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Hello. The subject matter says it all.
I currently have a rooted and unlocked AT&T Atrix on 1.26 version (yeah...still in ice age ) with a locked bootloader. Im with a non-US telco carrier. It came unlocked and rooted so that was great. No hassle but now I have started doing research on custom roms and webtop mods. I am trying to get around the info overload, so pls bear with my questions.
The overall goal is to have a stock/custom rom devoid of all the bloatwares and can run webtop2sd, and if that is not possible then, webtop. Very simple needs.
Option 1
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To remain on stock rom and update to 1.83 version, and then to install the webtop2sd mod. Ideally I would like to boot off Debian from the microsd card. There was a post in which a forumer mentioned that he was able to "frankenstein" the webtop2sd and webtop mods. Thats great if I understood correctly.
Option 2
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To update to 4.5.91 (probably a custom rom like Aura) and then install the webtop2sd/webtop mod.
What should be done?
I am going to update 1.26 -> 1.57 -> 1.83 -> 4.5.91 via system update. (which means I now have to signed with moto account...yes I have not as I read that there were some privacy issues.)
Through the update process, I would lose root. To keep everything clean, I am going to go through factory reset and then perform the update.
Once I am in 1.83 or 4.5.91, I will apply the root and unlock the bootloader. Which is the best way to go about this? Should I just follow the instruction here or this way. Or is there any other better way?
This is all I have for now until I install the webtop mod or the custom rom...
update your phone to wherever you want it at, then use this script to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
after that, you can easily root your phone using the preinstall method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204 (second post)
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
I never got a semi-hard or *soft* brick from unlocking but that's just cause I must love to eat pudding =D . Do all the OTA updates, unlock / root, and then install the 2.3.4 fruitcake and install webtop. Best option by far, IMO, as far as the ease of transition goes. Should be cake. That's what I did and as long as you don't RSD lite with an .SBF back once on 2.3.4 OTA yer good to go.
eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
Install a custom kernel if ya wanna overclock or undervolt, I would personally suggest Faux123's. -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
aaand freeeze all that bloatware!-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
Alcapone263 said:
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
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Maybe I should try to unlock it now... And then update.
tech_girl said:
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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well, i can't find it anymore but there is an SBF in the development forum that will allow you to update to 2.3.4 android without getting the brickable bootloader, but i personally don't see a point in using SBF. it's not meant for the end user, and using it can be risky.
SBF flashing is faster i believe, but as i said can also potentially harm your device if you're unsure of what you're doing.
SamCripp, one of the most esteemed devs here, suggests for the average person to completely stay away from sbf flashing after you've unlocked your bootloader unless you absolutely have to use it for something.
remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method. it WILL brick your device to downgrade, but only with the OTA update.
EDIT: and it's a semi-hard brick, it doesn't hurt your device in the least. you might panic at first, but it's as simple as booting into fastboot mode and finishing the script. or if you're more tech inclined, you can just do the fastboot oem unlock command through fastboot.
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eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-....
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remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method.....
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Fruitcakes??? All this jargon.... Hmmm...gotta check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
yep, Fruitcakes. it's a CWM alternative to sbf flashing, much safer since it doesn't edit the bootloader at all, so there's no risk in hard bricking your device.
after you unlock your bootloader, you should install Romracer's CWM recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
do all of your flashing through CWM after you unlock your bootloader, just remember to clear cache/dalvik/data between each ROM or you might get stuck in a bootloop.
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
tech_girl said:
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
Alcapone263 said:
well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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Once you unlock and get CWM installed its just a case of wiping the device and flashing zip files.
Yep after unlocking and getting rom racers cwm in, you get to have lots of fun and almost zero chance of hard bricking. Make sure you understand the pudding part. After you unlock throw rsd lite away.
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
tech_girl said:
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
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You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
pukemon said:
You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
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Yep thats how it works. once BL unlocked and CWM installed you can flash anything, including yes .91 stock.
Note that .91 stock OTA is not only the operating system but also modifies the bootloader hence all the hard brick warnings about flashing sbfs. When you flash zip files you don't touch the bootloader, so there is no chance of hard bricking. i.e. if you flash .91 stock from zip file from CWM as opposed to OTA, you get only the OS, not the bootloader update (which doesn't matter ).
It disables the auto brightness yay. Unlock bootloaders do not update will brick ur plat.
should be in the general section. good man anyways
Hasn't this been live for a few days and there is already a thread on this in general.
