Can the Photon 4G be used on AT&T or T-Mobile after unlocking the SIM card slot?
As far as whether or not the GSM radio is locked... no it isn't.
However, the software for the GSM radio is written in such a way that makes the phone "ignore" US based GSM carrier networks.
The TouchPro2, the last Smartphone world phone offering from sprint had this same implementation. It required a custom radio written to get around it.
So you are saying a rooted phone can actually use an AT&T sim or T-Mobile sim?
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So you are saying a rooted phone can actually use an AT&T sim or T-Mobile sim?
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Not really. Rooted just means you now have admin access to the phone basically, does nothing else.
What he is saying is that the software the controls the radio would have to be rewritten in order to accept US GSM networks.
Whats funny though, is that i went into a no CDMA coverage area 2 days ago, and I got a message on my Photon that asked if I wanted to use the available GSM networks. I allowed it and it roamed off of a GSM network...calls worked great, data was very slow.
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Whats funny though, is that i went into a no CDMA coverage area 2 days ago, and I got a message on my Photon that asked if I wanted to use the available GSM networks. I allowed it and it roamed off of a GSM network...calls worked great, data was very slow.
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Hmm wow, I didn't know that was an option. That's a great perk for the Photon.
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Whats funny though, is that i went into a no CDMA coverage area 2 days ago, and I got a message on my Photon that asked if I wanted to use the available GSM networks. I allowed it and it roamed off of a GSM network...calls worked great, data was very slow.
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You were in the US when you did this? If so what Sim card is in your phone? and do you have the phone roaming set to auto, because the default is any CDMA.
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You were in the US when you did this? If so what Sim card is in your phone? and do you have the phone roaming set to auto, because the default is any CDMA.
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Yes, actually in the west Michigan area. The SIM card is the standard that came with the phone. It was set to automatic when I got it, never actually looked at the roaming settings until I got that message.
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Yes, actually in the west Michigan area. The SIM card is the standard that came with the phone. It was set to automatic when I got it, never actually looked at the roaming settings until I got that message.
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Odd, like reddragon72, mine came with roaming settings set to CDMA only.
Based on your experience, though, I've changed mine to automatic, thanks for the tip.
interesting.
good to know
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Odd, like reddragon72, mine came with roaming settings set to CDMA only.
Based on your experience, though, I've changed mine to automatic, thanks for the tip.
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my pleasure, for me it just means im less likely to lose service or drop calls. which very useful. utilizing that feature greatly improves the coverage map.
I would check on this first. For one the roaming agreement that Sprint has is only with Verizon(CDMA). From what I gathered on Sprints website they do not mention who they are in agreement with on roaming in the US but CS told me Verizon is who I would be roaming on. So I would check your account for strange charges before you go crazy using GSM, but at any rate this is awesome info.
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I would check on this first. For one the roaming agreement that Sprint has is only with Verizon(CDMA). From what I gathered on Sprints website they do not mention who they are in agreement with on roaming in the US but CS told me Verizon is who I would be roaming on. So I would check your account for strange charges before you go crazy using GSM, but at any rate this is awesome info.
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Im looking into this as we speak, i actually work for Sprint as a repair tech. So i forwarded the info up to our rep. who is going to check on all this before i end up with overages. i will keep you posted...
Sprint used to have roaming agreements with AT&T, Dobson, Cellular One, etc back in the days of "Analog Roaming". I wonder if something here might be a legacy from that.
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Im looking into this as we speak, i actually work for Sprint as a repair tech. So i forwarded the info up to our rep. who is going to check on all this before i end up with overages. i will keep you posted...
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This item will put a definite buy in for me on this phone. I work in a fringe cellular area (CDMA and GSM), but the office just installed a GSM repeater for Blackberrys and GSM phones. If I could freely roam on the repeater I would have this phone asap.
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This item will put a definite buy in for me on this phone. I work in a fringe cellular area (CDMA and GSM), but the office just installed a GSM repeater for Blackberrys and GSM phones. If I could freely roam on the repeater I would have this phone asap.
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That sounds good, but remember if 50% of your calls are roaming three months in a row, or 50% out of 12 month average then they will cut your contract and cancel your account.
I put a working T-mobile SIM in my Photon today and it did not work. It appears that the unlocked status of the phone does not extend to US carriers. I would be interested to see how the included SIM behaves in Canada with Bell or Telus who are roaming partners for Sprint and have both CDMA EvDO Rev A and HSPA+ networks.
