I read a lot of people were claiming much better data reception with the Photon over their old phone, so I thought I'd put it to the test. My old phone was an Evo4G and I still have one in the house in use (completely stock running Android 2.3), so I did a side-by-side comparison test to the Photon and this is what I got using SpeedTest.net:
Tests on 3G network
Evo4G: 279kbps/157kbps/1026ms (download/upload/ping)
Photon4G: 401kbps/211kbps/ 793ms (download/upload/ping)
Results: Photon was 44% faster on download, 34% faster on upload and 23% faster ping
Tests on 4G network
Evo4G: 3203kbps/188kbps/357ms (download/upload/ping)
Photon4G: 6454kbps/563kbps/274ms (download/upload/ping)
Results: Photon was 101% faster on download, 199% faster on upload and 23% faster ping
It is also important to note that the Evo had a lot of trouble running the test in 3G because the signal was so weak. For each good test it took about 10 tries while the Photon had no problems and I never had to retry a test in 3G on the Photon. Results shown are the average of the fastest 8 runs out of 10. This is except for the Evo 3G runs which were the average of only 6 runs because of the difficulty I had getting it to run at all on 3G. Thus, the 3G runs are biased towards the Evo since I removed more than two very slow runs and the differences on 3G may be understated (Evo may be slower than I am reporting on 3G).
Conclusion: Data Reception Rocks on the Photon4G!
This is what I've seen in numerous reviews and although I can't get a hold of one myself yet to do my own testing against my aging Epic, customers have been complaining of reception issues. Any word on others who might be experiencing this issue around you? It might just be a bad batch received.
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This is what I've seen in numerous reviews and although I can't get a hold of one myself yet to do my own testing against my aging Epic, customers have been complaining of reception issues. Any word on others who might be experiencing this issue around you? It might just be a bad batch received.
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What he was saying is, reception is great on the photon. And i agree. This is the best reception I've had on a sprint phone.
Loving this Mopho!
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This is what I've seen in numerous reviews and although I can't get a hold of one myself yet to do my own testing against my aging Epic, customers have been complaining of reception issues. Any word on others who might be experiencing this issue around you? It might just be a bad batch received.
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You misread the data. The Photon is much faster than the Evo4G. The higher the uploading and downloading numbers, the faster the data transfer. The smaller the ping number, the faster the data transfer. The Photon was faster in all measurements.
I will confirm AGAIN that the Motorola Photon absolutely has much better signal strength and faster, more stable data connection on 3G and 4G. This is the main reason I choose to keep it and put my EVO 3D back in the box and in my bottom drawer.
Wow that's impressive! How can anybody argue with that, being you have tested with all those different phones? Good to know. Thanks.
PS: Shhhh.... keep it on the DL!!! Let's hope Sprint doesn't get wind of this awesome reception or they will probably pull a Verizon and cripple the hell out of it so it barely works. Then we're all back to craptastic again.
I have to disagree with you about the Photon's reception 'cause mine SUCKS. I tried updating my profile and it didn't help. I tried updating my PRL several times and each time I got an error. I even tried going to a different part of the hous to update my PRL and it still failed with an error.
I can't even get this phone to connect to the market! Everytime I try I either get a timed out message or a no connection message.
And to add insult to injury it won't let me do a factory reset ( so I can return this piece f junk) until the battery is at 25%. The stupid thing has been on the charger for at least 45 minutes and it won't go past 20%.
On the positive side the voice connection seeems to work just fine. But I didn't get this to be a voice only phone I got it because every review I read said that it had fantastic data reception.
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I have to disagree with you about the Photon's reception 'cause mine SUCKS. I tried updating my profile and it didn't help. I tried updating my PRL several times and each time I got an error. I even tried going to a different part of the hous to update my PRL and it still failed with an error.
I can't even get this phone to connect to the market! Everytime I try I either get a timed out message or a no connection message.
And to add insult to injury it won't let me do a factory reset ( so I can return this piece f junk) until the battery is at 25%. The stupid thing has been on the charger for at least 45 minutes and it won't go past 20%.
On the positive side the voice connection seeems to work just fine. But I didn't get this to be a voice only phone I got it because every review I read said that it had fantastic data reception.
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Sounds like you have an issue with something. Check my thread about faster data speeds see if that helps. Click my name to view my topics.
