Discussion: ROM development for Official Samsung FW (2.3.3 - KPL, KPN) - Galaxy Ace S5830 General

EDIT: As of August 1, 2011 - CF-Root can now be used for KPN together with its features and mods such as the use of ext4 filesystem and apps2SD.
For more details on this development, go here. Thanks to ketut.kumajaya for making CF-Root compatible to 2.3.3 KPN.
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I have just noticed that almost all dev, Scripts, modification, ROMs coming in for our phone (GT-S5830) is based on XXKPH or 2.3.4. While this is actually good and finally the Galaxy Ace forum is not a legacy forum anymore, I still believe that it would be so much better if there will be a ROM, modification, or customized improvement that will be done using 2.3.3 (KPL or KPN or the upcoming official FW from Samsung on 2.3.3)
Why 2.3.3? (Just because KPH is 2.3.4 doesn't mean that it's better)
It's an official release.
Samsung has improved and fixed quite a number of issues found on previous builds of 2.3.3 (KPN) and even on the leaked 2.3.4 (KPH). This includes the wake-up lag an Wifi Sleep of Death.
2.3.3 is already available via KIES (as of KPE build)
2.3.3 might be improved further. As you may notice, for now, the European countries are getting the 2.3.3 (KPE - Russian, KPK - Still a European Release, KPL - Poland, KPN - Spain). Imagine when it becomes available in KIES in America and Asia. There might be new bug fixes and improvements.
The reasons above makes 2.3.3 KPL, KPN a more stable version of Gingerbread for the Ace already. Actually, IMO it is really the most stable firmware for the Ace.
Most of all, 2.3.4 KPH might not be continued until the next Android version for Smartphones (which could probably take years before it reaches Galaxy Ace)
Current ROM on 2.3.3.
Currently, VillainROMv1 is the only ROM for the Ace that is based on 2.3.3 (KPE). It may not be one of the fastest custom ROMs out there for the Ace but it's one of the most stable because of using 2.3.3 as its base.
Still, even if this is the case, it would still be nice to have a new custom ROM based on 2.3.3 (probably KPN or newest build when it's released) because at the end of the day, a stable and fast ROM is what everyone is looking for.
Maybe if I don't work, I may have tried on cooking a ROM for 2.3.3 (KPN) but for now, let this post be an inspiration for devs and scripters to have a look at the latest official release of Samsung firmware for the Ace.
Your Opinion
What do you think? Have you tried using 2.3.3 KPN? Have you tried using custom ROMs built on KPH? Which ROM or firmware is more stable and faster?
What's the greatest combination that worked for you and lasted on your phone for more than 1 week?

i absolutely agree with above - not just because it's official etc. it's LATEST officially tested and released firmware, meaning there's quite a chance sammy fixed sth really annoying like infamous SOD's (and also screwed up elsewhere as usual ) but there always some 'but'...
the whole rom development goes forward along with new builds and usually it's progress (although many would point out kph 2.3.4 -> kpl/n 2.3.3 is not)
other teams, other roms - it is the same story. but it's just point to release new custom versions based on newer builds instead of postponing all development while waiting for THE very last build... let it grow

Yeah atlast we are out of Legacy thing......deserving the right place...... Thanks XDA mods

Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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I'm using the latest brazilian FW 2.3.4 and I don't have any wifi sod's, random screenshots or whatever. Actually, I don't care about official FWs, it's nice, but I want CM7!

Jekle_Ace said:
Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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Actually its due this week ;D
P.s. The only real difference in 2.3.4 is video call, which we cant use anyways...
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Jekle_Ace said:
Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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Never knew that the random screen shot was a bug. Encountered a couple of those while in KPH.
Hope someone develop a custom rom based on KPN..

