I went away for xmass, and the last thing I did before leaving (this is stupid i know) was to upgrade my XDAII to 2003SE 2.02 rom.
I brought only my USB charge cable because i didnt want to carry too much.
Now, when I plugged it in to charge on my PC it said charging and the light came on as usual. However, it seems it wasnt charging. I left it overnight expecting to have a charged unit, only to find it completely dead the next day.
Now, when I plug it in, the charge light comes on RED for about 2 minutes, then the unit comes on from a hard reset and shows both charge levels at ZERO.
It stays on for about 10 minutes pretending to charge, but only the backup battery charges, the main one doesnt charge at all. Then it goes off totally and the light goes red again.
If I turn the unit off while it goes red straigh away and wont come back on.
After a few minutes it comes back on and pretends to charge again. The Backup battery reached "100 %" but the main battery will not charge. its still at 0% and wont charge.
Ive connected it to a 5v2amp psu as it requires but this was via a powered usb charger so using the same lead, not the official cradle.
Im worried there is something wrong but dont have access to the cradle.
Has anyone else ever had experiance of a total discharge state on an XDAII ?
UPDATE
I travelled 50 miles today to get to the nearest charge cradle for an XDA2, put my battery in and it charged fine. I put it back in the XDA and it worked. However, when I got home I plugged it into the USB charge lead, and it came on and said charging again, with the yellow light and all seemed well. I left if for a bit and the battery was then dead again with no charge and back to showing the red light. it wont come on at all now.
This is the same lead i used previously and the only change is the 2003SE rom, has anyone else had a problem charging after doing this rom upgrade? Can I revert back to 172 ? how? help please.
Please help. IM screwed unless I can find a solution, has anyone got any idea?
Dude, I have the same problem on my 1.72 version. I have (of course) dropped by xda2 several times on the floor, but it works charging from the cradle (which again has a adapter connected to it) but not from my brand new USB sync+Charge cable. I have also tried another cable and even on a different PC. Only thing that happens, is that it says it is charging, but nooooo... it's all flat after a little while. It's as if the cable uses my XDA power to change the PC instead of the other way around
It's funny. So now I have to drag that big-ass charger along with me to work every day instead of that neat little USB cable.
Life is unfair!
As for your problems, I can only say that you're not alone.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I havent ever dropped mine, ive taken good care of it, so I dont think that is the cause. It does sound like the same issue however, I dont have my cradle here to test it though, just a usb sync+charge cable.
Does it work with the charge adaptor and psu alone? I mean the little thing that goes on the end of the mains psu to connect directly to the XDA without the cradle. How about on the cradle without the PSU plugged in?
I think this may be a hardware fault that needs repair, so its off back to o2 for mine if it is, you may find they would repair yours too.
Anyone else got an idea?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4330
With my charger alone, it charges perfectly. In the Cradle with the charger connected, it works too. I havn't tried to use the cradle alone using only the USB cable to the PC.
I think I might bring it to the repair-dudes when it's so trashed that it is not working at all Until then, i will keep on using it.
I have exactly the same problem. i am not sure if it was because of the upgrade, but this is what happened to me, I upgraded to 1.72wwe from the factory 1.66wwe and it was working fine when I noticed that sometimes when it was charging after pulling out the plug, the unit will display 0% charge from the external battery and then after plugging it again the power is at 100%, It happened twice and was ok again, I presumed it was just a glitch from the system and promptly dismissed it as such. After a week, it was hardresetting everytime i got it out of the plug. I brought it to the service center and they replaced the battery (it was under warranty) It was working fine then I upgraded to 2003se the unit was ok for about 3 days then i noticed that the unit was loosing charge and hardresetting everytime. I brought it to the service center again and they said they replaced the motherboard this time and was back to 1.66wwe. So far its ok and working fine.
Yesterday I drove up to Seattle to visit UW, and took with me a car AC power adapter and my AC micro USB charger. On the way up I left it plugged in, used it few times (not while driving ), everything was all great and stuff. However, during the day I was there I used it a great deal with GPS, maps, etc etc. I just barely managed to get back to the car with about 10%. So I plug in the phone, and am noticing that the touch screen doesn't appear to be functioning properly. Frustrated, I reboot my phone and find that it still has this issue. After a little while with this I realised that the problem was that whenever the phone was plugged in, the touch screen wouldn't function right (wouldn't response basically all of the time, including the "buttons" on the bottom"). So I thought "OK, so the problem is the charger, weird". However, things got weirder. For some reason I decided to take the battery cover off while charging, but then suddenly I found that the touch screen was working again. I was like "wtf no way" of course, and put the cover back on because I thought it had just magically fixed itself. But lo and behold, it stopped working again as soon as I replaced the cover. I then took the cover back off and it started working just fine. Remember that the charger stayed plugged in this entire time.