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Sounds like you have an issue with something. Check my thread about faster data speeds see if that helps. Click my name to view my topics.
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Thanks but I already returned it.
I really think I'm gonna just have to bite the bulle & pay Sprint's ETF so I can try T-Mobile. I'm having even worse reception problems on my Epic 4G.
Why did u return it...it was software or hardware related.....photons kill on signal
U should of tried a full wipe and restore if that didn't fix it then warranty the phone
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Thanks but I already returned it.
I really think I'm gonna just have to bite the bulle & pay Sprint's ETF so I can try T-Mobile. I'm having even worse reception problems on my Epic 4G.
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Even worse on Epic = Photon Reception is *****in
But before you pay the ETF maybe you should just go grab a t-mo phone on contract for a day or two, see if the signal works for you, if it does then drop sprint and have your number ported to Tmo. This could save you the ETF if TMo isn't any better.
Depending on your area, TMos network signal will probably be stronger since they are GSM - takes less antenna to cover area with GSM than CDMA.
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Why did u return it...it was software or hardware related.....photons kill on signal
U should of tried a full wipe and restore if that didn't fix it then warranty the phone
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I did two factory resets & it didn't make any difference.
I might try another Photon. I called Sprint about my EVO 4g's reception problems & they were able to get it working again.
I don't know why I didn't think to try that with the Photon. That was a very nice phone
Or maybe I'll crawl back to Verizon. Verizon just installed a new tower by me in august and they have 4G in my area.
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Have been having issues here in NE MA with horrible 3g, GPS dropping too often and a bad phone signal to the point of not being able to make or receive calls in areas that are marginal...but areas where my EVO always showed 2 bars and worked fine.
In what I would call "strong" signal areas, still had GPS and 3G issues no matter what. What I found with the phone signal is that in these areas, mit works fine, although it fluctuates every few seconds from a full set of bars, to 2 or 0 and then jumps back up again....constantly.
In the "marginal signal" areas where my EVO 4G worked fine and always showed 2 bars, the 3D shows none and won't make or receive a call. What is most perplexing is that even though it is set to "automatic" on the networks, it is not roaming to Verizon...and my buddy taking the ride with me had a full boat signal on his Verizon phone.
I was totally unable to get on the internet in these areas, although I could still send a text.
I don't get it???
Sprint re-provisioned the phone twice, and today a service center wiped and reloaded everything and also claims to have installed a "fifth update" which my phone never got.
My tests were done post upgrade and it did NOTHING to fix these issues.
With your fifth update did you check to see if you had S-OFF? lol
I just sent a reply back to HTC regarding Bluetooth and Roaming data issues and GPS issues... I await their response... However, I may be returning it and going to some other device.
I've found my old Evo3D, and the exchanged one to show 0 bars in places the Evo4G showed 2-3 bars. For the first time in my life, thanks to the Evo3D, I've had a dropped call, and it was in a place the Evo4G gets 2 bars and perfect voice.
Yeah, today at work I missed 3 calls and couldn't read XDA in the bathroom. That was the final straw. I reactivated my 4G, did some tests...and...well...the 3D has gone back home. Perhaps just for now. The 3G radio on that thing sucks. Maybe a radio update will fix it, but I'm not so sure.
Since I'm impatient and have kinda decided to go the Nexus rout from now on I stopped by the sprint store afterwards and did some signal tests with the NexusS4G--which has known 3G reception issues. Well, it had identical bars...that was a good sign, so I dug in a little deeper and it had nearly identical reception as my E4G.
The .3" of screen size will be missed, and it'll be hard to get used to the light weight...but I think tomorrow I'm gunna buy it. Sure, no SD slot, but, 16gb should be pretty damned good...I never did replace my 8gb card, though I did bump the limit a lot. I'm also sure the camera is way better...
...or I'll just wait for the SGS2. I'm not so antsy to get a new phone now after anticipating one so hard and being mostly disappointed. It's funny, the one thing I was the most critical of beforehand ended up being the only thing I'll really miss...the 3D. Lol to that.
Unfortunately I did a stupid thing and traded my EVO 4G in when I "upgraded" to the 3D.
