How does one do that if it's possible at all?
I'd like to have, say, Opera, stay open until I close it.
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dont use advanced task killer, or any task killer for that matter.
i would also like to know if this is possible. i would like to keep widgetlocker and 3G watch dog open at all times but when ever i use task manager to clear the memory, it closes both of them.
Dont use a task killer or manager but if you do normally they have a whitelist in settings so you can check any apps that you want to be left out of the task killer so they stay open.also can be called an "ignore list" too.if you go into settings you should see something that will be called whitelist or ignore list depending of course on what task manager you have as they are not all the same.check the apps that you want to be left alone and save.the next time you manually or automatically kill your apps the ones you have checked will not be touched.
unfortunately, the OOM built into android may close ANY app eventually, depending on the amount of available memory you have. the only real way to prevent it is to adjust the oom grouping and priorities of said app(s), also known as bullet proofing.
i would pm zeppelinrox regarding this, as he developed the v6 supercharger and has vast experience with this subject.
if u make sure u have enough free memory, then no application will be closed. If u have any application killer software then make sure to exclude the application from that software
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Hi,
When i kill all the running applications on my Experia X10 mini pro using Advanced Task Killer, it sometimes makes me reenter my pin. I've found that this is caused by killing "Backup & Restore". So i want to add this to my ignore list, but it's not in my list of running apps.
Is there a way to add apps to the ignore list, if they are not currently running? Or is there a way to force this to be running?
I'm running stock everything, straight out of the box.
You don't have to auto-kill. In fact you shouldn't with 2.1. Android will auto-kill if it needs more memory for apps you launch.
I just use advanced task killer to selectively kill running apps if I need them to die.
Having said that, advanced task killer does have auto-kill functionality and an ignore list to do what you're asking.
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You don't have to auto-kill. In fact you shouldn't with 2.1. Android will auto-kill if it needs more memory for apps you launch.
I just use advanced task killer to selectively kill running apps if I need them to die.
Having said that, advanced task killer does have auto-kill functionality and an ignore list to do what you're asking.
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This phone has android 1.6. Also, I like my batterylife, so i regularly manually kill all open apps.
I know it has an ignore list to do what i want, but the problem lies in getting this app on the ignore list. Most of the time, it's not listed in ATK.
I have never had the need to auto kill anything since android 1.5. The only time there really is a need to kill something is if it hangs or leaks memory (in the later case you really should contact the developer of the app).
Most of the times if you auto kill everything it gets started directly due to schedule or service. Give it a try for a week without using any atk and you will probably see an improvement.
what is the best working auto task killer? I have tried several and now using advanced task killer but there is always some apps. that keeps on running and autostarting (market, settings etc...)
The best auto killer is to NOT use one. Let Android itself handle memory management.
Take a look here:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894
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The best auto killer is to NOT use one. Let Android itself handle memory management.
Take a look here:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894
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I tried this for a few days but I still think we need some sort of auto task killer for at least selected applications. I don't know any other way to close opera mobile and some other applications then with task killer, and if I leave then in the background phone becomes very laggy.
now i get it...i'll have watchdog ^^
I have kinda nooby question... i am using a phone with stock gingerbread and i am using an advanced task killer. I know a lot of people say that I shouldn't do it, but it just makes my phone a lot faster and smoother. As a noob, i have one question: is task killer really harmful to my phone and is it better for me to not use it? If you say yes, please provide me some specific reason why. Thank you ask much guys!
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its not that bad... but u should not kill background services!
keep settings on safe... don't use aggressive mode
applications u know u use often for example- browser or music player... u can add to excluded section... currently im using ZDBox and it works perfect... it also has additional features that you will need... hope this helps
I only use the ATK to kill an app that's not responding well.
For example, when I was using CM7, sometimes my Google Reader app would hang and display a loading symbol for a long time instead of displaying my articles, and the arrow that shows transmission over the network wasn't displaying so I knew it wasn't waiting on data, I would use ATK to kill ONLY Google Reader. Then I could go back into the app and it would load very quickly.
But since I switched to an ICS ROM, I haven't had that same issue and haven't had a need for ATK.
Also, do note that it does take processing power, and therefore battery power, when your phone decides to restart any of those apps you are killing, and it will restart apps.
For a great explanatory article, see here:
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/app...lers-still-dont-give-you-better-battery-life/
and also the links in the phrase "(see here, and here, and here)".
So in short, they are not exactly "harmful" but they don't provide any real benefit if you "kill everything, every time."