I've been using 2.3.4 KPH for almost 2 months now and (lucky me) I have not experienced any SODs, WiFi crash or something like that.
The upcoming GingerReal seem to use 2.3.4 as its base, CMIIW.

indeezindii said:
i absolutely agree with above - not just because it's official etc. it's LATEST officially tested and released firmware, meaning there's quite a chance sammy fixed sth really annoying like infamous SOD's (and also screwed up elsewhere as usual ) but there always some 'but'...
the whole rom development goes forward along with new builds and usually it's progress (although many would point out kph 2.3.4 -> kpl/n 2.3.3 is not)
other teams, other roms - it is the same story. but it's just point to release new custom versions based on newer builds instead of postponing all development while waiting for THE very last build... let it grow
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Of course of course. I'm actually thankful that there are a lot of great Custom ROMs now for the Ace like FirstUA and even gingerreal even if it's just in t5b release.
Just saying that it would be nice to have Custom ROMs as well for the KPN at least since it seems like a lot of bugs has been fixed in KPN like the fluctuating/stuck 3g connection (I dont get that now in 2.3.3)
Also, just like the posts above me, the UK version is probably coming very soon. (English FW for the win!) Which could be a good base for Custom ROMs since it's already in english.
Last but not the least, it would be really nice to have a Custom ROM based on KPN or whatever the build for UK firmware will be that does not need a lot of things to do because right now, my friends don't want to flash to a custom rom because they are afraid that they may brick their phones because there are so many things to do in order to flash.

well, lot to do to flash custom from stock, me feel the same that's why i'm rather waiting for tested good custom (gingerreal possibly?) with good tutorial and howto. patience pays back i reckon.

+1 for a KPN based custom rom.

wifi bug is the most annoying!
what modifications are compatible with KPN firmware?
i'm talking about cf-root, dta2sd, juwe's script, the works!

Hi guys,
i'm using KPH now for over a month and i like it very much till now. Im using it because there's a lot of mods and stuff for it at the moment and the near future, that make it even better.
As 4 stability; i think al latest 2.3.3 GB builds are even (only lang. are different i think), but don't know about KPH because it was an earlier release as the 2.3.3 builds. There could be bugs in it indeed, that are gone in 2.3.3 builds, but only time will tell as the builds are to new to tell already.
Maybe in time i will flash my phone to the Dutch firmware when it comes out or use the UK version of 2.3.3, but till then i will stay at 2.3.4.
Cheers!

I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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Jekle_Ace said:
I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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That would be nice if you could do that
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i am KPN user. i am stisfied with this rom.
my phone doesnt install many aplication. so i dont need DT.
my phone is my internet, i hope samsung release next generation of XWKPN

Im lucky not to have the bugs the author is saying.
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Jekle_Ace said:
I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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Looking forward to that.
I'm like Saminos. I use this phone most of the time for internet because of work and I'm always traveling. But still, it would be better to see ROMs based on probably the most stable firmware release of Samsung so far.
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chinoyray said:
I have just noticed that almost all dev, Scripts, modification, ROMs coming in for our phone (GT-S5830) is based on XXKPH or 2.3.4. While this is actually good and finally the Galaxy Ace forum is not a legacy forum anymore, I still believe that it would be so much better if there will be a ROM, modification, or customized improvement that will be done using 2.3.3 (KPL or KPN or the upcoming official FW from Samsung on 2.3.3)
Why 2.3.3? (Just because KPH is 2.3.4 doesn't mean that it's better)
It's an official release.
Samsung has improved and fixed quite a number of issues found on previous builds of 2.3.3 (KPN) and even on the leaked 2.3.4 (KPH). This includes the wake-up lag an Wifi Sleep of Death.
2.3.3 is already available via KIES (as of KPE build)
2.3.3 might be improved further. As you may notice, for now, the European countries are getting the 2.3.3 (KPE - Russian, KPK - Still a European Release, KPL - Poland, KPN - Spain). Imagine when it becomes available in KIES in America and Asia. There might be new bug fixes and improvements.
The reasons above makes 2.3.3 KPL, KPN a more stable version of Gingerbread for the Ace already. Actually, IMO it is really the most stable firmware for the Ace.
Most of all, 2.3.4 KPH might not be continued until the next Android version for Smartphones (which could probably take years before it reaches Galaxy Ace)
Current ROM on 2.3.3.
Currently, VillainROMv1 is the only ROM for the Ace that is based on 2.3.3 (KPE). It may not be one of the fastest custom ROMs out there for the Ace but it's one of the most stable because of using 2.3.3 as its base.
Still, even if this is the case, it would still be nice to have a new custom ROM based on 2.3.3 (probably KPN or newest build when it's released) because at the end of the day, a stable and fast ROM is what everyone is looking for.
Maybe if I don't work, I may have tried on cooking a ROM for 2.3.3 (KPN) but for now, let this post be an inspiration for devs and scripters to have a look at the latest official release of Samsung firmware for the Ace.
Your Opinion
What do you think? Have you tried using 2.3.3 KPN? Have you tried using custom ROMs built on KPH? Which ROM or firmware is more stable and faster?
What's the greatest combination that worked for you and lasted on your phone for more than 1 week?
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Kabayn..nice..great idea..
By the wy..
Is 2.3.3 available in our country now?
I havent checked it out..

