Trial at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Try it out!
Edit: Diceplayer and ES filemanager is a nice combo, plays mkv via wifi very nicely
Limitations
1. S5PC11x Chipset can play 720p(h.264 high profile)
2. Tegra 2 based phone can not play H.264 high profile clip.
3. Froyo Galaxy S/Tab can not play movie. Gingerbread is required.
4. 2nd gen. Snapdragon can not play H.264 High profile level 4.0/5.0 clip.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Impressed! Works perfectly
Thanks for the link, buying it!
Does it play x264 high profile encoded 720p and 1080p mkv files?
Works perfect so far! Even plays across smb!
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Can someone check the playback of the following video clips, using Diceplayer? These clips are taken from this thread here. This is what the OP of that thread says:
This is a survey to see how well current tablets can play 720p and 1080p H.264 movies. Attached below are 6 sample clips from Avatar, each is of the same scene, encoded in H.264 high/main/baseline profile and 720p/1080p resolution. Please try all clips.
I've selected Avatar since it is full-frame and requires more bits than a normal wide-screen movie. This particular sequence is very high action, and serves as a worst-case test. (For playback, please minimize system load by closing down other running apps.)
http://mediafire.com/?15ec78k8s57db1z 1280 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?pylvj2fa9kzynh2 1280 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?9uk4z06ig651x3u 1280 baseline MP4
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak 1920 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?8aarftw6r499dga 1920 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?7yqwhma8yhrhusq 1920 baseline MP4
The above video 1280 high profile play just fine with stock player. Android 3.1 handle highprofile mp4 with the right spec.
The 1920 highprofile freeze my tab and only gets audio. And when do people want to play 1080p? Better to use 720p with good quality and bitrate.
The thing that's stand out with diceplayer is that you can play .mkv.
It Evan plays videos with dts.
If you want use to test and see different between diceplayer and stock you should upload videos that don't run on stock player
Have tried some highprofile mkv and its almost ok, for the most time it runs smoothly, but sometimes the picture hangs,studder.
It's almost there but it don't reach all the way, hopes that we will see updates so the playback gets better.
Also think that mp4 baseline and other video plays smoother in movie's when there is alot of movement and panning.
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Doesn't play on my 3.1 Tab
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same for me
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same here, it opens, sits for a second, then closes.
Works pretty well with these ([email protected] AC3) TV shows that I download. Not bad since Mobo couldn't play these smoothly. Video has some hiccups but audio is smooth.
Downloaded a sample video ([email protected] DTS) and there was no video. Then the file stopped playing half way through (27 seconds in).
But I don't watch movies on my tablet anyway, only TV shows. And this seems to work great. Let's see if it'll be able to stream the TV shows smoothly. Thanks OP!
This plays my 720p x264 mkvs perfectly. Fantastic find, Doc, thanks.
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Ahh finally, since neither stock nor mobo could play my .mkv's (tv series) this is godsend.
I'm running HC 3.1 & TW.
Got Diceplayer playing back a 720p .MKV file (not sure if it was high profile or not) - not buttery smooth but better than anything else I've seen so far on HC3.1
Got a couple of questions, I was wondering if anyone can answer...
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
3) IF so, how are they managing it where so many others have failed? (Wasn't the core problem with offering HW acceleration for .MKVs down to lack of support from the nVidia side of things?)
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1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
720p playback is great !
1080p just freeze the tab but hey not even my Galaxy S II cant handle Full HD besides the resolution is useless for now anyway
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It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
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I don't think it (Galaxy Tab/Tegra2) can handle level 4.1 or higher. But plays the rest better than anything else I've tried.
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1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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see my interview.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/20/focus-on-apps-dice-player/
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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
Thanks and regards
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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
Thanks and regards
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Sadly, there is no FM Radio, however, I cannot coment on the others because I have not checked them out.
FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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No it isn't implemented I think because of its huge size need bigger vibrator
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another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I think the galaxy tab playback is much better, at least out of the box. All of those codecs and such are built in and the player itself is much better!
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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And, the nice thing is that Samsung got their Hummingbird SoC DivX HD certified which means it can play mkv files natively out of the box as long as they are encoded to within blu-ray spec (no higher than level 4.1 for 1080p video).
But, the Flyer is no slouch when it comes to 720p video and it looks great on the 7" display. You can always use Handbrake or DVDCatalyst to reconvert video unless your computer isn't powerful enough to do so.
The dual-core Snapdragon is able to do 1080p playback as vague as that sounds.
I recently aquired the Flyer and I'm really dissapointed with the playback functionality. All of the 720p-res videoclips I've tried are choppy as hell (using Mobo, since the stock player is crap). It doesn't even play some .avi-files! Do I need to tweak something?