It is a common myth that more RAM = better performance, and this is a result of the market being dominated by Microsoft for so long. Android does not equal a desktop OS. Free RAM literally does nothing. In fact, it is wasteful to have bunch of free RAM. Android manages RAM very effectively and aggressively works to ensure that you have sufficient resources to do whatever it is you want to do. If you notice an increase in performance with a task killer, it is because you have a misbehaving app. Watchdog is the only task manager I would recommend, all it does is watch for apps that are using an abnormal amount of resources and alerts you. Part of the Android experience is the emulated multi-tasking, or having several apps saved to memory simultaneously to facilitate ease of switching between them. An app in the background will not affect the performance of your device, it is not using any resources. Aside from that, if you end a task, it will usually just start right up again, using more resources, because that is how Android is designed to work.
So, I would say finding the misbehaving app is a much better option than a task killer. They were important in eclair, maybe even FroYo. But anything above that they are unnecessary.
i dont really believe in android"s app managmentbut task killers make it only worst IMHO
I have to agree with member devator22.
Android is not Windows. Android is basically Linux and Linux is using a different memory management than Windows does. (Although Windows has got a lot of improvements during the last years)
RAM which isn't used, is wasted! That's a fact.
So, if you run a specific application, some of its data my be cached. Linux is reporting this as "buffered" (you can see the amount by running the 'top' command)
There might be a more or less big chance to hit this cache. If so, the data is loaded much faster ( definetly > 10 ) than if it had to be requested from the file system.
By killing your application by a task manger you are releasing this buffered resources (actually you are forcing the OS to release it). In the worst case you are wasting your advantage of loading already cached data from the RAM. In the best case you are gaining nothing because your device has to load it from the file system anyway.
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Get watchdog!
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Thank you so much for these replies! I really appreciate it! I decided to keep my task killer but not use it aggressively. I probably will use it to end apps that i really find it pointless. And also to the people who said android dies it's own task managing, you're right but wrong at the same time. When i didn't use my task killer, android did killed some apps in in order to launch more apps, but it left only like 10mb of 300mb, which i found little odd and also it mainly killed launchers which was very annoying.
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Task killer will speed up your phone if you know what you're doing. Only kill tasks that you are familiar with...e.g. apps that you know you have launched and won't be using anymore. Those apps running in the background can slow down your device.
If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
Guys, he's not saying he does it for the memory. He says the phone's smoother. I don't know whether this is true, but if there are background tasks performing operations that he doesn't want them to do, it's *absolutely appropriate* to kill them.
The flip side of that is that the applications will eventually be automatically started again, and that startup takes extra CPU time. As long as the process startup and process killing happens when the screen is off, I would think this could improve the responsiveness.
But I think on most people's phones, the background processes really don't use a lot of CPU...
I know by default even Gbs memory management isn't the best. The app priorities are a bit weird aand the launcher gets killed to easily. Running the v6 supercharger scripts and making the launcher hard to kill and fixing the priorities and changing the oom settings makes any from wicked fast
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Instead of killing an app over and over again install something like Gemini App Manager and disable the app's autostart permissions. For example, dropbox and dropbox sync are set to automatically start at boot or when there's a connectivity change. I understand why they're set to do that but for my purposes I only needed them to start when I actually used them.
Having said that, I no longer use Gemini and have never used an automatic task killer. I think android (ICS) does a good enough job managing it's memory that I don't need to be anal about micromanaging it myself. I think it also helps that I'm not an appaholic. I'm very picky about what I install and will only keep an app installed if I regularly use it.
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If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
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Built-In is much better
im on ics on my captivate and it runs beyond smooth
like stated before having free RAM with not do anything
android has a good way of muti tasking
Seems like many applications spring back up after "killing" them though the Android task manager or any of the task managers available in market. Is annoying the hell out of me. If im not using the app I dont want it to.run in the background..
I understand that messaging applications need to run in background but not all.
How do you guys make sure
that any application which you close "remains" closed until the next time you open it?
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You might try Gemini app manager to disable auto start apps
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Easy Task Killer can help too..
use Easy Battery Saver too along with it!
Thanks.for your replies guys. However.i believe the main question here is,.how.to.stop these background app processes from running until the next time I start them manually.
Problem with task managers is that they stop these apps after a certain interval. Once they do, the.apps restart after 2-5 seconds. And.remain there till the next interval of the task killer is reached. This in turn take up more memory a compared to keep the running.. In addition, these apps run in the background on their own taking up a junk of memory/processor space..
Thanks again for your replies. Please correct me.if my understanding is wrong and you are feel otherwise.
