How do you report fraud on the market and get refund? - HTC EVO 3D

Is there a way to complain to Google at a high level and get a refund for a market purchase? My daughter tried to buy $2.60 worth of "points" for "Pretty Pet Salon" 3 days ago. She brought me the money and I clicked the link, it took me to the market, where I paid and it said it would be downloaded. We've gotten nothing and I emailed the company who told me to go into the app and send a form mail from there with the Google order number and their reference number, both of which were quoted in the same mail. Idiots. This seems like nothing but lazy programming where they don't know how to properly hook up in-app purchases.
I'd like to report this as fraud (non-delivery of goods) and have it charged back. I'll do it via the credit card if I have to but I was hoping the Android Market had a mechanism to file a complaint and dispute the charge.
Anyone know?
Thanks,
Mike

mikeyxda said:
Is there a way to complain to Google at a high level and get a refund for a market purchase? My daughter tried to buy $2.60 worth of "points" for "Pretty Pet Salon" 3 days ago. She brought me the money and I clicked the link, it took me to the market, where I paid and it said it would be downloaded. We've gotten nothing and I emailed the company who told me to go into the app and send a form mail from there with the Google order number and their reference number, both of which were quoted in the same mail. Idiots. This seems like nothing but lazy programming where they don't know how to properly hook up in-app purchases.
I'd like to report this as fraud (non-delivery of goods) and have it charged back. I'll do it via the credit card if I have to but I was hoping the Android Market had a mechanism to file a complaint and dispute the charge.
Anyone know?
Thanks,
Mike
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from the point of view as an android app developer, our google checkout inbox shows all purchases with a long unique random order id number and then the individual's name. it is very easy to cancel an order. it takes one button press on the cancel order button, select from the drop down customer requested and press cancel order. less than 10 seconds, max.
i would prob ask the developer again to cancel your order as its very simple and quick. perhaps you can provide them my directions above if they need help, hah.
in regards to filing a compliant against the developer, i haven't seen any buttons or links in the market for this. i know a 1 star rating always ruins my day, but im a small developer. for a larger developer a 1 star rating might not mean much.
if they are a larger developer, perhaps the link they provide to their web site will allow you to get in contact with somebody who might be more helpful than whoever replied to your last email thru the market.
i did a quick google search and didnt see any avenues for filing a complaint against the developer. perhaps going back thru your credit card company, as each charge is coded for a specific developer, might show google there is an issue with a specific developer.
hope that helps!

Found a Report App link
Hi There,
I was looking for the same, so i landed up here but no one had provided a working link to Report a Fraud App, but i searchd further on Google and came across the following:
oops can't post URL
well here is a workaround
you know bit dot ly right? the link is
bit dot ly slash f3QgsS
Google has contact options for most of their prodcuts on the google.com/support pages i guess, this is indeed a neater format to report to Google
Best Regards,
Karan

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fluffcat1 is a CROOK.. dont buy from him