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if I buy in usa photon and took him to Italy, if I put a sim card of Italian telephone operator, the phone works?
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lodisax said:
if I buy in usa photon and took him to Italy, if I put a sim card of Italian telephone operator, the phone works?
thanks for the answer
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Yes, it should work fine on any international operator.
Mexico
I can confirm it works on 3G here in Mexico on telcel and movistar. Last night i got 5mb/1mb on telcel.
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Hey so does anybody know if there is a way to unlock the sim card or what ever is keeping the phone from using ATT bands for data roaming here in the states. Can unlocking the sim slot be used for this purpose or will a root or custom rom and or kernel be needed to acquire this?
Pretty sure you're gonna have to flash a custom radio for this.
The sim is unlocked, the GSM radio software forces the phone to ignore US based towers.
I'm willing to bet even if you use a custom radio that you'll end up paying roaming charges if you go onto AT&T. If they wont give their own customers unlimited data, they sure as hell won't give it us. I'm far more interested in forcing my phone to roam on verizon's towers.
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I'm willing to bet even if you use a custom radio that you'll end up paying roaming charges if you go onto AT&T. If they wont give their own customers unlimited data, they sure as hell won't give it us. I'm far more interested in forcing my phone to roam on verizon's towers.
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Even if the phone is SIM unlocked for North American carriers, I don't think it will be possible to roam on AT&T without an AT&T SIM. In other words, the SIM that came with the Photon won't work here in the US because AFAIK Sprint does not have any GSM roaming agreements in place. Sprint roams off of CDMA carriers like Verizon, Alltel, US Cellular etc.... If you can get rooted, maybe you can get Mr Greg's Roam Control app to work. That would allow you to force roaming on Verizon and you would not need to worry about SIM unlocking because that type of roaming doesn't use the SIM
Someone in another thread said that they roamed on GSM in the states. I think the thread is in the general section.
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Someone in another thread said that they roamed on GSM in the states. I think the thread is in the general section.
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They lied...
I'm not worried about roaming charges I work at sprint and get my plan free but if I were to put a ATT sim card in the photon and could use ATT I would have to have a ATT plan correct. Sorry this might seam silly questions but I really have no idea how sim cards work. Also has any one gotten the roam control app to work it worked great on my old epic to roam on verizon?
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I'm not worried about roaming charges I work at sprint and get my plan free but if I were to put a ATT sim card in the photon and could use ATT I would have to have a ATT plan correct. Sorry this might seam silly questions but I really have no idea how sim cards work. Also has any one gotten the roam control app to work it worked great on my old epic to roam on verizon?
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Yes if you put a Att sim in the phone that is attached to an active account it will need a $15 200mb smart phone data plan or higher to work for the internet if you disable data and use the sim without a data plan and you'll avoid the pay per use data charges if you have a messaging phone attached to the sim before hand with unlimited data and put it in the phone internet wont work, if it dose I'd check the plan attached to the sim card. You can do this by pressing *3282# or *data#
I've been making a few searches in hopes of finding a solution to this, but came out empty handed. I'm using a Photon 4G (stuck on Electrify 2.3.5) on GSM mode in Argentina. I'm unable to receive data no matter what settings i tinker with. I also tried setting up APNs to no avail.
Anyone has ideas on why this may be happening? Doesn't the Photon support 3G data over GSM worldwide?
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I think you officially have to call Sprint, ask them to remove your phone's SIM lock so you can use other SIM cards overseas, politely sit through their sermon about the dangers of using foreign SIM cards, repeat your request, and call back if necessary to get a more cooperative customer service representative.
From what I've read, all Photons are SIM-locked by default, but Sprint doesn't really fight if you ask them to unlock it for you. However, they MIGHT refuse to remove the SIM lock unless you either purchased the phone without a contract, purchased it used without an ESN-block, or purchased it with a contract 30+ days ago and have already paid your first bill post-purchase. I believe the FCC or FTC made it a law, but left them enough of a loophole so that you couldn't buy a subsidized Sprint phone on contract with a prepaid credit card, then leave the country and cancel the card.
I'm guessing that the inability to use data is because Sprint's SIM has data disabled while roaming by default, so they can make you sit through ANOTHER sermon listening to horror stories about Americans who used their phones in Canada and got hit with $1,000+ bills for a few hours of data use.
