[Q] Pure Honeycomb vs Touchwiz - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Still debating if to update or not. What does everyone else prefer?
Did you do the official update and lose your unlocked bootloader? Or did you flash a touchwiz ux rom?

Can't speak for everyone else, but I'm liking the TouchWiz UI add-ons.

While I like the touchwiz additions the bugs that have been added alongside of it are really detracting from it being a purely positive addition

I'm not a fan of the design elements of the update, nor do I find the additional features particularly useful. However, the performance and stability improvements are significant enough for me to not consider getting a stock rom flashed 'till it's equally as good. I use my tab a lot for simply browsing, and the improvements in the browser (not counting the ghastly tab colours/design, which I've been forced to remove entirely) are simply brilliant.
As far as the bootloader issue goes - I'd have preferred to keep mine unlocked, like everyone would, but considering you can still install CWM with ease it doesn't seem like an issue right now (at least for my purposes).
ps. A quick search/browse would have revealed at least 1 other big thread addressing this question.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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TouchWizz all the way

Hey guys, first post here, but a long time lurker
I purchased my 10.1 wifi tab last night, so of course I instantly went into geek-out mode. I rooted my tab, then I flashed the ROM to a custom version of TW. I used the latest Starburst ROM (based off of the original TW). Here's some things I noticed:
TW is definitely the sexier option, however I felt like I lost the "snapiness" that vanilla Honeycomb had. I've also read that other owners are saying that TW(Starburst) is faster and smoother than vanilla HC. I think tonight once i get home from work I'll try a non-stock kernel to see if that speeds up the ROM.
The other issue I had is more of a personal preference...TW installs a lot of Samsung apps (mail, music, etc.)...I'm trying to keep an open mind, but as of now I prefer the original google apps.
Overall I'd say TW is very well done and you at least owe it to yourself to check it out, whether it be the stock version or a UX version. Just remember nandroid is your friend! Make a backup and then start experimenting so you can find out for yourself

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Should i keep Sence UI?

Hi, wasn't sure whether to post this here or in development, so feel free to move it if necessary
I'm currently running Villainrom 12 and love it, but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
I've noticed villain have now got a 2.2 ROM out, but my only worry is that it does not include Sense UI. Can someone please point out the main differences between having the Sense UI and not?
and possibly conclude with there opinion on whether i should stick with Sense, or bin it for the new improved 2.2 Rom...?
cheers for any advice.
dael_hero said:
but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
cheers for any advice.
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I believe you've answered your own question
but while I'm always looking for something new, I also want it to be Improved .
Ive flashed many ROM's before (Mainly Villain) and all Include Sense, but just want some advice on whether I should switch.
just some opinions and maybe a comparison of features/usability would help.
Could even start a small debate about the 2 different types of ROM's .
I've tried different Roms since Sept 2009, but I've always found stock ones are the most stable. I'm currently using stock 2.1 found un villain forums with a2sd and root. Very fast and with sense. Vanilla Roms tend to drain the battery very quickly. I'm a very heavy phone user and at work coverage is poor. Try them out, you might disagree with me. Oh, and let's not compare specific Roms, they're too different to one another.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
I also get bored with certain ROMs quite quickly and am changing constantly. I started off with Sense and then moved to Vanilla, have been back to Sense and then back again. I'm currently running Vanilla as like the look and feel of it. However I am thinking of going back to Sense, once I can find a good theme as I personally dislike the stock Rosie theme. That's the one thing that puts me off. That said the integration with Facebook and the widgets are a big plus. I know there are other apps and Launchers out there that can do similar things but not quite sure the integration is as good.
Another thing is that Sense UI was designed for the Hero and that means that with a good sense ROM all the hardware works as it should, meaning the LEDs (for notifications). I find these don't work with Vanilla ROMs as yet, although they're getting there.
If you want a change from Villain check out SenseHero. It looks great and is very fast and stable. The guy who created it is currently working on a newer version also.
God, that was long

[Q] WARNING NOOB: Which rom?

