Should i keep Sence UI? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, wasn't sure whether to post this here or in development, so feel free to move it if necessary
I'm currently running Villainrom 12 and love it, but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
I've noticed villain have now got a 2.2 ROM out, but my only worry is that it does not include Sense UI. Can someone please point out the main differences between having the Sense UI and not?
and possibly conclude with there opinion on whether i should stick with Sense, or bin it for the new improved 2.2 Rom...?
cheers for any advice.

dael_hero said:
but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
cheers for any advice.
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I believe you've answered your own question

but while I'm always looking for something new, I also want it to be Improved .
Ive flashed many ROM's before (Mainly Villain) and all Include Sense, but just want some advice on whether I should switch.
just some opinions and maybe a comparison of features/usability would help.
Could even start a small debate about the 2 different types of ROM's .

I've tried different Roms since Sept 2009, but I've always found stock ones are the most stable. I'm currently using stock 2.1 found un villain forums with a2sd and root. Very fast and with sense. Vanilla Roms tend to drain the battery very quickly. I'm a very heavy phone user and at work coverage is poor. Try them out, you might disagree with me. Oh, and let's not compare specific Roms, they're too different to one another.
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I also get bored with certain ROMs quite quickly and am changing constantly. I started off with Sense and then moved to Vanilla, have been back to Sense and then back again. I'm currently running Vanilla as like the look and feel of it. However I am thinking of going back to Sense, once I can find a good theme as I personally dislike the stock Rosie theme. That's the one thing that puts me off. That said the integration with Facebook and the widgets are a big plus. I know there are other apps and Launchers out there that can do similar things but not quite sure the integration is as good.
Another thing is that Sense UI was designed for the Hero and that means that with a good sense ROM all the hardware works as it should, meaning the LEDs (for notifications). I find these don't work with Vanilla ROMs as yet, although they're getting there.
If you want a change from Villain check out SenseHero. It looks great and is very fast and stable. The guy who created it is currently working on a newer version also.
God, that was long

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Htc sense 2.5 sucks?

Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
Broman400 said:
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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There is a landscape fix Here
XERO_Racer said:
i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
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Exactly very good point !
You should try develooping and programming yourself before criticizing others' hardwork.
and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo
here
theknub said:
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
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Exactly I agree.
licht77 said:
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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If you have a clock + weather on the home page and if you have a twitter tab in ur slider then its SENSE2.5=manila2.5=TF3D 2.5.
If you have just the clock on the main page then it is TF3D2.1=Manila2.1
I Request MODs to close this thread.
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
Stupid post
HTC sense was developed for the more advanced next gen phones.
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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Azik. Google up Max Ultimate... allows up to 20 shortcuts. Personally, it's the only way I was able to use 2.5.
I think the original poster was just stating his opinion that he didn't like Sense 2.5. But you guys are acting like Apple Fanboys going ballistic and coming out so rude...
I don't like it sense 2.5 either...
As much as this forum is to praise people's work, we can't be doing ONLY that all the time. sometimes the work sucks and needs to be said that way.
I don't think its chef's fault or anything and I appreciate the time each chef puts in. But these days the forum is full of latest cutting edge software THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK WELL with tweaking, fixing bugs, do this and do that,etc...
I have gone back to older stable ROMs. I have the luxury of trying out these things because of the hard and good work of the chefs, the forum and the user community. Thank you all.
Have a nice day, everyone.
I love sense 2.5
It rocks! Maybe not for u but it is great for me
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and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo here
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
You guys who are complaining about 2.5 do realise that its not actually intended to work on the Touch Pro don't you? The version that we are luckily able to run has been ported over from different phones (leo iirc?) which has more power available to it, and a different resolution, amongst many other differences.
So we are not able to run an official HTC final-polished-ready-to-go version of it, and we NEVER will..we get a hacked together port put together by some very talented people on these boards.
So you can justifyably say that current implementations of it has bugs, is unstable, has missing/overlapping icons/graphics or speed issues..but these are not HTC Sense issues.
Personally I really like it but don't run it day to day because of a few issues with the new messenging client when you have more than a few text messages (takes forever to load!), BUT I like sense itself..the questions of if its stable or not, and if its a good bit of software are completely different, and its not fair on HTC or the guys on this board to mix them up..
Just my 2c..
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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Sense doesn't suck. It's your phone. It wasn't designed to run on it for a reason...
LEO DUSK Rocks
This my second day on the "Leo" Sense 2.5 Dusk and it "ROCKS" NRGZ28 roms are great. Waiting to see what he does next!
madnish30 said:
But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
Discussion
azik said:
Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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I second this. Also to the first poster, you can try a hard reset or re flash a new rom. I have had some issues with 2.5 myself and lately the new 2.5 roms seem much faster and stable. The chefs put a lot of work into making a rom, so I can see why they get upset,but on the same note its nice to vent about things when something is not working. When I had problems with 2.5 I decided to stick with 2.1 until recently , and now I really like 2.5. I am going to flash a 2.1 probably later today and see which I like best, but I am willing to bet its the 2.5 roms. 2.5+MaxManila=Bliss
lyu370 said:
Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
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Yes it speeds up the whole Manile working all together the the GFx Boost or NEO GFx.

