SO i made a backup with titanium backup of everything and manually made a copy of my internal sd. I flashed to 1.8.3 stock and then to the pudding enabled 2.3.4. What is the best way to get all of my stuff back? In the future, what is the best way to backup and restore everything easier? I have heard of this nandoid thing? What is that?
buckbomb56 said:
SO i made a backup with titanium backup of everything and manually made a copy of my internal sd. I flashed to 1.8.3 stock and then to the pudding enabled 2.3.4. What is the best way to get all of my stuff back? In the future, what is the best way to backup and restore everything easier? I have heard of this nandoid thing? What is that?
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just use titanium backup to restore it for now
Well, I understand that with a nandroid backup it will restore my phone to the exact same state? If I want to switch between roms in the future, is this the best way to maintain data across roms?
buckbomb56 said:
Well, I understand that with a nandroid backup it will restore my phone to the exact same state? If I want to switch between roms in the future, is this the best way to maintain data across roms?
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i beleive nandroid is a full system backup so it may be better not familiar i use ttb
Titanium Backup - Backs up your Apps + Data
Nandroid Backup - Takes an image of your phone, which can be restored at any time. Essentially everything will be exactly the same when you restore the backup.
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I get tired installing everything with titanium backup. If I use a nandroid backup can I go from ROM's such as comm romm 1.3, to Evil fascination without use of titanium backup?
Would I just go into recovery and go to advanced restore and restore just the data? Would this screw up the whole ROM or would I get my system settings and apps back?
Another quick question, and off topic:
I have update.zip on my sd card from flashing CWM many moons ago. I'm on version 3 of CWM, do I still need update.zip on my phone?
You can get rid of the update.zip if you're using CWM 3.x (or even most 2.5.x). If you aren't applying update.zip to get into CWM, then the update.zip is useless.
As for restoring data from an nandroid backup, you could possibly do that, but you'd have to restore only data, and even then you may run into problems. It's likely safest to use Titanium Backup, and only backup non-system apps/data. I just did a restore today via Titanium Backup, and it only took like 5 minutes, and I didn't see any hassle with it. Did you purchase Titanium Backup, or are you using the free version? Using the paid version may make restoring a little more painless for you.
imnuts said:
You can get rid of the update.zip if you're using CWM 3.x (or even most 2.5.x). If you aren't applying update.zip to get into CWM, then the update.zip is useless.
As for restoring data from an nandroid backup, you could possibly do that, but you'd have to restore only data, and even then you may run into problems. It's likely safest to use Titanium Backup, and only backup non-system apps/data. I just did a restore today via Titanium Backup, and it only took like 5 minutes, and I didn't see any hassle with it. Did you purchase Titanium Backup, or are you using the free version? Using the paid version may make restoring a little more painless for you.
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Thanks. Appreciate your advice.
I'm curious about this. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
Lets say that I'm on stock 2.2, rooted. I do a nandroid backup. Then I allow the upgrade for 2.2.2. Of course I lose root.
Will a nandroid restore, restore root, or will I have to root again?
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
maltloaf said:
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
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Ahh, okay.
So to confirm that I understand you correctly...
...the 2.2.2 update won't hold after the nandroid restore? I'll be back to 2.2, as it was before the (2.2.2) update?
If you just wanna backup and restore your apps, use Titanium Backup (it's free on the Market).
Nandroid backs up your entire phone. When you restore a nandroid backup your phone will be exactly like it was when you made the backup. Restoring a nandroid backup is used to recover from a crash or to revert to a previous ROM.
After a ROM change I will set up my accounts, root if needed and do any other basic setup stuff and then, before installing any apps, do a nandroid backup. I can then go back to a "fresh install" if I want to. I also do a nandroid each weekly to capture the state of my phone.
Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
I have not tried backing up my apps to Google, which you can do in later versions of Android. Go to Privacy in the setting menu and then to Backup and restore. There are boxes for data backup and automatic restore you can check. maybe someone who has used this can comment on how well it works.
