Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
Broman400 said:
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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There is a landscape fix Here
XERO_Racer said:
i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
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Exactly very good point !
You should try develooping and programming yourself before criticizing others' hardwork.
and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo
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theknub said:
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
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Exactly I agree.
licht77 said:
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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If you have a clock + weather on the home page and if you have a twitter tab in ur slider then its SENSE2.5=manila2.5=TF3D 2.5.
If you have just the clock on the main page then it is TF3D2.1=Manila2.1
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i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
Stupid post
HTC sense was developed for the more advanced next gen phones.
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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Azik. Google up Max Ultimate... allows up to 20 shortcuts. Personally, it's the only way I was able to use 2.5.
I think the original poster was just stating his opinion that he didn't like Sense 2.5. But you guys are acting like Apple Fanboys going ballistic and coming out so rude...
I don't like it sense 2.5 either...
As much as this forum is to praise people's work, we can't be doing ONLY that all the time. sometimes the work sucks and needs to be said that way.
I don't think its chef's fault or anything and I appreciate the time each chef puts in. But these days the forum is full of latest cutting edge software THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK WELL with tweaking, fixing bugs, do this and do that,etc...
I have gone back to older stable ROMs. I have the luxury of trying out these things because of the hard and good work of the chefs, the forum and the user community. Thank you all.
Have a nice day, everyone.
I love sense 2.5
It rocks! Maybe not for u but it is great for me
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and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo here
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
You guys who are complaining about 2.5 do realise that its not actually intended to work on the Touch Pro don't you? The version that we are luckily able to run has been ported over from different phones (leo iirc?) which has more power available to it, and a different resolution, amongst many other differences.
So we are not able to run an official HTC final-polished-ready-to-go version of it, and we NEVER will..we get a hacked together port put together by some very talented people on these boards.
So you can justifyably say that current implementations of it has bugs, is unstable, has missing/overlapping icons/graphics or speed issues..but these are not HTC Sense issues.
Personally I really like it but don't run it day to day because of a few issues with the new messenging client when you have more than a few text messages (takes forever to load!), BUT I like sense itself..the questions of if its stable or not, and if its a good bit of software are completely different, and its not fair on HTC or the guys on this board to mix them up..
Just my 2c..
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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Sense doesn't suck. It's your phone. It wasn't designed to run on it for a reason...
LEO DUSK Rocks
This my second day on the "Leo" Sense 2.5 Dusk and it "ROCKS" NRGZ28 roms are great. Waiting to see what he does next!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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azik said:
Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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I second this. Also to the first poster, you can try a hard reset or re flash a new rom. I have had some issues with 2.5 myself and lately the new 2.5 roms seem much faster and stable. The chefs put a lot of work into making a rom, so I can see why they get upset,but on the same note its nice to vent about things when something is not working. When I had problems with 2.5 I decided to stick with 2.1 until recently , and now I really like 2.5. I am going to flash a 2.1 probably later today and see which I like best, but I am willing to bet its the 2.5 roms. 2.5+MaxManila=Bliss
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
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Yes it speeds up the whole Manile working all together the the GFx Boost or NEO GFx.
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I know, I know....
but i am not a flash junkie and don't want my first experience with the TP to be flashing 10 roms. I'm just looking to get a decent one (preferably not a black theme ) and run with it to get to know touchflo and the device. Thanks!
There's a good Wiki associated with this device. Get to know the chefs then start reading their threads. Took me about an evening to find what I was looking for.
Just my opinion but, NATF's all the way! And the FuzeBerry of course....
Hi there
Ive coome over from the hermes camp too (although its still running)
i would personally reccomend the lantis os roms but again, and you'll see this all over xda, you will only find the best rom for you after flashing a few
and theres only really a handful to try!
good luck and make sure you've hardspl'd and have your stock rom and radio versions written down or backed up just in case you have to do a warranty return! saves u the hassle of trying to hunt it down in the panic!
duke_stix said:
Hi there
Ive coome over from the hermes camp too (although its still running)
i would personally reccomend the lantis os roms but again, and you'll see this all over xda, you will only find the best rom for you after flashing a few
and theres only really a handful to try!
good luck and make sure you've hardspl'd and have your stock rom and radio versions written down or backed up just in case you have to do a warranty return! saves u the hassle of trying to hunt it down in the panic!