fluffcat1,
I told you I would run into you again...
Anyone looking to buy parts for your phone DONT deal with Richard...
([email protected])
We conducted a paypal transaction on May 2... and after 1.5 months and some nasty emails I am out of 25GBP... and still have NOT received my camera and back case as promised in the transaction....
I submitted a complaint on Paypal... He emailed me saying that he was upset with me and that if I closed the case he would ship the items... so I did and he did NOt ship anything...
Very clever on his part... since now I can not go back to Paypal and open the claim again...
Note to anyone buying using paypal... If you have a complaint open... DO NOT close it until you are completely satisfied... with the outcome...
Once you close a case you can not open it...
Any Way... just wanted to warn everyone... looking to buy parts for their phones... Richard([email protected]) is a CROOK.
Concep86
And dangerous too :?: :twisted: :evil:
I've replied to all your messages so far and the package was sent insured so as per my last email I can send the proof of postage on to you as according to the royalmail it was succesfully handed to USPS. You are the one who takes weeks and in one case over a month to reply to emails....
The only nasty email I received was your filing the paypal complaint within 7 days of payment as I didn't reply to your email within the 2 days you requested. As it put the funds on hold of course I'd want them releasing before postage! And I don't post international items every day, I wait until I have a few to send as it's a special trip to the P.O to send them rather than going in my normal post collection, as well as filling out customs paperwork and insurance.
My ebay feedback of 1700+ should speak for itself. I'm really going to try and rip someone off over £25 with a turnover of £6k p/m.....
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fluffcat1&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS
THINGS DO GO MISSING. In the UK I loose approx 3% of items sent but always manage to claim back from the royalmail as they are INSURED like all my items are. Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 weeks, sometimes longer, but the do pay up. Minus postage costs though :-(
I post approx 50 items per week! I loose about 2! That sort of thing happens, and I'm actually better statistically for postage losses than the UK as a whole.
Now, if you want to do this in public, fine, I'll post the ref here and you can contact USPS on your own, or you can apologize and I'll look into claiming from this end and send you another set.
Lots of people here have bought from me and received their goods fine. Be careful how you slander me in a public forum where posting IP addresses are logged for all users...
Richard
ok... then this is a big misunderstanding....
I still have NOT recevied my items... nor an email from you as to what is happening...
I do not know you other than through our correspondence which has been very one sided...
So what am i to think...
history...on emails...
3/24 inquired into camera and back case...
4/28 apologized for not following up on purchase... as I stated I was called away... shortly after the initial inquiry.
4/28 made payment in error... 25 Us vs 25 GBP... waited for initial payment to be credited back to my account... which you denied payment on... thnak you
5/7 made correct payment via paypal... asked for email confirmation of date shipped with payment.
5/13 had not received a response on my email... so I emailed asking for an update.
5/16 received nasty email in ref to me taking weeks to respond... and expecting you to respond immediatley. asking to cancel complaint
5/17 responding to your email... I cancelled the paypal complaint... and asked politely for an update....
5/31 still had not received an update... so I emaile dasking for an update
6/2 still nothing.. so again i asked politellty for an update...
6/15 posted on this forum
I have not received anything.... Please provide me an update... at
concep86 @ yahoo .com
:lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:
Interesting
You forgot the email complaint you made to paypal just 6 days after sending the correct payment, my response via paypal to that offering a refund, and the several emails I subsequently sent that you replied to - I have emailed many times to [email protected] and have the server logs from exchange 2003 to prove it.
From you own logs you have given it just over 3 weeks to arrive to the US. Surface post ain't that quick you know and you were too cheap to pay for a courier service so what do you expect?
Check your spam filter etc.
Edit - you forgot to mention the reason for my 'long response' ( 9 days!) after payment was you had paid to my *old* email address from when you had first contacted me rather than my current address that I was replying from at the time and the one you so kindly plastered all over this group for the spam bots to find. Thanks. 2 can play at that game. Looks like you're gonna be on your own claiming from USPS.
Richard
We could go back and forth... on this...
I did not forget to include the complaint as i was detailing just the emails that went back and forth between us.
I did mention the complaint in the emails...
However, I did apologize to you for submitting a complaint on the 15th and did not reveive a response...
I am the one putting up the cash for my litlle item... and 25GBP although a small amount is still hard earned.
and i have beenn burned on ebay before.... so sorry if i require a little hand holding...
Where do we go from here... sounds like we just had some bad communication issues to resolve.. we are both honest hard working gents...
lets get past this please... I am willing to make a public apology on this forum... once I receive my items...
as i have stated previously in my emails... i am truly sorry for the misunderstanding....
Thanks...
PS removed emails from previous posts...
concep86
concep86 said:
fluffcat1,
I told you I would run into you again...
Anyone looking to buy parts for your phone DONT deal with Richard...
(email removed)
We conducted a paypal transaction on May 2... and after 1.5 months and some nasty emails I am out of 25GBP... and still have NOT received my camera and back case as promised in the transaction....
I submitted a complaint on Paypal... He emailed me saying that he was upset with me and that if I closed the case he would ship the items... so I did and he did NOt ship anything...
Very clever on his part... since now I can not go back to Paypal and open the claim again...
Note to anyone buying using paypal... If you have a complaint open... DO NOT close it until you are completely satisfied... with the outcome...
Once you close a case you can not open it...
Any Way... just wanted to warn everyone... looking to buy parts for their phones... Richard(email removed) is a CROOK.
Concep86
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I have ordered items from fluffcat1 without problems. He kept in touch with me and gave me pointers on installing a camera on my SX 66.
Would definately buy from again.
I've ordered from Fluffcat as well. Always very good service, fast and extremely helpful. Just look at his EBay feedback! Surely this could have been sorted out in private.
I'll also go with supporting Fluffycat
