hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
interested in this
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me too
maybe someone has a good link to the asus support?
oops, sorry
fpdragon said:
hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
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Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
tonyz3 said:
Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
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Bluetooth battery burn would be no problem since I want to load the battery over the car. Anyway... I'm afraid that there won't be something like a "bluetooth router" so I have to use the analog audio out. That brings me to my first question: I need the pinout of the asus connector to control the tab over the steering wheel control.
I don't think anyone's figured out a pinout yet, and even if they do, it wont be as simple as "this contact is for play, this one is for skip, etc". All those most likely go through a usb interface. Not that that would be impossible, but if you're using bluetooth your headunit should support AVRCP for sending those commands over bluetooth. Most android devices only support 1.0 right now, but that still gives you play/pause, stop, next, previous, maybe ff and rewind too.
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Android and the TF already support A2DP audio streaming and AVRCP remote control over bluetooth, there's nothing that needs to be done here. I'm pretty sure its only AVRCP 1.0 though, which only supports the basic controls (play, pause, stop, next, previous, etc). The newer versions also do things like metadata, so you can see on your headunit what song is playing.
I can say from experience that working with improving BT support in android is not easy after I spent a fair amount of time banging my head against the wall trying to add MAP support to CM7. In any case, without HC source it would be impossible to do here anyway.
fpdragon said:
Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
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I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
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I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
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Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
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Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
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Thanks Tor Your post...
Im Not sure hat this "deep sleep" is. is this the same like when i press the power button shortly on the tab or another power mode?
I have no dock and I wanted to save my money and not buy it.
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Hi all,
I've not got my Hermes variant yet, but would like to ask if anyone plans on using this device in the car for example; with the need to charge AND have audio out going to the car speakers.
Since there is only one connector for both charging and audio, is there some sort of 'Y' cable that 'separates' the two connections?
Thanks.
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
esackbauer said:
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
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Yes, I remember seeing that one...
I would have thought more people may have wanted such an adapter- but obviously not. This is something I would use in my car all the time.
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
To view and buy all Xda Brodit cradles and proclips, visit my site www.dsldevelopments.com
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You should really fix your site to work with Firefox. It gives the error
Code:
Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Library
The plug-in performed an illegal operation. You are strongly advised to restart Firefox
with Firefox 1.5.0.6 with Noscript 1.1.4.1
Well I think it may be your fault because I've never seen the error before and it is reproduceable.
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
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Would these parrot kits route the [musical] audio from my device to the car speakers then? I dont really need a BT carkit since I always have my personal BT handsfree on. My main requirements are those as listed in my original post.
Thanks Ill pass on the notes to the web guy, i use firefox and IE and works fine, is it the How it Works video?
No, it wont route music through your car, not that I have found yet,
You'd need it to support A2DP to play music too. As far as I know there's no headphone support only headset. At least it's only headset on mine.
The Parrot kits and the TyTn
To Bryson:
I have a CK 3000 that has worked fine with all of my phones. However, according to a different thread there seems unfortunately to be a problem with the Tytn and some (all?) of the Parrot kits.
Hi,
Ive yet to test parrot gear with a tytn / hermes etc - nhave you been over to the parrot forums to see if anyone has posted regarding this issue there?
Sorry i cant be of more help,
Bryson!
My parrot works sweelty with my Tytn and my Strtrk. I have the CK3000 unit too.
Y cable wanted!
I want a Y cable too!
Split into audio out, mic in, charge.
Preferably in a brodit carholder!
I'm sure someone can make this, now the phone is sold in Japan, lot's of japanese will want to use their own headsets, so I hope they will invent some nice cables
Im also looking for this same adaptor, so I can charge the device in the car while the adioo output can be used for satnav.
Anyone know of such an adaptor ? (Y cable)
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
grayhaze said:
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
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Ah nice one, I knew this would be something people would want. But why HTC couldn't integrate this on the device in the first place still baffles me!