You can't totally blame sprint for the default Data block while roaming on their SIM... Android phones use lots of data in the background that most Americans never even notice (because we generally have unlimited data). Using the same phone with charges like 10c/kilobyte can get insanely expensive within just a few minutes.
Or, you could check out the GSM unlock thread somewhere around here. If you're already back in Argentina, it's probably easier. ;-)
Be VERY careful about reflashing a "GSM ROM", and MAKE SURE you've seen confirmation from at least one other user that it has been successfully flashed to a PHOTON -- not an Atrix, Atrix2, or Electrify. Flashing "alien" ROMs is playing with fire, and you can EASILY brick (soft or otherwise) your phone by blindly experimenting.
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I think you officially have to call Sprint, ask them to remove your phone's SIM lock so you can use other SIM cards overseas, politely sit through their sermon about the dangers of using foreign SIM cards, repeat your request, and call back if necessary to get a more cooperative customer service representative.
From what I've read, all Photons are SIM-locked by default, but Sprint doesn't really fight if you ask them to unlock it for you. However, they MIGHT refuse to remove the SIM lock unless you either purchased the phone without a contract, purchased it used without an ESN-block, or purchased it with a contract 30+ days ago and have already paid your first bill post-purchase. I believe the FCC or FTC made it a law, but left them enough of a loophole so that you couldn't buy a subsidized Sprint phone on contract with a prepaid credit card, then leave the country and cancel the card.
I'm guessing that the inability to use data is because Sprint's SIM has data disabled while roaming by default, so they can make you sit through ANOTHER sermon listening to horror stories about Americans who used their phones in Canada and got hit with $1,000+ bills for a few hours of data use.
You can't totally blame sprint for the default Data block while roaming on their SIM... Android phones use lots of data in the background that most Americans never even notice (because we generally have unlimited data). Using the same phone with charges like 10c/kilobyte can get insanely expensive within just a few minutes.
Or, you could check out the GSM unlock thread somewhere around here. If you're already back in Argentina, it's probably easier. ;-)
Be VERY careful about reflashing a "GSM ROM", and MAKE SURE you've seen confirmation from at least one other user that it has been successfully flashed to a PHOTON -- not an Atrix, Atrix2, or Electrify. Flashing "alien" ROMs is playing with fire, and you can EASILY brick (soft or otherwise) your phone by blindly experimenting.
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That's not the correct statement. I owned Photon and recently travel to Asia 2 times. The Photon work fine when I pop the prepaid SIM card in. The Photon came with Global GSM unlock. It's only lock the GSM on US Carriers. It's best to contact the provider of the GSM carrier he is using and ask to see if there are certain settings that need to be done.
Can you make voice call and SMS ? ( I see that you are on a Electrify 2.3.5.. don't know if that is an issue)
I just checked Argentina network. They do have 3G supporting 850 and 1900 frequency band. I advise to take the phone to the provider and ask them for help to set up the 3G network parameters if you do have voice and sms.
Try this link and look for the network provider that you are using in Argentina: They showed most of the settings for 2G/3G: http://nxwiki.blogspot.com/2011/08/movistar-gprs-mms-wap-settings-apn.html
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That's not the correct statement. I owned Photon and recently travel to Asia 2 times. The Photon work fine when I pop the prepaid SIM card in. The Photon came with Global GSM unlock. It's only lock the GSM on US Carriers. It's best to contact the provider of the GSM carrier he is using and ask to see if there are certain settings that need to be done.
Can you make voice call and SMS ? ( I see that you are on a Electrify 2.3.5.. don't know if that is an issue)
I just checked Argentina network. They do have 3G supporting 850 and 1900 frequency band. I advise to take the phone to the provider and ask them for help to set up the 3G network parameters if you do have voice and sms.
Try this link and look for the network provider that you are using in Argentina: They showed most of the settings for 2G/3G: http://nxwiki.blogspot.com/2011/08/movistar-gprs-mms-wap-settings-apn.html
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Thanks for your response. Yes, other than not receiving data, the phone works pretty much flawlessly: SMS and voice work just fine (wifi is a bit moody since it won't connect unless you go to the wi-fi settings and let it look at all your available networks, but I blame this issue on the ROM I'm sitting on).
I'll try APN settings again and see how it fairs. Thanks a bunch for your input guys.