Fast and good service for a replacement keypad circuit board for my typhoon and even gave me some money back for the damaged part, sent by paypal only days after I sent it back to him
I'll also go with supporting Fluffycat
Fast and good service for a replacement keypad circuit board for my typhoon and even gave me some money back for the damaged part, sent by paypal only days after I sent it back to him
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
I have not been proven a liar...
fluffcat1 can say what he likes... but I have not received my items nor have I ever received an email telling me that the item was shipped...
what do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do... do you think I was simply stalking... **** I just wanted to know if he had shipped the items...
So for the moment, all my bases are covered....
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concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
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nswafford said:
concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
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I agree.
It may be an idea to edit your first post to have a less litigious subject. Something along the lines of "Delivery from fluffcat delayed, has anyone else had similar problems?".
And why have you put his email back into your posts. That really does seem childish to me.
concep86 said:
I have not been proven a liar...
fluffcat1 can say what he likes... but I have not received my items nor have I ever received an email telling me that the item was shipped...
what do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do... do you think I was simply stalking... **** I just wanted to know if he had shipped the items...
So for the moment, all my bases are covered....
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No, they are not. Lets see what you didn't do....
1: You didn't try using an alternative email address to email me incase either you or I was experienceing server issues. The free providors ( esp. yahoo and hotmail) randomly take to blocking domains if they are recently registered and / or not in their latest DNS list. The domain of the email you so kindly re-plastered over this thread was recently registered. This is one of the reasons I have moved away from a 'free' providor.
2: You didn't try contacting me via my previous email address where we were able to communicate albeit with long gaps for your replies.
3: You didn't try pm'ing me via this site.
4: You didn't try re-contacting me via ebay as first contact had been originally made.
Now, I don't know there is an issue unless I get told - I don't sit at a computer typing in tracking numbers all day checking if stuff has been delivered. All items are sent insured as I previously stated.
You don't want this sorting out it seems - you are just out to stir....with a different attitude on your part I would have been glad to handle the claim and send out a replacement camera module ( I have no free rear covers left :-( as I do when domestic items get lost / mislaid as the wait can be annoying for the claim to be processed.
I have not yet had to claim via the international process but domestic claims take upto 4 weeks ( and they pay the claim as stamps :roll: ) - so I think you need to contact USPS and find out their procedure as I am unwilling to help any further after your comments in this thread and petty re-insertion of my email into it for the spammers to harvest. (As I have admin status over my new domain I'll just set up another mailbox if it gets too much - thanks.)
Your ref is RI763769010GB. Good luck!
Richard
p.s thanks everyone else for the cheer squad! It's usually only the bad experiences people shout about. I appreciate it.
both of you are Guilty of the same thing
Cant we all get along ? Both of you made mistakes and have shown in this forum you are less than civized men. You are but children acting as they do. Both of you should forget the past and try to come to a compromise. As humans we all make mistakes and act on emotions and dont realize that airing your dirty laundry in public without looking at the big picture you show a side of yourselves that you should be embarrassed of. Now that you both should feel ashamed of yourselves(if you dont you should), lets come together and fix the problem. Be the men your parents raised you to be!!!
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airing your dirty laundry in public without looking at the big picture you show a side of yourselves that you should be embarrassed of. Now that you both should feel ashamed of yourselves(if you dont you should)
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Well thanks for lumping me in here but I didn't start it posting here in this thread...just defending myself against points incorrectly made that I was a crook which I am not. Someone calls you a crook in a public forum would you turn the other cheek and be the 'bigger man'? I think not. You would defend yourself, as I have done.
Richard
Hi fluffcat1
I am also an eBay seller and read this thread with interest. I can sympathize with your situation especially when getting a Paypal chargeback in such a short time. However, there are some flaws in your argument.
You are a UK registered seller. As such you are responsible for the delivery of the item. It isn't good enough to say "you pissed me off, sort it out yourself" or "it is with USPS, ask them" (not exactly what you said, I know). The purchasers contract with you was for delivery of the item to him, not to USPS. In the UK you would wind up in small claims and rightly so. You are coming across as being quite unprofessional and taking advantage of the fact the purchaser is US based. You also quote some interesting statistics. I do not believe your claim that loosing 2 in 50 is better than the UK national average. The actual statistics are 0.07% - see the following news item http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3681547.stm for my references.
As I already stated I am an EBay seller too. However, a loss rate of 2 in 50 would be real trouble for us. We ship on average 120 items a day and that would mean we would lose about 5 a day. We don’t lose that many a month!
As for "with a different attitude on your part I would have been glad to handle the claim and send out a replacement camera module", that shouldn't be your choice, and in the UK it wouldn't be. You are responsible for that item and you have a duty to your customer to resolve it satisfactorily.
"Surface post ain't that quick you know and you were too cheap to pay for a courier service", eh, what about Airmail. You quote international signed for on your auctions but you don't mention that only covers surface mail. The difference between the two is small, for example a 1kg Airmail to the US is £10.00 while surface is £8.30. Did you explain it would take up to 6 weeks for delivery?
“I have not yet had to claim via the international process but domestic claims take upto 4 weeks ( and they pay the claim as stamps )”. I must imagine the cheques them send me when I claim for loss! They have never sent me stamps.
I am curious how you know the item is with USPS as tracking number RI763769010GB is giving no details at all. I was under the impression an International Signed for number would give the date it was collected from you and where it is with regard to processing. See these numbers for an example – RI537451069GB and RI537451072GB.
David.

