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With the sim in my phone, I get the net on my phone.
If I put my sim into my tablet, I could get the net (if the touchpad had 3g).
But if I try to use the phone as a wifi hotspot, the carrier knows the data is being shared, and blocks it. How does it know?
Am now wondering whether any of the apps to share the connection - eg over Bluetooth - would be the same or not. Must try it out.
Find it very puzzling (until the carrier told me that I could share the data connection over a wifi hotspot on my phone... if I agreed to pay them more money)...
apologies, thought would be of interest to users, appreciate developers are above stuff like that..its why i posted in the general forum. i did search but didnt find the relevant thread. this isnt a very friendly forum for users, i have noticed a few threads that interest people being attacked.
What method are you using for mobile hotspot? Phone, ROM, app, etc.
so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
badfelafel said:
so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
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I have ran into problems using wifi tethering methods with Verizon in the US. When I tried to tether, I would get a page in the browser, on the device Im trying to get connection on, of verizon saying if you want to tether, you have to pay for it. Something along those lines. If the wildfire puts out an adhoc connection, most tethering apps wont show up on the TouchPad since it does not support that type of connection. The one app I have tried successfully is PDAnet in the play store. I have installed CM7 and CM9 on my phone and both built in option works with the TouchPad without the carrier noticing. Have you ever tried installing a different ROM on your phone. I dont know whats available for your phone.
EDIT: Sorry, If you're phone only goes up to froyo, I guess CM7 and CM9 are out of the question. But there may be others.
interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
badfelafel said:
interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
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Just know, you need two apps. "PdaNet Tablet" on the TouchPad and I forget the name of the app for the phone. I think it tells you on the tablet app when you start it.
EDIT: Just read you need the phone version of PdaNet or another app called Foxfi on your phone.
ace9988 said:
why do you click it and then decide to post what you have....its the general section. if you're solely interested in development then here's the link HP Touchpad Development
I'm not too sure how the carrier finds out, maybe larger number of data packets compared to data being received by the phone (regardless of desktop sites being requested).
I see that you're with Orange, and if they follow the same rules as T-mobile following their merger, then they don't fine you for going over your allowance, they just limit your usage to off peak hours....then a warning...then disconnection of your data service. Only phonecalls and texts.
I know this because I totally rinsed the allowance in 2 hours after my wifi went down and I had work related files to download.
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there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
chicle_11 said:
Don't you get tired of having your posts deleted for rude and insulting content? As a poster above mentioned, why don't you confine yourself to the development section? Probably because the devs won't put up with your behavior there. Please refrain yourself from posting rudely.
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while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
darkassain said:
there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
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Ah, there's something new i learned, mine was just a second guess
while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
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to be fair it could've belonged anywhere from wildfire to touchpad to just general android Q&A.....lets just be happy he didn't post it in development. I'd be thinking just as much as to where to post it, besides a touchpad solution might differ from other tablets seeing that it is a bit "unique"
I currently use "WiFi Tether" from the google play store on my "rooted" HTC to connect my Touchpad and dont have any issues with surfing.
But as darkassin mentioned, with some plans, after a certain amount of data used, you may or may not have your service slowed down. i have encounter this with downloaded nightly ROMS...I stopped doing that till i get home and use reg WiFi.
Enjoy.
Am on classicnerds here and a number of GB and ICS ROM's on a HTC phone. Hotspot works OK with laptop and TouchPad. Had to use the APN fix to get around the carrier blocking the tethering.
Focus should be over in your phone forum.
First, let me say I searched threads and forums looking for someone who had same problem and could not find any posting similar. The only one I found that similar was about the APN. I created a new APN using the settings I found in that thread, but it has not helped at all.
Got a pop-up/update message on phone yesterday about upgrading to ICS. I was running a stock HTC Amaze - not rooted - on Simple Mobile, and it was working great.
Upgraded phone to ICS OTA and love the new interface but having two problems, even after setting up the phone to run on the Simple network.
1. Phone is slow and will only run/display 2G whereas it used to be fast and say 4G.
2. Wifi tethering seems to be gone as it will not allow a tethered device to go to the page requested. (I have found threads about how to address this issue, so it is not a big concern like to 2g/4g speed issue.)
3. My android smiles are gone now......all I have are normal smiles. :-(
Any suggestions on what to do would be GREATLY appreciated.....
under mobile network settings, set your network mode to wcdma only.
I don't know much about the tethering issue, been on custom roms for a while, but apparently its a paid feature now. unlock your phone and install a custom rom, and you wont have that issue anymore
Could be a bad flash, though it doesn't really sound so, just sounds like they restricted a few things on other networks.