KPN for me is way better than Froyo .. I can't believe I'm saying this.. But here goes .. I used to develop for my old GT540 , so I'm not all stupid .. How do I enable Apps2SD , im not rooted and dont plan to ...
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[Q] Which Gingerbread rom is best for X10I and which most upto date baesbands?

Hello Guys
First off thank you to everyone for all your hardwork
I am having a problem finding the best Gingerbread rom and the correct basebands that work. I have tried a few and more often than not i have problems with random reboots and error messages. I would like to know which people find out there work the most stable and which combo of rom and basebands please
I have also wondered with Android been an OS for all models of phones can you install a rom on an X10i (my model handset) that has been made and is basically stable as F8*k for example a HD Desire or model that would work on X10i. I think i may know the answer and that been that it isn't possible but i want to ask anyway just to clarify
Lastly a very big thankyou to everyone for all there hard work and time put into the development of the roms so that we can all update our phones when SE couldn't even release updated roms for us. Personally i think it was a case of they didn't release 2.3 for X10i as they had the Arc coming out and 2.3 was probs it's biggest selling point.
Marti
Cyanogen CM7.0 RC4 v013 Gingerbread 2.3.3 is the only one I think... arc rom is not really maintained and was more of just a test. you need BB .52 . for me v013 rebooted a lot, but I am going to try v014 later
Hello
Gopdemon thanks for your reply
I have tried both of what you suggested with no luck :-(
I think maybe it's a problem with the baseband rather than the rom?
The GB ROM is unstable right now, even with the custom kernel. I would stick to 2.2 since its like 99-100% done. But you can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947613
Mister J thanks for the link. Thats the rom i am currently on
Thank You
Thanks to everyone that replied. I am now trying to work out which MIUI roms are best with best baseband but always running into issues :-( typed by Kate on behalf of Marti

Official Gingerbread Release

I know SE said Q2/Q3 for the gingerbread release, but first of all, does anyone have a good idea of exactly when I can be expecting it? and will the devs be porting to work with AT&t since they didnt give it to us =[ ..
BY the way , the froyo Roms are great and some are very stable , Im just curious about using a stable gingerbread rom straight from SE.
GravvyTrain said:
I know SE said Q2/Q3 for the gingerbread release, but first of all, does anyone have a good idea of exactly when I can be expecting it? and will the devs be porting to work with AT&t since they didnt give it to us =[ ..
BY the way , the froyo Roms are great and some are very stable , Im just curious about using a stable gingerbread rom straight from SE.
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I think TRIPS 2.3 MIUI ROM will be stable in no time.
Hi m8, from what i can gather SE didn't provide the exact GB release date...yet. the os will be avaiable only for generic non branded devices, so not every one will get it. At&t should be able to tell u if they will be providing the update.
Personally I've debranded my handset and will flash the generic global .435 kernel when the GB os will be released to see if i can get it through pc compilation.
Hope this helps
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What I dont understand is that first of, Se announced that the Xperia cpu power wont be enough for futuring android releases and now they are releasing. Whats the logic in that?
rdannar's superarc is awesome..
Rotweiler said:
What I dont understand is that first of, Se announced that the Xperia cpu power wont be enough for futuring android releases and now they are releasing. Whats the logic in that?
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They lie as much as I brush my teeth.
Think about how much disinformation, etc... SE has given us.
They say whatever is convenient at the time

