Occasionally I leave my phone laying around or let other people play with it, but it's getting very tedious having to lock it all the time. Anyone up for creating a app that will let me lock certain portions/apps on the phone (ie. SMS, gallery, etc.) using the built in finger print scanner?
I will second this. I recall reading that Moto was going to release the APIs for the print scanner. That should make it considerably easier.
just a bump, I know all you great minds out there are capable of this and want this too =)
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+1 yes, yes, yes a needed app
Yes, yes, YES! I've been thinking about requesting something like this for a while now!
I emailed the developer of Widget Locker since he seems to be fiddling with the Finger Print Scanner on the Atrix to see if he's interested in making a separate app for this. I wouldn't mind paying something like $1 for it.
How can we get this thread more attention from developers on XDA?
Keep the thread bumped, add some other keywords such a biometric scanner, fingerprints, fingerprint scanner, etc. (I myself didn't find this when searching), post the same on other forums, that's all you can do really!
PiTT said:
I emailed the developer of Widget Locker since he seems to be fiddling with the Finger Print Scanner on the Atrix to see if he's interested in making a separate app for this.
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And here I am! (Sorry for taking some time to get back to this)
What I'm doing from WidgetLocker is piggy backing on the system security, so I don't interface with the fingerprint scanner directly. However I have looked into this as it could be interesting for WidgetLocker to be able to use in more ways, and potentially another separate app like discussed here.
I've seen the other thread about the password keeper and this one about an app-lock type thing. The issue with a password keeper is that the passwords should be stored encrypted, otherwise if someone stole your phone they'd just need to root if (if it's not already) and they'd be able to get all your password. But encrypting the passwords with a key that's stored somewhere is really just adding a few extra steps, they're not truly protected. Normally they'd be encrypted with your password, and only decryptable with you typing the password again. But I don't think this could be done for the fingerprint scanner due to what information is available (And how the fingerprint information is stored on disk). I could be wrong however.
As for the app-locker thing, there are also security issues here, but I think app-lockers are more used as a deterrent than as real security. To lock out your friend rather than a thief. But there's a fair amount of non-fingerprint related work to be done for this kind of app as well.
If I do end up doing anything with it I'll post back.
I said this in the development section when it was released lol. So....+1 and good idea!
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And here I am! (Sorry for taking some time to get back to this)
What I'm doing from WidgetLocker is piggy backing on the system security, so I don't interface with the fingerprint scanner directly. However I have looked into this as it could be interesting for WidgetLocker to be able to use in more ways, and potentially another separate app like discussed here.
I've seen the other thread about the password keeper and this one about an app-lock type thing. The issue with a password keeper is that the passwords should be stored encrypted, otherwise if someone stole your phone they'd just need to root if (if it's not already) and they'd be able to get all your password. But encrypting the passwords with a key that's stored somewhere is really just adding a few extra steps, they're not truly protected. Normally they'd be encrypted with your password, and only decryptable with you typing the password again. But I don't think this could be done for the fingerprint scanner due to what information is available (And how the fingerprint information is stored on disk). I could be wrong however.
As for the app-locker thing, there are also security issues here, but I think app-lockers are more used as a deterrent than as real security. To lock out your friend rather than a thief. But there's a fair amount of non-fingerprint related work to be done for this kind of app as well.
If I do end up doing anything with it I'll post back.
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my reasoning behind this type of app as you said isn't for REAL security from a thief, more of a deterrent from people around me....such as a nosy friend or girlfriend =)
"such as a nosy"
Well, of course cell phones have had a way to prevent that for what, 20+ years now? You leave it locked, except for "emergency and speed dial" or other restricted calling. No reason that someone has to borrow my cell phone (and deprive me of my phone!) while they're doing whatever with it.
I don't have any guilt about saying "Sure, you can make a call. But I need my phone with me."
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my reasoning behind this type of app as you said isn't for REAL security from a thief, more of a deterrent from people around me....such as a nosy friend or girlfriend =)
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Well, if you have a friend that would invade your privacy then they are not your friend. And if you have a girlfriend that doesn't trust you enough to respect your privacy then dump her. You can't have a relationship without trust.
There are already apps that let you lock particular applications. I hand my phone over to my 4-year-old all the time so she can play Fruit Ninja, so I keep my work email locked down. I guess it would be kind of cool if the app locking software took advantage of the Atrix's fingerprint scanner.
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Well, if you have a friend that would invade your privacy then they are not your friend. And if you have a girlfriend that doesn't trust you enough to respect your privacy then dump her. You can't have a relationship without trust.
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lol, I second this... She's obviously insecure.
And why are we assuming that it's the girlfriend that's untrustworthy? PiTT (no offense, all due respect) is the one with dirty little secrets on his phone.