Sitting on the fence... all the ROMS seem to be not worth it.

After reading this forum for quite a while, am i the only person who's sitting on the fence when it comes to ROMs?
All the ROMs which i checked out have one problem or another.... either not stable, slower than stock, buggy, or lack in one department or another. I don't really see the point of updating to any ROMs if there are some unresolved issues.
Is there any 2.0 based roms which are not buggy and which have all functions working perfectly? Or should i wait until the official ROM comes out?
copying my thread?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627494
Didn't see your thread... sorry. Seems like we are in the same boat.
that is why i stay with modaco rom xD faster then the original & keep those most function with speed boost.
Seems to be the sae reasonas to why im also trying to dig into customising roms. Though,thus far, any un-official rom i have tested thus far seems to be atleast just as stable as any official rom, except they tend to be alot faster. Might be worth it to try and get some sort of guide started once i know how it all works. One of the issues i didnt manage to find anything on yet is signing a modified rom .zip-archive.
One thing ill definately share when ive completed it will be a very stripped down sense 2.1 rom, and then try to see where i can get from there. Im currently in-between villain rom and the 1.6 beta rom with cooker app, switching back and forth from one another...
Atleast that tought me how to backup and restore things should i keep you all updated if anything changes?
How do you like villain? have you tried kagu? I'm undecided between the two..
i'm using ckdroid ... it's quite fast. very stable and fulfills all of my needs
if you don't really need / want a 2.x rom you should definitly go with modaco for the great tweaks and speed improvements!
also, the first ported roms from cyanogen are being released!
most of present quirks come from drivers not being available for 2.x roms from htc because they haven't realeased them in their own 2.x rom yet. just be a little more patient.
there are already rumors of an official 2.1 htc rom with sense coming out in the beginning of march
menatep said:
How do you like villain? have you tried kagu? I'm undecided between the two..
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As the Villain chef, you'd possibly expect me to promote my own rom. However, I find Kagu to be an outstanding rom. lox has done a great job with it. If I wanted a quick, Vanilla, feature-rich rom, I'd go with Kagu.
I love Sense UI though... hence Villain.
Kagudroid is good, CKDroid is awesome, but they are both Vanilla roms.
I like Villain ROM much better because of Sense UI, even though it's still a bit buggy and is a little slower. totally worth it for me.
You've obviously not been 'round the Dream parts of the forum...

ChocolateEclair 1.1r2 or VillainROM 12?