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for serial, it really bricks your phone! I had to get a replacement because of this crap. Do not do it...however, now that i got a replacement for that phone, i can say it is better. I dont know why i am still writing in caps. I am yelling the first sentence though. Take it seriously!!! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
doua27 said:
it disables the auto brightness yay. Unlock bootloaders do not update will brick ur plat.
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for serial, it really bricks your phone! I had to get a replacement because of this crap. Do not do it...however, now that i got a replacement for that phone, i can say it is better. I dont know why i am still writing in caps. I am yelling the first sentence though. Take it seriously!!! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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I forgot to relock and it did brick but following the UNBRICKING thread i got it back working. RELOCK bootloader then update then UNLOCK and REROOT all works fine now of course after root probably best to relock bootloader anyway just incase.
Post the ftf file please
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Post the ftf file please
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It's in the first post of the relock thread
Not the relock one, the 2.3.4 r800x ftf
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Once we have an .ftf of the new 2.3.4 VZW OTA update we will be able to flash that via fastboot, and re-root while keeping our bootloader unlocked?
With flashtool not fastvoot, and yes
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Yeah, flashtool. Haha.
So I relocked my bootoader, and now I want to unlock it again, it fail. I even tried to just use fastboot commands to boot into recovery and it comes back as
failed phone must be rooted." I did use flashtool to reflash back to stock r800x firmware 2.3.2 I dont know what it s going on. I have flashed my phone before and unlocked the bootloader but now it wont.
I relocked my bootlaoder to ota to 2.3.3. but decided to go back to 2.3.2. for the time being.
Any ideas why this is happening?
tried to unlock the bootloader and it fails everytime. Using fastboot commands for recoveryPLAY comes back with a "phone must be rooted" line.
Hey guys, i cant root my phone.
I just now reflashed my phone with FlashTool into 4.0.2.A.0.62 kernel 2.6.32.9.
And now i cant root my phone with DoomLord root with ZergRrush.
Can anyone help me?
Help yourself by searching, this is all explained many times.
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I tried this, but i doesnt found everything.
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You can't root on fw .62! You must flash back to .42 (use wotanserver) and then root. After that, update your phone by OTA (on the air update) to .62!
Completely untrue. You can root - read the posts.
In a nutshell, because posters fail to bother to read everything:
Copy Rootxperia.zip to the SD card
Factory reset (don't format the SD card)
Use flashtool or Wotan to install your version of 0.62
Use fastboot to BOOT (not flash) recoveryNeo.img
When CWM boots, install Rootxperia.zip
Done
(CWM in this instance is hot booted, not "installed")
LenAsh said:
Completely untrue. You can root - read the posts.
In a nutshell, because posters fail to bother to read everything:
Copy Rootxperia.zip to the SD card
Factory reset (don't format the SD card)
Use flashtool or Wotan to install your version of 0.62
Use fastboot to BOOT (not flash) recoveryNeo.img
When CWM boots, install Rootxperia.zip
Done
(CWM in this instance is hot booted, not "installed")
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This method works only with unlocked bootloader. By unlocking bootloader you loose warranty and some phones has no unlockable bootloader.
The OP has an unlocked bootloader... according to previous posts. My response reflects that.
Unlocking BL MAY affect your warranty... in practice highly unlikely.
Phones that cannot be unlocked are likely carrier locked which is a whole new moral ballgame. The desire to mess with these is dubious at best. Users intending to modify their phones should have unlocked carrier-free phones.
My phone carrier unlocked, but bootloader no
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I prefer to reflash my phone to .42 but i cant use wotant, i need ftf firmware.
I cant find it.
Or if i find it is in japanese or chinese server, so download is very slow
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why can't you use wotan server?
Also, if you be carefull and no scarry, unlock bootloader by tespin method (use link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409269 ), then root (use link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431033 ) and be sure to lock bootloader after that!
Lietotajs said:
and be sure to lock bootloader after that!
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And why is that?
Madfysh said:
And why is that?
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If you accidentaly update officaly firmware, for example, ICS will relise and you go update (with unoffically unlocked bootloader it is possible), you brick phone!
Lietotajs said:
If you accidentaly update officaly firmware, for example, ICS will relise and you go update (with unoffically unlocked bootloader it is possible), you brick phone!
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Well, you see, I wouldn't agree with you
You know someone who did that?
OTA update brick phones with officially unlocked BL. Since the ones unlocked via test point can use all official tools(PCC, SEUS) I believe they can also use OTA, since their BL's are patched.
Also, how can you accidentally update it?
