Very bad battery life, 25%/hour with no use! Please help! - Motorola Photon 4G

New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.

bubsnews said:
New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.
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Sounds like you've got an app that is causing 100% wake time.
Go to "Settings", then to "Battery & data manager", then "Battery Usage". It will show you what is using most of your battery.
Importantly, though, click on the time at the top of the screen (which tells you how long you have been on battery / off battery). This will bring up a screen that will show you things like the level of phone signal you are getting, and most importantly for you when your phone is "awake". If you see a mostly blue (or in your case, possibly all blue) bar there, then you've got something that's causing you problems.
Spare parts may be able to help you figure out what it is.

Thx jw, appreciate the help. Nothing worked though, Sprint is replacing the phone.

Sounds like either u have a bad battery or rogue app running... I had the same problem, I did a factory reset, but skipped setting up and social networks....today I had a hour of usage, and through 9 hours, had 77% battery left....big difference
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phyba said:
Sounds like either u have a bad battery or rogue app running... I had the same problem, I did a factory reset, but skipped setting up and social networks....today I had a hour of usage, and through 9 hours, had 77% battery left....big difference
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I'm not certain if this is Motoblur or it was just changed from the last time I used Android, but there appears to be an option to only sync social network information when on Wifi.
Battery & Data > Data Delivery > Social applications

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I'm not certain if this is Motoblur or it was just changed from the last time I used Android, but there appears to be an option to only sync social network information when on Wifi.
Battery & Data > Data Delivery > Social applications
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I didn't like motoblurs social networking....nothing like htc sense facebook syncing. Not sure if social networking has a memory leak or it was a fluke that since I hard reset and skipped the initial social networking setup, my battery life is great
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I had my phone on the night stand unplugged and it went down 5%.
I can get about 5 hours of heavy use and I can recharge fully in an hour or so.
No battery complaints from me!
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battery is amazing for me. downloaded battery circle from market that shows true percentage of battery and when u pull down notification bar it will show something like "Discharging from 95% since 8 hrs" then underneath that it will say "voltage 3.78v // capacity at 47% since 11:16pm" or something along those lines. so in 8 hrs of medium use on 3g only i dropped half. not bad at all.
think u had a bad battery. also i honestly dont think you need juice defender with this phone. i let things sync all day whether 3g or wifi and i make it a full day easy.

bubsnews said:
New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.
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Home Screen, slide it to the left. On that screen, shut down 4G, GPS, and Bluetooth if not using it. Even playing with mine (and I play hard) I'm about 30% loss every 4 hours. Im good for a day?
Also, remember if you have Facebook, Twitter, Google+.........the radio (3G or 4G) is constantly reaching out to them for updates!

I went this whole weekend from 8am to 11pm without charging, I played words with friends checked fb, texted and made calls and never needed my charger. I came from the evo and i would of had a dead phone at 4pm doing the same amount so i am impressed all the way

Got mine on Friday. Looking forward to the workday to test the battery during a normal routine. But yesterday, I gamed & messed with the phone for over 2 hours (out of 4 hours off uptime) & only dropped by 50%. I am happy with that.
Sent from a beach in the Caribbean.

I'm at 12 hours up time and am at 50% left. Battery is good in my book.
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it's a good battery, can get a full 7-8 hour day on heavy usage (4g and 3d games) plus texting and youtube. If i only used 3g and wifi i could get 2 days out of it if i really wanted to

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[Q] HORRIBLE Battery Life due to Display!!!!