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And why are we assuming that it's the girlfriend that's untrustworthy? PiTT (no offense, all due respect) is the one with dirty little secrets on his phone.
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Thanks =)
you guys are missing the point, it was just an example. Now back to the topic at hand.
I would love to be able to lock my phone using the finger print swype. This can't be to hard, could it?
jange said:
I would love to be able to lock my phone using the finger print swype. This can't be to hard, could it?
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I don't understand what you are asking here. If you're going to be swiping your finger over the sensor to lock it, wouldn't it be just as simple to just press the button? If you have the sensor lock enabled, it will be locked with access only being granted to your finger swipe.
GEESH!
Clearly some people on this thread don't understand what's going on here. So let me break it down....
It's not about "it's not a real friend if they invade your privacy".
It's not about "why not just lock the phone itself".
Maybe you have a family member, girlfriend, wife, or CHILD you want to be allowed to use your phone. This requires unlocking the phone itself.
Buuuut, you don't want them snooping in your email or for the dense folks who don't get it, you don't want a CHILD deleting your messages accidentally, replying inadvertently to a co-worker via email etc.
Or let's be real, you don't want your GF or wife to see the chic you've been bangin's nude photo in your phone.
So you want to FINGERPRINT LOCK specific apps, like TEXT, EMAIL, SKYPE, TANGO, FRING, ETC! That way your "guest" can use your phone, but can't use any other apps without your finger!
GEESH!
I'd really like to see phones with Windows-like login profiles. So I can have my profile, ADMIN, and my wife can have hers GUEST.
Anyway...I second/triple/quadruple the idea of a fingerprint reader app lock. Right now I use AppProtector, and I'm looking into a new app called simply LOCK or (App) Lock.
"Clearly some people on this thread don't understand what's going on here. So let me break it down....
........you don't want your GF or wife to see the chic you've been bangin's nude photo in your phone."
*grin* The premise of your post made me laugh hard.
On a real note, I think this kind of application would be awesome. I too use appprotector, and I used to use the fingerprint scanner, but it just became bothersome to use everytime I locked my phone and had to unlock it. I don't have anything to hide on my phone, but I do lock my "SU" folder that contains all of my root tools. I have a 12 yo at home, and she could very easily mess something up without knowing it. I think the idea of locking certains apps with the fingerprint scanner is a fantastic idea, and I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for it for sure.
Actually, a whole utility for the fingerprint scanner on the Atrix that allowed you to do multiple things with it would be great.
Like was posted previously, it would be nice to have guest accounts (for wife and child etc), and with a fingerprint swipe, they wouldn't even have to login..swipe and go.
A lot of people always question why I don't have any security measures in place after swiping my screen. I personally just don't see the benefit of typing in a password every single time I unlock, versus the risk of actually losing my phone.
I also feel that if the worst did happen, I could change my Gmail and Facebook passwords and that would basically cover all bases. In fact, all I'd have to do is revoke two-step authorization for Gmail and that would basically do it too. I don't have any financial information stored to the phone if I think about it (with exception of maybe Fandango).
One time, I found an non-password protected iPhone in a cab. There was no password lock on the phone, and we were able to return the phone to the owner by finding the last person he called. He happened to be with the person who picked up.
How do most people here feel about it?
It's really up to you. If you're comfortable with no password, just have a plan in case you lose it. Which, it sounds like you do. Also think about backing up things like pictures from time to time.
I use the face recognition feature. Works pretty well once you train it. And I have my name on the swipe screen before that, so maybe I'll get it back if someone I know finds it.
And, while I haven't tried it on this phone yet, Seekdroid is another option. Lets you remotely lock and wipe the phone from any web browser.
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A lot of people always question why I don't have any security measures in place after swiping my screen. I personally just don't see the benefit of typing in a password every single time I unlock, versus the risk of actually losing my phone.
I also feel that if the worst did happen, I could change my Gmail and Facebook passwords and that would basically cover all bases. In fact, all I'd have to do is revoke two-step authorization for Gmail and that would basically do it too. I don't have any financial information stored to the phone if I think about it (with exception of maybe Fandango).
One time, I found an non-password protected iPhone in a cab. There was no password lock on the phone, and we were able to return the phone to the owner by finding the last person he called. He happened to be with the person who picked up.
How do most people here feel about it?
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I prefer at-least a simple password. Also, under Security -> Owner information - I have a message for any potential finders of my phone: "If this phone is lost please email ma at [email protected]". That message scrolls across the screen even when locked.
So I've been wondering this for a long time, and can't really seem to find an answer.
Does enabling a lock screen password do ANYTHING to help protect the device from threats? Other than someone with physical access, obviously. Would it make installing malware or exploiting a security flaw any more difficult? Assume the device in question is not rooted, if that makes any difference.
Thanks guys.
