Hi all, I posted this in another Tab 10.1 forum at www.thegalaxytabforum.com but I am also posting this question and concern here to see who else has this problem/concern and if it can be fixed.
I am having an ergonomic problem with this Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 sleek slim design!
While holding the tablet as one intuitively would and trying to type or do touch screen motions I find that the palm areas of my hands always touch the "page back" arrow button at the lower left edge of the screen (on the bottom task bar) and causes it to exit out of the page I am working on. Same goes for the lower right corner edge where the clock/settings icon opens up when my right hand palm leans up against it inadvertently.
I find that Samsung in all their wisdom of trying to make a slim sleek looking design surely messed up on this point! The tablet's screen bordering edge sure looks good, but is way too thin and too close to the active screen area at the lower corners causing one's hands and palms to easily contact those corner icons and inadvertently activate them.
Can anything be done to move those corner icons further away from the corner edges so that these sorts of false touch activations can be eliminated?
The Asus EE Transformer tablet my son has, does not have this problem because the tablet frame is wider and keeps your hand palms further away from falsely touching those corner icons.
Samsung, goofed up here. I hope my suggestion of moving the icons away from these corners can be done in a software OS update.
Your just an idiot who doesn't know how to use it. I have the exact same tablet and it works perfectly. I have no problem with the back button or anything. My brother has the Motorola xoom which has a smaller bezel all around and all be does is use that tablet. He has no problem with it at all. So it doesn't matter if you have a big or small bezel to use the tablet you just have to be smart. And obviously your not so you should just go and return it
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Theflubbinator said:
Your just an idiot who doesn't know how to use it. I have the exact same tablet and it works perfectly. I have no problem with the back button or anything. My brother has the Motorola xoom which has a smaller bezel all around and all be does is use that tablet. He has no problem with it at all. So it doesn't matter if you have a big or small bezel to use the tablet you just have to be smart. And obviously your not so you should just go and return it
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What a childish immature response. Totally un-helpful! I think the moderator should ban you if you keep posting like this. At least delete this totally unhelpful post of yours.
if you use the tab on a table your palm should rest on the table surface, same if you use it on your lap.
especially if you're an adult and have big hands
I use my 10.1 with one hand all the time and never run into this problem. To each their own, I suppose.
jeandujardin01 said:
if you use the tab on a table your palm should rest on the table surface, same if you use it on your lap.
especially if you're an adult and have big hands
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Well, I don't think my hands are that big but I do not use the tablet at a table nor in my lap looking down at it. I wanted to get a tablet because it is supposed to be light and portable and easily held in your hands to read like a book. Also if one is laying down relaxing on a sofa or in bed taking in some night time surfing whilst going to bed, then some hand holding it up with two hands is required. Sooner or later your palm is going to brush up and touch the screen inadvertently even if you are aware of this issue, the brain easily drifts off every now and then and you can forget for a moment to keep your hands away from the touch screen.
I guarantee you not everyone is going to always use the tablet on a flat table surface or always in their laps. There will be some hand holding positions folks will be using it in.
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I usually just lurk on these forums as I am completely new to android and still just getting to barely understand the basics. To thank everyone here for this tremendous redource, i wanted to share my solution forfinding the tablet buttons in the dark . I have some 1/8th automotive pinstriping that I use to mark my rock climbing gear. It's very durable but can easily be chipped off with a fingernail without leaving any residue. It's also thick enough that you can easily feel it with your fingertip. I put strips running from front to back in line where each button sits with a tiny bit overhanging the lip on the screen. if you cut it right you can feel the edge if you run your finger along the lip but it won't peel off if you get it right. Just be careful if you clean the screen with a microfiber cloth because it will snag on the edges. So noe ican feel where the buttons line up in the dark and my g tab has some wicked yet functional racing stripes. I went with reflective orange. i hear it adds a couple of ghz to the processor speed like flourescent paint adds hp to civics.
I hope someone finds this useful. I wouldn't have bothered buying this tablet if I hadn't learned from this forum about all the cool stuff i could do, and since have done to it. Many thanks to all of you for your hard work and continued enthusiasim.
I'm actually used to where the buttons are. I don't need to see them anymore to use them. In the dark, I hit it 95% of the time first time nowadays.
hey, i think that's a great idea. a fix that will work for users who don't want to mod the gtab in order to add LEDs.
would an autoparts store have that 1/8in pinstripe? i wonder how well it would go on over a skinomi?
@ffastfzr
Could you post some pics? Id really like to see what this looks like. It sounds like a great idea.
I'll see what I can do
The pinstriping is available at auto parts stores. It will stick to a clear coat on a car and pretty much anything you else you stick it to. So it should stick to a skin. I ordered mine online because I wanted highly reflective bright orange. Like I said I had it for my rock climbing gear. you get a distinctive color and size and then you wrap a little stripe on each piece of your gear like carabiners so your climbing partners don't walk away with them. The joke is that you trust your partners to hold the rope and potentially save your life, but you don't trust them to not walk off with your gear.