HORRIBLE Battery Life due to Display!!!!
Is this because of the qHD display or the 3D?
My display always ends up using +80% of my battery...
I've tried keeping the display at about 25% brightness and auto... both Didnt seem to help...
Any solutions or sugestions?
Thanks in Advance
same as it was for me on my hd2 and my week with the 4g.
just the nature of the beast with a big screen
I was the proud owner of the 4g for one year and granted the display took up a lot of battery it was never more than 40% for me
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I think it's a bit of a false positive. I've noticed that when I"m in weak signal areas, my display percentage is WAY higher (60-80%) than it normally is. Even when my display is hardly ever on (as indicated by the battery graph). I have a feeling that multiple things (including cell standby/data syncing) are erroneously rolled up into the "display" category.
Dave
The reason you see high numbers is because your display is the only thing that will make a dent into the battery. Everything else isn't consuming as much so that is why you see such a high percentage. My sister has a shift, my dad has a 3D, I have a 3D and an EVO. They all share the same display percentages. People need to stop worrying.
The other apps are not consuming as much power so the display is reading high. I also noticed this with any phone that has gingerbread sense. The shift and EVO started showing results like this once they got the gingersense update.
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dodgeboy said:
I think it's a bit of a false positive. I've noticed that when I"m in weak signal areas, my display percentage is WAY higher (60-80%) than it normally is. Even when my display is hardly ever on (as indicated by the battery graph). I have a feeling that multiple things (including cell standby/data syncing) are erroneously rolled up into the "display" category.
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Is there any way to comfirm this? (app from market?)
I don't know if this will apply to the 3D since it is in reference to the OG Evo, but I find that when I'm on a Sense based ROM it is ALWAYS display that takes up the most, and when I'm on AOSP it's ALWAYS cell standby.
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SoraX64 said:
I don't know if this will apply to the 3D since it is in reference to the OG Evo, but I find that when I'm on a Sense based ROM it is ALWAYS display that takes up the most, and when I'm on AOSP it's ALWAYS cell standby.
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No clue whether it applies either, however that would fit in with Dodgeboy's anecdote about weak signal increasing his display %.
My battery life has been outstanding with heavy usage. Normally around 24 hours all mobile data and no WiFi.
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TMartin03 said:
My battery life has been outstanding with heavy usage. Normally around 24 hours all mobile data and no WiFi.
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Tits or gtfo...
Prove it I don't believe you
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I can say I get 24hrs with heavy usage also, but I am using WiFi. Out of the 24, the phone is active for 6-7 hours watching netflix, browsing the internet, browsing xda, playing fruit ninja and watching videos plus YouTube.
Just cause you don't get that doesn't mean others don't.
Did yall do anything special when u got your phone? I can usually get about 12 with moderate usage. I would love to be able to play games all day with good battery
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I get less than 6 hours. I love this phone but the battery life is pissing me off. Lol. Not that I'm not used to it with the original EVO.
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LOL, there is no way anyone is getting 24 hours out of this battery or their definition of "Heavy Usage" is FAR different from say... HEAVY USAGE.
I'm in sales. I top out around 8K minutes a month making and taking phone calls, in/out pitching , closing etc..
Phone is usually ON - talking, dialing, sending/receiving email, syncing, updating.
I'm lucky to get 4 hours.
lmao.. 24 hours heavy usage.. newbs.
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LOL, there is no way anyone is getting 24 hours out of this battery or their definition of "Heavy Usage" is FAR different from say... HEAVY USAGE.
I'm in sales. I top out around 8K minutes a month making and taking phone calls, in/out pitching , closing etc..
Phone is usually ON - talking, dialing, sending/receiving email, syncing, updating.
I'm lucky to get 4 hours.
lmao.. 24 hours heavy usage.. newbs.
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If you charged your battery all the way before using it for the first time then unplug it and plug it back in you will get outstanding battery life and do it every time you charge your phone plus don't drain your battery completely you will shorten life of the battery...quit *****ing and condition your and give automateit a go from the market and turn off automatic brightness
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the bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushing, if you know what I mean.
I'm on the side that 24hrs of heavy usage being fairly absurd. I'm not outright denying it's possible, but I can't see it.
My phone used 70% over 12hrs. That only entailed receiving push mail for at most 50 messages. I turned on the screen occasionally, but didn't really use the phone. I was connected to wifi most of that time, and had a good cell signal. Estimates say I could get a few more hours out of the phone. That still puts it at around 15-18 hours of almost no use. I could see maybe hitting 24hrs if I didn't touch it the entire time.
Great
I am very pleased with battery life. I'm getting 8 hours plus without any problems.
I have never check to see how long it actually last. I've never just let it run over night. But I have run it about 20 hours on days since I got it and by the time I'm plugging it in at night it still has 30%+ left on it's charge. I run all sorts of stuff during the day, play games, check XDA, use the internet, 4G, navigator, etc., plus spend 3-4 hours on actually talking for work. So, I could believe the 24 hours, especially after running for 20+ hours on days. I always let it charge completely overnight though.
Fully charged on AC overnight. Unplugged at 7:30am. its not even 10 yet and the phone is below 50% charge. i have made two short phone calls and sent a few texts. that's it.
This is pathetic. Even if it is radio related, that's still not acceptable.
Hoping to see the Seidio fat battery get released soon. At least the phone will last a day then
Any thoughts on the OTA perhaps improving battery life? I hesitate to apply it while waiting for root, but from what I am reading, we might be at the mercy of HTC in that regard anyway...
Edit: 30 minutes later, down to 15% charge. amazing.

