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I'm a teacher in a secondary school. I've got my eye on a Flyer just because they're the nicest tablet so far and I like the look of the pen.
From experience, can you tell me whether it'd make life easier as a teacher? I'd like to be able to run my lessons on it - that means having a lesson plan document (A4 doc file) open to refer to, take a register (again probably a doc or xls file of names but can create something specifically) and also note things like names I need to speak to or credits I need to give as the lesson goes on, recording grades and marks etc. The grades and marks sheet would be added to constantly through the year as a single document, lesson notes for credits/warnings are fairly temporary.
I'm also thinking it would be good to take notes in meetings, since I tend to make a few notes and lose them or not have a way of keeping them handy. I could scan in any documents I get handed during meetings and keep it all together.
All the docs I create and play with would need to be editable or at least viewable and sharable on mac and pc.
How are you guys getting on with yours and do you think the Flyer can help geekify my lessons and be better than hundreds of bits of paper? Or do you think waiting for the Puccini is worthwhile (I'm liking the portability of the Flyer more)
Also anyone want to write me a register-taking, grade keeping, lesson management app?!
I'm really surprised why everyone doesn't have a flyer by now =)
Well, anyone who takes notes and has to mark things up at least.
The Pucinni, yes - good. If you NEED the screen size, then I really think it's going to be the best bet. OR if you NEED to play all those HD games, then sure - it has a faster processor.
However, if you're just looking to get stuff done and you like even greater portability, then you can't go wrong with a Flyer.
You can get the MHL cable and use HDMI out so you (should) be able to basically turn your Flyer into a really good presentation tool when hooked up to a projector. Think of the pen there as your little pointer/highlighter...Which you can hide with a single tap and show again with another.
Then you can instantly e-mail out any screen you mark up...So while you're presenting and someone wants whatever screen/slide you're on e-mailed to them with all the markings (or not) you can very easily do so.
I think that alone makes the Flyer (and Pucinni) a KILLER device for lectures, presentations, etc. Hands down you can't beat it.
That said...I DID get an MHL cable and I can't quite seem to hook mine up to my monitor with it. I'm not sure why. So a little research into that...But I think it "should" work. I am using an HDMI -> DVI. So that could be why.
Anyway, as far as pen accuracy is concerned - it's quite accurate. I still would love to take more hand written notes, but I have to admit you fit more on the screen when typing...So I just find it faster to type still even on a virtual keyboard.
IF it had some sort of OCR system (like Palm Pilots back in the day or Windows devices) then it would be faster. It would be rock solid.
In my opinion, that is the ONLY thing that's missing from the Flyer. I can live without it, but if it existed, then I think the value of the device would increase even more.
I really don't know about any software for teachers...But check the Android market. Just note that not many (any really) apps are out there yet that take advantage of the pen (HTC Scribe) yet other than those that come with the device.
Yeah, OCR would be awesome though I guess it would slow everything down.
I'm thinking that I'll. use my laptop for presentations etc, this would literally replace my file of paper I have for each class. With an Office app and the pen, I'm pretty sure it'll do anything o need...
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Hi
I'm a teacher in a secondary school. I've got my eye on a Flyer just because they're the nicest tablet so far and I like the look of the pen.
From experience, can you tell me whether it'd make life easier as a teacher? I'd like to be able to run my lessons on it - that means having a lesson plan document (A4 doc file) open to refer to, take a register (again probably a doc or xls file of names but can create something specifically) and also note things like names I need to speak to or credits I need to give as the lesson goes on, recording grades and marks etc. The grades and marks sheet would be added to constantly through the year as a single document, lesson notes for credits/warnings are fairly temporary.
I'm also thinking it would be good to take notes in meetings, since I tend to make a few notes and lose them or not have a way of keeping them handy. I could scan in any documents I get handed during meetings and keep it all together.
All the docs I create and play with would need to be editable or at least viewable and sharable on mac and pc.
How are you guys getting on with yours and do you think the Flyer can help geekify my lessons and be better than hundreds of bits of paper? Or do you think waiting for the Puccini is worthwhile (I'm liking the portability of the Flyer more)
Also anyone want to write me a register-taking, grade keeping, lesson management app?!