I'll take a couple of pics and post as soon as I can. My firm is having networking issues and I am about to get kicked offline until this evening.
pics of pinstriping
Sorry, DISASTER at work followed up with a case of lyme disease complete with 2 weeks worth of industrial strength antibiotics. My luck could certainly be better. Anyway, pics are attached. Sorry they aren't they greatest.
Button Savior is alot easier
button savior is nice. I also find that in the dark, hitting the back button is easy if you just put your thumb on the side of the screen and just slide it up. When it hits the back button, just stop
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Button Savior is alot easier
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Button savoir combined with Quick Boot, both free in the market can handle all the process of both the soft keys and the power button functions easily..
I like this Idea, if I switch to a rom other than VEGAn Ginger which has soft keys on the bottom I may try it out.
Hello,
So, I received my Prime on 2/8/12 and I absolutely adore it. However, I have noticed that on the right side of my screen near the bottom, the very edges seem to be able to be depressed just slightly. The best word I can come up with is Spongy. If I press quickly I can hear where the case and the screen come together and click softly. There is no Creaking or anything.
Is this a known defect or is it just a soft spot on the case and there is nothing to worry about? So far I have not received a straight answer on it. It certainly doesn't effect anything. I have decent wifi connectivity in an old Cement Style Apartment and the screen is perfect. I walked in knowing the GPS wasn't going to work and had very little worry or interest in GPS in a tablet.
Thanks for your help!
Miles
I know exactly what you're saying...but I'm almost 100% sure that there's no issue here. It just happens to be a place where there's no clip to fully secure it and it doesn't come together exactly in that location, but it's not going to cause an issue.
That is what I was assuming as well. I wanted to make sure. I am so happy with this tablet thus far, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at a defect. Takes a huge load off my mind and my wife's as well. For as much as we paid for it I would hate to see something small be the cause of some major flaw.
Thank you so much!
Hmm, It seems I have a Spongy spot on all sides of my tablet. Right side on the bottom (near where you would hold it in Landscape), On the top near the camera (I can actually feel alot of give here and hear the case clack against it when I even just hold it in Portrait mode), Just below the volume rocker and another beside the Power adapter area.
Sadly I am starting to think this isn't exactly normal. Am I the only one thinking it might be time to head back to office depot?
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Hmm, It seems I have a Spongy spot on all sides of my tablet. Right side on the bottom (near where you would hold it in Landscape), On the top near the camera (I can actually feel alot of give here and hear the case clack against it when I even just hold it in Portrait mode), Just below the volume rocker and another beside the Power adapter area.
Sadly I am starting to think this isn't exactly normal. Am I the only one thinking it might be time to head back to office depot?
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After reading this, I checked the spot by the camera, and I have that too. You really shouldn't worry about it though...they're WAY within tolerances for devices of this kind...I mean, it moves like what, 0.001mm?
My first one was the same way as it the one I just got as a replacement (I sent the first one in for an unrelated problem). I wouldn't worry too much about it.
So everyone says not to worry. I am really glad to hear that More people are having this problem than just myself. Yes it is a very slight movement, however, I was worried about it hindering the screen. I called office depot today and they said they would refund me if I wished. I think I will probably call off the refund. It is an amazing tablet and I love it to death. Hopefully nothing worse comes of it as time goes on.
I have a lot of thinking to do I suppose. I kind of feel like if I take the refund I am going to have to take a step backwards, due to the loss of the quad core. Though, between my wifes Dual core and my quad core I see very little difference between the two.
Like the title says... Is this a defect or a galaxy note feature?
Sometimes when I'm using the s pen, it seems like it taps the screen even though the pen does not even touch the screen yet. I can recreate the problem especially on the bottom right areas.
What I want to know if this actually a note feature.
It's weird because in those areas I only need to hover the pen and it will click/tap the icons there.
Same issue here with Dot button in Memo thou.
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Same here... Bottom right just over the back button ... Driving me nuts
Happens to me too....
It is a feauture if you feel comfy with it. It is a defect if you do not feel comfy with it. I dnt find it to be a defect
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There's been several mentions of this defect here on the forums already.
Here's the short explanation: the magnet from the speaker on the back of the phone is screwing with the s-pen signal a little bit in the lower right area of the screen.
Here's the short fix: wrap a tiny piece of aluminum tape around the s-pen, right at the bottom of the button, as seen in this video.
Or you can wait and see if Samsung makes an updated version of the s-pen that doesn't get the interference.
The bottom-most right-most corner of my display (in portrait) is not responsive to touches and is kind of annoying when typing. I have to usually try several times to get the response.
Stock ROM, only rooted. I just reset it again. I changed the lcd density back to 320 to see if that was an issue, formally at 240.
I used the S-Pen to do these drawing to demonstrate the problem area. The results are strange. In portrait the problem exists but when in landscape it doesn't appear to be a problem. Is this a hardware or software issue or anyone else experience this?