What apps do you use to help with battery life?

I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
Personally, I dont use anything extra and my phone gets GREAT battery life
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Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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I used my phone moderately with some email usage, calls and a few games and i got about 13 hours of battery life and had about 6% battery juice left to spare. How are you getting som much battery life? Did you do anything with the Sprint Bloatware? Did you uninstall some apps or freeze the. P
Thanks in advance....
I use Y5 to auto enable/disable my WiFi connections. Keeps the phone on Wifi as much as possible and I don't have to mess with it.
Juice defender does that. Before I had wifi constantly on, gps, 4g and battery wasnt what id expect. I mean ive never had it die on me yet but close. No frills controls clock speed depending on how much I need. Since ive installed juice and no frills battery is way better.
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depends on what im doing. If i plan to be using my phone in and out of my pocket alot, ill have juice defender turned on.
if i know im going to be talking alot that day, texting and not much need for internet, then ill just leave my 3g widget off for mobile network.
other then that, the phone has great battery life.
I must say, on my evo i got super annal about having full charge and wanting to keep charging it all the time. I swear id get an uneasy feeling in my stomach if it went below 50%. when i first got this phone and had the 10% marks instead of the 1% marks, my brain about blew up and i didnt know what to do! lol
but now ive began to like the 10% marks bc im not as annal about wanting to plug my phone in bc now i dont see the amount it dropped in the last few minutes.
in all.. i guess this phone was made for me, or like the windows 7 people "my name is logan, and i invented the photon"
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I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
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I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using/trying juice defender and have it set on balanced. It says I save about 1.5% every day. I have to email accounts syncing, text about 50 a day and use about 10min of internet and I was down to 40% in 9hrs. This was with out make a phone call today. Juice defender doesn't seem to really help anything.
I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I was just noticing the brightness of the Photon's screen last night just before fallin asleep. My evo on 0% was DARK in a dark room, but at 100% in the sun you couldnt see. The photon seems to be in a different ballpark. 0% it still looks super bright and 100% is WOW a light in the sky.
when i look at when my battery is being drained the most, its def when that screen is on. i think a rom or theme with black/night colors will def help out because the bright colors of white are probably not any aid to the battery conservation.
yesterday i kept juice defender off all day. got 14 hours and 37 minutes till it hit the 30% mark and the icon changed colors. i had about 2 hours of web surfing, about 3 hours of total call time, and about 150 texts and almost a dozen MMS. (buddy just picked up a new chocolate lab puppy )
so im impressed. i def agree, looks like juice defender is not a good fit for the phone yet. the toggling radios on and off probably kills alot of power.
I have to agree, Juice Defender doesn't seem to be doing much. I get around 1.47-1.6 with JuiceDefender.
Other than that I run SetCPU with my profiles set up.
I some times when I am at work use a custom battery setting which pots screen at lowest and disables data during peak hours after 45 minutes of inactivity. It works great especially when I am at work and have some longer breaks between checking my phone. I also work and live right next to a sprint tower so I always have great coverage.
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I still need to use juice defender ultimate for about a week to get a good history from it but right now im at almost 19hrs to full battery drain.
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Juice Defender, 36-38 hours before switching to 2nd battery.
Set to sync all every 1 hour. Twitter, corporate mail, 2 gmails, corp calender, contacts, etc.
The main difference is I set the screen to off in Juice Defender under toggles, not to trigger the data on just because I pulled the phone out and turned the screen on, doesn't mean I want to get on the web. I can easily pull up local info w/o that. In the morning, and in the evening, wifi is on for 30 mins or less each time to download podcasts on doggcatcher.
Lots of texts, calls , 150+ emails delivered a day, plenty of app usage, plenty of google.com searches. Maybe 1-2 app updates a day. Audio and video usage around 3-4 hrs daily.
I can go to work at 7:20 in the morning, get off at 5-5:30, and my batt stats are 75% left. Am usually sitting at 60-65% left by that 12th hour.
Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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If you have root I would say autokiller memory optimizer. Has some cool features.
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Zor Omega said:
That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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Well said. My advice is just find a cheep aftermarket battery and keep it handy just in case.
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Why buy juice defender when the photon has these features built in. Just go to battery mode and chose "Maximum battery saver". After 15 mins it will turn off all syncing activity. Also when you're not using your phone turn off syncing completely it really helps your phone last 10-15 hours easily. I'm a very heavy user so while I'm at work I just turn off sync! Plus I also received a replacement battery from Motorola because my original battery had problems. I couldn't get more than 8 hours with the first battery (maybe defective) so they sent new one.
I agree with the post on people claiming 20-30 hrs.. they flat out dont google and drool over theyre screen all day.. like most others do though.. that is why batt life is always always will be a huge issue!
Nothing ever really will help kernels.. roms ...juice def..undervolting.. it really
dont make the huge diff people expect..
Samsung has about the best batt life youll find on an android device.. with the exception of a few devices.. dual core affects alot more than a noticeable benifit!
Only real option to date is a EXTENDED BATTERY!
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Battery is so disappointing ..