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Okay... well the answer in general would be a "yes" but things to consider:
1) your eyesight: I have o problem reading a full page (letter/A4 size) on the screen but I have had people comment on how I can read something that small. Only two suggestions occur to me here. You can take one of the sheets you want to read on it and shrink it on a copier until the text area is 7" diagonally (ignore the margins, zoom is your friend on a tablet ), or if it's a matter of resolution check out an old netbook and imagine it smaller (older nettbooks have the same screen resolution, just 10" instead of 7", some of the newer ones are higher definition so be careful with that).
Office (excel, etc.) works find and can be saved. So anything requiring those can be seen and edited on the tablet as well as the computer.
The notes app is great in many ways. Yes, you will most likely never write as quickly on it as on a dedicated keyboard but it depends on your note taking style. If you jot down key points (which is made more feasible by the audio record function) then it should present no problems. If you want to transcribe an entire meeting word for word... then it most likely won't do.
Notes in the notes app are infinite in size but they can get laggy from what I've heard when they get really big and obviously office files can be edited and added to without any real limit.
And the Flyer is great for referring to notes when you need to check stuff like credits/warnings. If you include then in your lesson plan you can easily highlight them for an easier referral.
As for the suggestion for projections/presentations. Yes, a laptop might be convenient, but if you get the Flyer working then it should also work well: you can circle, underline, highlight items on the screen and the students can see it. it all depends on the specific presentation and what you'll be doing (and as Tom mentioned you can toggle all your pen markings on and off with a single tap for the "unadulterated" view of the screen.
There are OCR apps on the market though I haven't tried them so no comment (if you have an Android phone you could test them out and adjust the times needed for the OCR process according as the Flyer should be faster than most phones).
Also remember that any picture integrated into the notes app becomes searchable on Evernote. the downside is that pics in the Notes app look really small in the notes app (passable in landscape orientation) even though you can see them full size in Evernote applications as well as the website.
The Flyer can help you become more organized and deal with all those lose little papers you tend to accumulate (it's one of my reasons for getting it) although as always it will depend on how much effort you are willing to put in (although the aforementioned searchability on Evernote and such make life a skosh easier even if you're not generally organized).
WANT!
I don't need to view a whole A4 at once - I'll use it landscape and scroll.
How is it for swapping quickly between documents, i.e. lesson plan, markbook and class list/notes?
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!!11oneone,
The Flyer is a good tablet for academic people. I just recommended to a friend doing Phd. He is enjoying it.
If you open any .pdf book on the Flyer. I will auto-resize it so that the font is not too big or too small. Plus, like you said you can view in landscape or portrait.
You can also highlight your pdf he books and save it with the highlights. At the same time you can scribble on the same page you highlight and save it along using the PdfViewer provided by HTC. It is just a good tool for people you like reading, making hand written notes, want to quickly sketch an idea for future reference. Or even record voice along with hand written notes.
It is just a great tool.
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I can only comment on the use of the notes feature for, well notes. I haven't used a notebook for recording meeting notes for over two weeks. I must have access to customer meeting notes and the portability of the Flyer alone versus a number of paper notebooks has been fantastic.
The audio recording implementation is good and has enabled me to reduce the volume of written notes to just points I need to take action on.
Knowing that the audio is time stamped (though not as well as a Live Scribe system) means you can also make a note about a discussion worth referring to only if needed in the future. Audio file sizes are surprisingly small.
I do recommend installing the Evernote app as well given it has better note management tools.
My handwriting is shocking, so I suspect an OCR system would fail me!
from my experience
During first days of use of my Flyer I used pen a lot and drove like crazy..but than I noticed 10 scratches on my screen and it is very hard to live with it. Don`t get why they make pen for non scratch resistant screen
Anyway I used to save my notes by default in Evernote account but somebody took my flyer just to look at it and all of my notes were gone. So, there is always risk that your notes, marks, lessons might just disappear.. I suggest you write in some text app like jota text editor or similar.. Still if you want to write it or type it and not worry about losing it, you can always send it to your email as backup..
I also used it for studying, highlighting lessons and stuff but again my screen got all scratched out.. so when I think of selling it cause its too small dont know what price I could get for what is left of it
If you dont plan to use it in subway busses..take some bigger tablet, my eyes hurt sometimes
scrolling gets boring.. I used to use 10 inch tablet and still have my Flyer so that is when I realized how disappointed I was..Couldnt read all you wrote since its 7am here.. but if you have more questions post it and Ill answer..