This is only my humble opinion.
When I first knew that the TyTn, followed by the next coming other HTC's PPCs (Trinity. Artemis), would not have the regular audio port anymore (Regardless the size, 2.5 mm or 3.5 mm), I was thinking they must be really stupid by taking that away. Since my first PPC, I have been always plug the audio/sound to my car stereo for MP3 and phone calls.
Then I tried to think about the logic, why would they take it away, they must have reasons, being such a high tech company. The most logical reason I can think of, they might want to design a good car kit /desktop cradle for it. Thus, by combining the audio port and the USB sync/charging port, they can create a cradle/car kit that would only have one connector to the PPC, instead of two connections/jacks: the USB and the audio pin. That might be a good idea, same idea like the earlier versions of the PPC, like Wallaby that had the serial connector that can be used for synching, charging, GPS, and audio input/output as well, all in the same connector.
But looking at the connector they made, the one posted above in the expansys, I'm kind of LOL really. 2 USB output, one for power, one for audio? Ha ha ha..
They /any third party, should have design a car cradle and a desktop cradle that not only have a regular USB for sync/power, but also just map out also the audio output to a regular 3.5 mm normal audio connection. And that cradle will be really useful and I would think many ppl will buy it. And for a plus side, just add a GPS module in the same car cradle unit, than its perfect solution.
Just my humble opinion...
Yes, I agree with the above post, what we now need is for someone to design both a desktop and car cradle, where it would have the 11pin, to which one would dock the device and the 5 & 6 pin on the underside.
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
sh500 said:
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
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That means we'll also need an USB A<->B adaptor.... Hmmmmmm.......
I know someone was going to beat me putting the nookcolor as a car stereo if I didn't hurry to do it but much respect for the guy that did this first . I worked on my Nookcolor, installing it as a car stereo this weekend on my 2004 Gmc envoy and still modifying my dash to make it blend in. Running Nookie Froyo.Now to work on developing a car stereo app will be great with build in FM radio and visualizer and equalizer. I'm barely learning how to develop apps reading some books on android app development and Java to make my app come to life but I do not have a lot of time, with school and work one tends to get a bit frustrated and tired. I'm hoping some one can help me out with my idea of an app if its not yet on the works. I was inspired byAndroid and everyone here in the XDA community to try and make some great ideas come to life. Android 100% right here
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First video preview of set up running Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 sorry i recorded this at night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHQphUtmYs
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Until an actual interface adapter is made to bypass sound and volume control from the vehicle wiring to just a plain rca cable with 3.5mm Jack, I intend to use my tab as is. I will come up with new ideas tho.
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NOOKCOLOR Indash Stereo
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Test in dash v2.2
Rom: NookieFroyo 0.6.8(reverted to NookieFroyo for livewallpaper and video support since PhiremodCM7 does not have it yet)
Apps:
Pandora Radio
mVideoPlayer(im having issues with this app, sometimes video shows normally then next time video gets slow)
Button Savior(I replaced Softkeys with ButtonSavior)
Media Volume Bar Widget
WidgetLocker Lockscreen
ADWLauncher EX
Beautiful Widgets
Gauge Battery Widget
MortPlayer
PowerAMP
museek
StayAwake
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Test in dash v2.1(overclocked)
Still same as v2 just added a couple more apps to make feel a bit more like indash stereo.
Apps Added:
Stayawake(this works great so far on phiremodCM7 plug in USB cable and screen stays on, very stereo like feeling, better yet it dims out to save battery but still stays awake)
Last FM(working so far)
ADW Ex launcher
Miren browser(Browser of Choice)
Apps removed:
TuneIn radio(The app started giving me trouble and forcing close, worked for a while tho.)
Apps not working so far:
YouTube or flash( Flash and video playback does not work as stated before but I'm pretty sure it will soon. I tried watching transformers 2 to see how it looked and did not work on phiremod CM7 yet.)