DISCLAIMER: This thread contains NOOB questions!
Hi all,
First of all I guess most of you really dislike these kind of threads. But I am reading xda for 2 months now, searching all over the place for some answers. Probably read almost every guide etc. but I really can't get my head around this amount of information. So here I am with the age old question: Which rom should I install?
I ask this question here because of all the fora I visited xda seems the most knowledgeable.
So here is the situation. I was running Samsung 2.3.4 with launcher pro. But this was all a bit buggy and didn't feel right. So I was really glad to see the 2.3.5 update. I was still thinking this would contain gtalk video chat and ad hoc connection detection. But I was mistaken.
First I thought maybe install the most recent stock version. But as far as I can see this is also still 2.3.5 and doesn't include the previous mentioned features (correct me if I am wrong).
Currently I am this far as I probably "need" a custom wrong but the list seems endless and the one seems better than the other. And I feel a bit lost.
I looked at the following so far: Lite'ning; Oxygenrom; Cyanogen and Villainrom.
Lite'ning rom looks nice and fast but this much blue isn't good for the screen and I hear development is halted so probably not.
Villainrom, I can't find really good video's and I can't find that much info. So no for now.
Oxygenrom looks fast but I also not sure yet.
The best candidate seems to be Cyanogen right now.
So what am I looking for. Besides the two mentioned features above (gtalk video, ad hoc) I am not really sure if I am ready to unlock yet (but if it is necessary). Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either (duh) and I don't want to miss any features (FM radio for example). Oh and I am bit of a minimalist when it comes to looks. So that is secondary .
Hopefully I didn't bug you all to much and I am really looking forward to your opinions and experiences (good and bad). And I am still open for suggestions.
Carnelain
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Wait for II1 firmware .
jje
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only)
have a look in the android development forums (original & derivative) for a bigger choice, theres plenty out there.
Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either
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who is?
Sorry what exactly do you mean?
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only
He means not for users who know little about flashing and roms ,Its the most difficult rom of them all .
You have read the posts but not understood them otherwise you would not be asking your question what rom .
You could go to one of the Rom Kitchens and build your own .
But in your shoes i would read the details on the latest custom roms what they have and whats missing .
Minimal look is stock or MIU .
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Safe as in what ??? i dont see reports of unsafe jigs .
jje
I think OP's question is great, there's a lot of info on XDA but I can't find ONE stable/popular/regular thread discussing ROM vs ROM. The which ROM is best thread always pop up but then die after a couple of posts.
I think it would be great if users posted when they switch ROM commenting the switch, and if other users who tried more than 1 ROM posted their experience.
I'm a long time XDA user (Nexus One->Captivate->Nexus S->SGSII), have run a bunch of ROMs and read XDA EVERYDAY (multiple times lol) and read every post in LeoROM, Cognition, JKay and Siyah Threads but still I have the same question as the OP (was about to make a thread about it).
On my SGSII I've only run Cognition (since v1.0 to latest 1.5.1, gone through 2.3.3 and 2.3.4), also gone through all modems till latest KI4 and kernels (ninph, speedmod) till latest Siyah 1.8.
I've been thinking about switching ROM for some weeks now (want 2.3.5!) but couldn't decide, was about to convert to Leomar's ROM but then encountered other ROMs that look good and have a bunch of followers: Cristelko, DlevROM, TouchX Power, and now even more options!: Cyanogen stable out now and Cognition 2.3.5 announced coming soon. I hate being undecided!!! Was really decided on LeoROM, just about to switch, but now found all these other seemingly very good ROMs!
I'm a flash addict, love updating ROM, Modem & Kernel, but I HATE wiping! And I don't like to switch ROMs or update from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 without wiping. So I want to decide what to flash!!! I'm not going to try all of them (I don't have the time and I hate wiping) so I have to rely on other's opinions, reading a lot (following the changelogs) and then make a definite decision!
So please guys, anybody who has tried more than 1 ROM, can you share your experiences?
To check out the most popuar roms, look at how big the discussion thread is (reply, views).
Also a suggestion can be the one to check "veterans" signature, usually this ppl use the most stable/bugless firmware.
For my personal choice im on Cyanogen but yes, thats not for beginners.