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You should try them all, so you can see what the difference between a good and bad rom is. Each rom is built different for different so not all roms may suit your needs..... but i agree on Lantis OS being my favorite right now.
I personally tried Romeo, NATF and Proven and decided to stick with Proven.
I had problems with the screen shutting off during calls with Romeo.
I experienced TF3D lag with NATF.
Proven has been rock solid and I like the Diamond tweaks he's incorporated.
if you don't like TF3D go with Da_G.. I'm actually running a VGA version of HTC Home on mine.. love the speed.
Thread like these usually get closed pretty fast, I'm suprised that yours last a day
It's really all depend on what you like, they are all great. For the past few days, I've tried many of them. And to be honest, there is no BEST one. It's really depend on what you need and what you like.
Da_G is has the cleanest ROM NaTF's
Elite RC2 Is fully loaded with a new feeling
NATF Is stable, and GPS lock is pretty quick (update very often)
Proven, it's like Elite with less Applications and function (cleaner)
Romeo is very stable
.... Those are what i've tried
Check the Wikki in sticky post.
I think it is a good question that should come up from time to time.. sure everyone has their personal preferences but for a new person wanting a quick rundown on the most current ROMS to date.. just saving the guy some time downloading and flashing all those different ROMS. anyone here flashed all released ROMS to date?
I also went from the Hermes (8525) about a week and a half ago. Fuze was my christmas present .
I tried NATF's ROM for about a week and had many problems, which i seemed to ignore because of all its good feedback. I then tried Lantis OS and had no problems at all, I am still currently using it. No errors and speedy fast.
My suggestion is Lantis OS for the moment, but NATF is suppose to be releasing his v4.0 ROM sometime today or tomorrow so you should look out for that as well.
Good luck with your fuze and your flashing, and enjoy that beautiful VGA screen that i loved when i got it compared to the Hermes
I don't think that XDA-developers ever had any problems with folks discussing ROMs and their xp with the various flavors in a rational manner. We usually end up shutting down threads because the first reply is "Use search you id10t!" followed by general thread degeneration.
Anyhoo.. normally I'm one of the chefs, but with this device I've found that Da_G's direction mirrors the way I'd be going anyway. He's more interested in technical improvements to the GDI, GPS etc than in all the additional apps. I'm pretty confident that he's well on his way to creating a solid base ROM that's free for anyone to work from. Exactly what I would have done. Why re-invent the wheel?
This is what these kinds of threads are supposed to be like! As stated by a couple people previously, normally these get dismissed and/or flamed. When people ask these types of questions, usually they are not asking (at least the smart ones aren't) which ROM the SHOULD flash, but rather what is your experiances with the ones you have used.
I understand how confusing it may be trying to decide which one to use - they all look the same as far as applications that are cooked in. Only difference aesthetically are the different themes and that alone is not a deciding factor for me.
Just as everyone has stated - just try some out and see how they feel to you. ie button mapping, folder layout, apps installed, speed, etc. I personally like Aruppenthal's RRE ROM but that's just my 2 cents.
FYI: From what I've seen, EVERY ROM has its own bugs/quirks that may or may not annoy you.
Black6spdZ said:
if you don't like TF3D go with Da_G.. I'm actually running a VGA version of HTC Home on mine.. love the speed.
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Any chance you could post the version your using? I can't seem to find a VGA version and I am getting ready to get rid of TouchFlo 3D. Or post the thread you got it from.
Never Mind....I found it in the Diamond Forum...
I second the Lantis OS. I am using it as well. It is very fast and stable. I had problems with NATF's as well. But I will try NATF's v4.0 when it is released.
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Any chance you could post the version your using? I can't seem to find a VGA version and I am getting ready to get rid of TouchFlo 3D. Or post the thread you got it from.
Never Mind....I found it in the Diamond Forum...
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Not to get off the subject of this thread but which HTC Home VGA are you using? I am using one called PJ HTC Home VGA which is pretty good but wanted to try something different if it is better...
At0mAng said:
Not to get off the subject of this thread but which HTC Home VGA are you using? I am using one called PJ HTC Home VGA which is pretty good but wanted to try something different if it is better...
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The one I'm using is a cab called htchome2.cab that I found in the diamond forum...works fine but the media player tab does not work.