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Test in dash v2
Changed Nook Rom to:
Phiremod CM7 (looks great very responsive, hotspot data connectivity way faster with my HTC EVO on 3g not on 4g. Will test on 4g to see how much faster it connects but no youtube)
Apps Using and still testing:
TuneIn Radio for local stations(since no bluetooth)
PowerAmp (using this app because has build in EQ and song can be change with finger swipe)
Pandora(running 100%)
MortPlayer (still sounds good but prefer PowerAmp because of the look and EQ ) "DSP Manger still doesnt work"
I still need to add volume and mute widgets.
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Test in dash v1
Nookie Froyo 6.7 (Did not test 6.8 yet)
Using PowerAmp app as main choice for stereo. It includes EQ settings.
MortPlayer Installed
Pandora Installed, works great if connected to phone hotspot.
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Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compatibility.
YouTube video compatibility.
Bluetooth compatibility if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compatibility to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
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I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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FM radio might be a dead end for you, I'm pretty sure hardware investigations revealed that the FM chip isn't equipped with a antenna or wired to the headphones for use as an antenna. Perhaps once bluetooth is working you could pair it with some sort of bluetooth radio?
Looks nice though, have you thought of applying a black theme to make look even more smooth with your car?
It sucks no FM. I'm hoping someone does get Bluetooth working FM and navigation would work with that, it would be great. A black theme would look nice, I'm still exploring a lot of things with the nook like cm7 and honeycomb see how everything would work with that. I did this as a prototype I say. Later on I might change the nookcolor for something else but same size. I still want to develop an app for car stereo and such for any tab. I know it wount be easy but nothing is impossible specially here in XDA
SuperHTCEvo
Syco54645 said:
I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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Its not that hard to do you just need time. Took me a whole Saturday to do this and I'm not done yet. Lol but seems to work and sounds great. I'm always open to suggestions and better ideas.
SuperHTCEvo
Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compability.
YouTube video compability.
Bluetooth compability if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compability to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
SuperHTCEvo
I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I was looking at carpc's also but found it to complecated to do at least for me but it works. When I saw Android tabs were available I saw the chance to do this. I had wanted to this with a galaxy tab but to pricey, but I found my self with the NookColor and once there was a way to rooted I came up with something ofcourse I know other people have put tabs as indash stereos its much easier to use than carpc but would be better with an actual car stereo app. If Bluetooth would work on the Nook we would have more useable stuff I hope someone gets it to work. I'm just trying to come up with something new. Right now I use my Evo 4G as my navigation device. But thanks for the support motivation helps a lot.
SuperHTCEvo
looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
any update on this?
as of right now, w/out using phone wifi hotspot - i don't see any purpose to this.
it has no line-in for using a media player with more storage.
once it's installed better, you won't have much access to swap out the microsd for updating your music.
there are no applications that compare to anything that a carpc can do.
i would much rather a standard in dash cd player then leave my nook in the car.
i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
xtravbx said:
i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
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Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
rudygetz said:
Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
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sorry didn't mean to be a downer. Just a crappy day at work and my bad mood is coming up, instead of being supportive.
Let's see what you can make happen with this!
Update Peeps!
Yea you can use a carpc and it can be better but it is just something new to try. You can use your phone but sound has no difference believe me I did a number of test and if your worried about leaving it in the car at night there is no problem it gets pitch dark you can even see it but the point is that you want something portable and cool, that is why i did this mod.
I updated to to Phiremod CM7 and let me tell you hotspot connectivity is way faster but youtube doesnt work. So far so good. Still testing it.
Since. No! Bluetooth im using TuneIn Radio App and works nice on Phiremod CM7 with my HTC Evo hotspot on 3G Not on 4G so it can be much faster but will try.
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looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
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Lol my does not shake. I have two 12" Kickers with a 700w pioneer amp. It pounds but the Nook stays intact. Well at least with my dock.
Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
Xephik said:
Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
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O that's right I never mentioned what I did for power management. I use to have a Kenwood double din stereo with 6.5" screen but took that off. I had to cut and trim in order to put my dock were the stereo was. I used the nookcolor leather case and cur it, I was going to make a dock myself like the way the HTC Evo car dock is but I just wanted to try this like this first. Then I went and bought me a cheaper stereo. The stereo I put it in the passenger compartment box that's y you don't see it on the pics, it is hidden. I modified my compartment box also, I had to cut and trim the back of it to run cables out and to make space for a small computer fan for the the heat of the stereo to be exhausted out. When I dock my Nook I just plug my 3.5mm headphone Jack and USB charger. I'm still trying to modify the connector of the USB charger, I don't like the cable just hanging there. But works great so far.
SuperHTCEvo
Since DSP manegers EQ does not work I'm going to try and see if the new LifeVibes app works later on.
SuperHTCEvo
what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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Thanks for the complement.
Before I did the mod I went looking on eBay for case holders but none of them looked as durable as the original NookColor leather case holder, so I bought the the leather case holder for the NookColor it was pricey but I took a chance and used it to incorporate it to my dash. What I did was cut the holder and just use that as the mount dock. So far it has been working really good throughout bumbs and speedhumps it stays intact in its mount holder. I'm still thinking of changing it tho to a better looking angle or adding angle adjustments.
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I imagine if done well such a mod would be an excellent complement to any dash while garnering many compliments from passengers (even would be thieves).
Does anyone have any experience/recommendations for an Android-based car stereo head unit? My old stereo has just died, so I am interested in what people think of the currently available ones. I have a double din space.
eBay seems to have several available that are similar to this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/ca-fi-is-an-aftermarket-android-car-stereo-that-wont-fit-in-you/
There are ones where the Android part is essentially a separate tablet (probably not what I'm after, judging by the videos) http://www.erisin.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=253
Parrot make this single-din stereo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Parrot-Aste...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343930713&sr=1-24
There are no doubt many others too. Prices seem to be in the £200 - £280 range which is about my limit.
Nobody has any experience of these or opinions at all?
I think I'm leaning towards the Parrot as it's rootable, and the single-din size is more likely to fit whatever car I get after my current one.
Bump for this thread. I just recently thought about getting into one of these units too, my only concern is how "locked down" they would be in terms of getting rid of their default launchers and crap they have. I basically want a way to just have android by itself running on the car - I can get apps for just about everything else. Ideally I want a clone of my phone on the car that would sync with my phone. Or better yet, simply a way to have a "remote display" for my phone. That way, anything I'm doing on the car side of things would be the same on my phone, like a received email, new internet bookmark, or something like that.
~T.J.
I just picked up a "Road Cyberman" from China Jiaho (actually they call it something else, but it's the same as Chinavasion's Road Cyberman, except $100 cheaper).
It's running Gingerbread 2.3.5 and proving difficult to root. No adb on the usb (even with debug option), no google apps (although I found some apks that sort of work) and no adb wireless available.
The devices works fine, but I would like to have a little bit more control over it.
I've tried Gingerbreak and the other get root apks, but no luck so far.
Yeah, I have seen a lot of those units, but I kind of changed my mind. I have recently been looking into doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q-UXDi3dm3U
I have been following that company for a while, and they just recently released that video and are taking pre-orders for the new board. My biggest hold up at this point is that I would like to use a single DIN stereo for the "amp" by running the audio from their device into the aux input of my existing stereo. I need to find room to mount both the double DIN screen and a custom spot for the single DIN stereo I already have. I would then have the choice of using the stereo without plugging in the phone if I didn't want to for whatever reason. Alternatively, if I can find a good FM tuner app for my phone and a good customizable dock mode, I could eliminate the stock stereo and just run the inputs into a standard automotive 4 channel amp. This of course means you get nothing for a car stereo unless you connect the phone though, unlike the other plan.