Oh, and BTW, I bought my Photon through Ebay (my girlfriend brought it from New York where she was doing her MA), so I'm not expecting any kind of support from Sprint. Do they actually provide customer service to not-on contract phones?
Thanks again!
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Thanks for your response. Yes, other than not receiving data, the phone works pretty much flawlessly: SMS and voice work just fine (wifi is a bit moody since it won't connect unless you go to the wi-fi settings and let it look at all your available networks, but I blame this issue on the ROM I'm sitting on).
I'll try APN settings again and see how it fairs. Thanks a bunch for your input guys.
Oh, and BTW, I bought my Photon through Ebay (my girlfriend brought it from New York where she was doing her MA), so I'm not expecting any kind of support from Sprint. Do they actually provide customer service to not-on contract phones?
Thanks again!
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Even if you call Sprint. I do not think they will be able to help you. The phone is unlock and work with voice call. It's the network provision that's not allow you to connect with Argentina carriers. The best way is contact the Argentina carrier that you are using and ask them to provide or help to provision that for you. I was having difficulty connect to 3g in Vietnam when I was there (I was doing APN on my own and did not work) I have to contact the Vietnam carrier and they show me how to connect to 3g by using text message send to their server to initiate the automatic provisioning. I recommend that you do the same.
Success!
My stupid fault! I was entering outdated settings on the APN section, which is why it wasn't working before. I have now tried several settings and finally made 3G work! Thanks a million to everyone who contributed, especially roadster92.
For future reference (Claro 3G Argentina users), the configuration I used was the following one:
Connection Name: Claro 3G AR
Authentication: CHAP and PAP
Access Point (APN): gprs.claro.com.ar
UserName: hsdpa
Password: hsdpa
Cheers.
I just killed my Nexus and I'm not eligible for a discount with Verizon until 8/22. I'm looking at the S4, full price in my case, I guess (sigh!) Does anyone know if the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 comes with GSM unlocked? (I remember reading that the Verizon iPhone 5 does and can be used abroad by simply swapping a local SIM card.)
During my trial purchase on the Verizon website, it asked me if I wanted to keep the current SIM number (yes), and later if I wanted the phone implemented for worldwide GSM (do you think they mean through their own services, hence locked GSM, or open to any carrier abroad)?
Thanks for the input.
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I just killed my Nexus and I'm not eligible for a discount with Verizon until 8/22. I'm looking at the S4, full price in my case, I guess (sigh!) Does anyone know if the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 comes with GSM unlocked? (I remember reading that the Verizon iPhone 5 does and can be used abroad by simply swapping a local SIM card.)
During my trial purchase on the Verizon website, it asked me if I wanted to keep the current SIM number (yes), and later if I wanted the phone implemented for worldwide GSM (do you think they mean through their own services, hence locked GSM, or open to any carrier abroad)?
Thanks for the input.
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All you have to do is give them a call and let em know you will be traveling abroad, they will adjust your plan accordingly. I dunno if the S4 is global capable though, hardware wise.... Make sure you call them before using it abroad, failure to do so will most likely result in a massive roaming bill....
If you look on the hardware specs, it says its a Global Ready phone on Verizon's website. It has GSM also. I think it is possbile to put in a att SIM and go. Don't hold me to it though
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i do believe all verizon 4G LTE phones must come GSM unlocked out of box now, if im not mistaken.
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i do believe all verizon 4G LTE phones must come GSM unlocked out of box now, if im not mistaken.
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Yeah, I believe it's FCC required because of auction rules for the 700mhz band Verizon LTE is using.
That said, you may still need root to enable new APNs.
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Yeah, I believe it's FCC required because of auction rules for the 700mhz band Verizon LTE is using.
That said, you may still need root to enable new APNs.
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You needn't root，
it can support，GSM and wcdma carriers！！
i test a SIM card of China Unicom
it can edit APNS
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You needn't root，
it can support，GSM and wcdma carriers！！
i test a SIM card of China Unicom
it can edit APNS
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I appreciate if you show screenshot of APN setting. if possible also network screenshot.
For now all I know is you can get WorldWide plan from verizon and you basically will be paying to verizon but you will use that other carrier as an atena... Cool, but it's VERY EXPENSIVE. Calls internet everything. Is there a way to somewhat hack sgs 4 verizon to use it internationally without needing that stupid expensive plan.
The SiMs are very cheap and the phone plans are very cheap in Europe, sometimes it's even more profitable to buy an unlocked phone just to travel.
