

Thanks everyone, I probably would just say that the battery is draining quickly or that screen randomly turns off, just like many people have reported about this tablet.
But going through all of that and then ending up with one that is also locked would suck, then due to karma, I may get one that has one of the problems I claimed my original one had...

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[Q] few quick questions on atrix

Hey guys... been checking around.. have a few quick questions. Just to give you an idea.. I've rooted and flashed my own Captivate, now my brother is looking for a new phone so we may get him an atrix.
1. How common is it to hardbrick the atrix? I know that on the captivate a hardbrick is an extremely rare happening, and you can almost always go back to stock via odin.
2. Is CM7 officially available? if so are the nightly releases fairly stable?
3. I know that flashing voids the warranty, and I wouldn't try to redeem a phone I ruined by overclocking or anything like that.. However, I prefer to have a way to completely remove anything I did to the phone. Is this possible?
1. Not very. Unless you try to downgrade from 4.5.91
2. I'm using cm7 now. No nightlies but 0 issues! VERY stable!
3. If you unlock bootloader its unlocked. No going back.
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Like joe said a hard brick is not very common, unless you don't follow directions. Cm7 is currently in beta for the atrix, but it is very very stable. No web top or finger scanner try though. Once you unlock the phone, during startup wroth the red M in thee upper left it will say unlocked. So nope, no way to undo it all.
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I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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Thanks guys, I know that on the Captivate if you go back to odin it returns it to stock.
I am hesitant to root something that can't be reverted.. not a good situation if something goes out.
I don't think he is too worried about the finger print scanner or webtop.
My friend wanted his Atrix rooted i took it home and did it under a hour, I had no experience with command prompts at the time
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There's an easy to follow guide if you only want root, not unlocked bootloader. Other than removing bloat its mildly pointless though
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krad54 said:
I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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I was under the impression that unlocking the bootloader cannot be undone, which is why the hardbrick occurs when flashing back to an earlier version after the GB OTA update.
I believe flashing a fruit cake should give you the stock Motorola bootlogo (no "Unlocked" at the top) image, but the bootloader will still be unlocked.
The biggest issue here is honestly this.
I don't want to get a phone with some sort of manufacturer defect, then not be able to claim the warranty because the phone was at some point in its life flashed. (Sometimes it takes a while for the defects to actually pop up..)
I don't believe in overclocking or anything like that.
If I softbrick a phone I can usually fix it on my own.
I just don't want say, the speaker to go out and it have nothing to do with what rom he is running..
And then for my brother to be out of a phone, just because the speaker went out.. despite it having nothing to do with the fact it was flashed..
As to the bootloader, yes you can flash earlier versions and the "unlocked" at the boot screen will disappear, however there will remain evidence that you had unlocked the bootloader before if they investigate it
That being said there's been quite a few people who have been able to get warrenty replacements and repairs sending back their phones after flashing back..I haven't heard of anyone who's phone has been investigated that deeply and rejected
That works.
I mean, I don't have any intention of overclocking or pushing the hardware out of spec or anything.
I figure as long as whatever goes wrong is reasonable and not related to doing something stupid with the device we will probably be ok.
You don't need to overclock that phone at all ... rooting it's simple as I posted before. There some bootloader blocking you from loading roms, can be taken off.
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While completely bricking the Atrix is hard to do, it's still possible if you don't carefully read all the instructions. I do miss the Captivate though, it's incredibly easy to flash and recover from any mistake. The CM7 beta build is very stable, I have been using it since the last update was release on the 13th of September and haven't experienced any big problems. If your brother is looking at the Atrix for the webtop or fingerprint scanning capabilities though, just know that the current CM7 build do not yet support them.
From what I've read so far, I haven't seen anyone trying to use their warranty have a problem with the unlocked bootloader. If you're going to buy it through AT&T, I'm pretty sure they're oblivious to it anyway. Last time I exchanged my phone at the repair center, they didn't even bother to see if it booted. They just took it and handed me another one on the spot.