So yea, that's my weirdass story. I have no idea what could possibly cause it to only not function when the charger is plugged in AND the battery cover is on. Makes no sense whatsoever. Oh yea, and when charging directly from AC at home, or with a USB to AC, or just USB, it has no problems whatsoever.
(tl;dr my phone has a borked touch screen if I am charging in the car with an AC adapter and have the battery cover on at the same time)
Anyone noticed this problem? I'm using aftermarket charger (copy of iPhone charger from DX), and after 3 hours of charging phone started behaving strange. While typing, it inserted random letters. The faster I tried to type, the more of random keypresses. Scrolling is almost impossible, because almost immediatelly instead of moving content phone registers touch on screen and tries to behave like that. Only when i put my whole finger with medium pressure and move slowly, I'm able to scroll. Else it just randomly "clicks" on screen.
First I thought that it is some kind of trojan/virus, tested with ESET and no change, restarted phone multiple times, no change. Strange is, that phone was charging since morning and it worked well. Maybe battery is now fully charged and it started behaving like this. After removing it form charger, it starts working correctly again in 5-10s. Tried even different charger from my colleague, same behavior (but it is also OEM without brand name). Tried also reversing charger in outlet, no change. Different outlet no change.
At home I charge with old iPad charger with 2m cable and it never happened...
Assume that I have to get some better charger (original from phone doesnt fit our EU plugs), but still i'm bit afraid that even new one could behave this way.
Yes I had that problem with several phones from different manufacturers: Atrix, Galaxy S ll and MyTouch4G. It is the 3 party charger that can mess things up. In case of my GSll it was even with the original charger.
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Wlk said:
Anyone noticed this problem? I'm using aftermarket charger (copy of iPhone charger from DX), and after 3 hours of charging phone started behaving strange. While typing, it inserted random letters. The faster I tried to type, the more of random keypresses. Scrolling is almost impossible, because almost immediatelly instead of moving content phone registers touch on screen and tries to behave like that. Only when i put my whole finger with medium pressure and move slowly, I'm able to scroll. Else it just randomly "clicks" on screen.
First I thought that it is some kind of trojan/virus, tested with ESET and no change, restarted phone multiple times, no change. Strange is, that phone was charging since morning and it worked well. Maybe battery is now fully charged and it started behaving like this. After removing it form charger, it starts working correctly again in 5-10s. Tried even different charger from my colleague, same behavior (but it is also OEM without brand name). Tried also reversing charger in outlet, no change. Different outlet no change.
At home I charge with old iPad charger with 2m cable and it never happened...
Assume that I have to get some better charger (original from phone doesnt fit our EU plugs), but still i'm bit afraid that even new one could behave this way.
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Sounds like a noisy charger that is seriously screwing up the touch sensing. Use a high quality charger from Samsung/HTC/Apple, and make sure it is a genuine one.
Ever since sometime yesterday or something. My phone has been steadily discharging whilst plugged in.
I charged my phone to full yesterday and noticed that it was charging a bit slowly.. but eventually it got there.
Then I unplugged it and plugged in a really low battery (4%) to charge it to full overnight (I have 2 batteries)
I woke up to the phone at 26% after an entire night of charging (about 8 hours).
I thought that the battery must be dead. It's a cheap one from Ebay but it has the official sticker on it, but it's a bit creased so it looks like it could be a cheaper one with a fake sticker on it. It always used to last about 20% less than the original one I got with the phone anyway. But that isn't the point.
I thought it must be dead. But I charged it a little before work and nope, it just kept dying. So I started worrying if the charger had died.
Then I just swapped the battery out and decided to use the fully charged one.
After about a days use I went to plug it in and it ALSO started discharging whilst being plugged in.
In fact they seem to discharge FASTER if plugged in.
I immediately thought that the little Wall Socket to USB Adapter had just blown. So I unplugged it and just plugged the phone in via my PC's USB 2.0 Port.. Same thing.. it sits on the same Percentage (%) and then gradually (if I use it at all) it starts to discharge.