Have you tried Real Player? I have more or less tried just about every player in the market and have found RP to be the best.
Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
Thank's guys for your tips on video players! I'll try them out.
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Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
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Dice player is awesome! Good tip! Well worth 3$ or so.
I was reading on other websites and here when I tried to post this thread about a player called Diceplayer that can play high-profile mkv on Tegra2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
I installed the trial but the app crashes for me before I can even select a file. Anyone else able to get the app to run? The thread above indicates it works on the Galaxy tab...
Hopefully someone else can get this app to work, the feedback seemed pretty impressive on the Galaxy forum.
EDIT: After reading the release notes it says that h.264 high profile still doesn't work on Atrix. Since other Tegra2 phones can do it, shouldn't the Atrix be able to as well? I wonder if it's just the software that they haven't optimized for the Atrix or if the Tegra2 in the Atrix is somehow different.
Sorry I fail at this, the info I was reading that said it didn't support atrix was from a previous version. Well I still can't get the trial to work on my phone and I don't want to pay $4 for something that doesn't work.
Statements like this give me hope:
I'm stunned speechless by Diceplayer. I had literally given up playing high profile MKV's on Tegra2 with the talk about hardware limitations. This thing cleaves through high profile mkv's like a katana through hot butter.
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Diceplayer solve container problems. not Video decoding problems.
If your device can play H.264 high profile MP4, Diceplayer can play
H.264 High profile MKV.
but if not, diceplayer can't play it.
because diceplayer use same hw video decoder driver that is used by stock player.
You should retry playing your videos (in any player) after the 2.3.4 update, it seems to have fixed a lot of the h264 decoding issues for me
are you saying 2.3.4 plays high profile mkv files now?
I can play 480p MKV but 720p MKV stutters and is unwatchable
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I can play 480p MKV but 720p MKV stutters and is unwatchable
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720p will play its the 1080p that wont play correctly for me! major lag!
Hi, I know there has been some discussion about this already but I dont think this has been properly resolved.
I am fully aware of the tegra 2 video decoding limitations so lets not get into a discussion about that.
Basically, on the website Samsung suggest this can play 1080p video and there are various videos floating about suggesting it can plan youtube videos in 1080p format.
Now, here's the rub....
If you play a video in none desktop mode it plays great but this isnt in 1080p format, this is pretty obvious if you pump it out the HDMI. If you attempt to play it straight out of the browser, stock or Dolphin it stutters in 1080p and is just about watch-able in 720p.
So, I am wondering exactly what 1080p video sammy are actually referencing to?
On a side note however I have found that DICE and MXplayer do a really good job or playing main and high profile MKV's to the point where 720p high profiles are watchable at stock cpu 1 gig and smooth at 1.6 gig overclock (neither is hardware decoding, all done by CPU).
wow 60 views and no replies... ghost town in here...
Samsung simply repeats what Nvidia states which is the tegra 2 can only play 1080p video encoded in Baseline profile. The problem is nobody uses Baseline profile as its obsolete and has poor compression.
Youtube certainly does not use Baseline profile when it re-codes videos uploaded to its servers and that is problem....
Yes the video decoder in the tegra 2 sucks balls.
I dont think that is right, flash 3.2 is supposed to have tegra 2 hardware acceleration and should be able to play 1080p youtube stuff through a browser.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
See here, it still states full 1080p video playback, if it cannot play youtube 1080p then you have to wonder what it is refferring to exactly?
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I dont think that is right, flash 3.2 is supposed to have tegra 2 hardware acceleration and should be able to play 1080p youtube stuff through a browser.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
See here, it still states full 1080p video playback, if it cannot play youtube 1080p then you have to wonder what it is refferring to exactly?
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Just because it has hardware acceleration of a codec does not mean it can play all 1080p video as explained with h.264. If the video is encoded with too high of a bitrate the tegra 2 hardware accelerator chokes, and it does not take much to choke it....
Unfortunately advertisement is inherently deceptive as the case with the link you provided.
Does anyone have any more info regarding this? I really thought that with the 3.2 Honeycomb update they would optimize the Tegra 2 GPU more, but it still cant play any stream or youtube video at 1080p.
i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.
Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
EDIT solved with bs player
Try moboplayer its free.
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or MXPlayer I have used that on many MKVs
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Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
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I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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I use the exact same
mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
Unbelievable , this still not resolved after the Tegra 2 debacle.
i've played a couple mkv's just fine with the stock player and mx player. the only issue i've had with them is if i skip around, the video never picks back up, works fine in software though.
but if i just watch the movie through without skipping around, it plays perfectly.
as you can see here ICS has added support to the Matroska format, so hopefully the default player will be handling it smoothly in ICS.
hXXp://briefmobile.com/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-announced-feature-list
replace hXXp with http in link.