Dont think it makes any difference.
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So I've been wondering this for a long time, and can't really seem to find an answer.
Does enabling a lock screen password do ANYTHING to help protect the device from threats? Other than someone with physical access, obviously. Would it make installing malware or exploiting a security flaw any more difficult? Assume the device in question is not rooted, if that makes any difference.
Thanks guys.
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lockscreen password is only for avoiding people to open our personal things but hackers can break it too by get remote access of your phone
Hi everyone, I'm a potential Mate20 Pro customer, but I need more information on the features:
1. Is it possible to temporarily disable the face unlock, similar to the iPhone X?
Here is how Apple implements mechanism to disable it: https://mic.com/articles/191653/heres-how-iphone-users-can-disable-face-id#.GFGUiwnJH
2. Is it possible to geolock Face Unlock, so it works in your own home, but is disabled in other places?
Thank you.
Anyone?
Not understanding why you'd do that. Probably just set screen lock delay in settings. I never had geolock
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Not understanding why you'd do that. Probably just set screen lock delay in settings. I never had geolock
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The reason is in the article I linked above: To protect yourself against anyone (such as a bad police officer) who might try to hold your phone up to your face to unlock without permission. Apple has a solution.
As for geolocks, some phones can already disable or downgrade their security when you are in a trusted zone. (My mom's old LG G4 from 2015 does this.) It would be nice to only allow face unlock in my own home or office.
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The reason is in the article I linked above: To protect yourself against anyone (such as a bad police officer) who might try to hold your phone up to your face to unlock without permission. Apple has a solution.
As for geolocks, some phones can already disable or downgrade their security when you are in a trusted zone. (My mom's old LG G4 from 2015 does this.) It would be nice to only allow face unlock in my own home or office.
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well for the "geolock" id expect it to need location and or wifi access. which if off wont allow it to work. 2nd, what are you tryingh to hide from cops lol
Dunno about geo locking (that might need a 3rd party app) but there is an option to require the eyes to be open.
Might be useful for those people living in such Police states that may infringe on your civil and constitutional rights as you simply need to keep your eyes shut
Unless that is the LEO is carrying matchsticks
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Actually now that I've woken up, if someone is that paranoid they're worried about a LEO holding the phone to the face to unlock then maybe they should just disable face and fingerprint unlock all together and only use a PIN with a very short screen off time
With smart unlock you can tell the phone to unlock without code or anything at certain places (ie at Home). Outside of that place you would need your PIN or password (if you chose one of these options). At home you would have no security for unlocking but I think it's the closest thing to what you want (if you want to beef up your security for certain apps you can chose a pin or face unlock for every single app so nobody could use them even if they got hold of your phone at home).
Hope that helps
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well for the "geolock" id expect it to need location and or wifi access. which if off wont allow it to work. 2nd, what are you tryingh to hide from cops lol
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I'm just security-conscious.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean anyone is actually chasing you! :silly:
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Might be useful for those people living in such Police states that may infringe on your civil and constitutional rights as you simply need to keep your eyes shut
[/COLOR]Actually now that I've woken up, if someone is that paranoid they're worried about a LEO holding the phone to the face to unlock then maybe they should just disable face and fingerprint unlock all together and only use a PIN with a very short screen off time
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In China, the police can just arrest anyone and hold them forever until they give up their phone PW. That's police states for you!
Here in the Western world, PIN unlocks often have different legal protections than biometric unlocks, hence Apple's solution. But you do have a point about disabling Face / Fingerprint unlock.
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With smart unlock you can tell the phone to unlock without code or anything at certain places (ie at Home). Outside of that place you would need your PIN or password (if you chose one of these options). At home you would have no security for unlocking but I think it's the closest thing to what you want (if you want to beef up your security for certain apps you can chose a pin or face unlock for every single app so nobody could use them even if they got hold of your phone at home).
Hope that helps
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Thanks, this is helpful.
For Huawei go to secure lock settings and enable "Show lockdown button on power off screen", when you try to power off your phone there will be an extra option called lockdown when you select this your phone can only be unclocked by PIN (if you've set it)
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I'm just security-conscious.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean anyone is actually chasing you! :silly:
In China, the police can just arrest anyone and hold them forever until they give up their phone PW. That's police states for you!
Here in the Western world, PIN unlocks often have different legal protections than biometric unlocks, hence Apple's solution. But you do have a point about disabling Face / Fingerprint unlock.
Thanks, this is helpful.
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huawei offer privacy area in secuirty&privacy. use 2nd passoword enter privacy mode. told them your main password and hide your 2nd password. DO NOT BELIEVE IN MOVIES, YOU UNABLE TO RESIST TORTURE. this is right to protect yourself and your date. but in privacy mode use phone sim card 2. you keep sim card out.