My 2nd choice is the "nandroidbackup" of my Black S2 (check my signature) a lot easier to install and beginners ready
Also Miui is a good choice (and dosnt look like the stock tw rom) but got BT/TV Out bug for now, so if you need a stable bt it's not the choice.
To end my 5 cents, i think it's better for you, try out 3-4 roms and pick the one you feel better with.
I think the choice is pretty individual, some ppl loves a rom that some other really hate and so.
Its very simple their is no best rom its users choice . Your preferred rom may be a themed rom i hate themes .
jje
batista is realy fast and stable and has a pretty fresh look. but i have some batt issues with one of my three SII it should be something else
leomar75's revolution is pretty good and highly themeable
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insanity ii has pretty good batt live but is too simple for my likes
I don't recommend you flashing CM7 since it's harder than flashing samsung firmware based ROMS. Unless you really want it and then well, it's not that hard anyway.
Anyway, if you have root installing gtalk with video is easy, you just need a root explorer app, I use FIle Expert becasue it's free. Just follow this guide step by step and you're done http://samsunggalaxys2blog.com/sams...1-3-with-video-calling-for-samsung-galaxy-s2/
If you want a custom ROM, maybe you could try checkROM www.checkrom.com since it has good support for themes and stuff. And it is updating and will update with each relevant firmware release. And flashing it is just simple. Well hope it helps.
For last, if you really want to go with CM7, I can say that it's the best ROM I've flashed. I just started with it a couple of days ago and you can feel the smoothness inmediatly which I never had in samsung firmware. Anyway there are some bugs, you loose samsung apps like polaris office which I used a lot, FM radio I think doesn't work for now, and the camera app is worse than the samsung one that comes with the phone. But for me at least it's worth it, the main funcionality is there, bluetooth, wifi, etc.... Well, if you decide to flash it please don't use ROM manager becasue it won't work. I can help you with the steps i did if you want, so pm me if you need it because I probably won't be looking at this thread again.
Good luck!
I have used CM6 for Sony Xperia X10i. But really what I want is something that is lightweight and good battery life. I usually always install Nemus Launcher and a horde of my fav. apps. I am not concern about the themes as I never use the default themes. What I want is the built in SIP for GB over 3G. Can someone recommend a ROM for me to use? I have already rooted my phone.
I'd suggest VillainRom. Its stock, fast, and has the best battery of all KI3 roms in my opinion. It all really depends on what kind of rom what you want!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Just trying out the X-Power ROM ... so far so good...
Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
Carnelain said:
Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
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There's an lgCamera app in the market which I found better than the one that comes in CM7, you could try it and see if it works best for you. As for battery life, it seems to be better in the latest nightlies (the latest beeing 87). IF you're in stable version I HIGHLY suggest you to move to the latest nightly since there are lots of thing fixed that in "stable" version are not working right.
Thanks for the advice tomascunill. I tried the camera app and although it has the touch to focus feature I am not really blown away by it. Probably because of the lack of image stabilisation. But I'll find something that suits.
Futhermore I updated to the latest nightly. I wonder what issues are resolved. Does anybody know where to find the change logs? And I was wondering about another thing I installed the stable version because I expected it to be, well..., stable. But a better question might be how unstable are nightly's?
Must say I still like my phone but now the galaxy nexus (I liked nexus prime better) is out I feel like I jumped the gun. Well lets wait and see what cyanogen will do with ICS or what ICS stock looks like.
The best ROM is the one you choose. U need to test many rom to have your own opinion.
My favorite is LeoMar 2.7.1
I prefer stock ROM i mean without too much modifications.
LeoMar is a "stock" ROM that you can easily personnalised.
I use :
SpeedMod [Kernel]
Fly in [Animation]
And some mods.
This rom provides me the best battery life.
you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
aussois said:
you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
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Don't get me wrong but I want to get as far away from touchwiz as possible. I probably have the term stock confused. I always thought it meant just android.
Best ROM threads are subjective.....
Best thing to do is take your time to read ROM threads and make a backup of ROM using then flash away find what ROM/Radio suits you best.
On that note thread closed.