What's the general consensus between these ROMs?
ChocolateEclair seems to score higher in benchmarking tests, but VillainROM seems to have more of a following behind it.
Which is more stable, and are there any major problems to note with either?
Thanks!
PS... Still can't wait for my Hero to arrive. 3Store are being stupid and such, so it's taking a long time for it all to go through, but I'll get there eventually!
sajseven said:
What's the general consensus between these ROMs?
ChocolateEclair seems to score higher in benchmarking tests, but VillainROM seems to have more of a following behind it.
Which is more stable, and are there any major problems to note with either?
Thanks!
PS... Still can't wait for my Hero to arrive. 3Store are being stupid and such, so it's taking a long time for it all to go through, but I'll get there eventually!
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If I'm not mistaken, chocolateeclair is a vanilla ROM, which means it lacks many of the HTC sense user interface elements. But this also makes it faster, as HTC sense consumes some resources.
VillainROM is a full Sense ROM, so it has all the HTC apps and visuals etc, although it sometimes appears slower on benchmarks.
But either way, if you install SetCPU and overclock to a sensible level, (and even without overclocking), both will be sufficiently fast that you shouldn't feel any sluggishness or lag in either.
I am sure others can clarify the differences beyond my thinking it's vanilla vs. sense
I haven't tried ChocolateEclair yet. Though I have to say based upon recent benchmarks I'd love to try it out.
It is true that VillainROM does have a greater following and they also have a developed team working on bug fixes and assistance with any issues which may crop up.
Personally i'd try both if I were you. Spend a week or so on each one and decide then.
As for major problems, you'll have to read up on that. In all honesty there will probably be a few minor issues with each one, it just depends on whether those issues affect you or not. As i said there is no better way to find out than through personal experience.
Enjoy.
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If I'm not mistaken, chocolateeclair is a vanilla ROM
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Hehe, unfortunately you are mistaken VanillaEclair is the vanilla rom made by the same user. ChocolateEclair is his sense alternative, through it also comes with LauncherPro.
I have no idea how he has customized it to be so fast (particularly on boot time) but as I said i'm intrigued.
btdag said:
I haven't tried ChocolateEclair yet. Though I have to say based upon recent benchmarks I'd love to try it out.
It is true that VillainROM does have a greater following and they also have a developed team working on bug fixes and assistance with any issues which may crop up.
Personally i'd try both if I were you. Spend a week or so on each one and decide then.
As for major problems, you'll have to read up on that. In all honesty there will probably be a few minor issues with each one, it just depends on whether those issues affect you or not. As i said there is no better way to find out than through personal experience.
Enjoy.
Hehe, unfortunately you are mistaken VanillaEclair is the vanilla rom made by the same user. ChocolateEclair is his sense alternative, through it also comes with LauncherPro.
I have no idea how he has customized it to be so fast (particularly on boot time) but as I said i'm intrigued.
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LOL. That just proves there's now too many similar sounding ROMs
Is it odexed or deodexed? That could be a contributing factor to boot speed, certainly first boot. I know also that VillainROM will zipalign any unaligned apps, which speeds up the ROM in use, but it might slow down boot if you install any unaligned apps which would slow it down in the first place.
But yeah, I think i'm getting pretty badly confused now between roms. Usually roms with eclair in their name are vanilla, dunno why...
Right okay. So it's really just a case of pick and choose then.
I'm guessing that it's basically choosing between a little bit of speed and a little bit of stability, alongside the differences in feature-sets?
Also, being a complete and utter n00b, could you tell me what "odexed", "deodexed' and "zipalign" mean?
And another, somewhat unrelated question is: how does battery life cope, standard and with a custom ROM? Surely it can't be worse than the damned one-day-only battery in my iPhone.
I'm already impressed by Android, just because of how hackable it is. Can't wait to get started!
If I am not mistaking, villainrom has done some nice things to make the rom customisable, for instance control over the sense interface.
In terms of speed and stability on the other hand, VR "loses" from ChocolateEclair (v2.0 by now), which is just blazing fast and stable.
Now ultimately, if Villainrom and ChocolateEclair could date, merry and get children... You would most likely have the unchallenged ultimate Sense rom for the HTC Hero .
And ehhh, do you really want to know what those terms mean? It think this link here will help you a lot ...
BRijpstra said:
If I am not mistaking, villainrom has done some nice things to make the rom customisable, for instance control over the sense interface.
In terms of speed and stability on the other hand, VR "loses" from ChocolateEclair (v2.0 by now), which is just blazing fast and stable.
Now ultimately, if Villainrom and ChocolateEclair could date, merry and get children... You would most likely have the unchallenged ultimate Sense rom for the HTC Hero .
And ehhh, do you really want to know what those terms mean? It think this link here will help you a lot ...
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Flash this over VR12 and you will get your wish:
http://villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1928&p=20327
Slick response, I like it!
Well timed too, exactly at the moment I find a problem in my current installation . Still though, VillainRom... Still reminds me of batteryproblems and other small problems...
I'll give it a thought though.
Or shall we go for the experiment... FroyoVillain is just released
Hi all.. erasmux the file says that has been removed.. where can i find it??
thanks!!