FreeCreditReport App

I saw a new App from Experian where you can access your credit report from your phone. Has anyone tried this? I already have an account with freecreditreport.com so I downloaded it, but I am too paranoid to enter my personal information.
check the webpage and support info on the app, if everything links back to the official experian websites should be ok...
not too many hackers with the balls to imitate big credit bearu names, lol
thats federal time there.
also browse google and see if there are any mentions from experian theirself about a release of a mobile app.
I would probably stay away from that app.... I don't know if that app is legit. I checked google and didn't find anything about it. I also went to the source experian.com and didn't find any info. Now I'm not saying it's bogus, but just suggesting that you stay away from it until confirmed that it's the real deal.
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Looks a lot like their new iPhone app. I wouldn't worry about it.
I have been advised to not use freecreditreport.com, I have been told to instead use annualcreditreport.com
This below is from militaryonesource
Thanks to the Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act (FACTA), every U.S. citizen is entitled to a free credit report once a year from each of the three main credit reporting bureaus: Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion. There are three ways to order your credit reports: online, by phone, and through the mail.
To order your credit report online, go to www.annualcreditreport.com. This centralized Web site sponsored by the three main credit bureaus allows you to order all three reports and view them instantly online.
To order your report over the phone, call 1-877-322-8228. Your credit report will be mailed to you within 15 days.
To order a report by mail, you will need to fill out an annual credit report request form. Go to https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/requestformfinal.pdf to find a copy of this form online. Then mail the form to:
Annual Credit Report Request Service
P.O. Box 105281
Atlanta, GA 30348-5281
Due to security reasons, www.annualcreditreport.com does not work from overseas. If you're stationed or deployed outside the U.S., you can print the form to order your report by mail at www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/include/requestformfinal.pdf.
When you get your reports, look them over carefully. If there's anything you don't understand, call the credit bureau for an explanation. The reports include a lot of information and you may need some help interpreting them the first time you see them. Federal law requires that the bureaus make this help available to you. Here is the contact information for each of the three main credit bureaus:
Equifax Credit Information Services
P.O. Box 740256
Atlanta, Georgia 30374
Telephone: 1-800-685-1111
Fax: 1-404-612-2993
www.equifax.com
Experian
P.O. Box 9554
Allen, Texas 75013
Telephone: 1-888-397-3742
www.experian.com
Trans Union Corporation
Consumer Relations Center
P.O. Box 1000
Chester, PA 19022
Telephone: 1-800-916-8800
www.transunion.com
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Also it is probably best if you order only 1 report every 4 months so this way you can check your credit 3 times per year instead doing all 3 and having to wait another year for free reports. This is even recommended in the Frequently Asked Questions section.
Actually, you want to monitor your report. It is a good way to keep an eye on things. I use freecreditreport.com which is actually Experian.com and love it. I started using it at regular price which was around 15 a month, then I called and said I wanted to cancel, I couldn't afford it. They dropped in 50% now I pay 7 bucks. I pull a free one once or twice a month. It's quite essential to monitor your report. Don't listen to people who don't know how important it is.
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Actually, you want to monitor your report. It is a good way to keep an eye on things. I use freecreditreport.com which is actually Experian.com and love it. I started using it at regular price which was around 15 a month, then I called and said I wanted to cancel, I couldn't afford it. They dropped in 50% now I pay 7 bucks. I pull a free one once or twice a month. It's quite essential to monitor your report. Don't listen to people who don't know how important it is.
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"free"creditreport.com is fine to use as long as you know going in that it's not necessarily "free" (you have to sign up for credit monitoring services that charge). The only source for true free credit reports is the once-a-year annualcreditreport.com site.
I personally use creditkarma.com, it's free, you get a score calculated by your TransUnion credit report, and targeted credit card and loan offers even. Has a bunch of tools to help you manage your finances and credit too.
Thanks for the replies. I didn't find any mention of an Android app on the freecreditreport.com website. Doesn't mean it isn't legit, but you can never be too cautious.