And I have been using either Lantis or DaG Rom's....I use Blackberry Connect which adds lag to the fuze anyway but it seems to affect these Roms the least. I would be interested in hearing what Rom's Blackberry Connect users are fond of as it seems to make a big difference.
i too just got my Fuze from Kaiser. right now im using RomEOS and really like it. i might try the Da_G because i really dont care about TF3D.
I know these things were better on my Wing and on my Mogul, but I can't imagine things getting any better on the Touch Pro. I mean it seems really hard to top...
hidavi said:
I know these things were better on my Wing and on my Mogul, but I can't imagine things getting any better on the Touch Pro. I mean it seems really hard to top...
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You are in for a big surprise....
Amen to that.. .LOL
I have tried (almost) all of the cooked ROM's in this Rapahel forum. Some put more emphasis on being faster and lighter than the stock and others just a better all-around package, enhancements and fixes. Each one and his own tastes with what they are looking for. There are also those who are just fine with the stock.
Trying out new ROM's is a trial and error experience and it takes time until you hit the one you like, but it is also fun and addictive... , I'm totally an addict.
If you are not quite pleased with performance or something about your phone and tweaks are not something that can fix it- you have come to the right place.
why do i feel like this thread is beating a dead horse?
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Any of these cooked ROMs really any better than the stock one?
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No of course not, this is a forum filled with HTC Stock ROM fanatics...
To be honest I always wondered, what makes them so special.
I mean what (except additional programs or OS build updates) they do "better" that I cannot do by just registry tweaking etc.
It would be VERY helpful if there was a list with comparing bias, extras etc.
rzanology said:
why do i feel like this thread is beating a dead horse?
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I'm feeling the same way. Surprised the thread has not been locked already.
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
hidavi said:
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
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perhaps its early and i am still sleepy. but it seems to me, you've just answered your own question. maybe i'm wrong.
but i will allow this thread to live...maybe someone will post a link to some wild benchmark screen shot or something.
I will have to say yes, the cooked roms are better than the stock one.
Mine is majorly faster than it was out of the box, the GPS works better, and programs are using less memory. Most things you might be able to achieve on your own, however most include updates to the drivers for the wireless, video card, os, etc that you would not be able to do yourself (or at least not easily)
Any of these cooked ROMs really any better than the stock one?
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Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
CFC compressed TF3D and such, plenty of cooked-in optimizations contributed from all over the community that the stock ROM has no idea about, you can't replicate a good chef's ROM with reghacks alone.
hidavi said:
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
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I also have a wing and a touch pro. I found the AT&T stock rom to be ok vs my wing custom rom. I then loaded a lot of the roms on the forum and seen how much better it could be. No overloaded os, way more memory, more gps tools, unlocked HSDPA/HSUPA, super fast speeds vs stock rom, working 3d drivers (on some but not all custom roms) and alot more changes. Try out RRE rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467592. Its the best rom I have every used on any wm device.
Well if you guys say so I'll go ahead and do it. I can't believe it gets better than this!
rcll said:
Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
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Oddly enough, I ran the stock Fuze ROM for a while, and I'd agree completely that out of the box it is slllloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I flashed a few ROM's ,eventually settled on RRE until the later versions started exhibiting serious battery drain issues. I flashed back to stock to wait for a fix for that and right now the STOCK AT&T FUZE ROM is as fast and stable as RRE, with all the great battery of the original.
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Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
CFC compressed TF3D and such, plenty of cooked-in optimizations contributed from all over the community that the stock ROM has no idea about, you can't replicate a good chef's ROM with reghacks alone.
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funny you should say that, but a co-worker of mine did do that, he returned it shortly after getting it. I was able to convince him to get it again, and allow me to "re-flash" (that was after he played with mine and was impressed)
So how do I go about flashing a CDMA Touch Pro? I hear that the HardSPL program out there doesn't work with CDMA phones.
rzanology said:
perhaps its early and i am still sleepy. but it seems to me, you've just answered your own question. maybe i'm wrong.
but i will allow this thread to live...maybe someone will post a link to some wild benchmark screen shot or something.
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ROTFLMYAO, It is hard to get up in BK especially in E-NY. After looking at this thread, I think I am going back to sleep What time is it again? May be when I get up, this thread will be closed.