That's good to know. Was thinking of cancelling my preorder once I heard people having problems with mkv's & diceplayer being unavailable
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mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
Go and Download BSPlayer lite from the market. It has the same funtionality like Diceplayer. Tegra 3 can nearly play all 1080p vids.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
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Well its h264 high profile, which tegra 3 plays. Tegra 3 isn't picky, as long as its less than a 42mbps bitrate the hardware will handle it. The only standard it must meet is 1080p and less and 42mbps or less in h264 anyways. For tegra 3, i'm sure software is the issue.
Files came from my media server which are also hw accelerated with an nvidia graphics card via vdpau. never even have to check, just always plays (h264 anyways)
Again, i'm sure they'll fix it eventually,I know the chip does it, still annoying., its why I never bought tegra 2. And for those suggesting software decode, battery life PLUMMETS and the performance we would have with hw decode would be as good or better than blu ray with no stutter.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
EDIT:BS player appears to work WITH hardware acceleration. Every other app told me "not supported by system player, using software device" including dice
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Prime will handle highprofile mkv just fine if you use a other media player like mxplayer, diceplayer The problem when you can't play with the stock player is that it for the most times can't handle the audio.
Just give them some time to update there players to full Tegra3 support. The device have only been out some days and I think the developers also would like to have a device to test on.
I have posted this in a other thread, but I will repost it here to. From swedroid.se test, and translated into English.
"As is the case for the music player, Asus do net onclude their own video players, but instead uses default player that comes with Android. This is a rather rowdy players who only manages one of our clip in the table below (# 9), but without any sound, because support for AC3 missing."
"The third-party video player dice player or MX Video Player, both of which are available in the Android Market, it is however full marks. ASUS Prime plays everything we feed it with, whether it is DivX, XviD or MKV / h (x) 264-films with soundtracks in DTS or AC3 format."
Resolution / Codec / Profile / Container / Bitrate / Audio / Results (MX Video Player
640x352 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
576x320 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1,4 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 3 Mbit/s AC-3 5.1 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 9 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 14 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 19,2 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 22,8 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 25 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 30 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 42 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
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Have you tried a straight MP4 (H264/AAC) with standard Android player? You do realize that it's not just the video track that kicks the (3rd-party) player into HW or SW mode, right? Subtitles, for instance, will invoke SW mode. Chapter tracks will also probably cause SW.
As much as you sound you know, then you should also know that not every downloaded video is the same. If you have problems, SOP is first to provide specs (MediaInfo works), second is to provide a sample, third is to specify environment (which player you've tried, and their respective performance). Only noobs go "my vids don't work, now what?"
With the non-info you've provided, all you get is guesswork.
What do you mean by " files came from a media server"? If you are streaming to the device, expect skipping playback because WiFi can't handle hi-bitrate 1080p.
I have no issues running 720p or 1080p hi profile (locally) on my Transformer Prime in Dice player, even with DTS and multiple audio tracks.
people need to realise 3rd party players need to be optimised for tegra 3 for hardware acceleration. its not to do with type of file, as long as it does not have very high bitrate.
Everyone has to understand, that MKV is just a container. You can put almost anything into this container so therefore it is unlikely that the hardware can decode everything that can go into a MKV container.
The main thing about the Kal-El SoC, it is the first chip that can decode h.264 High Profile video. To see the supported codecs that Tegra 3 can decode in hardware see: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html
I've ripped hundreds of blu-rays. I've ended up using two sets of files.
Archive for playback on Samsung LED TV's and other high end DLNA devices:
Container: MKV
Video: H.264 High Profile 4.0 Constant Quality 18-20 1080p
Audio: AAC-LC 384 5.1 channel
Subtitles: sub format
Software: HD Decrypter, RipBot264 and Handbrake
Mobile Devices:
Container: m4v
Video: H.264 Base 3.0 Profile, 2-pass (1000kbps widescreen and 1200kbps for 16x9) qHD size (960x540),
Audio: AAC-LC 128 2 channel
Subtitles: Converted from the MKV
Software: Handbrake
I spend most of the time make the archive format looking as good as possible for it's size. Most files come out to 4-7GB per movie. There are exceptions depending on the quality of the movie. Movies with lots of noise in them come out to be much larger then one that is very clean. Computer Generated movies will come out to 3-4GB using CQ 18. The Prime should decode these just fine.
The mobile size I use for under powered devices and also to have as many movies as possible for it's size. qHD actually ends up looking very nice for it's size when down converted from blu-ray. A two hour movie comes out to be about 1GB. This way I can have on average 60-70 movies on 64B microsdxc card and about the same on the 64GB prime itself.
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
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sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
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According to the Tegra 3 specs, AC3 is not supported in hardware.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html