Best Custom Rom Suited for Individual Needs

I could have sworn i saw a post on here asking "What's your fave Rom/ What Rom are you using" but i cant seem to find it anywhere. Regaurdless, if i get yelled at, i get yelled at.
Wanted to know your all's opinions on latest roms available. Maybe you can help me out for the best choice. This post is not to discriminate but rather to pick the best choice for my needs for the moment.
I use wifi alot
I stream movies alot
I am a FB addict
I take lots of vids and pics
I text and make lots of calls
I change widgets frequently
I use the browser alot
and yes i LOVE S VOICE!!
So with those things said, i am currently running the latest Team Perfection Rom and the only complaint i have is the freeze ups. Once it even froze while i was trying to call someone back. The Contacts froze. I like this rom alot and i am no stranger to the flashing/modding community, just a bit rusty. Which Rom would you all refer to me to get less lag (prefer none at all) or which changes should i make the the Team Perfection rom? Any responses would be amazing! Thank you in advance!:cyclops:
If you use the s-apps, and pen a lot, I would get a mostly stock rom, such as this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933
If not, getting the cm9 nighties will give a pretty unmatched experience.
howdy there, well the function of the s pen for me has become a need...just like the fact that I can snap shot and just draw/write on it...very cool, and all the stock ROM have this, but there are few of the custom ROMs that still keep the ics trend going, since the darkness I like within the theming, Black Star has this, and I use as my DD, there are the Official ICS, Pure & Odexed & Stock Rooted, Zipaligned, Deodexed...so on these are great stable and lag free imho. But most all the Custom ROMs are...so like you mentioned it will be your call.
those requirements you listed...are must like mine...but not FB...
I have a thread put together with all the goodies around our threads, see if anything you see grabs you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
if you have questions...I am not an expert, but just holler, there are lots of good, knowledgable peps around here....kk
graveghoul said:
I could have sworn i saw a post on here asking "What's your fave Rom/ What Rom are you using" but i cant seem to find it anywhere. Regaurdless, if i get yelled at, i get yelled at.
Wanted to know your all's opinions on latest roms available. Maybe you can help me out for the best choice. This post is not to discriminate but rather to pick the best choice for my needs for the moment.
I use wifi alot
I stream movies alot
I am a FB addict
I take lots of vids and pics
I text and make lots of calls
I change widgets frequently
I use the browser alot
and yes i LOVE S VOICE!!
So with those things said, i am currently running the latest Team Perfection Rom and the only complaint i have is the freeze ups. Once it even froze while i was trying to call someone back. The Contacts froze. I like this rom alot and i am no stranger to the flashing/modding community, just a bit rusty. Which Rom would you all refer to me to get less lag (prefer none at all) or which changes should i make the the Team Perfection rom? Any responses would be amazing! Thank you in advance!:cyclops:
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My First Impressions about the LegacyXperia CM10.1 and CM10.2

I currently Using Custom Roms for the past 6 months.... I make my phone (Xperia Mini Pro (SK17i)) as the tester for every ROMs. I also use it for personal. Well... Im not hating the Stock rom from sony, but sometimes im really desperate about those latest ROMs like Android 4.1 - 4.3 (and Even ANDROID 4.4 KITKAT). So, I try to make my phone's bootloader unlock, by using the official method. the DRMs are lost but it's ok, because i dont buy any musics online.
After I unlocked the Bootloader, I try the other roms... Im always want to see every post in every thread about those roms, until I saw this LegayXperia which is kinda cool.
So... here is my Very First Impressions about the CM10.1 and CM10.2 by LegacyXperia.... The System UI is much similar to the stock google ROMs, but this is the best roms that i can get, because of some reasons:
1. I like the Stock UI (not the sony UI from ICS).
2. I want the Rom that has good memory management, no more no less.
3. And lastly, It updates constantly such as builds and realeases.
There are the Few bugs, but The developers really tried their best as much as they could do, as long as the Roms got the best performance, I expreimented the tweaks and bandwidths and stuff. I try to fix the issues of my phone such as overheat, the top part of the screen isnt responding, and the battery draining issues. I applied the tweaks from different thread and it works flawlessly, no battery drain issues (governor tweak), no touchscreen issues (touch screen fix), and the bandwidth is much stable(change bandwidth). I cant remember those links, but you have to try check it out on the other threads or seach at google, it might be help.
NOTE: im not judging other roms. I just sharing my thoughts about these ROMs.
You should post this kinda of stuff in the dedicated ROMs thread in the android development section. And please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969555
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[Q] ROM Recommendations?

Hey all --
I'm running stock on my evolte and with no news out of HTC recently about updates, I'm thinking I should go with something else. I'd like more space for apps so I'd like something with the new partition format.
I'd also like a ROM where everything works (gps, wifi, camera, etc.), but when reading through all of the threads for various ROMs, it's a challenge to know what works/doesn't for each of them.
I don't mind Sense, but have no problem switching to a more stock android experience either.
Summing up what I'm looking for:
-Want to run a newer version of Android
-Need a ROM where everything works
-Can be with Sense or without
-I also would like a ROM that has better battery life, if possible
-I don't really care if it's infinitely customizable, though I would like to run Dashclock (or have a ROM with similar notifications)
Any recommendations? CM11? The test version of 4.3.1 that HTC released? Something else?
Many thanks!
Viper is solid for me.
Greetings,
Firstly questions belong in Q&A.
Secondly these types of threads never end well.
My advice is read and flash until you find something that meets your needs.
That being said thread closed.
Thanks,
BD619

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