[Q] Internal SD, External SD and app2SD questions - G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)

Frogbone said:
I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)
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From what I understand, app2sd functionality is built into Froyo & beyond. No need for a separate app.
In laymans terms, your 16GB internal sd is split in 2, 2GB for apps & 14 gb for data.I have 88 apps installed & it is only using 492MB of the 2GB. Apps install to the 2GB area, but the (and the system) use the 14 GB data area for storage. You can also use this space for dat/files storage as well.
The external microsd slot is generally used by you for data storage. You can use it for what ever you like. I use mine to store copies of different roms/nvflash, movies/video/pictures & music transferred from the PC.

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[Q] Best way to move apps and games to external SD ?

Hi guys,
I have many Gameloft games and apps and I'm looking for the best way to move it to the external memory (I have a 32GB Class 10 MicroSD card).
Thanks
Try apps2SD from market.
Thanks, but it can only move apps from the phone memory to the internal sd and not from internal sd to external sd...
Did some one try this app by any chance ?
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0
liamR said:
Thanks, but it can only move apps from the phone memory to the internal sd and not from internal sd to external sd...
Did some one try this app by any chance ?
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0
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Hmm tried a few out but only can move to internal sd and not external there must be one.
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I can see 3 kinds of memory in my SGS2 (except from the 1Gb ram). Device memory (0.98GB used/0.98GB free), Internal SD card storage (11GB used/726MB free) and External SD card storage (my 32GB microsd card).
I want to move some of my apps that on my internal sd to the external sd... the apps2sd can only move apps from the device memory to the internal memory...
liamR said:
I can see 3 kinds of memory in my SGS2 (except from the 1Gb ram). Device memory (0.98GB used/0.98GB free), Internal SD card storage (11GB used/726MB free) and External SD card storage (my 32GB microsd card).
I want to move some of my apps that on my internal sd to the external sd... the apps2sd can only move apps from the device memory to the internal memory...
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Same here, i would like to do that as well unfortunately so far i couldnt find any answer to this issue yet.
so if Anyone knew please share
Thanks,
Drew

[Q] external_sd folder And external SD card

Hi all!
I have recently brought an 16GB External SD card for my SGSII, to store my Titanium Backups. I found the external_sd folder in the internal sd card, and thought that it was the External SD card, so i placed all my backups there. But just recently it seems like i have run out of space on the phone, so i can't update some of my apps. I started deleting a lot of photos and videos from my phone and cleared 2.5GB, but i still can't update some of my apps. I began looking through my folders, and noticed that i also have an External SD card partition on my phone. The same one i see when the phone is connected to the pc. In it i can see a Clockwork Recovery folder containing my ROM backups. So i began wondering if the external_sd folder is actually located on the phone and not in the External SD card. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
Thank you in advance!
/gammarik
As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
I'm running JB (Rootbox 3.2). I set the target path as /extSdCard/Titanium Backup in Preferences for it to work.
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Mr Anderson said:
As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
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So i should move my apps from the App reserved partition to the main storage partition? Or the external SD card? And how do i do that? Sorry for noob questions, i am not too much into how Android works
I don't think you can move apps to external SD card.
Go to settings -> applications and you'll see your apps listed with information about their size. Select one, and you should see a button "Move to SD card". If this is greyed out then the app doesn't support operation from the SD card, but for many you can press the button and it will move the app for you.
The interface in settings isn't the best - I use ZDBox which is a free utility tool available from the Play Store with several useful functions, including an improved "App to SD" UI which makes it easier to see what is going on.
Be careful with widget apps and others that interact with OS functionality as these often don't play happy if moved to SD card.
in your internal memory there is a folder call externel_sd ok leave it coz you still in your internal memory and go search your external sd card memory it named extSdCard or emmc
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
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1st internal is /data, 2nd internal is /storage/sdcard0 (your internal 11GB memory).

Swapping Internal and External SD Card?

See question. 2 and 9 gb of space is not cutting it for me with a lot of programs not allowing you to move stuff to the external sd card. Is there a way that works for the amaze to move data to the external sd card?
Diogenes5 said:
See question. 2 and 9 gb of space is not cutting it for me with a lot of programs not allowing you to move stuff to the external sd card. Is there a way that works for the amaze to move data to the external sd card?
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you can use almost any file manager with root premissons or not in order to move stuff from your internal storage to your sd card.. the only issue is you have to be careful of what you move because not every app will function properly if moved to external storage.. i think titanium backup also allows you to batch move apps to the phones internal storage (not system storage that's the 2gb)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
link2SD, move applications to SD card even if it doesn't allow to (it's built-in to ROMS for phones with smaler internal memory, like my low-end Optimus T with 150MB internal)
however, the speed of the SD card is generally slower than internal memory... just a small warning
another option would be the app 'gl to sd' (or something similar to that).
its free and its main use is to save the gameloft game data to your external sdcard. ive tried it and it works with the games. i do believe it'll allow you to move other app data as well.