Has anyone noted any difference in screens between the Flyer and the Evo View? I have read a few posts now about folks scratching their Flyer screens. I have scribbled like nuts on my Evo View screen and its as clean as can be...
have no chance to try View in Serbia
I so envy you sir.. This screen is pissing me off. I thought I study from it and pass some exams but no to small for it.. eyes hurt like I said.
I guess foor students and teachers, if you would like to forget about lap top is something like 10 inch tablet with digital pen and honeycomb.. (second thing I hate about Flyer is Gingerbread..got used to it on my phone so on Flyer it seems so cheap )..
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Hey All,
I have used these forums as my main resource for android for a while now, and this is my first time having to post a question because everything is usually so well documented.
I bought a nook color a while ago, and have love it. I take college classes at night, and obviously would love to use it during said classes. Getting books, and PDF's for it are easy enough, but i am looking for an app to take notes with. I am not a huge fan of using a touchscreen keyboard to take notes which i have done in the past. Does anyone know of a solid handwriting recognition app that would be useful for class? or any other applications that would be useful for class in general?
Thanks You.
I don't think it may work fine for that purpose at least you have a stylus and a handwriting app cause its kinda annoying to take fast notes in this keyboard wether you use portrait or landscape mode because of the size
Sent from my Nook Color using XDA App
There has to be something a little more intuitive to take notes with than having to type everything... right?
So far, the best I have seen for handwriting recognition on android works like so:
Write a word
Wait
Omfg, it guessed wrong, rewrite word
Rinse, repeat until it gets one word right
Class is over
Do yourself a favor and buy a pen and paper
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
You will be good as gold if bluetooth every gets working... A nice mini keyboard would solve your problem
I hear ya man... that would make my life so much easier the day BT gets up and running.
brandsdragon.com/products/product_26269.htm
Nice cheap little mini keyboard like this one would fix my problem.
I did see an handwriting recognition app that is similar to how the old palm pilots used to do hwr, but i hated using in on the palm, and still hate it on android.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/genial-writing/com.zenpie.genialwriting
This is the best app I've found so far. My biggest problem has actually been the NC's screen. There don't seem to be enough contact points or something to make for accurate enough writing.
Can't wait for the BT day either.
I mostly use my Nook Color as a supplement to my desktop at home in college. We are a big Google Apps school so we share everything over Google Docs. I use quickoffice to access my google docs from my nook and view my presentations and notes no there. I do everything except take notes on there, because its just not possible. Wait for bluetooth and then we might have progress.
Here is a decent, admittedly roundabout set up i've come up with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10689802#post10689802
Also, I did see (but didn't buy) a stylus made for ipad and other capacitative touch screens (such as nook color screen). It was $14.99 at microcenter in the ipad accessories section. Could work well in combination with a sketchpad type app... not handwriting recognition, but just handwriting.
Thanks for all the input guys, sadly it seems that i will have to wait until we get BT working. I have been paying attention to the progress of some of the people working on enabling BT. Does anyone know if there is a particular BT initiative that has been making more progress over the others?
At the moment there is only one person that I see working on it in the bluetooth thread.
My plan (I will start using my NC for classes tomorrow) is to use an app called blackink. You can have different notebooks for class and either draw notes or type notes. You can also sync to evernote and dropbox. At the very least I will be using evernote, dropbox and a scanner to minimize the files I keep from classes. But yes, if a working BT happens note taking in class will be much easier!
Seriously, what happened to taking notes, then transcribing them later, adding details, revising? For me it helps solidify the information in my WET data storage.
I teach first year English, am a grad student, and I use this thing with taking notes, reading pdfs, etc. The best setup I've gotten really fast with is using Evernote (which syncs between my ios devices and my Macbook) with the SlideIT keyboard. Certainly faster than trying to use handwriting recognition or the few times I've played with the ipad on screen keyboard. I usually ignore errors and clean up the notes later when I'm at my macbook. Almost as fast as writing by hand, for me at least.
Nb I also really push for my students to use Evernote. The Mac version is slightly more full featured than the windows one, but both are good and the android and ios versions are great.