East New YOrk here too mang
ANyway, I figured out how to flash CMDA phones over at PPCGeeks. I will report back for possible ownage.
bad grammar, stupid question. Of course they are better, they have different drivers, newer applications, and have stuff added that can only be cooked in. Some of the stuff you can add through cabs and by messing with the registry but everything is faster cooked in
Hi, wasn't sure whether to post this here or in development, so feel free to move it if necessary
I'm currently running Villainrom 12 and love it, but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
I've noticed villain have now got a 2.2 ROM out, but my only worry is that it does not include Sense UI. Can someone please point out the main differences between having the Sense UI and not?
and possibly conclude with there opinion on whether i should stick with Sense, or bin it for the new improved 2.2 Rom...?
cheers for any advice.
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but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
cheers for any advice.
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I believe you've answered your own question
but while I'm always looking for something new, I also want it to be Improved .
Ive flashed many ROM's before (Mainly Villain) and all Include Sense, but just want some advice on whether I should switch.
just some opinions and maybe a comparison of features/usability would help.
Could even start a small debate about the 2 different types of ROM's .
I've tried different Roms since Sept 2009, but I've always found stock ones are the most stable. I'm currently using stock 2.1 found un villain forums with a2sd and root. Very fast and with sense. Vanilla Roms tend to drain the battery very quickly. I'm a very heavy phone user and at work coverage is poor. Try them out, you might disagree with me. Oh, and let's not compare specific Roms, they're too different to one another.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
I also get bored with certain ROMs quite quickly and am changing constantly. I started off with Sense and then moved to Vanilla, have been back to Sense and then back again. I'm currently running Vanilla as like the look and feel of it. However I am thinking of going back to Sense, once I can find a good theme as I personally dislike the stock Rosie theme. That's the one thing that puts me off. That said the integration with Facebook and the widgets are a big plus. I know there are other apps and Launchers out there that can do similar things but not quite sure the integration is as good.
Another thing is that Sense UI was designed for the Hero and that means that with a good sense ROM all the hardware works as it should, meaning the LEDs (for notifications). I find these don't work with Vanilla ROMs as yet, although they're getting there.
If you want a change from Villain check out SenseHero. It looks great and is very fast and stable. The guy who created it is currently working on a newer version also.
God, that was long
Hi there
I've noticed in a few of the other forums (while looking for a desire owning friend) that there are a few desire froyo sense roms popping up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724123
I was just wandering if this meant that at some point we would see similar developments on the ol' hero?
Cheers
boch501
yeahhh it would be nice to have
Porting from desire would be horrible, due to very different hardware, different screen size and different screen ratio.
Very doubtful that a desire port will ever happen. There's really no point as the legend (which is far easier to port from) will get an update to 2.2, and thats a much better bet.
Patience! the devs at the moment are just trying to get a perfect AOSP 2.2 rom first!
yeah it's look like a very good rom, if it's possible to port it on a htc hero, i take it
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
bonesy said:
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
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or the legend
bonesy said:
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
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Sorry man! Should have known better!
And awesome, I will await the day! I am sadly one of those that has got too used to sense!
boch501 said:
Sorry man! Should have known better!
And awesome, I will await the day! I am sadly one of those that has got too used to sense!
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I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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Yeah excatly! I thaught I HAD to have sense before a actually gave an AOSP ROM a chance and now I don't see why I would have sense
Lennyuk said:
I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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Sadly not for me (yet!). Things stopping me from going Vanilla:
Flickr Sync... soon to change http://www.flicka.mobi/
Music Widget... http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.piratemedia.musicmod Froyo Only
Bookmarks Widget... no solution (Live Bookmarks maybe?)
Music PLayer LockScreen ... no solution
Lennyuk said:
I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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I did give up Sense for a bit but I missed the widgets the bottom bar sucks compared to LauncherPro, its the widgets that bring me bac.
im using vanilla or froyo depending on mood and what day!
I have used froyo w/sense on my mates desire and i cant wait for it to be on the hero (probably have a better phone by then but nevermind) all the things that put me of sense 2.1 arent there in sense 2.2.... No lag going from screen to screen! stupidly fast (he gets 38-42 on linpack) and hd recording (only on snapdragon i know) if you know someone with a desire cionvince them to root it and put 2.2 on im sure you vanilla fans will love it!!