Questions about rooting and unlocking

New and happy Note 2 user. I've always unlocked and rooted all my devices, but I need to know how rooting the Verizon version with Casual is coming.
With the Gnex I could root, unlock and unroot and lock the bootloader at any time and it was awesome. But with my transformer infinity once unlocked you can never relock the bootloader.
I am decently pleased with the stock performance and I've been able to theme to an acceptable degree on stock. I have become fond of a few bloatware apps for the s pen and dont wish to give them up. There is one app I need that I must root to use however. Problem is that once I unlock and root I know there will be some DRM issues with hulu, netflix, gplay and such that I use almost daily while traveling (90% of my job) that I would prefer not to have to hack around like I have in the past.
Also expect to need an insurance claim eventually.
So, basically I want to know if I can use casual and get try it out and return to 100% stock with locked bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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JAWyered said:
New and happy Note 2 user. I've always unlocked and rooted all my devices, but I need to know how rooting the Verizon version with Casual is coming.
With the Gnex I could root, unlock and unroot and lock the bootloader at any time and it was awesome. But with my transformer infinity once unlocked you can never relock the bootloader.
I am decently pleased with the stock performance and I've been able to theme to an acceptable degree on stock. I have become fond of a few bloatware apps for the s pen and dont wish to give them up. There is one app I need that I must root to use however. Problem is that once I unlock and root I know there will be some DRM issues with hulu, netflix, gplay and such that I use almost daily while traveling (90% of my job) that I would prefer not to have to hack around like I have in the past.
Also expect to need an insurance claim eventually.
So, basically I want to know if I can use casual and get try it out and return to 100% stock with locked bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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You sure can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
More specifically, see section 1b.
As far as I know, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you once you are unlocked, you can load the original stock image w/ locked bootloader through Odin.
I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I've never seen any evidence that Verizon actually checks the phone when you return it. I had to return a Rezound that was S-OFF once because the USB port went bad and I never heard a peep about it from them. I've heard of others returning with CM installed and never having any issue. I'm not saying they 100% never check, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of it.
Also, I can't speak to Hulu or GPlay (don't use them), but I watch Netflix on mine all the time and have never had any issues with it.
You can Odin stock locked. I had to do it once already.
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shrike1978 said:
As far as I know, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you once you are unlocked, you can load the original stock image w/ locked bootloader through Odin.
I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I've never seen any evidence that Verizon actually checks the phone when you return it. I had to return a Rezound that was S-OFF once because the USB port went bad and I never heard a peep about it from them. I've heard of others returning with CM installed and never having any issue. I'm not saying they 100% never check, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of it.
Also, I can't speak to Hulu or GPlay (don't use them), but I watch Netflix on mine all the time and have never had any issues with it.
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I know I could most likely get by on the insurance front, but I prefer not to risk it. Verizon is out to get me and my unlimited data plan right now, and I have to be extra careful not to have any red flag at all. I've been fighting to keep it. Just found out yesterday they won't allow me to add hotspot capability to my plan without taking away my unlimited data. (I added hotspot about a year ago no problem, but removed it because I wasn't using it while traveling abroad for a few months work.)
Hulu and GPlay are the ones that really check for unlocked bootloaders, Netflix I've only heard of having issues recently.
Nate14 said:
You sure can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
More specifically, see section 1b.
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I notice this part in the topic you refer to
Also, folks currently on the latest L4 OTA ONLY use the alternate restore file as it does not contain a bootloader!
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So does this mean if you are on VRALL4 with an unlocked bootloader, that you can't relock it by flashing. I thought in order to return to a factory locked bootloader you needed to use an image which inlcluded the factory bootloader.
jellyhead said:
I notice this part in the topic you refer to
So does this mean if you are on VRALL4 with an unlocked bootloader, that you can't relock it by flashing. I thought in order to return to a factory locked bootloader you needed to use an image which inlcluded the factory bootloader.
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That means if your on LL4 with a locked bootloader still use the alternate restore or you want to keep yours unlocked. To relock it you're right use a full stock image
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JAWyered said:
Just found out yesterday they won't allow me to add hotspot capability to my plan without taking away my unlimited data. (I added hotspot about a year ago no problem, but removed it because I wasn't using it while traveling abroad for a few months work.)
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You know you can have a wifi hotspot without using Verizon's app, right?
This works for me and I'm still stock and not rooted...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027734

[Q] Still no one could unlock the bootloader of Photon 4g 2.3.5 OTA?

Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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whizinc said:
Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
ultimo123 said:
i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
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yeah i think the Skilled XDA guys just gave up on this phone and its a shame that these skilled guys couldnt figure out a way to unlock this MoPhon atleast we can start work on this again COME ON Guys! the thread is being inactive please show some humanity.
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
kaleemhunter said:
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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i am afraid to tell you brother but there is no development under process of photon 4g the people on 2.3.5 are locked for good and its a misery for the developers too that they couldnt unlock it.. A replacement of another new model will be the only way to use new android versions lol :good:
check out Motorolla Moto G it has official upgrade of kitkat its affordable too :good:
photon
.. I've photon 2.3.5 and locked for sure.. hoping on dev to get a way out there..
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
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brother we are talking about the bootloader unlock of photon 4g devices on 2.3.5 please clear that did you unlocked the bootloader or just unlocked your phone?? and whats your the problem you are facing now? let me know. I can help
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
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if you have your photon with you right now then take a look at its bootloader open it and it must say UNLOCKED if not then your bootloader is still locked..
so the modem error comes and the mobile doesn't works?? I think its a hardware problem as far as i know
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
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what really? it says unlocked that it means the bootloader is unlocked how the hell did you unlocked your bootloader on 2.3.5? you have to remember it brother?
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
A friend brought me a photon of his he is wanting to use with straight talk Sim , It is on 2.3.5 ota I believe but don't know . Have tried to unlock the boot loader but keep getting (FAILED (remote: (00180001))) when I try to get the unlock key. It has root but does not register the straight talk Sim and I felt unlocking the boot loader would help me fix this issue but am finding I can't .can anyone help am open to any suggestions. Pls know though I am still learning how to use the adb, fastboot, and know little about rsd (can't get it to even pick up the phone)
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def2moto said:
I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
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woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
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Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
boxorandyos said:
woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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fuzzy7k said:
Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
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Forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know, but here are a few random tidbits of info:
The OTA update blew a hardware fuse which somehow prevents bootloader unlock by any known methods
The only ROMs that can be flashed with the bootloader locked are ones using the stock kernel as-is, like peetr's ROM, so I think your guess about the kernel image becoming set in stone is correct.
Don't know anything else but I also have an OTA-locked one which I could run stuff on and get you output, if you want it, and an unlocked one (pre OTA update) running CM9. As long as it doesn't mess up my devices I could provide you with debug info.
def2moto said:
Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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I will try an remember to get back to you
there is one thing I was just thinking about that I do remember thinking about afterwards. whatever I did that made it work may have stemmed from what I later discovered was a corrupted file. I remember downloading file after file and trying to flash dozens of different files. every time I was getting all sorts of errors. suddenly tho I got a different error and after that when I would try throwing commands at the phone I would get completely different responses. my memory is very limited of it all but I thought I was completely screwed.
somehow tho I suddenly had a phone with the pre ota software on it.
whatever exactly it was that I messed up I have no clue without trying to re create the story.
-boxorandyos
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Hey guys. Nickman529 here. Sorry I haven't ever updated anything on that thread. I don't have the MoPho anymore but I'd be willing to start up development if someone would wanna send me one or donate the PayPal funds for such. I hear your cries.

[Q] What is Bump and how does it function?

So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
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Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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NBreunig3 said:
Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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I found the thread for the devs and now I understand it, basically allows you to sign images that the BL will allow, so its pretty much just as good as a BL unlock. Neat!

Relock bootloader

I recently purchased a T-Mobile LG G5. I am not too tech savvy, and since I'm a novice when it comes to rooting, I have a question I need help with.
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone. Shortly after doing so, I noticed a blister in the paint of the phone's battery/charging port tray. This is the part I'm referring to. http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-LG-G5-Accessory-Module-Loud-Speaker-Gold-p/lgg5hsg4gld.htm
I contacted T-Mobile, and they offered me a warranty replacement. That sounds great, but I'm bummed out. I have my phone customized exactly how I want it, screen protector and all. I can't figure out if I want to go through the hassle of unrooting my phone, relocking the bootloader, then doing the reverse to the new phone.
Anyhow, the answer to this one question will help me decide. There's always the possibility that the T-Mobile store rep will be unconvinced the blister, which has since then burst, was a manufacturer defect. It actually now looks more like a scratch. If I go ahead and relock the bootloader, but am denied the warranty replacement and have to keep my current phone, will I be able to unlock it again? Or should I save myself the hassle and shell out $70 to buy a new battery/charging port tray?
The common sense answer is to ignore the blemish and keep using my current phone. But I'm a perfectionist when it comes to these things and can't bring myself to do it.
EDIT: I'm going to leave this up rather then delete because the answer below may have valuable information for somebody else. But there was never a blister in the paint. I feel like such an idiot. The phone came with a plastic protective adhesive that was applied so well, I never realized it was on. That's what blistered.
You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
rebelde80 said:
Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
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Yea, It's legit funny have fun with your g5!
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Is there a way to unlock a relocked BL?
I bought a used G5 H850. When I try to unlock BL on LG site, I get the following message "Device ID is unmatched. Please check your Device ID. Your account will be locked if you enter the wrong Device ID more than 4 times.".
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
K40S said:
The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted.
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1.) the phone id was entered to get the unlock code
2.) you can find a unlock detector in a hidden service menu
:crying: if they want to see, they will be able to see!
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Csetoue said:
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
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as I know:
that’s right! At the first time the phone was unlocked; the id was registered as "unlocked" in the LG data pool! AND unfortunately the ID was related to the user account of first registration.
Best way will be to contact the first owner if you can.
K40S said:
You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
alextheboss96 said:
How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
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While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
JAYKETM said:
While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
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Ooh i see. Cool bro thanks for the reply!

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