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I tried a targus stylus made for the ipad and it didn't work out too well at all. I tried it in magic doodle and it can't even draw a straight line or circle consistently. Something about the nc touch screen just don't make a stylus conducive for sketching or note taking, cuz apparently reviewers thought the stylus worked great on the ipad. Can't wait until a tab with integrated wacom is released.
this is an offbeat solution, but in my classes, i have a macbook air (11 inch). i use the tab only when i surf and use it to stay low profile.
I've been using my Nook Color in class for about a week now. I'll share my thoughts.
1. Note-taking is a pain, and you'll only complicate your life by trying to use handwriting recognition or drawing software. I work at our campus computer store, and people have tried for a year or more to use styluses for handwritten data entry on capacitive touch screens. The mushy point on the iPad stylus that allows it to work is much closer to Sharpie thickness than a typical pen or pencil. Unless you want to have hundreds of notes that look like they were written by a kindergarten student, you should go a different route.
2. Evernote is not as useful as I had hoped. I'm used to having the ability to record audio notes with my Droid, and that's impossible with the nook at this point because it doesn't have a microphone. I've seen audio minijack add-ons for the iPod Touch that would record audio despite the lack of native support, but it will be a while before we see that on the Nook, if ever. That said, I've also tried typing on both the default keyboard and SlideIT, the latter of which cannot hold a candle to Swype. My solution? I carry a small notepad and record the audio to Evernote using my phone.
3. eBooks are extremely frustrating at times. I had to pay ~$4 for a copy of the novel My Antonia on Amazon because the free/cheap versions often lack effective ways to navigate. You can flip through a paper book, but, in the Kindle app, trying to navigate to a certain chapter without a Table of Contents is a huge pain. I'm definitely spending less than on print books, but you can't count on finding free options.
4. The native note-taking abilities in the Kindle app are beautiful. I've noticed probably a 300% increase in how much I interact with text when I can touch the text to highlight it rather than having to get a highlighter or sticky note. Being able to see all notes and highlights is also great. Yes, that's more of a Kindle-specific thing, but it looks gorgeous on the screen, and I like that the display is true to the size of a book.
5. Productivity use will remind you how far Android has to come. I've yet to find a clean, simple, and easy-to-use to-do list that can sync to Google Tasks and not look terrible on the screen. Similarly, until moments ago when I saw another post here, I was frustrated that the Calendar didn't work. There have been times in the past week that I've been close to soliciting a developer to create an app that fills the gaps I see.
6. I'm an English major, so a lot of my professors are against having technology in the classroom. I've found that they've all been accepting of ereaders because they assume people won't be using them for Facebook/Twitter/whatever. That's a pretty awesome side, but I'd prefer to use my MBP and MS Office to record my lectures along with markers in the text for going to specific parts of the recording.
I look forward to the day that Bluetooth works on the Nook or when someone creates an iPad/XOOM-style keyboard dock. I know a girl who takes her iPad to class, docks it, and loves the whole experience. I want that, but for half the price and without the walled garden. Still, though, I think the Nook experience would improve dramatically if some skilled developers were given enough motivation/compensation for their efforts.
again, no ipad. macbook air 11. trust me on this u just open and type.
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5. Productivity use will remind you how far Android has to come. I've yet to find a clean, simple, and easy-to-use to-do list that can sync to Google Tasks and not look terrible on the screen. Similarly, until moments ago when I saw another post here, I was frustrated that the Calendar didn't work. There have been times in the past week that I've been close to soliciting a developer to create an app that fills the gaps I see.
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Jorte looks good and works great for me. Give it a try if you haven't already.
Not too useful for school right now, mostly using it as a document viewer in class. Beats a smartphone for simple note-taking in a pinch. Laptops are much popular in my current school than my old one in the US, so the 'less disruptive' tablet issue doesn't apply.
What do you think between the Xoom and the Flyer?
One thing that is actually putting me off the Flyer is the 7" instead of 10"
I am thinking I want a wifi only one for home use - but for home use only I'd want something a little bigger than an oversized phone... any thoughts?
http://www.digitalversus.com/four-tablets-compared-ipad-galaxy-tab-10-1-flyer-xoom-news-18059.html
Since you'll be using it primarily at home, and you didn't mention the need for stylus input, I'd say the XOOM is probably a better choice for you.
Personally, however, I'd get the Flyer for its portability and inking capability.