Madfysh said:
Well, you see, I wouldn't agree with you
You know someone who did that?
OTA update brick phones with officially unlocked BL. Since the ones unlocked via test point can use all official tools(PCC, SEUS) I believe they can also use OTA, since their BL's are patched.
Also, how can you accidentally update it?
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With officaly unlocked bootloader OTA update not possible!
Some customers with unlocked boot loaders have experienced problems when they are accepting over the air upgrades (FOTA - Firmware upgrade Over The Air). For customers that have unlocked the boot loader, please do not accept any over the air upgrades. For additional information, check out the hints and tips from the community on the XDA forum.
Lietotajs said:
With officaly unlocked bootloader OTA update not possible!
Some customers with unlocked boot loaders have experienced problems when they are accepting over the air upgrades (FOTA - Firmware upgrade Over The Air). For customers that have unlocked the boot loader, please do not accept any over the air upgrades. For additional information, check out the hints and tips from the community on the XDA forum.
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Yes, that is official statement for BL unlocked via official way. Since those phones can't use SEUS or PCC because those programs can realize someone messed with OS, but FOTA is dumb and can't realize that, so she still try that's when Mr. brick comes into town
Unofficially unlocked BL's can use SEUS and PCC so I believe they can also use FOTA. All brick's came from officially unlocked phones. I haven't heard any case where it happen with unofficially unlocked BL.
If you show me one example they I will change my way of thinking
Ok guys, i tried flash kernel .42 (ftf) but my phone still .62
I tried flash .42 broadband, but nothing.
What should i do with locked bl?
And without wotant, becouse my internet speed is extremely slow for this month.
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jonke11 said:
Ok guys, i tried flash kernel .42 (ftf) but my phone still .62
I tried flash .42 broadband, but nothing.
What should i do with locked bl?
And without wotant, becouse my internet speed is extremely slow for this month.
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By my opinoin the easiest way is to unlock the boot loader and then you can do what ever you want..otherwise I would recommand wotan..
everything is possible, almost then, but indeed you cant root 62, but if you downgrade to 42 do this: tick only wiping data & cache with flashtool, restart your phone and then you are on 42 not so hard to do it if you on unlocked bl, but i think thats already explained sorry for that then, but it must work i try it many times on my own phone and lock and unlock my bl to several times, so good luck with it.
Flashing original sony ericsson kernel dont need bl unlocked?
And can anyone upload .42 kernel here in ftf file?
Becouse where iam found its have same size as .62 kernel
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Hey guys I have some questions. First of all I own an sk17i with ics. I had locked the bootloader and flashed ics now I wanna unlock it again, should I do this via the official way or via test method. If I unlock the bootloader will everything be deleted? And if I flash a custom kernel will I be able to flash super charger script?
*sorry but I am a newbie!
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If you do it with official method, you will lose your warranty, if you do it with tespoint method, you can unlock and relock and sony won't recognize, so your warranty is keepen up!
Here is the official method of sony, where you will loose your warranty.
Here you will find information on unlocking without loosing drm keys.
Unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data, so do a nandroid backup via cwm before, so you can restore your current rom later.
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Hey guys I have some questions. First of all I own an sk17i with ics. I had locked the bootloader and flashed ics now I wanna unlock it again, should I do this via the official way or via test method. If I unlock the bootloader will everything be deleted? And if I flash a custom kernel will I be able to flash super charger script?
*sorry but I am a newbie!
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If you've previously unlocked the bootloader, then RE-locked it, you need to use the official method again.
You can use the same key to unlock it as before.
Unlocking bootloader does not affect any system or data files. So no, you don't loose any data.
V6 supercharger script requires init.d. Stock kernel doesn't support that ability unless you install it.
Anyway, you can install V6 with any kernel supposedly it supports init.d.
As far as I know, every custom kernel has support...
Michi_optimus_me said:
If you do it with official method, you will lose your warranty, if you do it with tespoint method, you can unlock and relock and sony won't recognize, so your warranty is keepen up!
Here is the official method of sony, where you will loose your warranty.
Here you will find information on unlocking without loosing drm keys.
Unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data, so do a nandroid backup via cwm before, so you can restore your current rom later.
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I do not have cwm installed and that's why I want to unlock bootloader. I have unlocked via official way so I think I should unlock it again via official way.
iONEx said:
If you've previously unlocked the bootloader, then RE-locked it, you need to use the official method again.
You can use the same key to unlock it as before.
Unlocking bootloader does not affect any system or data files. So no, you don't loose any data.