The local AT&T shop says it’s definitely not normal and I can go to their local warranty shop but I don’t necessarily want to get a refurbished replacement if the ICS release might fix it.
I dont have a note yet, but personally myself, I would unroot and take it back asap. Hopefully someone on here will be able to offer a better solution soon, but if not, then I would return it. Hope you get it sorted out.
Pretty sure it's the built-in offset. Go to phone settings -> pen options and change the dominant hand to left. I think you'll find that it is now the bottom left corner that won't respond. Also test with the phone upside down, and it should still be one of the bottom corners (but the other side, since you've turned the phone upside down).
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Pretty sure it's the built-in offset. Go to phone settings -> pen options and change the dominant hand to left. I think you'll find that it is now the bottom left corner that won't respond. Also test with the phone upside down, and it should still be one of the bottom corners (but the other side, since you've turned the phone upside down).
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Changing the dominance does swap the S-Pen's ability to recognize that corner and changes it to the other corner.
However, it's stll not recognizing my finger touches.
So to confirm, using my finger with the dominance swapped yields the same results as the images posted with the S-Pen.
When rotated to landscape and using my finger, I cannot reach that corner like I can with the S-Pen when rotated to landscape.
I would believe this is a finger touch issue and not to much S-Pen
Actually. I have a slightly bigger problem. Sometimes hovering my spen above the right bottom corner will trigger a touch. Mainly the space. Enter. Backspace. And m keys. I think I'm going to get it swapped out
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Actually. I have a slightly bigger problem. Sometimes hovering my spen above the right bottom corner will trigger a touch. Mainly the space. Enter. Backspace. And m keys. I think I'm going to get it swapped out
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that's actually been covered, there's a post here about putting aluminum foil tape on your stylus to correct the issue.
AT&T is sending me another one... we'll see what that one does and hope that it's just not my personal perception.
Replacement arrived and does not share the issue
I did test the s6 at a retailer and I noticed that the Samsung Notes App did not recognize my handwriting in landscape mode at a specific place. It was when I did get closer with my palm to the edge (with power and volume button on the upper side).
At the middle kind of a little bit to the right there seems to be a blind spot where writing/drawing is not recognized in first place. Only after second or third attempt and then it seems like the recognition of the pressure is half off.
Don't know if the bright light from above or a already often used spen causes this.
Can any owner confirm?
Picture is attached (left space is empty because I did not encounter issues there)
LaCereb said:
I did test the s6 at a retailer and I noticed that the Samsung Notes App did not recognize my handwriting in landscape mode at a specific place. It was when I did get closer with my palm to the edge (with power and volume button on the upper side).
At the middle kind of a little bit to the right there seems to be a blind spot where writing/drawing is not recognized in first place. Only after second or third attempt and then it seems like the recognition of the pressure is half off.
Don't know if the bright light from above or a already often used spen causes this.
Can any owner confirm?
Picture is attached (left space is empty because I did not encounter issues there)
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Looks just like mine in this post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80372311&postcount=16
Was it in a case or something else with magnets?
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Looks just like mine in this post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80372311&postcount=16
Was it in a case or something else with magnets?
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HAH.
Yes indeed it was on a stand with a magnet on top to hold the device. And that field where i could not draw would fit the size of that magnet..
Unbelivable that you have to keep such things in mind when you want to you a tablet with that price...
Does Apple have such problems with their ipad series? Im so much struggling in the decision if apple or samsung. Im a Android guy and would like to keep my Android world but i want a performant device which does not have childhood injuries like that....
LaCereb said:
HAH.
Yes indeed it was on a stand with a magnet on top to hold the device. And that field where i could not draw would fit the size of that magnet..
Unbelivable that you have to keep such things in mind when you want to you a tablet with that price...
Does Apple have such problems with their ipad series? Im so much struggling in the decision if apple or samsung. Im a Android guy and would like to keep my Android world but i want a performant device which does not have childhood injuries like that....
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It isn't the tablet, but the case/holder.
I have two cases. One which the tab slips in to a holder—no probs there.
My other case holds the tab (very securely) with a magnet—therefore the dead spot. Love this case, except for the dead spot ceated by the stting magnet. This an awesome case in every other way, especially because there is nothing blocking the sides of the tablet, no edge swipe issues, et al.
So, I've just accepted that if I want to do any serious S-pen writing or drawing I have to either go case-less, or switch to the other one.
TiTiB said:
It isn't the tablet, but the case/holder.
I have two cases. One which the tab slips in to a holder—no probs there.
My other case holds the tab (very securely) with a magnet—therefore the dead spot. Love this case, except for the dead spot ceated by the stting magnet. This an awesome case in every other way, especially because there is nothing blocking the sides of the tablet, no edge swipe issues, et al.
So, I've just accepted that if I want to do any serious S-pen writing or drawing I have to either go case-less, or switch to the other one.
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Could you link your second Case please
LaCereb said:
Could you link your second Case please
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Just search my name in S6 forum. Both cases are linked—Amazon.