I tried to get Sprint to do a swap....take back the 3D, take away the $150 trade in credit and give me a new or used EVO 4G for the time being and they absolutely refuse to do it without using up my upgrade to get back what I traded in.
Looks like will deal with this phone and return it on day 29, activate my BB Tour (YUCK) and live with that till something reliable comes out hopefully at the end of July or more likely in August.
This sucks.
I am having nearly similar issues. I am dropping calls in area's that have 4-5 bars. I look and when it reconnects it will be down to 0 signal and then back up 4-6 bars. Really odd.
Sad thing is I am coming from ATT and I only have till early next week to decide to stay with sprint or not.
Ohh decisions... not fun and not a good sprint evaluation.
Yeah, I really hope this is something that they can tweak with a radio update. My old Hero got a lot better reception than my Evo 3D.
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I am having nearly similar issues. I am dropping calls in area's that have 4-5 bars. I look and when it reconnects it will be down to 0 signal and then back up 4-6 bars. Really odd.
Sad thing is I am coming from ATT and I only have till early next week to decide to stay with sprint or not.
Ohh decisions... not fun and not a good sprint evaluation.
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I can assure you it is not Sprint...it's the phone. I had the same/similar with my 3D...but never with the 4G.
Download Open Signal Maps. It will show you what tower you're connected to. I noticed something similar with my phone (the signal bars fluctuating). I checked Open Signal and lo-and-behold, my phone was tower jumping between 5 different towers in my area... I didn't even know I had 5 different towers in my area.
Ideally, your phone should lock on to the strongest signal in your area and not jump from strong signal to weak signal to slightly-less-weak signal, to strong again... Also, check out this thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/361044-official-solution-3g-issues-3d.html
This problem doesn't affect everybody. For instance, my brother got a 3d the same day I did, and he's consistently getting 500-700 kbs d/l in the same places I'm getting 11 kbs d/l.
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Download Open Signal Maps. It will show you what tower you're connected to. I noticed something similar with my phone (the signal bars fluctuating). I checked Open Signal and lo-and-behold, my phone was tower jumping between 5 different towers in my area... I didn't even know I had 5 different towers in my area.
Ideally, your phone should lock on to the strongest signal in your area and not jump from strong signal to weak signal to slightly-less-weak signal, to strong again... Also, check out this thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/361044-official-solution-3g-issues-3d.html
This problem doesn't affect everybody. For instance, my brother got a 3d the same day I did, and he's consistently getting 500-700 kbs d/l in the same places I'm getting 11 kbs d/l.
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Do ##786# (or 768, not sure). Then click menu key and due a reset. This will also factory reset your device unfortunately. But I was having eh same problems, getting horrid 3gs speeds of around 50 kps. Once I did this my evo3d is constantly getting better 3g speeds than the 4 other evos in my family.
For some reason a lot of the evo 3d did not get the data set up right on one end or another. This seems to fix it.
Looking at that link now. Yes I've had open signal maps installed and I too have noticed that I am jumping between towers "a lot" say every 10-15 seconds or so. And that can be just sitting still in a parking lot and dropping calls :-( Will take a look and glad to hear that it is more with the phone than the actual network. I may have to downgrade to the 4G or NS4G.
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Do ##786# (or 768, not sure). Then click menu key and due a reset. This will also factory reset your device unfortunately. But I was having eh same problems, getting horrid 3gs speeds of around 50 kps. Once I did this my evo3d is constantly getting better 3g speeds than the 4 other evos in my family.
For some reason a lot of the evo 3d did not get the data set up right on one end or another. This seems to fix it.
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Anybody confirm that this works? My girlfriend's 3D gets a lot worse signal than mine. I'd definitely try this but only if it might actually work. She really doesn't like the factory resets because she has to redo all of her preferences.
Her's is so much more worse than mine that we've been thinking about getting it replaced.
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Do ##786# (or 768, not sure). Then click menu key and due a reset. This will also factory reset your device unfortunately. But I was having eh same problems, getting horrid 3gs speeds of around 50 kps. Once I did this my evo3d is constantly getting better 3g speeds than the 4 other evos in my family.
For some reason a lot of the evo 3d did not get the data set up right on one end or another. This seems to fix it.