Suggest a rom for me please

Hello, Fascinate fans. I am running the stock 2.2 verizon rom. I just rooted with SuperOneClick and am thinking about trying a custom rom. I use CM7 on my Nook Color and it works great, but I am not ready to try early builds of that for the Fascinate yet. I am looking for a rom that:
-has all hardware working
-is debinged
-is very stable
-has little to no bloatware (only verizon thing I need is 'My Verizon Mobile')
-is based on Froyo or newer
-is snappy, but not enough to kill the battery in half a day
-is easy to flash (I am not ready for flashing radios and such until I am comfortable flashing roms on this phone)
BONUS POINTS: Fixes or removes the GPS toggle in the notification area that rarely works. (This drove me crazy for a few weeks until I realized that the safe way to turn the GPS on is to use the normal settings screen!)
What do the experts recommend? I'm sure I will be flashing nightly within 6 months or so, but want to take it easy for now as I was addicted to flashing roms on my Touch Pro.
Thank you!
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Community rom 1.3. It pretty much meets all of your needs minus the gps thing. I don't think that can be modded yet.
I've been KANGBANGED!!!!!
Almost forgot. It's built from froyo source so the stock ed01 radio will do just fine. I also suggest activating voodoo on the kernal that it comes with. Hope this helps.
I've been KANGBANGED!!!!!
Keeping it mainstream you have two options. At least the most popular roms come down to two choices the community rom, or evil fascinate rom. Both great choices I'm sure that should meet your needs just fine. Personally I'm on com rom but have heard great things about evil. Seems to be some childishness forming a silly rivalry between the two, but I think there pretty similar to the average end user.
My personal preference is evil fascination. Can't really explain why other than I really dig the dark theming nitro integrated. There are other small differences, mostly aesthetic, so why not try them both? Both are great and supported regularly by great developers.
Sent from my Froyo'd Evil Fascinate full of PB&J
i tried the com rom, and at the time, there was a problem with it auto-rotating even if i didnt want it to. i don't know if it has been fixed but that was one of the main reasons i switched to evil fascinate. ever since i switched to evil fascinate, everything worked perfectly for me and i loved the overall theme of it so i stuck with it. and now i love it, and i have no real desire to switch back to com rom.
MattRussNC said:
Keeping it mainstream you have two options. At least the most popular roms come down to two choices the community rom, or evil fascinate rom. Both great choices I'm sure that should meet your needs just fine. Personally I'm on com rom but have heard great things about evil. Seems to be some childishness forming a silly rivalry between the two, but I think there pretty similar to the average end user.
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I haven't read any competitive banter from the devs themselves (except for Nitsuj expressing his preference for ComROM, but even then he didn't knock Evil Fascination). It's mostly the fanboys going back and forth. Actually, the two are very similar and I like them both
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'll try Community Rom first. I'm sure I can find some guides on how to flash once I have time to search. I have Clockwork Mod installed, so that's probably half the battle.
I still like the blackhole fascinate
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What OS do you use, which WOULD you use?(for devs)