So I've had it since November 8th, that was a while ago... and I've been at work today and lightly texting, using gochat fb from time to time, reading RSS, calendar, minimal brightness, hspa+, and after 8 hours my batteries at like 15%, does this seem like normal usage/battery drainage to anyone? I'm at work so ill extend on this a little more later, but people were saying you should see battery improvements after a week or two ..
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So I've had it since November 8th, that was a while ago... and I've been at work today and lightly texting, using gochat fb from time to time, reading RSS, calendar, minimal brightness, hspa+, and after 8 hours my batteries at like 15%, does this seem like normal usage/battery drainage to anyone? I'm at work so ill extend on this a little more later, but people were saying you should see battery improvements after a week or two ..
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There's a lot of factors that go into battery life it might be the Facebook chat constantly using data and killing the battery it might be other things...I would recommend juice defender beta it really helps me out. I usually just keep my phone on 3g unless I really need the speed and that helps tremendously. I'm going on 14 hours with more use than you've described above with 29% battery left.
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With the usage described, by the time I was getting to the end of the thread I thought you would mention you had 15% after 5-6 hours.
I am not sure what phones you have had in the past and if they were Android phones, but what you just described is GREAT battery life.
Take into consideration these things:
1. 3G
2. Screen on
3. Phone not sleeping because of chat
4. Huge screen
5. Fast CPU
Did you really expect battery life to be the same on this as on your Nokia 6310i almost 10 years ago?
Now regularly getting just over 48 hours between charges (this morning I've still go 20% left in the tank)..
..3g off, but wifi on during daytime (with background sync for email, weather, uknews widget, xbox live stats widget etc), a few calls here and there (inc using speakerphone) moderate texting... using 3g when away from home e.g. commuting to work a couple of days a week.. regularly checking fb etc.. smart action to disable wifi, 3g and background sync over night but that's about it..
pretty..
damn..
awesome!!!
I guess you're right, I do expect too much usage from the phones these days it seems.. anyway, lightly (read: barely) using the phone today, 6 hrs usage so far and its kicking at 70% still, not bad.. I also installed JuiceDefender (sounds like a condom brand lol) so that seems like its helping I think, ill start setting up my smart actions and stuff too.
Even with my brightness all the way down it seems like its using a whopping 46% of the battery, jeeeesus
I also do feel like my smartphone is my primary device these days, I mean, I don't even use the desktop I just bought.. gonna sell it and get an HDTV + HD station + wireless keyboard w/ touch pad.. and I will be set!
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Don't know if this helps but I've now been listening to music for 6 hours straight and still have 40% battery left, that's checking 5 mail accounts every hour, going on book face and 2 google accounts. The battery rocks
+ charged it to 100‰ as I knew tonight would be music night
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My battery on my Razr is excellent
Ok I'm here to tell ya z battery on this here Razr is fine. I spent 4 hours on the golf course with the screen and gps on the whole time with my SkyDroid golf range finder app, had several calls and even surf the web a few times while waiting to hit my next shot and I only lost 32% on my battery. I can go 24 hours easily with heavy use.
Now I'm rooted...use Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer and I'm golden. Both those apps need Superuser Permission so you have to be rooted and maybe I'm just lucky but I'm pleased with the battery life so far. Now ask me in a year after 300+ battery charges and maybe it will different as I'm not a big fan of non-replaceable batteries. I do like my Razr however.
Good Luck
I was getting terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Did 3-4 battery cycles (let the phone die completely, charge to 100%, use phone and let battery die completely, rinse, repeat) and my battery life has improved dramatically.
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Battery gets literally 4 hours before it's dead

I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Dillsnik said:
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
Maroon Mushroom said:
Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
itsnowornever said:
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
kimtyson said:
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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Underground_XI said:
The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
SayWhat10 said:
7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
Driggity420 said:
YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT

Battery Life Span

Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.

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