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##786# will do a factory reset on your phone. ##72786# will do a "Data Only" reset (i.e. you don't lose any installed apps). I would try that before ##786#. You will need your MSL for both. I have done both. Unfortunately, in my case, the 3g improved for only a couple of hours and then it went back to tower jumping both times. I now have an appointment with the sprint store to replace my 3d later this evening.
do this guys... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371&referrerid=1002610
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Anybody confirm that this works? My girlfriend's 3D gets a lot worse signal than mine. I'd definitely try this but only if it might actually work. She really doesn't like the factory resets because she has to redo all of her preferences.
Her's is so much more worse than mine that we've been thinking about getting it replaced.
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#786## worked to fix my 3G speeds. I was consistently getting under 100 Kbps up and down before walking through this procedure with Sprint a week ago. Since then, latency has gone down and speeds have improved significantly.
It did not fix persistent problems with GPS not locking and having poor signal reception compared to the 4G. Between these issues, overheating and the locked bootloader, I am pretty close to returning this phone (although I like most other aspects of it).
Looks as though the Photon 4G cleared the FCC today.
I think I will live with the 3d a bit longer just in case they come out with some miraculous software fix, otherwise return it, activate the BB until the Photon comes out.
Hopefully, for where I live and work at least it will have much better reception.
That's strange that a few of you guys have had every issue that was reported in some of those awful reviews. I've actually found my 3D has the exact same signal as the 4G sitting right next to it. It also recognizes changes in signal faster than the 4G. I must have been lucky to get one with no issues.
My EVO 3d is straight out of a snoop dog song, my calls are droppin like their hot!
My 4G never did this crap!
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I'm sorry to hear that from you guys.. My experience is the opposite, I'm getting 6 bars in my basement which I used to get 2-3 and I can always stay connected to 4g in the upper parts of my house when my 4g could not..
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That's strange that a few of you guys have had every issue that was reported in some of those awful reviews. I've actually found my 3D has the exact same signal as the 4G sitting right next to it. It also recognizes changes in signal faster than the 4G. I must have been lucky to get one with no issues.
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I don't believe that there is anything wrong with the phone itself, however I do believe that there was a bad batch of radios installed on some of the 3vo's. Like I said, my brother's 3vo is working just fine while mine seems to be a lemon.
I am coming from an Evo 4G. My apartment has always had sub par reception on sprint but now with the Evo 3D it is becoming irritating. In the same places I had 3G, I now am roaming. In a place where I had 2-3 4G bars, I have barely 1. I have tried updating my prl, my profile. One thing that I will note is that 4G on the 1 reported bar is about as good as the 3 bars on the old Evo. However 3G reception is definitely not very good overall.
My question - as I approach the one month I have had this phone, I wonder if I should:
A. Exchange the phone for another 3D. Has anyone heard of reception issues related to hardware? How has this device compared for everyone to the old Evo as far as reception? Do I have a dud?
B. Return it and get an original Evo.
C. Something else - call sprint ask for airwave or something like that.
I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks in advance.
My radio bars do show a tad lower, but I havent really noticed any issues.
I am willing to be some future PRL updates will help this.
My OG Evo was the same around launch time too
Had the same issue vs my old Eris on Verizon. Sprint reset the network which helped some, but I wound up manually changing the PRL to a USCellular one. Gained 4 bars.
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so PRL updates meaning non-sprint developer created? so 2 votes in favor of waiting it out?
berardi said:
I am coming from an Evo 4G. My apartment has always had sub par reception on sprint but now with the Evo 3D it is becoming irritating. In the same places I had 3G, I now am roaming. In a place where I had 2-3 4G bars, I have barely 1. I have tried updating my prl, my profile. One thing that I will note is that 4G on the 1 reported bar is about as good as the 3 bars on the old Evo. However 3G reception is definitely not very good overall.
My question - as I approach the one month I have had this phone, I wonder if I should:
A. Exchange the phone for another 3D. Has anyone heard of reception issues related to hardware? How has this device compared for everyone to the old Evo as far as reception? Do I have a dud?
B. Return it and get an original Evo.
C. Something else - call sprint ask for airwave or something like that.
I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks in advance.
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C.airwave
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C.airwave
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crap I just noticed it requires Broadband ISP already - I don't have internet at my place - does that mean i can't do anything?
berardi said:
crap I just noticed it requires Broadband ISP already - I don't have internet at my place - does that mean i can't do anything?