Of course, another thought I had was getting a used double DIN touch screen DVD player and using their interface board to convert it to run the Android screen through it, then run the audio straight into the aux input of the touch screen DVD player. That way you have the ability to use the system "as is" out of the box, OR run the Android device through the screen. I think this is the best option, but it also takes the most money since you have the expense of the used double DIN touch screen unit first. I also wonder about picture quality and touch screen sensitivity with the built in touch screens on those units.
Anyway, just food for thought!
~T.J.
EDIT: One of the other hold ups is the calling. I would like to use an external mic and have audio come through the car speakers, currently using that board you are still calling through the device, thus you would need a Bluetooth headset from my understanding. I would like to avoid that if possible also. This is another good reason to go with the double DIN stereo since some of those support Bluetooth calling already and you could probably make/receive calls that way completely hands free.
EDIT #2: If you were into car monitoring and such also, you could easily get a bluetooth OBD interface and run the software on the phone (such as torque) so you could display live data from your car on your dash also. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-ZvTn3fLo&t=45s
I picked up one of these after my buddy sent me this thread. It's got the power, but needs a root bad. Wish I knew how to find root for an Android device.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17228
Just curious if anyone knows if the touch-display functionality on the atrix will work with HDMI mirroring when connected to a touch-sensitive external display?
Curious as I'm contemplating getting one to setup in my car in the center console, idea is to replace a display in my center console with a touch-sensitive one and run 1x HDMI & 1x USB cable into my arm rest storage area where the phone can reside.
Would be nice if it worked, I could have android on a larger display in the car, internet, navigation .. etc etc... seen guys do this with some tablets but I'd like to see if I could run it off the Atrix.. could even wire the audio to an 'Aux Input' on the back of my radio and use the phone to play music on my car's system.
Similar idea to the padfone concept, just different application.
Just don't know if the touch-screen functionality is native when its connected over HDMI or not, anyone ever messed with it?
I suppose with webtop it may be possible, especially if you have ubuntu or debian, as for hdmi mirroring I wouldn't think so... and if there were calibration software you wouldn't be able to run it on android... So I would say you could try and that it is theoretically possible. Though I don't have a touchscreen to test it with...
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Just curious if anyone knows if the touch-display functionality on the atrix will work with HDMI mirroring when connected to a touch-sensitive external display?
Curious as I'm contemplating getting one to setup in my car in the center console, idea is to replace a display in my center console with a touch-sensitive one and run 1x HDMI & 1x USB cable into my arm rest storage area where the phone can reside.
Would be nice if it worked, I could have android on a larger display in the car, internet, navigation .. etc etc... seen guys do this with some tablets but I'd like to see if I could run it off the Atrix.. could even wire the audio to an 'Aux Input' on the back of my radio and use the phone to play music on my car's system.
Similar idea to the padfone concept, just different application.
Just don't know if the touch-screen functionality is native when its connected over HDMI or not, anyone ever messed with it?
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Check the dev section. There is a guy working on that exact concept.
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Check the dev section. There is a guy working on that exact concept.
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Found it, thanks.
can you link me to this thread ? I can't find it :crying:
This may be such an unusual use case that it hasn't been an issue for anyone other than me, but here's to hoping for a solution...
I've just bought a new car (2015 Honda Fit) which has a decent size LCD panel in the dash (but I opted not to get the expensive navigation system) and which also has full bluetooth integration and, surprisingly, an HDMI port for the screen. HDMI is one of the "source" settings, and Bluetooth is a separate one.
I've paired my Nexus 5 to the car in order to take and make phone calls and get the other integration features such as music and podcast playback over the car's audio. I had this idea that if I were to run the Nexus 5 through the large screen using HDMI (via a Slimport adapter), I can have a much nicer Google Maps based navigation system that would give something close enough to the experience of the in-dash nav system minus the touchscreen -- which is fine, as I can set the route, put the phone in a cupholder, and not bother with it again.