Hello. I'm very picky with my ROMS. I'm currently on KaosFroyo v23. I really like it but I really want my camera back as apps from the market tend to lag really really bad for me and I use my camera a lot. Here are my requirements:
1) Camera
2) No lag in dialer (AFAIK Sense ROMS do)
Not that much to ask for. I really want to go back down to 2.1 and I really want a Sense based ROM. Every sense based ROM I have tried so far has had major lag when dialing out and I can't have this.
Can someone suggest any ROMS that are 2.1 based, whether it be Sense based or not WITHOUT dialer lag. I would really like a ROM that have the softkey backlights working correctly as well.
If you find this thread useless or boring or stupid; I'm sorry. I'm very new to this.
This should be in general, not the dev section.
And why switch from Kaosfroyo? There have been teasers of the camera working that were posted yesterday
XtrROM . its super fast and stable and there is a sense version
non sense - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694472 (be sure to get version 3.0.3) NOT 3.1
sense - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467 (3.1 on this version is fine)
jhart15063 said:
XtrROM . its super fast and stable and there is a sense version
non sense - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694472 (be sure to get version 3.0.3) NOT 3.1
sense - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467 (3.1 on this version is fine)
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What's wrong with 3.1? I'm using and it's great.
i dont mean to say anything is wrong with it but its a beta and i havent tried it to give my opinion on how stable it is i just dont want to give someone a recommendation and have the beta be unstable or anything, but now that i hear it works..does it have flash like the 3.1 sense rom?
Sounds like you want froyo with camera.
Apparently KF will be getting full camera support and you can always just use camera magic. I have "camera" hidden from my app drawer with Launcherpro and it's just got camera magic there.
jhart15063 said:
sense - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467 (3.1 on this version is fine)
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I enthusiastically also recommend xtrSense (current version is 3.1). It is THE BEST AND FASTEST Sense ROM you can get. The dialer lag is nearly gone. Be sure to overclock and turn on JIT. It's super fast and super stable. I get a score of 280 on quadrant when overclocked to 710Mhz. That is well above and beyond any other 2.1 Sense based ROM out there. It will easily go above a quadrant score of 300 if overclocked at or above 748Mhz.
It looks 100% identical to the official Verizon Sense ROM, but it's crazy fast.
Also even though this gets lower quadrant scores than the Froyo ROMs (they get around 400 usually), xtrSense actually feels faster. Froyo ROMs still have their issues so maybe they'll get that way eventually, but for now xtrSense is silky smooth (for an Eris running Sense anyway )
loki154 said:
This should be in general, not the dev section.
And why switch from Kaosfroyo? There have been teasers of the camera working that were posted yesterday
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Sorry. I do see Kaos teaser. If he releases this soon, I will stay with KaosFroyo
Hungry Man said:
Sounds like you want froyo with camera.
Apparently KF will be getting full camera support and you can always just use camera magic. I have "camera" hidden from my app drawer with Launcherpro and it's just got camera magic there.
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I don't want to use a app from the market. They tend to me VERY laggy on my phone.
TAINTED TENZO
i beta'd this for a few weeks .....and am currently running it still ,,,,, quick, stable
my wife is very picky and wants everything to just work, I can say on this rom it does....i have since also added this to her phone
also ..i get no FC's and mms works out of the box
JMO
all you can do is try em out
rvpartsguy said:
TAINTED TENZO
i beta'd this for a few weeks .....and am currently running it still ,,,,, quick, stable
my wife is very picky and wants everything to just work, I can say on this rom it does....i have since also added this to her phone
also ..i get no FC's and mms works out of the box
JMO
all you can do is try em out
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The OP said he really wanted a Sense based ROM. This is barely Sense. It has some Sense components left, but the good stuff has been ripped out (widgets, rosie, etc.).
Next time post it in the right place. You should check out fresh 3.5
This thread kind of comes off the wrong way
I don't usually reply like this but it seems silly to call your self picky when asking for help. I feel like users try to threaten devs by saying things like " If the camera works i'll stay on KF."
It doesnt seem to me that devs create these great roms because they are desperately seeking the acceptance of the masses. They make them because its a sweet hobby and if people really latch on thats a bonus.
I read for a long while before I had the stones to even post a question on this site. It would seem as though all the devs on XDA have gotten where they have the old fashioned way by research and trial and error.
If your going to bypass the research at least post in the right place and try not to come off like a spolied brat.
That being said - XTR sense or no sense is awesome and super stable.