So, does anyone know yet how to hack it ? There was a way like that on SGS 3.
I upgraded on Verizon and then traveled to Europe on the same day. All was working well with Verizon in the US. I then put in a sim card I bought when I arrived, and it worked for calling as soon as it started (no changes required). The add apn setting was greyed out, but it worked anyway. I put in the appropriate apn settings and it now does mobile data, voice, and sms. I dont know about MMS, yet.
I did all this without root access, but I went ahead and did the root procedure this morning.
I have to go to another country in 2 weeks, and I may get a different sim. If so, I will update after that.
I do have a persistant warning in the status bar telling me I am using a non-Verizon sim, but no other ill effects.
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I upgraded on Verizon and then traveled to Europe on the same day. All was working well with Verizon in the US. I then put in a sim card I bought when I arrived, and it worked for calling as soon as it started (no changes required). The add apn setting was greyed out, but it worked anyway. I put in the appropriate apn settings and it now does mobile data, voice, and sms. I dont know about MMS, yet.
I did all this without root access, but I went ahead and did the root procedure this morning.
I have to go to another country in 2 weeks, and I may get a different sim. If so, I will update after that.
I do have a persistant warning in the status bar telling me I am using a non-Verizon sim, but no other ill effects.
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Hey, thanks for info. Are you using Verizons World Data plan ? If not, when you come back to US is it possible that you will get a pretty large bill for using outside of US ? What type of internet are you recieving, 3g, HSPA or maybe Edge ? What countries have you tried this in yet ?
Also where did you get the phone, pre order or in store?
Thank you, I'm asking so many questions because I really wanted to get an upgrade but I will be flying to Europe for this whole summer and I thought it wouldnt worth it right now.
No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hey, thanks for info. Are you using Verizons World Data plan ? If not, when you come back to US is it possible that you will get a pretty large bill for using outside of US ? What type of internet are you recieving, 3g, HSPA or maybe Edge ? What countries have you tried this in yet ?
Also where did you get the phone, pre order or in store?
Thank you, I'm asking so many questions because I really wanted to get an upgrade but I will be flying to Europe for this whole summer and I thought it wouldnt worth it right now.
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No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Did you buy your phone on contract ?
Yes. Upgraded on contract.
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verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe
maxyoda said:
No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hello, I saw your posts which were very helpful about verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe. I have a few more questions if you have time. On which operators and countries were you able to get 3g speeds with verizon s4. Thank you.
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maxyoda said:
No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hello, I saw your posts which were very helpful about verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe. I have a few more questions if you have time. On which operators and countries were you able to get 3g speeds with verizon s4. Thank you.
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I am asking because i need to know if it will work on a country where the 3g frequency is 2100mhz.
The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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Found this info over on s4gru:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
the One M9 was not tested, thus is not authorized for domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands. Rabid phone unlockers under the new Sprint domestic unlocking policy, consider yourselves forewarned.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
Vis a vis wireless, traveling to Canada has now become almost no different from traveling to the UK. You need a GSM/W-CDMA capable handset -- because Bell and Telus were basically asshats in preemptively ditching CDMA2000 for GSM/W-CDMA, circa 2008. My understanding is that the CDMA2000 network now is almost entirely shut down, and Sprint has removed CDMA1X/EV-DO roaming from its latest PRLs.
Regardless, if you care about RF capabilities in your flagship handset, do not take anything for granted. You should always read our FCC OET article before making a purchase. And we typically publish within a day or two of the FCC OET authorization going online, thus usually weeks before the handset hits stores.
I have to assume that you did not read our article on the HTC One M9. We devoted an entire paragraph to its lack of domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands (i.e. GSM 850/1900 and bands 2/4/5 W-CDMA).
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
AJ
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
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I would have to assume that no one on the planet aside from him and two other nerds read their article on the HTC M9. How many people read the dry ass articles of s4Gru? I used to be a member back when I was tracking LTE implementation for Sprint in Sacramento but I haven't looked back since. I don't like paying just to read a forum site about back hauls, transponders and flux capacitors. Sh!t I could barely suffer through the GSM/M-CDMA#4636#* in this thread.
Bummer the phone don't work in Canada though.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
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So it's HTC/Sprint's fault you didn't do your homework or think to ask them if the Sprint M9 variant could roam in a foreign country?
Sell the damn thing on swappa already.