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Have some friends with different carriers test your area, see which is stronger and use their PRL. That's what I did, told that to the Sprint rep while getting my MSL and he liked the idea (I did hint I would leave if I couldn't get a better signal).
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berardi said:
I am coming from an Evo 4G. My apartment has always had sub par reception on sprint but now with the Evo 3D it is becoming irritating. In the same places I had 3G, I now am roaming. In a place where I had 2-3 4G bars, I have barely 1. I have tried updating my prl, my profile. One thing that I will note is that 4G on the 1 reported bar is about as good as the 3 bars on the old Evo. However 3G reception is definitely not very good overall.
My question - as I approach the one month I have had this phone, I wonder if I should:
A. Exchange the phone for another 3D. Has anyone heard of reception issues related to hardware? How has this device compared for everyone to the old Evo as far as reception? Do I have a dud?
B. Return it and get an original Evo.
C. Something else - call sprint ask for airwave or something like that.
I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks in advance.
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Had the exact same issue and well I returned mine this last Sunday and got a new 3d and well it's better so far. Last week Sprint updated prl over the air and it worked for a minute and then it was back to roaming, dropping calls, battery draining like crazy, sensitive power button. I know it's only Monday but I have not dropped one call or went into roaming yet.
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Had the exact same issue and well I returned mine this last Sunday and got a new 3d and well it's better so far. Last week Sprint updated prl over the air and it worked for a minute and then it was back to roaming, dropping calls, battery draining like crazy, sensitive power button. I know it's only Monday but I have not dropped one call or went into roaming yet.
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That's great. Wow
What did u say to get it switched without the run around ? They gave u new not refurbished right? Did you take it to the store you bought it at or call in?
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Have some friends with different carriers test your area, see which is stronger and use their PRL. That's what I did, told that to the Sprint rep while getting my MSL and he liked the idea (I did hint I would leave if I couldn't get a better signal).
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Verizon is strongest but if I take that PRL then I wont have Sprint 4G will I?
Also how would you load the other PRL?
Thank you!
I had the power button sensitivity issue - where the button presses momentarily caused the power menu to come up instead of going into sleep mode. So I took that phone into Sprint yesterday and they gave me a new phone, within 30 days. Any replacement should be a new phone and not a refurbished one within the initial 30 days of purchase.
Point being is that they new phone to me doesn't pick up a signal as well as the other Evo 3D that I had. We have an Airave at work and the old phone would have max bars and crystal clear, today first day with the new phone was at about 2 or so bars and the one phone call was very well lets just say not so crystal clear.
Recommend you take the phone back and ask them to test it. They can test the phone for you, and worst case swamp it out for you. Don't recommend PRL hacks since those tend to get people kicked out of Sprint due to excessive roaming.
berardi said:
Verizon is strongest but if I take that PRL then I wont have Sprint 4G will I?
Also how would you load the other PRL?
Thank you!
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Sprint 4G is on a different radio than data/voice, WiMax vs CDMA/1Rxx.
If you search for say "carrier name" PRL July 2011, you should be able to find a current file. Download the file, open QPST Service Programming, click the tab "Roam" and put the file location in "Preferred Roaming". A full tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15158246&postcount=1
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Recommend you take the phone back and ask them to test it. They can test the phone for you, and worst case swamp it out for you. Don't recommend PRL hacks since those tend to get people kicked out of Sprint due to excessive roaming.
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Great idea - I think I will do this
berardi said:
That's great. Wow
What did u say to get it switched without the run around ? They gave u new not refurbished right? Did you take it to the store you bought it at or call in?
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Told them it was dropping calls like crazy which it was and the rep said well lets get you a new one. Yeah got a new one from the same store.
berardi said:
I am coming from an Evo 4G. My apartment has always had sub par reception on sprint but now with the Evo 3D it is becoming irritating. In the same places I had 3G, I now am roaming. In a place where I had 2-3 4G bars, I have barely 1. I have tried updating my prl, my profile. One thing that I will note is that 4G on the 1 reported bar is about as good as the 3 bars on the old Evo. However 3G reception is definitely not very good overall.