I don't really have a need for a stylus - I think it's a brilliant addition - and if I had kids (also ones that could be trusted on a tablet ) I think it would be good so they could draw pics and stuff without any mess
Is there any mention of a keyboard add-on for the Flyer (wireless) I think I saw one for Xoom which'd be more of an interest for me as I'd be thinking of replacing my primary laptop with a tablet for most day-to-day stuff if it works well
Of course ultimately it all depends on the price of a wifi-only edition!
I think you summed up the screen size issue pretty well:
- 10" is home use. I have an iPad and it works really well for that. It is really something you can use all around the house with ease and enable you to check the internet in a nice chair, on the coach, etc. But I would not take the iPad in public transport - on a plane yes - and it is not a laptop replacement as some tend to pretend it is - maybe in 3-4 years when it'll be powerful enough and the resolution decent (but then again a mouse OS is much better for working)...
- 7" is for on the go. You can slide the 7" in a pocket, it's lighter, easier to hold in one hand and is a much better size to do things than a smartphone. It's perfect to watch a video, surf the web without having to pinch and zoom all the time, read a book, etc.
I have an iPad, so I don't need the Xoom; I'm more interested by the Flyer because I can take it around with me.
I like the stylus idea if it works. I've seen many videos, but all they show is someone scribbling large ribbons of colour on screen. If you can't write with the stylus; take notes, do some sketches, it is a useless addition. I can't see a lot of potential for a stylus though, especially for 10"; someone sends you a document, you're in a cab, you scribble some notes for feedback and you send it back. Way better than trying to do that over the phone...
Last thing for me is Honeycomb. The Flyer has to be upgraded to Honeycomb - thanks for XDA - as it is very likely that none of the apps produced for Honeycomb will be tablet specific: it would be a shame to have a tablet and not be able to access specific apps developped for that format...
10 inch is great for home use but a pain for everything else. I bought a Galaxy tab to take with me when I leave the house and my ipad stays at home. I got really tired of carrying around the ipad.
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I thought HTC already said that the Flyer will get an official update to Honeycomb at some point?
The XOOm is you want primary home use. The specs are also far superior, dual core etc. But if i were you, i'd choose Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 over the XOOM. some reviews havemt said the XOOm isnt amzing... Also motorola have a bad phone reputation.
If by specs you mean CPU then yes however the Xoom is kinda like a truck with a highly tuned formula one engine. Plenty of power but its all lost in the drivetrain.
In other words, processing power is useless if you have nothing to take advantage of it. I have kicked around with various kernels and hacks on many devices and got some amazing Quadrant benchmark results but in the end, its just for self satisfaction. In normal use it makes little difference.
IMO some of the killer features of the Flyer are:
- Pocketable size
- Guaranteed dev community support
- Timescribe (especially the "pickup where you left off" calendar feature for recurring appointments
- Its a HTC
Lets face it. HTC are still terrible at marketing. The things that make senseUI and their devices great are all of the little things which make using them a great overall experience. You'll never get buyers remorse buying HTC because you always get more than was advertised.
How can you even compare the Xoom and Flyer? To me you might as well be comparing a pda and an XPS laptop. I think they are 2 different classes of device. Pprtability vs multimedia/home use.
I refuse to choose. The way i see it, i would normally spend $1200 on Descent laptop. Why not buy a Flyer and Xoom (or Asus Transformer) for about $1400?
Basically. ... I want BOTH!!!!!
Tabbed on my Galaxy 987
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Right! I'd like to know if you can write while you have your hand resting on the screen. That goes for the XOOM, too. I want something close to "natural", and when I write, I have my hand and all sorts of fingers dragging around on the sheet.
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Right! I'd like to know if you can write while you have your hand resting on the screen. That goes for the XOOM, too. I want something close to "natural", and when I write, I have my hand and all sorts of fingers dragging around on the sheet.
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It does have the ability to detect your hand vs the stylus. From what has been published so far,it looks like it works extremely well. Will have to wait till I get my hands on one ( ) to see if it is really as good as it looks.
Hi there.
I read through the forums here looking for answers to my specific questions, but found them only partly answered, so I thought a new thread might be justified. Truth be told, the noob video kinda scared me out of posting, so I guess it suits its purpose.
So, here's my story:
I've been looking for a device to view, read and annotate digital texts and ebooks with for quite some time. I read a lot of papers (mostly PDF, some DOC and ePUB), and until now I've always gone back to printing and adding handwritten notes on the side.