V6 supercharger script requires init.d. Stock kernel doesn't support that ability unless you install it.
Anyway, you can install V6 with any kernel supposedly it supports init.d.
As far as I know, every custom kernel has support...
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So the apps will not be deleted? Cause the other man said that everything is gonna be deleted:S Please tell me man. I will unlock bootloader via official way, then I will install a custom kernel and finally I will install super charger
EDiT: you loose data partition so do make a backup
You can easily find a backup app on the market.
After that, you can flash a custom kernel and install V6
Official unlock method makes factory reset, so yes, you lose all data.
Thank you guys! when I will finish everything I'll tell you
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Hello,
is it possible to relock bootloader after ulocking it? I need it due to the warranty.
in short, No. please search the forum for details, as this is discussed.
i suggest you just try the luck sending the phone in and not mention anythong about the bootloader. of course should flash to stock rom if that still can be done
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Why you want the warranty? Want to sell it later? Or did it already got any fault?
mrmathematica said:
in short, No. please search the forum for details, as this is discussed.
i suggest you just try the luck sending the phone in and not mention anythong about the bootloader. of course should flash to stock rom if that still can be done
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I think, he did not say he is sending to service center. He just said he needs it for warranty (in future).
See how smart these new pals are. May be we are all idiots to unlock it without giving a second thought. lolz
I do not have yet any fault, I just want to try alternative rom and I want to have way back to stock rom
My last phone had after 3 month of use some problem and I must return it. So I just want to know if it is possible
I thought that flashing the stock u-boot & x-boot will re-lock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37250265&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39761686&postcount=30
Maybe this should be in a sticky post somewhere. I have seen a few people ask about re-locking the bootloader.
If this works, we should start collecting u-boot & x-boot images.
There is no way to relock bootloader. Here is good post about bootloader and omap4430, it applies to L9s. In our case ics xloader ,uboot or both simply don't recognize that bootloader had been unlocked and it just appears locked.
I see. Thanks you.
So, you guys with unlocked bootloader, have no problem with fact that your devices have no warranty?
If you don't mention the unlocked bootloader to the customer service and your device has an unrooted stock ROM, there is only a few chance that they check the bootloader if it is for an hardware issue.
It only requires a little bit luck .
If i will make root by this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
With locked bootloader, then install cwm. May I then install cyanogenmod and if something goes wrong may i return to original stock rom together with warranty?
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stanislavdavid said:
If i will make root by this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
With locked bootloader, then install cwm. May I then install cyanogenmod and if something goes wrong may i return to original stock rom together with warranty?
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cwm requires unlocked bootloader
I think you need to install the "CWM Recovery" bootloader to flash a custom ROM. And with a locked bootloader, you can only have a bootloader signed by LG (not a "CWM Recovery" one).
However, you can try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825
It is a "CWM Recovery" which is not directly placed inside the bootloader (instead, it adds a step on Android start). When I tried it on my P760 (when it still had a locked bootloader), it failed (but you can still try).
OperationNT said:
I think you need to install the "CWM Recovery" bootloader to flash a custom ROM. And with a locked bootloader, you can only have a bootloader signed by LG (not a "CWM Recovery" one).
However, you can try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825
It is a "CWM Recovery" which is not directly placed on in the bootloader. When I tried it on my phone, it failed (but you can still try).
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Actually that recovery will not work on jb,
Ok, that's why it failed for me.
Now, you have your answer, you must stay on ICS if you wish to keep your bootloader locked with CWM Recovery.
However, I would be curious to know what happens if a JB ROM (custom or stock) is installed through using this "locked bootloader CWM Recovery".
OperationNT said:
Ok, that's why it failed for me.
Now, you have your answer, you must stay on ICS if you wish to keep your bootloader locked with CWM Recovery.
However, I would be curious to know what happens if a JB ROM (custom or stock) is installed through using this "locked bootloader CWM Recovery".
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I received "Security Error" when attempting to boot when I tried this a while back. It just won't work because the kernel needs to be signed by LG.
So may I at least root phone or even root is not possible without unlocked bootloader?
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Root is possible with boolloader, try this method (it worked fine for me while I wasn't on an unlocked bootloader) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
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stanislavdavid said:
Hello,
is it possible to relock bootloader after ulocking it? I need it due to the warranty.
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You do not know resealed on, it is true that and forth they have forgotten to write never to can be relocked
sometihing new
Hello, does anybody know something new about bootloader relock?
stanislavdavid said:
Hello, does anybody know something new about bootloader relock?
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Not possible yet.