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Those "apps" that you say keep opening are actually the processes running in the background. I know of many apps that keep re-enabling their processes after killing them. (IE: Facebook, some Google stuff, and a couple games that run in real-time)
Best solution: try to go into the app's settings and see if there is an option to disable anything that would require a background service to run, IE: sync, updates... If not, then just stop killing that app. Ignore it in the list or set a task killer to ignore it. If the app keeps re-opening, you killing it all the time is only doing bad because it puts more stress on the operating system because it has to take the time to reinitialize the app/service. If you are really that anal about background running apps, set android to limit a lower amount of background apps to run.
Like asdot suggested above use Gemini App Manager to disable the apps autostart permissions. If an app is set to automatically start after a certain intent is broadcast by the system (ie, at boot, or at a change in connectivity, etc.) you can use Gemini to stop that app from automatically starting. You can stop an app from automatically running in the first place instead if trying to kill it after it has started.
Is there a task manager that'll kill apps and permanently kill tasks processes? I've noticed that some will kill the task then the task will automatically start back up again...
Looking for the best that'll actually purge the memory and all that.
You should never use a task killer. Android manages memory on its own. Killing tasks will only lead to instability.
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They say that but I've yet to ever see it happen! LMAO
I've seen "so called" task managers handle memory better than that this nonexistent invisible task manager android speaks of.
What are ya supposed to do when ya have 20 something app's running in the background, just leave them running and let this unknown task manager "supposedly" handle them...
How bout managing startup app's and what not? Furthermore if android has a built in task manager where is it and why isn't it working or why not make it better?
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They say that but I've yet to ever see it happen! LMAO
I've seen "so called" task managers handle memory better than that this nonexistent invisible task manager android speaks of.
What are ya supposed to do when ya have 20 something app's running in the background, just leave them running and let this unknown task manager "supposedly" handle them...
How bout managing startup app's and what not? Furthermore if android has a built in task manager where is it and why isn't it working or why not make it better?
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I'd suggest a little more reading on the subject.
If there's something you really don't want running then freezing or removing it is a more efficient alternative than repeatedly killing it only for it to restart over and over.
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I use All-In-One Toolbox. Yes, I use a task manager, I have been using it since I got my LG Optimus One. I have been a developer for 9 years on both windows and linux platforms. It is true that linux manages memory better than windows, therefor Android benefits from this being build on the linux kernel. The fact remains, an app that doesn't run, doesn't use memory. Applications on android behave much like applications do on Windows Mobile, the don't exit but remain in memory in order to have quicker start up times. Unfortunately, killing an up does cause to restart, but I have noticed from personal experience that in that case, since the UI haven't shown yet, it uses less memory. I have no problem waiting for an app to start up, as long as while it runs, it runs smoothly. For that reason I disable many apps from start up that I don't need to run on a day to day basis but only when I need the app. AIO Toolbox handles all of that, task killer with whitelist, start up management, file manager, apk backup and restore and a slew of features I hardly ever use.
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I'd suggest a little more reading on the subject.
If there's something you really don't want running then freezing or removing it is a more efficient alternative than repeatedly killing it only for it to restart over and over.
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What are some good articles on the subject then?
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I use All-In-One Toolbox. Yes, I use a task manager, I have been using it since I got my LG Optimus One. I have been a developer for 9 years on both windows and linux platforms. It is true that linux manages memory better than windows, therefor Android benefits from this being build on the linux kernel. The fact remains, an app that doesn't run, doesn't use memory. Applications on android behave much like applications do on Windows Mobile, the don't exit but remain in memory in order to have quicker start up times. Unfortunately, killing an up does cause to restart, but I have noticed from personal experience that in that case, since the UI haven't shown yet, it uses less memory. I have no problem waiting for an app to start up, as long as while it runs, it runs smoothly. For that reason I disable many apps from start up that I don't need to run on a day to day basis but only when I need the app. AIO Toolbox handles all of that, task killer with whitelist, start up management, file manager, apk backup and restore and a slew of features I hardly ever use.
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Yea I'm the same way when I used winmo I loved HTC CleanRAM, Pocket Mechanic and SKTools I really wish I could find a tool for android like SKTools, that was one powerful app. LoL
But I'm the same type of user you are it seems, right now it's at a toss up for me between Go Task Manager and ES Task Manager, but if anybody askes me for a good task manager to use I tell them ES Task Manager, cause it's startup list editor is a lot more newby user friendly telling ya whats safe to remove from the list and what isn't.