[Q] 32GB external SD card only shows 1GB available

I have searched high and low for an answer to this but cannot seem to find one. I have recently rooted my NT to use CM 10 and everything appears to be working fine save one exception. I have an external SanDisk 32 GB class 4 card that I am using and it only shows 1GB available when it is installed in my NT. Here are the things I have tried without any luck.
** reformat SD card using SDFormatter.
** double check the partitioning using mini tool and verified that there is only one partition 32GB, FAT 32.
** put the SD card in my laptops SD card reader and I see that all 32 GB are available.
** put the SD card back in my NT and uses AppMgrIII to move the app to external SD, then ejected the SD and saw that the app was no longer available so I know what my NT is calling the SD is in fact my external SD card.
The only thing I have not tried is a new SD. Any clues?
EDIT:
One note, when I go into Settings --> Storage I see two sections marked internal storage and one SD card section.
Internal Storage 1
Total Space 3.97GB
Internal Storage 2
Total Space 29.71 GB (This is my external SD card)
SD Card
Total Space 1.00GB
Rhino1272 said:
I have searched high and low for an answer to this but cannot seem to find one. I have recently rooted my NT to use CM 10 and everything appears to be working fine save one exception. I have an external SanDisk 32 GB class 4 card that I am using and it only shows 1GB available when it is installed in my NT. Here are the things I have tried without any luck.
** reformat SD card using SDFormatter.
** double check the partitioning using mini tool and verified that there is only one partition 32GB, FAT 32.
** put the SD card in my laptops SD card reader and I see that all 32 GB are available.
** put the SD card back in my NT and uses AppMgrIII to move the app to external SD, then ejected the SD and saw that the app was no longer available so I know what my NT is calling the SD is in fact my external SD card.
The only thing I have not tried is a new SD. Any clues?
EDIT:
One note, when I go into Settings --> Storage I see two sections marked internal storage and one SD card section.
Internal Storage 1
Total Space 3.97GB
Internal Storage 2
Total Space 29.71 GB (This is my external SD card)
SD Card
Total Space 1.00GB
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The 1 GB you see listed is actually internal emmc. Your 32 GB sd is actually 29.71 GB formatted. Your internal user media is 3.97 GB.
This is how internal memory is allocated-
1 GB RAM+1 GB emmc+4GB media+2GB (split between OS and /data)=8GB model.
1 GB RAM+1 GB emmc+4GB media+10GB (split between OS and /data)=16GB model
You did not mention if you have the 8 or 16 GB model. Either way there is nothing wrong with your memory allocation.
I have the 16 GB model. When I try to move apps to SD does it shows it moving to the 1GB sd card which you said was the internal emmc. I will play around some more to see if I can get some more evidence. Thank you for answering!
Rhino1272 said:
I have the 16 GB model. When I try to move apps to SD does it shows it moving to the 1GB sd card which you said was the internal emmc. I will play around some more to see if I can get some more evidence. Thank you for answering!
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Are you running an app that mounts/swaps emmc as SD?
No
If you're using paranoid android it swaps the internal storage and SD card. Nothing to be worried about, but if you want it swapped use the succulant build.
did you figure this out? My nook color running 4.0.2 does the same thing (shows 2 external sd cards), and installs all the "sd apps" to the smaller sdcard1 partition instead of my actual external sdcard2. How do I tell it to treat my actual sd as the external sd so I can put all my apps on it?
many thanks
SelArom said:
did you figure this out? My nook color running 4.0.2 does the same thing (shows 2 external sd cards), and installs all the "sd apps" to the smaller sdcard1 partition instead of my actual external sdcard2. How do I tell it to treat my actual sd as the external sd so I can put all my apps on it?
many thanks
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It is "figured out" for OP in the replies. To switch on your build, try asking in the Color forum section. There may be a zip to flash or maybe a change to be made in the build prop. But you need to check it for your device and ROM.
oops sorry, I had so many tabs open researching this I didn't realize this wasn't the NC forum. I have asked in there on a few threads, hopefully something will turn up.
thanks!

Apps won't really move to external sd card.

I'm running neatrom kitkat build , I was running out of space on 2gb app partition so i started moving all large apps by using " Move to SD" option in settings. To my surprise all the apps were moved from 2GB partition to internel sd (11.50GB) instead of my external SD card. WTF? I've around 6GB+ of free space on my external sd card so what's the damn problem?
What's the point of inserting micro sd card when you're unable to move your crap on it. Funny thing is that Android wants you insert micro sd card to move your apps to "Internal sd card"
Any solution?
Chairmansaab said:
I'm running neatrom kitkat build , I was running out of space on 2gb app partition so i started moving all large apps by using " Move to SD" option in settings. To my surprise all the apps were moved from 2GB partition to internel sd (11.50GB) instead of my external SD card. WTF? I've around 6GB+ of free space on my external sd card so what's the damn problem?
What's the point of inserting micro sd card when you're unable to move your crap on it. Funny thing is that Android wants you insert micro sd card to move your apps to "Internal sd card"
Any solution?
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This is not a bug, but it is more of a feature of android. The reason why apps are not moved to external sd card is because it will take longer to load your apps, especially on boot. Also, there will be a much higher chance that you will find that your apps are missing as android is unable to load all of your apps fast enough.

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