[Q] Android 2.3.6 for Galaxy S2?

Hi Guys,
Terrible newbie question here; I have searched briefly but haven't found an answer.
Is Android 2.3.6 available for the Galaxy S2? I'm still on 2.3.3 and am bored of waiting for OTA updates.
I've seen that there is a 2.3.5 ROM available here on these forums but don't see the point in upgrading to that now then 2.3.6 is out...
Can anyone help me with my question for up-to-dateness?
Thanks.
2.3.4 just released today in some Nordic countries, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269607. Then 2.3.5, 2.3.6...
So why did you search about 2.3.6? Update to 2.3.4 first!
ithehappy said:
2.3.4 just released today in some Nordic countries, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269607. Then 2.3.5, 2.3.6...
So why did you search about 2.3.6? Update to 2.3.4 first!
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I was just going by Wikipedia which says the current Android version is 2.3.6....
Is there any indication from Samsung when they'll be pushing out 2.3.4 to the UK devices?
I would love to get a basic installation really without all of the Samsung crap on it. :\
Seb Spiers said:
I was just going by Wikipedia which says the current Android version is 2.3.6....
Is there any indication from Samsung when they'll be pushing out 2.3.4 to the UK devices?
I would love to get a basic installation really without all of the Samsung crap on it. :\
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Actually the current Android version is 2.3.7 for NFC capable devices, stop thinking about official 2.3.6, they barely launched official 2.3.4 for northern europe.
I'm in Spain southern Europe and still no 2.3.4. But I have had a few 2.3.3 updates which is fine by me. I love this phone.
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stupid question our device is NFC capable isnt it? and well even if it is we dont have that over here in the UK anyway the NFC spots were to use it
Matriak31 said:
stupid question our device is NFC capable isnt it? and well even if it is we dont have that over here in the UK anyway the NFC spots were to use it
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Nope, european version doesn't have NFC, only korean and an american version if i'm not mistaking.
Just for future references, Google releases new Android OS versions, it first shows up in Nexus Phones. Then, manufacturers need to get the lastest OS to build their new ROM around it with their own skin/theme. This typically takes couple months and then a new ROM leaked or released. So, typically you will see a new Samsung ROM about 6 months later. You can't download or install Android OS directly. You have to wait for OEM to built it.
Seb Spiers said:
I was just going by Wikipedia which says the current Android version is 2.3.6....
Is there any indication from Samsung when they'll be pushing out 2.3.4 to the UK devices?
I would love to get a basic installation really without all of the Samsung crap on it. :\
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Try Cyanogenmod 7...
why do u even want 2.3.6
2.3.4 fixed a lot of issues people had with battery life etc + google talk video support )
2.3.5
Brought improved network performance for the Nexus S 4G, among other fixes and improvements.
Fixed bluetooth bug on Samsung Galaxy S
Improved Gmail application
2.3.6
Voice search bug fixed.
... yay ?
Yahhh ???
melorib said:
Try Cyanogenmod 7...
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Yahhh ??? ... when I read about SGS2 Cyanogenmod 7.1 "stable" version ... many reports about bug here and there!!!
So for me latest official SGS2 ROM is really stable and I'm happy about TouchWiz
But ... when Samsung stops supporting SGS2 I will get a "phone after live" using Cyanogenmod for sure
2.3.7..
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ChongoDroid said:
2.3.7..
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9.9.9..
not gtalk with video call will be available for samsung galxy s2 until ice cream sandwich ...news leaked from singapore
qwerty warrior said:
why do u even want 2.3.6
2.3.4 fixed a lot of issues people had with battery life etc + google talk video support )
2.3.5
Brought improved network performance for the Nexus S 4G, among other fixes and improvements.
Fixed bluetooth bug on Samsung Galaxy S
Improved Gmail application
2.3.6
Voice search bug fixed.
... yay ?
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wisllykinki said:
not gtalk with video call will be available for samsung galxy s2 until ice cream sandwich ...news leaked from singapore
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Whu?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283352
I advice you, if you want a stock rom, flash XWKJ3 2.3.5, is the best firmware for SGS2..
you can find also the individual CSC..
Visit this page
Hi
Today I got the upgrade to 2.3.6 by Kies
TOLUR33 said:
Hi
Today I got the upgrade to 2.3.6 by Kies
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seriously?
I can has Intratech thread postage of it?
Right now I'm on KI8 2.3.5 Sammy stock and happycat hopping to Oxygen AOSP 2.3.7 every now and then (but mostly 'cause it's pretty vanilla AOSP, I like that, but still won't miss the Sammy extras).
Screenshot after update
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/sc20111124095701.png/
Mittaa said:
Yahhh ??? ... when I read about SGS2 Cyanogenmod 7.1 "stable" version ... many reports about bug here and there!!!
So for me latest official SGS2 ROM is really stable and I'm happy about TouchWiz
But ... when Samsung stops supporting SGS2 I will get a "phone after live" using Cyanogenmod for sure
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The CM nightlies are more stable than the 'stable version'.