Fixed and working great....thanks sent to both who posted replies!!!!
Glad to see you got it fixed. If you don't get MMS, make sure you change your APN to the Simple Mobile APN. T-Mobile and Simple Mobile has slightly different APN settings.
Well i have recently tried using my samsung galaxy s3 hotspot and run into a problem.
i have t mobile i have 4g internet it is 2gb a month i have plenty left.
but when i goto use the hotspot my computer find its no problem but when i go and connect it gives me some bs about limited internet service and then relogs into my prevous network or just keeps me offline.
can anyone give me some tips on what the problem might be? thank you.
bump.
If your not rooted try,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi
If your rooted try
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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short answer. wifi tethering doesn't come on the 2gb plan. only 5gb or higher. so yeah. you'll have to find a way around that I guess.
tony yayo said:
short answer. wifi tethering doesn't come on the 2gb plan. only 5gb or higher. so yeah. you'll have to find a way around that I guess.
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Hes probably trying to find a way to tether without tmobile knowing.. Hes asking for "a way around that".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766155&page=5
Check out my reply to another post in the General forum. Use one of the Tethering Widgets to get you past the subscription alert messages. It has successfully worked for many people on different carriers. I used "Fattin's" Wifi Tether widget.
Is that a custom ROM with tethering enabled? The limited or no connectivity, yellow triangle, comes when you have successfully connected to the network, but don't have internet access... then in your case your computer decides to go back to a remembered network...
Make sure Wifi is off before you enable tethering, and sometimes you will have to connect and reconnect and few times, even give it a minute before the yellow triangle disappears... This is all contingent on your rom having tethering enabled, and you're trying to use the stock android tethering...
To keep it from autoconnecting to the different network, you'll have to remove that from the preferred networks list temporarily...
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
mac1845427 said:
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
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Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
baudilus said:
Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
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FoxFi is a free app in play store.
Duplicate thread ????
OP Please post questions in the correct section. Q&A for questions.
And please do not post duplicate threads on the same subject, allow user to respond to your initial thread, no need for multiple threads. Thank You. Thread Closed.
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
If someone can confirm a working way of doing this, I will provide them with file hosting and subdomain on my server, with full ftp access... etc. Thanks!
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Also, let me know if this is in the wrong section
I used the native tethering on SnowJB fairly heavily without issue and as far as I can tell it was never detected.
I was rooted and running various ROMs on my Samsung Infuse a few months ago, and I got an email saying they would add the tethering service to my plan if I continued to use it.
A couple years ago I had a jailbroken iPhone and tethered a lot of data and never had an issue.
I have not yet tried on the LGOG in fear of getting a $40/month service automatically added to my bill.
Sorry I don't have an answer, just sharing my experience I've encountered while tethering.
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Script said:
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
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avoiding detection would probably mean using a method that doesn't rewrite the TTL's on the outbound packets. I've used wifi-tether w/o issue as have many others, I'm sure. I suspect that wifi-tether doesn't preserve the TTL's, but people get away with it because the cost/benefit to carriers is to pick the top 1% of bandwidth users and examine their usage for good reason to stop them somehow, illegal tethering being a good convenient one.
I'm sorry I don't have a solution for you, as I've also searched for just such a thin and not found it. I am curious what others are doing for tethering on this device, though.
If used sparingly, you PROBABLY won't get caught. I used foxfi on my old phone on different occasions and never recieved any notifications about tethering.
jonasl (if you don't recognize the name, he is very good at what he does) had a post in the SnowJB thread a while back about fixing the tethering issues people were having. From what I understand of it, the tethering checks to see if AT&T customers have the entitlement to tether, but since this is a ported ROM, it isn't able to find out if you are entitled (the code doesn't exist to finish the check). His fix circumvents the check (which as he says "This will as a sideeffect also give you tethering even if you aren't paying for it").
I have implemented the fix in case I needed it, but have not had a need to tether since, so I can't vouch for it in that regard, I can say everything still works as expected.
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If you really want to avoid detection, you could run a socks proxy on your phone that forwards to another socks proxy on the internet. Then you need a way to use the socks proxy on your phone. On the client side it can be easy (web browsers have a socks proxy setting, and there are wrappers to socksify anything on your pc) or harder (if you're tethering a tablet or game console or something). Finally, you need a way to bring up both your wireless and mobile data connections at the same time - you could use wifi tether for this if you only need to tether wireless clients, or a more manual method if you need your phone to be a regular wifi client on your network.