I need your help about my website

Edited - problem solved for now. Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, that will last.
How long do you have and what is the next level of bandwidth cost?
Just tell me about another free server and how I can transfer all my crap there. I don't know how long I have. I just got their notice.
Just thought I'd throw this out there but it sounds you should sell some add space. It is a great site and the traffic is only going to increase, especially once you get all the "how too's" posted. Then you'll get return "business". You could finally make a little $ for your time and effort. Good job, keep up the good work. In the meantime, I'll figure out how to make a donation using paypal and hope others follow my example.
Sorry, I don't have any information for you on a different web hosting service.
How do I "sell" ad space?
Ya, the first day of launch it got 500 people visiting it. It's increasing daily. I basically used up my monthly bandwidth limit in less than a week's time. And my website doesn't even show up on google yet.
Check this out. I found it after a quick google search. There were tons of others but this one was very infirmative and offered several different methods of how to do it. Think about who your perspective clients are and I believe that your site will sell itself. Show them the numbers and make it attractive for those that get in on the ground level. Then as it gets more traffic you can change your method of billing or charge more, or even have some length to your contracts. Check this out:
http://www.websitetoad.com/sell-advertising-space.htm
If this is not appropriate to post this link please delete it.
Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, this will last.
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Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, this will last.
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Put up a PayPal donate button on the site. I am sure people will share the love.
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Put up a PayPal donate button on the site. I am sure people will share the love.
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It's there - he's got it at the bottom of "Start Here".
Just donated - that site is a really big help to direct users to the usual questions that come up.

The HP Touchpad Demo Unit (OLD)