Now, here's the fatal snag. While the phone is paired to bluetooth, it insists on sending 100% of its audio through Bluetooth and doesn't send it through HDMI. The car is either-or on the sources. If it's on HDMI, it only plays back HDMI. The screen displays exactly as I hoped -- but no audio at all (again, it's going to Bluetooth). Now, I can switch over to Bluetooth and hear the sound but not get the display. I could kill the pairing to get both through HDMI, but now I lose the ability to receive calls over bluetooth with the handy steering wheel call answering and all of the amenities associated with that.
I'm wondering if there is some kind of workaround -- Android configuration that I've somehow never noticed, or a third party app -- which will allow the Nexus 5 to remain paired and actively Bluetooth connected while still sending audio through the HDMI port (Slimport). I don't see that this would as likely be a car-side solution.
The Nexus 5 is rooted stock 4.3.3.
Thank you in advance for help toward a solution.
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This may be such an unusual use case that it hasn't been an issue for anyone other than me, but here's to hoping for a solution...
I've just bought a new car (2015 Honda Fit) which has a decent size LCD panel in the dash (but I opted not to get the expensive navigation system) and which also has full bluetooth integration and, surprisingly, an HDMI port for the screen. HDMI is one of the "source" settings, and Bluetooth is a separate one.
I've paired my Nexus 5 to the car in order to take and make phone calls and get the other integration features such as music and podcast playback over the car's audio. I had this idea that if I were to run the Nexus 5 through the large screen using HDMI (via a Slimport adapter), I can have a much nicer Google Maps based navigation system that would give something close enough to the experience of the in-dash nav system minus the touchscreen -- which is fine, as I can set the route, put the phone in a cupholder, and not bother with it again.
Now, here's the fatal snag. While the phone is paired to bluetooth, it insists on sending 100% of its audio through Bluetooth and doesn't send it through HDMI. The car is either-or on the sources. If it's on HDMI, it only plays back HDMI. The screen displays exactly as I hoped -- but no audio at all (again, it's going to Bluetooth). Now, I can switch over to Bluetooth and hear the sound but not get the display. I could kill the pairing to get both through HDMI, but now I lose the ability to receive calls over bluetooth with the handy steering wheel call answering and all of the amenities associated with that.
I'm wondering if there is some kind of workaround -- Android configuration that I've somehow never noticed, or a third party app -- which will allow the Nexus 5 to remain paired and actively Bluetooth connected while still sending audio through the HDMI port (Slimport). I don't see that this would as likely be a car-side solution.
The Nexus 5 is rooted stock 4.3.3.
Thank you in advance for help toward a solution.
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I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
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I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
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This behavior of the HDMI port / display actually became a far bigger problem than how to route the sound. I had been doing all of my testing with the car sitting in the garage, and because I wasn't ever able to get the sound to do what I needed, I didn't bother to go drive around with HDMI display enabled. I confirmed through this and consulting the manual that for "safety reasons" they have entirely disabled the HDMI input while the car is not in park. Unfortunately, I'd guess this is coded in the system's firmware which most of us aren't going to have a way to tamper with, so this is a fatal problem for what we're both looking to do. I was confident that there was probably some sort of solution to making audio go over both channels, but that's irrelevant in light of this problem.
So to summarize, I'll suggest not bothering with the Slimport (or the other kind of interface, if that's what your phone uses) because it will certainly be utterly useless for this and I don't foresee a solution. It looks like this thread is therefore dead. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, though -- I'd have continued working toward an audio solution and then discovered this bigger problem once I solved that one. You just saved me from wasting a lot of time.
samseed101 said:
I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
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One more thought (stating the obvious, I suppose) -- We've been hamstrung by the assumption that everyone is going to be using the display to watch movies while driving, even though we have excellent reasons which would actually make it safer (an easier to see navigation display). I guess Honda is mitigating lawsuits from the would-be idiots who might actually be watching American Idol episodes while driving to work.