I have found 0 issues with it - the only minor setback and its not just specific to XTR is that Pandora acts crazy with jit enabled but as far as I know thats across all jit enabled roms.
Best of luck in your android journey friend.
Erris Bueller said:
I don't usually reply like this but it seems silly to call your self picky when asking for help. I feel like users try to threaten devs by saying things like " If the camera works i'll stay on KF."
It doesnt seem to me that devs create these great roms because they are desperately seeking the acceptance of the masses. They make them because its a sweet hobby and if people really latch on thats a bonus.
I read for a long while before I had the stones to even post a question on this site. It would seem as though all the devs on XDA have gotten where they have the old fashioned way by research and trial and error.
If your going to bypass the research at least post in the right place and try not to come off like a spolied brat.
That being said - XTR sense or no sense is awesome and super stable.
I have found 0 issues with it - the only minor setback and its not just specific to XTR is that Pandora acts crazy with jit enabled but as far as I know thats across all jit enabled roms.
Best of luck in your android journey friend.
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wow nicely put. and on a side note i like the name, very creative hahah
Erris Bueller said:
I don't usually reply like this but it seems silly to call your self picky when asking for help. I feel like users try to threaten devs by saying things like " If the camera works i'll stay on KF."
It doesnt seem to me that devs create these great roms because they are desperately seeking the acceptance of the masses. They make them because its a sweet hobby and if people really latch on thats a bonus.
I read for a long while before I had the stones to even post a question on this site. It would seem as though all the devs on XDA have gotten where they have the old fashioned way by research and trial and error.
If your going to bypass the research at least post in the right place and try not to come off like a spolied brat.
That being said - XTR sense or no sense is awesome and super stable.
I have found 0 issues with it - the only minor setback and its not just specific to XTR is that Pandora acts crazy with jit enabled but as far as I know thats across all jit enabled roms.
Best of luck in your android journey friend.
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As far as I can tell he's not making any demands of any developer. He's telling us his concerns with the current ROM he's using and why he'd rather just switch to another one. He's not demanding that the developer fix the issues he's having.
Dc_striker said:
Next time post it in the right place. You should check out fresh 3.5
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Thanks, I already knew I made a mistake. No need to be the second person to tell me un my thread. Have a wonderful day.
( Sent from my HTC Droid Eris | KaosFroyo v23 )
Erris Bueller said:
I don't usually reply like this but it seems silly to call your self picky when asking for help. I feel like users try to threaten devs by saying things like " If the camera works i'll stay on KF."
It doesnt seem to me that devs create these great roms because they are desperately seeking the acceptance of the masses. They make them because its a sweet hobby and if people really latch on thats a bonus.
I read for a long while before I had the stones to even post a question on this site. It would seem as though all the devs on XDA have gotten where they have the old fashioned way by research and trial and error.
If your going to bypass the research at least post in the right place and try not to come off like a spolied brat.
That being said - XTR sense or no sense is awesome and super stable.
I have found 0 issues with it - the only minor setback and its not just specific to XTR is that Pandora acts crazy with jit enabled but as far as I know thats across all jit enabled roms.
Best of luck in your android journey friend.
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Again, sorry I posted in wrong forum Mr. Perfect but I'm simply trying to find a good Rom, not trying to make any devs make me something special. Did you really have to vent off to me? Jeez. And me saying I'm picky was just me being humorous. No need to get butt hurt buddy.
I really think installing 6 different Roms counts as research. Thanks. =)
( Sent from my HTC Droid Eris | KaosFroyo v23 )
Well now you've gone and hurt my feelings. Sorry that my post was too real for you.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
nobody likes evil eris 2.0 2.01. its pretty fly. idk bout 3.0 or 4.0 kinda buggy. i like sense based roms.
HTC Legion said:
Again, sorry I posted in wrong forum Mr. Perfect but I'm simply trying to find a good Rom, not trying to make any devs make me something special. Did you really have to vent off to me? Jeez. And me saying I'm picky was just me being humorous. No need to get butt hurt buddy.
I really think installing 6 different Roms counts as research. Thanks. =)
( Sent from my HTC Droid Eris | KaosFroyo v23 )
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Most butts are hurt in this forum.
joebob213 said:
Most butts are hurt in this forum.
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>.< lol
( Sent from my HTC Droid Eris | KaosFroyo v23 )