It's charging so slowly that if I use it at the same time it'll die. When before I could even have a Skype call and keep it plugged in and it would overcharge through the amount of power I was using.
Does anyone have any ideas? It can't be the battery because both of them are dying no matter one, and they can't have both died. It might not be the little USB charger (although it no longer gets hot like it used to) because if I plug the phone straight into a USB port on my PC (I know the mW is lower but it should still prove if the charger is dead or not) then it still discharges.
Any ideas? I mean... it looks like somehow the USB port is no longer taking a charge? Without my phone I am a dead man.. it will totally mess up my work and everything...
Have you used a different cable? You said you plugged it into your PC USB port but you didn't say with which cable.
I don't have another cable :/ as it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
9/10 it's the cable that's the fault.
It's not proprietary. I walked into a shop and said "2 micro USB cables please" and they both work better. Also my HTC and blackberry micro USB cables both work better. Try another cable. Borrow one if you have to
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I have a micro USB cable.. it's for my HDD and it doesn't fit. It's a little bit too big. The last HDD I had too was the same, just a bit too big. Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
Also, I tried doing a file copy from the phone to my PC and back and forth. The speed is totally fine, really fast.
So could it still really be the phone? I'm a pessimist and I don't see why the cable would just suddenly die... I've already had my phone replaced on one of the 'sudden death' issues like everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if there's yet another hardware fault...
At the moment it's off, and charging from the wall.
EDIT: Maybe it's a Mini-USB not a Micro.. in that case I have 1 Micro USB. Still I think my phone just died somehow overnight................. again.
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it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
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what? yes you can
Well cables are expensive in Finland but I suppose I have no choice but to bike down into town and buy another cable...
Most hdd caddies are indeed mini
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Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
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no, your phone uses a traditional micro USB. and data speed is not really connected to charging speed
New cord seems to have fixed it. 'Hama' brand (Finnish) triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors. Looks a lot higher quality than the traditional Samsung one. (Unshielded, no gold plating)
Also it's a bit longer, which I dunno if that will affect the rate of current. I know that shorter is better. It's 1.8m vs the older 1m.
Seems to be charging properly now, still a bit slow (phone is off) but I suppose that could just be the battery getting used to actually receiving a proper current finally.
Christ and I almost went and just bought an iPhone...
If in the end it was just the cord then €12.95 bought me peace of mind.
EDIT: Scratch that
It won't charge if the phone is on at the same time... it just sits at the same level of power. But if I use it, yeah it starts to discharge.
So basically it's lost the ability to charge whilst being used, and on top of that it did charge pretty slowly when turned off, but at least it did.
Looks like I'm going to have to sort out a way to fix it, then maybe sell it and get something else. I can't handle a phone that's such a disappointment.
The Galaxy S2 was a bit of a let down, to RMAs to Samsung now...
leijonasisu said:
triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors..
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sounds like something Monster cables would sell
Shame that it doesn't seem to have done the trick.
I'm really confused now. The battery I got off the net doesn't seem to be charging really at all, but ever so slowly when the phone is off.
The other battery, my normal OEM one charged sorta slowly but kinda normally I guess..
Really don't know what on earth is going on. It's going to be a total pain to get this thing repaired a second time, and it's been rooted and flashed multiple times. Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
So the oem battery charges normally?
leijonasisu said:
Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
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of course you can, use TA
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
Glebun said:
So the oem battery charges normally?
of course you can, use TA
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Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
tigerporc said:
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
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Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
leijonasisu said:
Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
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I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
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I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
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Since no one replied with a solution I will let you know my fix. I sent it to Samsung for repair under warranty and they have fixed the issue. It is due back tomorrow. Just so anyone else having this issue knows its covered under warranty.
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
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5h1n1gam1 said:
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
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I´m having the same problem. I flashed my S3 i9300 to a cianogenmod 11 ROM. It's a relief to know it's not the ROM. The technical service prom the phone companies here really suck, so i'm taking my S3 to a third party cellphone technician and tell you if he solved my problem.
try this.
dear poster I have a solution that may work for you ,first thing take the battery out of the phone and leaving the battery out plug the charger in .leave it that way for about an hour .then unplug phone pop battery in turn the phone on .the replug the charger while the phone is still on and see if it charges better .