Edit: with over 600 views, it is sad we only have 20 votes! Vote and let others see who is using what, and what the demand is!
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Development for the vibrant right now seems to be directed by the devs, but in the real world supply and demand is an important concept. Are devs focusing on the builds that are in most demand, or are users using what the devs are building because it is all that is being worked on?
I have a feeling that a comparable amount of people use some sort of custom Froyo and are not willing to go to gingerbread as there are who are continuously using gingerbread. If this is the case then perhaps the devs can use that feedback in some way. In any case it should give us an idea of the current condition of supply and demand.
The idea here is to give feedback to devs that show them that their work is being appreciated, or what they could do that may be the most appreciated. The poll is basic, posts are welcome if they contain useful feedback.
Sorry if this seems erroneous, but even if one developer(or fellow user) finds this to be remotely useful/interesting then it is worthwhile.
I myself am going to use froyo based roms until gingerbread roms are more overall stable and functional, however I almost feel forced to use gingerbread roms since they are primarily what is still being maintained or upgraded. I want the newest features, functions, and tweaks, and since froyo seems to have been nearly forgotten I am not sure what to do. Ultimately this makes me want a new phone that doesn't have this issue.
Froyo, same reasons as you said.
Gingerbread it's way nicer imo haha.
Froyo.
Ginger just doesn't feel complete yet.
Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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I'm in college, so over the summer when I didn't have much going on and a charger was always nearby, trying different ginger-roms was fine. Now that I am on campus for extended periods without a charger, I cannot use a rom that will kill more than half my battery in 6-8 hours. If everything worked right, maybe.. but considering an entire summer not being able to get something as simple as GPS working, I would not trade it MUCH improved battery life for less than normal functionality.
I was considering getting a hercules(intl version has many hardware improvements and superior battery with gingerbread), but since it will probably have similar problems(manufacturer wise, no source, mostly forgotten after launch) as the vibrant I would rather go with the prime. But if the prime doesn't go t-mobile than that isn't an option. Which leaves me with hoping that the gingerbread source comes out(for devs to work with), or the devs will make leaps with the ginger code, or that at least a few might work on froyo code..
With so many tweaks and custom apps(like hacked camera) that have come out since most froyo roms fell into neglect, I really want one or the other. If the prime comes out and I can get a tmo version, great.. otherwise I just feel screwed/forgotten.
I feel like the only updated froyo roms are being worked on by devs that don't really have it going on yet, and they only use froyo as a stepping stone.. I wish there were a thread in development section that explained to ALL devs what needs to go into every rom as a minimum(or what tweaks work with which roms, etc).
I won't switch off tmobile, I don't like them as a company, but no other is ACTUALLY better, but they all charge far more. Every situation seems lose/lose the more I think about it.
Bump because I think the results are interesting so far.
Im on gb because the speed boost was just so astronomical... particularly cm7... id appreciate dev on vibrantmtd more than others but i think that the best dev community is one where there is variety so:
Ideally, id perfer to see eclair, froyo, gb and honeycomb roms, as well as wp7 and ubuntu and ios lol. This is my dream.
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I'm also on froyo for the same basic reasons already said. I would love to see the different build prop tweaks, supercharger scripts, gps tweaks, and other customizations built into them as a standard. OnlyToxic8, Dmz nightly and zendroid are the only roms with those tweaks baked into them. I'd love more options.
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9 people either stock or froyo, 1 who is proud of him cm7. I read a ton of posts about how people have cm7 and are totally happy, so it looks like they need to do some voting
We need more people to participate to get a better overall look at the statistics.. several hundred people looked at the thread, but few votes? It only takes 2 clicks to vote..
Bump
Im loving MIUI revamped nick and t. Hill are great in both the rom they provide and support can't be beat.
Stock deodexed and rooted KB5.
I've given up on Vibrant.
I'm getting a new phone. Seriously thinking about iPhone 5. I know, I know.
But I just want a phone that works, and Vibrant has been my 3rd Android phone with problems, constant freezing, and other random issues. Vibrant was probably my worst tech purchase ever. Can't wait to get rid of this crap.
I want the Nexus Prime, but the problem is that it is manufactured by Samsung, and I swore to myself I wouldn't purchase another Samsung product. Then again it's guaranteed to get Google updates. Ahhhh I don't know.
I'm also ditching T-Mobile most likely. I have a feeling they have a hand in Samsung never releasing/leaking Gingerbread on Vibrant.
If we had Gingerbread leaked, the phone would be good probably for another 6 months-1yr.
I just flashed my first Gingerbread ROM (Asgard) and I have to say I prefer Gingerbread.
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Miui revamped by nick and Tory is amazing and they are extremely active in their forum IMO Miui runs much better on my phone than any custom froyo ROM
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miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
boystuff said:
miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
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What's "wip gps?"
I'm on a gingerbread rom on my vibrant now. They have definately become stable enough in my opinion. I am running Biff mod which even does not need to be reset to stock or loaded with GB bootloaders making it even easier now. I think the battery offput on GB roms is still there and feels lacking in my opinion but its worth the upgrade in my opinion. Currently on 2.3.5 and wouldn't go back to froyo now.
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work in progress
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so 70% stock/froyo and 30% using gb/happy with it.. but the numbers are too small to be a good sample of the population.
Bump because we need more votes for accuracy!

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