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
kwolf said:
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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Damn thing won't even roam Data in NH, let alone Canada.
kwolf said:
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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I retract my comment - (though both OP and I are on S4GRU and have been for some time) - as I just got off a chat with Sprint Worldwide support where they said the M9 is an international phone entirely capable of roaming voice and data in Canada. I'm asking on S4GRU how Sprint can make that claim when OPs experience is obviously different.
Wondering if this is all related to the issues the phone is having with data in general...
It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
I am in Toronto now.
volk9029 said:
I am in Toronto now.
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I guess it's time to remove the confirmed tag then.
lol...I was in several countries in the Caribbean 10 days ago & roamed np...yes, not in Ca but verified WCDMA worked fine
So... not confirmed that there is no Canada roaming. That's a relief if it does actually work in Canada. I would not want to travel up there just to find out I can't use my phone.
volk9029 said:
It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
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This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
jkcarp94 said:
This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
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Yes, this is Sprint phone.
volk9029 said:
Yes, this is Sprint phone.
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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Yes, I was able to make and receive phone calls. I was also able to send and receive texts as well as use data.
m03sizlak said:
CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
Untrue. It can roam in Canada.
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kwolf said:
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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It can roam in Canada. Was just there.
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volk9029 said:
I am in Toronto now.
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I was also there two weeks ago. I meant to post back because I mentioned id be going there and I roamed perfectly fine.
So my lg v30 will connect to LTE on extremely rare cases, any other time it will not. I've been monitoring signal and events through Network Guru. According to it my LTE has a problem attaching. Whatever it is that means. So when it does connect to LTE and I move out of range of one tower, I get Tracking Area Update Failure. What could be causing this? How can I fix it. I've set the APN to the best of my ability, but currently I get message APN settings not available for this user. I can still add an APN and save it, but I have no idea if it actually saves cause I can't view the list of APNs. However even before this APN message I had these problems and I knew for a fact the APN was correct. Any help is appreciated!
What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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At&t
I am on lineage is
I am using google fi, but since is not fully fi featured its basicay T-Mobile
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At&t
I am on lineage is
I am using google fi, but since is not fully fi featured its basicay T-Mobile
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So you have H931 converted to US998 and then with Lineage custom ROM installed.
But you are limited to T-Mobile coverage.
Do you live in good T-Mobile area? For instance my mother doesn't. There's no T-Mobile towers near her.
If you are in a good T-Mobile area, you have two options:
1) Ask in Lineage custom ROM thread how to edit/create APN.
2) For test purposes, sign up for cheap T-Mobile MVNO like Mint to see if you get better "T-Mobile" LTE signal. You're only using T-Mobile anyway... First sign up and get "new" phone number just to get a Mint SIM card for test purposes. If you like it, then port your real phone number over and let the "test" phone account die (it's prepaid, so not much money).
Or any T-MOBILE MVNO which allows you to "Bring Your Own Phone".
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What variant do you have
What firmware are you on
What carrier are you using
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ChazzMatt said:
So you have H931 converted to US998 and then with Lineage custom ROM installed.
But you are limited to T-Mobile coverage.
Do you live in good T-Mobile area? For instance my mother doesn't. There's no T-Mobile towers near her.
If you are in a good T-Mobile area, you have two options:
1) Ask in Lineage custom ROM thread how to edit/create APN.
2) For test purposes, sign up for cheap T-Mobile MVNO like Mint to see if you get better "T-Mobile" LTE signal. You're only using T-Mobile anyway... First sign up and get "new" phone number just to get a Mint SIM card for test purposes. If you like it, then port you real phone number over.
Or any T-MOBILE MVNO which allows you to "Bring Your Own Phone".
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I have tried many different carriers, all the same no LTE but gsm/edge works fine. Today I got to my jobs workshop and LTE started working, but as soon as I got into the town I was working in I lost it, LTE attach failure, or Tracking update failure. I'll see what I can do on the APN side of things. But do you have any information as to why it could get LTE sometimes and then other times the LTE attach failure comes up? At this point I'm likely just gonna get a fi compatible phone (Edit: one that has the auto network switching, the v30 is supported just will only work on T-Mobile towers), but just for learning's sake I'd love to figure this out. I looked at the coverage map for T-Mobile and I appear to be in a good area, and both the shop and the town mentioned above seem to be as well. Its almost as if the phone struggles to switch between towers. (I'm no service expert)