My question - as I approach the one month I have had this phone, I wonder if I should:
A. Exchange the phone for another 3D. Has anyone heard of reception issues related to hardware? How has this device compared for everyone to the old Evo as far as reception? Do I have a dud?
B. Return it and get an original Evo.
C. Something else - call sprint ask for airwave or something like that.
I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks in advance.
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I don't think you have a dud. Rather than bars, what are your actual speeds using something like Speed Test from the Market. I've had well....more than 3 of these E3D's, lol, and only 1 got half-ass decent speeds out of the box. With some re-provisioning and data reset methods in the General section I got all of them to set up correctly on the network.
With this evo 3d i cant seem to get a decent data speed during the day time, at night i can get like 500kbs and during the day nothing over 150kb takes forever to download small files from market, i was a mile from the tower today and i still only had like 37% signal strength and was connected at 1x speed, ive tried the data reset. Ive tried calling sprint and htc and no one seems to know of the issue, i dunno if i should keep this phone and hope for a fix or take it back, im dropping calls and cant hear people at home now. im looking for you all to shed some light on this situation
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Today was especially dismal in downtown Chicago. Went roaming a good 3 or 4 times.
Never had these issues with 4G...
Ya I'm having terrible data speeds too...tried all the hacks, and they helped a bit. But still really bad..I have a tp2 as well and it slowed down a bunch around the beginning of the year as well...Sprint offered an airrave but I don't have cable or dsl so I'm stuck...if you got cable ask retentions for one...they really tried to help me..YMMV..but worth a shot...oddly enough I got a tower Sprint tower at the end of my property, go figure..
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I have a feeling a radio update coming is going to help a lot.
Trouble is I heard August 1st for that. Can't believe they wouldnt run an update (or 2!) Before July 24
I'm in socal btw
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I'm starting to wonder if there isn't a bad batch of phones out there. A lot of people are reporting problems like this. I got two phones on the same day. One of them is fine, the other is crazy slow on the data connection. I'm going to go through re-provisioning and everything, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up replacing it. Which sucks because I put a screen protector on it.
Yea i think its a combination of both..I had an e3d that got great reception but blown earpiece..replaced it and now speeds have dropped significantly..question is can it be fixed with an ota
Thats what im wondering wether i should replace it or hope for an update
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I've been checking mine next to my wifes Og EVO and they run neck and neck on speedtest.. usually 150 or lower.. however, but hit 450 last Sunday night around 8pm..
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guys, your phone is working just fine. Its the network thats having the issues. you may have noticed that it got worse when you got your new phone cause a lot of people were buying the evo3d and it slowed down the network. Sprint has major issues with congestion in some areas right now. I know michigan is really bad right now.
hockey4life0099 said:
guys, your phone is working just fine. Its the network thats having the issues. you may have noticed that it got worse when you got your new phone cause a lot of people were buying the evo3d and it slowed down the network. Sprint has major issues with congestion in some areas right now. I know michigan is really bad right now.
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Not necessarily true. I just did a speed test on both of my Evo 3D's at the same time sitting right next to each other. One phone got a ping of 1346ms and the other got a ping of 238ms. There is clearly something wrong with the first phone. It's noticeably slower when doing any task that uses the data connection.
horrible speeds here. just did a speed test, 51kb down, 6kb up. typical speeds for me since getting the phone. i have one tower east of me, one tower west, both within a mile.
Look to see if your evdo is set to cdma only... Changing mine to auto has made my data speeds normal again
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Not necessarily true. I just did a speed test on both of my Evo 3D's at the same time sitting right next to each other. One phone got a ping of 1346ms and the other got a ping of 238ms. There is clearly something wrong with the first phone. It's noticeably slower when doing any task that uses the data connection.
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My 3d sucked and would always get high ping/low data (under 100kbps). I called there was no outage and they said to take my phone in... I never did due to the "service center" is about 120miles away but they gave a month of free service (130 dollars)
Because I've had a nexus s 4g,EVO 4G, and now a EVO 3d all with the same problem...
About a week ago I ran a speed test and i hit 2.1mbps download... And have been getting great data speed ever since...