[Q] Which is Better GB or ICS?

Hello,
I have Samsung Galaxy S2 having Gingerbread FIrmware XXKG3
i m new to android. i want to know is ICS is better then Gingerbread,
if yes, can any1 provide me official latest firmware of ICS which doesnt contacin any bugs.
i saw in some forum that some negative review abt camera n bettery life in ICS, please clear me that ICS is better option or GB.
and please give me Latest Official ICS firmware which doesnt contain any bugs for my Galaxy S2
thankyou
Froyo pawns them both!
There is NO official ICS. Like the rest of the world we have to wait until this is officially available.
Expermiment with the beta's if you like but MAKE SURE you READ everything and know how to get out of sticky situations.
Stick with GB.
GB works ICS works in parts .
But ICS is beloved of noobs that dont have a clue and choose to flash a buggy beta test rom as their first ever flash and then cry help .
Their is no official only leaked buggy beta test builds and some custom roms based on that leak . Easy to find just search the forum .
jje
Palm OS. 10 c
For now GB is better but when offical ics arrives it will be way more better
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[Q] About installing a rom in a non european country

Hi.
I want to install a custom rom... lets say Cyanogen mod. This rom is european (i think) so i supposed the modem or whatever it is, It's different from one of South America. So when flashing would it ruin 3g and calls or something?
No your baseband will be just the same i believe you will not have any problem but lets say you want cyanogen mod before flashing go to dev post and ask him if that C.rom will change the baseband or if is there anyother problem!
At most you will have to input APN settings yourself
Actually i was thinkin in installing Stock Lite v6 on my galaxy ace. So i just backup my apn settings and just flash.. I'll try i. Thanks
I have v5 on my own and im really satysfied! and since the dev from that rom will release a v7 soon i will not flash v6
I'll wait a bit longuer
Good flashing!
Any question's or problem's just PM me
I wont release v7 soon. I always make sure that any update I release isnt a minor update. 3 major updates already. I want the 4th one to be major too. So, I will release v7 after I make some really awesome changes \m/
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I installed it before reading the answers lol. Everything went ok. I did for the battery. Haven't seen much difference yet i guess it takes some charges and discharges after calibrating. But in general it's faster than stock rom.

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