Well I bought the last touchpad in my area (after ordering from BB online and getting a backordered email) and it is the demo model which will not let me set up a webos account or anything. I read over in the pre forums about it and posted there as well but was hoping maybe someone here might know a way around this?
I am calling HP tomorrow because I read that the serial numbers are locked to a demo unit in case of theft and they can remove the lock so you can use it normally (crossing fingers) but I really do not know till they open tomorrow. I called the WebOS number included in the box and they said to exchange it for another one (I laughed) and then they said to just return it. I really want to have one of these things to play with so any help is really appreciated.
Waiting till the touchandroid thing comes out might not help since I have to return it within 14 days I believe for them to give me my money back. I would have to have a perfectly working tablet to keep it rather than spending $150 on a demo unit that wont work.
Hoping for help
Mike
KnightRid said:
Well I bought the last touchpad in my area (after ordering from BB online and getting a backordered email) and it is the demo model which will not let me set up a webos account or anything. I read over in the pre forums about it and posted there as well but was hoping maybe someone here might know a way around this?
I am calling HP tomorrow because I read that the serial numbers are locked to a demo unit in case of theft and they can remove the lock so you can use it normally (crossing fingers) but I really do not know till they open tomorrow. I called the WebOS number included in the box and they said to exchange it for another one (I laughed) and then they said to just return it. I really want to have one of these things to play with so any help is really appreciated.
Waiting till the touchandroid thing comes out might not help since I have to return it within 14 days I believe for them to give me my money back. I would have to have a perfectly working tablet to keep it rather than spending $150 on a demo unit that wont work.
Hoping for help
Mike
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Or, buy one from here (16GB for $99 with $5 shipping) and when you get a tracking number, return the one you have for a refund.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056UOUC8
Thanx for the link but on my end they are all showing as $415.53 and up - even on the right hand side of the page where amazon keeps other sellers. Lowest priced one says $234.98.
I am still hoping HP will fix this.
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Thanx for the link but on my end they are all showing as $415.53 and up - even on the right hand side of the page where amazon keeps other sellers. Lowest priced one says $234.98.
I am still hoping HP will fix this.
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Yeah, sorry man. the price was $100, but that company appears to have sold out. The name has changed which is weird that Amazon would have the same link for a different company.
Check here:
HP TouchPad Demo Unit Solution - Bypass Activation
I put together some instructions that where complied from a few sites; has worked for quite a few others.
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Check here:
HP TouchPad Demo Unit Solution - Bypass Activation
I put together some instructions that where complied from a few sites; has worked for quite a few others.
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Very nice! Now if we could get to register webos accounts, we wouldnt need HP anymore
I may do this later today after seeing if HP will fix the demo units or not. Still might keep it, I don't know yet.
The activation bypass works to an extent. You can get past the webos login, and enable developer privs to add homebrewed apps thru preware, but it seems very unlikely that you can sideload the apps only available through the login app store. At least you can web browse and watch movies and such on it. If anyone knows how to get non homebrewed apps on it, i would like to know. For now, i think its worth the value, even for the demo unit, to wait for android port.
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Just spoke with someone at the 1-866-477-3824 number and she told me I am basically out of luck. She is transferring me to tech support now to see if they know of a way to do it but it is looking like HP is gonna be pricks and not release the serials. She told me the serial numbers for demo units are set to not allow the webos account creation and access so if they wanted to, they could release them it seems.
Ok tech support just hung up on me - gotta love it.
WebOS account
OK well I was doing some thinking and can think of 2 possible ways to fix the app problem. 1 is impostah and changing everything we can to clone a non demo touchpad. This will hopefully fool them into allowing us to create or log into an account. If this doesn't work my second idea is a better app repository to put apps onto it. Since HP is discontinuing it's work on the webOS we will likely have a need for the repository eventually.
I know there is the homebrew repository but one that also has apps from the official store would be awesome. An all in one app store that is completely free and open. Would be a first to some degree on the mobile platform. I would set this up but I can't access the app store so wouldn't be able to contact Devs and such about putting their apps onto it.
This is basically PreWare. Except it wouldn't fly because of all the warez. PreWare is fine for now. Put your effort into that since it is already going strong.
preware
Preware just doesn't have very many (useful) apps available.
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Very nice! Now if we could get to register webos accounts, we wouldnt need HP anymore
I may do this later today after seeing if HP will fix the demo units or not. Still might keep it, I don't know yet.
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I have found a way to Create a WEBOS account after going into Developer mode. Now i am using WEBOSDoctor to reinstall WebOS 3.0.2 and will try logining in with the account I Just creadted. I can log into the WEBOS site online through HP's website which it didnt allow me to do earlier. Will keep everyone posted!
IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took everyone's work so far and went a step further so I am taking as much credit as everyone else who managed to crack this! I first flashed it using WEBOSDoctor to 3.0.2. Then i used the devicetool.jar to put it into Developer mode. Then I used Preware to install Impostah. I then used Impostah to create a WEBOS account. Reflashed it to 3.0.2 using WEBOSDoctor and logged in with the WEBOS account I had just created! Then once up I launched the HP APP STORE and it came up with an error. I closed it out waited a few more minutes and the loaded it again and quickly tapped on the Categories tab at the bottom. Clicked on Games and Installed Angry Birds. WE HAVE ALL CRACKED THIS AND NO LONGER NEED TO FIGHT WITH HP OR RETURN OUR UNITS TO THE STORES! GREAT JOB EVERYONE INVOLVED!
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IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took everyone's work so far and went a step further so I am taking as much credit as everyone else who managed to crack this! I first flashed it using WEBOSDoctor to 3.0.2. Then i used the devicetool.jar to put it into Developer mode. Then I used Preware to install Impostah. I then used Impostah to create a WEBOS account. Reflashed it to 3.0.2 using WEBOSDoctor and logged in with the WEBOS account I had just created! Then once up I launched the HP APP STORE and it came up with an error. I closed it out waited a few more minutes and the loaded it again and quickly tapped on the Categories tab at the bottom. Clicked on Games and Installed Angry Birds. WE HAVE ALL CRACKED THIS AND NO LONGER NEED TO FIGHT WITH HP OR RETURN OUR UNITS TO THE STORES! GREAT JOB EVERYONE INVOLVED!
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Confirmed this worked!!!, but in a different manner. I didn't use Impostah to accomplish the fix.
1) Went to https://developer.palm.com/
2) Signed up for Developers Account (disregard paypal memo)
3) Fill out info (first name, last name, email), click continue.
4) Check your e-mail, and validate your WEBOS developers account.
5) From registration page, fill out e-mail address, create a pw, and choose/create a security question; Continue.
6) Fill out Contact Information; Continue.
7) Once you reach Tax Info page, just close your page (you might be able to earlier than this, but I went that far and it worked).
Your account is "kinda" created.
8) Turn on HP Touchpad (you might have to follow Mattatha's instructions above), and get to WEBOS login screen. Choose Create Profile, and type in the same Name, E-mail, password, security question as you created earlier.
Note* I tried clicking Sign In on my HP Touchpad after doing steps 1-7, but it still didn't seem to work, but step #8 got me in, and able to use the app store.
Verify your login my going to Device Info.
Enjoy your HP Touchpad Demo with full capabilities!
Called the store i got it from and they told me if I try this they will not take it back. They said if HP won't help, I can get a refund unless I try to hack around the demo stuff.
If I try this and it does not work for me, is there a way to put the demo software back on and remove everything else?
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Called the store i got it from and they told me if I try this they will not take it back. They said if HP won't help, I can get a refund unless I try to hack around the demo stuff.
If I try this and it does not work for me, is there a way to put the demo software back on and remove everything else?
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Someone else had asked for it as well and on one of the forums there was a link to it. But trust us this will work!
I had created a developer account as well but it didnt let me log in with it.... Nice job though!
Also Knightrid what store did you buy it from cause that is BS!!!
You can now create a WebOS account
you can now create a WebOs Account ...if you bought a demo unit
Mattatha said:
I had created a developer account as well but it didnt let me log in with it.... Nice job though!
Also Knightrid what store did you buy it from cause that is BS!!!
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RadioShark - they said if it is not in the same condition they do not have to take it as a return.
I may give this a shot, just wish I knew if the one I ordered from BB was gonna ship (won't let me cancel anymore but still says "Order Status: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in null - null days."), if so, I would return this in a heartbeat.
If I do try it then the wife would have to let me keep both of them if the BB one ships too LOL If she doesn't kill me, then she would get to keep both
Trying to figure out how to do the preware and impostah thing right now - if I figure it out, I think I will try that way to see how it goes. I am afraid the developer accounts may get cancelled after a certain period of time without having the paypal and tax info in them (I don't know if this will happen, I am just thinking it may).
You guys/gals/people/aliens are awesome for figuring this stuff out! Came here for my Droid Eris and have Cyanogenmod on it now Awesome site!
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RadioShark - they said if it is not in the same condition they do not have to take it as a return.
I may give this a shot, just wish I knew if the one I ordered from BB was gonna ship (won't let me cancel anymore but still says "Order Status: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in null - null days."), if so, I would return this in a heartbeat.
If I do try it then the wife would have to let me keep both of them if the BB one ships too LOL If she doesn't kill me, then she would get to keep both
Trying to figure out how to do the preware and impostah thing right now - if I figure it out, I think I will try that way to see how it goes. I am afraid the developer accounts may get cancelled after a certain period of time without having the paypal and tax info in them (I don't know if this will happen, I am just thinking it may).
You guys/gals/people/aliens are awesome for figuring this stuff out! Came here for my Droid Eris and have Cyanogenmod on it now Awesome site!
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Tell them at Radio Shack they are full of ****! I am a store manager for them and there is a specific memo that went out company wide yesterday to allow returns of ALL demo's sold. It said NOTHING about condition so they CAN NOT tell you no.

[Q] I did you a favour, then what?

Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
DarknessWarrior said:
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers

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