I dunno what happened I think it was just the network but even during "peak hours". I still get 1600kbps so I guess it worked its self out :/
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nate420 said:
My 3d sucked and would always get high ping/low data (under 100kbps). I called there was no outage and they said to take my phone in... I never did due to the "service center" is about 1200 miles away but they gave a month of free service (130 dollars)
Because I've had a nexus s 4g,EVO 4G, and now a EVO 3d all with the same problem...
About a week ago I ran a speed test and i hit 2.1mbps download... And have been getting great data speed ever since...
I dunno what happened I think it was just the network but even during "peak hours". I still get 1600kbps so I guess it worked its self out :/
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Lucky you..hope same happens here..I've never gotten those speeds on 3g..although I've had friends in other carriers hit that consistently
firmbiz94 said:
Lucky you..hope same happens here..I've never gotten those speeds on 3g..although I've had friends in other carriers hit that consistently
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Well I'd say call in and "*****".
My aunt has had sprint in our town for 3 years and she never got anything close to 600kbps as they advertised...
Now for some reason they must have upgraded our towers or something.
But either way call in ***** and get a few dollars off your bill... No point paying for a service if its not what they advertise. Or if your unhappy
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I took mine to the store today, they ran diagnostics for an hour and a half....of course, runs okay in the store because of the great reception, but they did notice that it would fluctuate greatly. They said to keep an eye on it, may have to return it to the place where I got it and exchange. This has been very frustrating. I go to hit the Internet and nothing, keep getting error code 68 often. They better fix their network issues soon (if that's what it is) before I go back to the EVO 4G.
It's def a network issue. I congestion issues. It drags during peak hours and runs ok at night. I ran speed tests on multiple phones all were awful. EVO, epic, and 3D. Plus sms was down for a few hours. Def network issues!
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I took mine to the store today, they ran diagnostics for an hour and a half....of course, runs okay in the store because of the great reception, but they did notice that it would fluctuate greatly. They said to keep an eye on it, may have to return it to the place where I got it and exchange. This has been very frustrating. I go to hit the Internet and nothing, keep getting error code 68 often. They better fix their network issues soon (if that's what it is) before I go back to the EVO 4G.
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Sprint stores suck..before I returned my first e3d I called cs and they made a service ticket and sent me to a Sprint store .they told me where to go..anyways I get there and they act like there are aggravated that Sprint cs sent me there and said they have nothing to do with Sprint..looked like a Sprint store to me..anyways they tell me they can't run diagnostics because there is no equipment to do so yet..and since I was in my thirty day Window they wouldn't touch it..kinda sucked because the Phone was great besides the service..which maybe could of Been fixed If they would of tried..anyways returned it, got one with a blown speaker ..another return..Now I got another one with a seemingly weak radio..better than the first one at least..but not even closeto the one with the blown speaker....thank god for my airwave. I get 1.5 mb/s with that at least
This is probably posted in this thread or some other thread, but when I got my phone and activated it, I had Sprint do a data refresh/reset...whatever the hell they call it and I updated my PRL and what-not. I have not had any data issues beyond normal.
Although for the life of me I can't seem to get a 4G connection, but that could just be the area I'm in. It's very spotty here in Apple Valley.
And no...no connection to Cupertino...the city is really called Apple Valley. There's one in California too.
Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
Well, it's Sprint, so that's normal 3G speeds...
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
my 3g used to be fire!!! now it seems as if everybody has joined sprint and the network is hella saturated!!!!!!!
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Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
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Depends on your location. If you check the Sprint forums, there are tons of people complaining about data speeds all over the country. There's certain areas in the Bronx where I have full 4G and only getting 0.50mbps down...it's crazy!
I would say do a ##3282# and make sure your EVDO is set to auto not CDMA. Menu>commit changes & reboot. Update PRL then profile. I guess you've done that?
i was told that for the last month and a half it was because of thunderstorms. i asked him since there are just a few towers between the 44 miles i drive to work, how did all those storms only hit sprint's antennae and not verizon's that are on the same towers?
i talked to a gm at the sprint store last night and he said they're having major data issues and there's no time frame of when they'll ever be fixed. just outside that sprint store i have full 5 bars on 3g and only get 100kb/s. i made sure i was outside of the sprint store's range just in case they had a 3g airave.
they did fix the slow data in my city and most of the areas where i drive to work. now min of 600Kb/s and up to 1.8Mb/s
I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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they will let it go pretty far. currently the tower that services my house will be so overloaded during the evening hours that speeds are 0-5k. last night between 7-11pm 3g was unuseable and 4g was zooming at 20k.
ive had dates of april 30th, may 30th, june 30th, and now july 30th as dates when the towers were to be upgraded. i honestly think they just throw dates around so they can get you off the phone.