If your nandroid backups hang up at "backing up firstboot" get the latest version of StreakMod Recovery.
marvin02 said:
Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
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After installing a fresh ROM and rooting my device, the first thing I do is install Busybox. Then, with Titanium Backup I do Restore Apps Only, then reboot my device. I never get any FC's with this restore process.
Thanks!
Thank you everyone. I appreciate the info.
I've used Titanium BU, and have busybox installed too.
It was just a matter of if after an update (OTA), and restore with Nandroid, would root still be in place.
I totally understand what you guys are saying now.
I've also been using MyBackup to see how it compares to Titanium. So far so good.
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I prefer mybackup root to titanium. It's far more user friendly and more automated (in the free version). As for nandroids, I always take a backup before doing any system changes (hacks or rom updates) so I can roll back to a known good system if needs be.
BTW - it is a good idea to copy your ROM backups to another device, just in case your SD card dies. I copy mine to one of my desktop computers and to a USB drive. I usually back up my entire SD card, except my music folders, every couple of weeks.
Where does Nandroid put the backups so I can rename them and save off phone?
mine (from Streakmod recovery) are in /sdcard/rom_backup
StreakMod recovery puts the backups on the SD Card in a folder named rom_backup.
Each backup is in a sub-folder of it's own and uses a date-time format for the folder name. I rename the folders with a meaningful name by just pre-pending to the name. So my last backup is named BB351-2011-06-18-02.41.04. The following files are created:
.android_secure.img
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
firstboot.img
recovery.img
system.img
nandroid.md5
the md5 file is a text file that contains the md5 sums for the other files. This file is used to verify the other files when they are restored.
If I backup only my data through Amon Ra, then flash a new Rom (after wiping everything) can I restore my data over the rom?
I've never tried anything like that (due to previously using CWR)
Thanks
not sure but the easy way i know how to do this is use titanium backup to back up everything and when u restore just restore the data
yojoe600 said:
not sure but the easy way i know how to do this is use titanium backup to back up everything and when u restore just restore the data
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That sucks.
Thanks anyways
But don't restore data from one ROM to a different ROM. That can mess things up.
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
Your choice but a reasonably recent backup should be ok .
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
NO it backs up all bar EFS and Modem .
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Not relevant as you cannot backup without root.
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
YES
cwm = nandroid backup?
And more
jje
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anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
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Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
SirKunon said:
Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
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really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
anthony001 said:
really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
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Everything in internal partitions system layout and .android secure partition on sdcard... just all you have got actually on your phones internal (system memory). Full backup including kernel, modem, system, apps and their data (saves, settings, etc.)
Of course if game save are stored in internal or external sd-card than its will NOT been stored into nandroid backup, but it remain on those sdcard(s) even after nandroid restore. Only formatting sdcard will remove those saves, data, etc. (also full factory reset with service code formats all phones partition including internal sccard).
If you know what a windows image backup then this works the same restores all .
But EFS and Modem .
Nandroid backup full working phone 10-am
Flash JB xxxx rom and it fails or dont like it .
Restore to 10-am full working phone Nandroid backup .
Modem and EFS stay on the phone the same .
Useful very i have done five Nandroid restores already to day after test modifications .
I also have copy of TB and Nandroid backups on PC just in case .
jje
Important thing is to restore backup on the same recovery (cwm) on which backup was make. If partition layout has changed after nandbacup you also cant restore it, phone will stuck on bootlogo.
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Can i use nandroid backups to switch systems
Like to switch back after trying a new rom without pc
If by nandroid you mean TWRP backups, then yes.
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
Yes a nandroid backup (aka twrp backup) saves a snapshot of the system in time so it doesn't matter what you do afterwards, once you restore the backup your device will go back to the same exact spot as it was the time when you'd taken the backup. Also when you often hear ppl say take backup before trying new update/rom/zip, this is exactly what they mean.
And yes you don't need pc as long as you can access your backup through otg USB/memory card etc.
Sammy4798 said:
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
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Take care to backup the system image and not system. And use the same version of TWRP for backing up and restoring. Both these are not a must but to be on the safer side.