Same here. During peak hours data is unusable without a wifi connection. I called so many times to put service tickets on the local towers. It's so fustrating. Everytime I call I'm on the phone for like 40mins tell them it's not my phone, it's a network issue. They just don't get it. BTW does anyone have the number for advanced sprint tech support? I'm going to keep calling until they fix the issue.
This is what bugs me so much paying the $10 Premium data Fee. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind paying the fee if I actually get premium data, but 100kbs down is not premium data. Something has to be done. What the hell are theying doing with that fee? They certainly aren't putting it back into their network. I hope Sprint doesn't get the Iphone because it will only get worse.
You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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This what I was going to say. LOL
Welcome to Sprint the Nation Wide slowest 3G available.
Welcome to Sprint-The (hope you dont need to download that)Now Network
First, try this:
http://bit.ly/qsq8Tn
[MOD] Data Latency (Slow Data) Fix
And second, it is not unusual. I have tried to play online games(BFBC2 etc.) via Wi-Fi hotspot. With poor success. Reasons for this is poor connection(long range to Cell-towers) network overcapacity etc. etc.
Shutting phone's Ciphering should raise U/D speed as above thread say, but I guess that there is not any mindblowing way to fix it. Updating radios would help but.
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I said it once and I'll say it again Location, Location, Location. I am Cali bay area(Currently in Lafayette, CA) and my Evo 4G just ran 962k down and 656k up 187 ping. Evo 3d same time test ran 164 ping 1038k down and 609k up. Now at my house in El Sobrante, CA about 15 minutes away I would not come close to touching that speed. Usually around 50k or worse. One thing is I never rely on 3g to do anything for me. I have wifi at home and work and at times 4g. If I am in 3g only location I do not expect to get anything important done.
Edit: Keep in mind I also did the speed fix on both phones. Have to have msl for that.
Here are a couple images for you one is my Verizon 3G Xoom and the other my EVO 3D. Lets face it Sprint speed sucks.
Those with poor eyes site the Xoom says:
Down:
1303.7
1331.6
Up
1455.7
1863.5
Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Same here and yes on the lack of sprint customers in some areas. I was on the very poor side of town earlier this week. I was getting 1.3-1.9mb down on 3g lol.
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You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
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Actually I'm not 1x. I have a few programs to tell me what network I'm on and I'm definetly getting those speeds on EVDO Rev A. You can use Battery Monitor and go to "Tests" and it will tell you what network you are using or you can use Open Signal and go to maps and it will also tell you. I'm definetly getting these speeds on 3G (EVDO Rev A) Not 1x!
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
500 up
but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
I'm getting about 60 down/up, although I was on my og evo too...
It'll be nice once we get the 3g tweaks in roms
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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Mine is that way as well close to home speeds suck at work they are good lol. either place doesn't matter to much as both have WiFi but it sucks when I'm driving around soon tho soon all will be better....
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so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
500 up
but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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Me either, just common sense.
While a better antenna may help I wouldn't expect to see drastic improvements.
Sprint 3G is just plain crap right now, in most locations anyway.
Surprisingly at work I get over 2megs down sometimes, nowhere else though.
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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My point exactly. I got slightly better speeds with the Photon over the Evo 3D but it seems some people are expecting to see dramatic improvements.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am seeing the same.
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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As much as I hate to say this..here in North Houston, the speeds are BAD. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd never gotten as many dropped or failed 3G connections on my OG Evo as I'm getting with this phone. Could be b/c NV is working itself out..but it's quite frustrating to watch the 3G signal keep disappearing and reappearing.
Because of that, I started fiddling with some old settings and found a way to boost SIGNAL strength but not 3G speeds..see link below and hopefully someone can figure something out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26549367#post26549367
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
Tokynet said:
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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to be honest rooting your phone has nothing to do with your 3g connection ect... it dont efect it in anyway..
woody296 said:
That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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That is not even remotely true. If you feel the need to argue it, throw written proof in your reply.