So my question now is: How well can the flyer handle that sort of job.
Here's a list of jobs/things it would need to do:
-reasonably view all kinds of formats (text-PDF, image-PDF, epub, doc etc.)
-highlight, mark and annotate texts
-ability to hide/display on and export those annotations to other devices (at least windows-based systems)
-note syncing with evernote/dropbox or similar would be a plus, but storing the notes within the actual files is sufficient
I've read up on the flyer around the web, but couldn't quite figure out how well it does fit my demands. From what I gathered so far, the scribe pen notations seem to be rather tightly bound to the device, which would be somewhat counter-productive.
So I would highly appreciate it, if someone who uses the flyer in a similar fashion could comment on this, or possibly recommend a better fitting device (I have been eyeballing quite a few over the years, but none seemed as promising as the flyer does).
Thanks!
I am a scientist, and I purchased the Flyer primarily to annotate PDF files. Here is my opinion.
The native pdf viewer is adequate. It is not good, and not bad. Annotating is very easy, and overall a very positive experience. Except for one GLARING problem. The pen size in the pdf annotation cannot get small enough. Zoomed in, the pen size is so large you can only fit 1-2 words of annotation in the side margins, and you can BARELY underline txt (let alone try and fix txt in between lines). HTC "knows" about this issue, but that is all they have stated. I contacted another PDF program (eezpdf or something like that) they said they are planning on supporting pen devices in the future, but would not commit to the Flyer specifically.
It is usable in it's current form, just not as I imagined.
The ebook reader is an absolute delight. They (I guess it would be Borders who made it) should be commended. If you can/want, I would convert all your pdf's to ebooks to annotate.
The note application has some issues (in landscape mode the pen side is still too big for my taste), but it is also overall good. Some additional work could be done here with the palm recognition.
Hope this helps.
I think Flyer is not perfect for academic use because right now there are so many limitation in software implementation for the first kind of android tablet which uses active digitizer. So the problem resides not on the hardware but on the low maturity of the software.
I think we can compromise the limitations, and with some tweakings, we can become very productive with Flyer. Not just because of the magic pen, but also form factor and the speed of multitasking work with this tablet.
If you plan to do full scribble activity, the easiest way to do that is by making some empty pdf pages which can be write with magic pen without automatic saving trouble and activation of soft keyboard.
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I agree with the above posts. If you're willing to work with the limited software, the Flyer is viable for accomplishing your listed task.
The pen enabled Kobo reader does a good job of highlighting, markup and handwritten annotations of epub. It does not natively recognize pdf, but there are programs which can convert the PDFs to epub for imported into Kobo. I use Caliber on my Windows machine. The conversion is fairly straightforward, but it is an extra step (saving the converted epub to dropbox is a quick way of getting the disc onto the Flyer).
The pen enabled PDF reader, I believe from Foxit, can highlight text, but the line weight is too thick. But usable in a bind. I can sign docs, flatten and return to the sender.
I'm not sure about creating a blank PDF for scribble... The auto-saving can get in the way sometimes, but it hasn't bothered me, I don't take notes non-stop though. Learning to touch the pen tip down before andor touching the edge of the note with your other hand reduces the keyboard from popping up.
As with anything you would be the best judge of the functionality. Find a Flyer from a local retailer with a generous return policy.
Hope that helps.
I bought the Flyer with many of the same motivations that you have, as I work extensively with documents. For the most part, it has fulfilled my needs very well, though I do agree with some of the shortcomings raised by other posters here regarding the PDF application.
The Polaris Office app lets you use the pen to mark up Word and Excel documents and the comments you make with the pen are then visible on your PC. If you have access to Word versions of a document rather than PDF this may be a better option as the pen width is much better. Marking up documents in the Reader app is a delight, but I can't seem to find a way to view what you've done in the book on other devices.
The only other device I've had that allowed me the same kind of flexibility was a fully fledged Windows tablet. That allowed me to do a lot more, but couldn't compare to the ease of portability of the Flyer. I think it's a winner of you have to work with documents a lot.
Thank you all for your replies so far.
I have a follow-up question though: Since the flyer has been around for a bit now and you probably all have some perspective on how the developer community is coming along, I'm wondering: Do you think there will be enough community support to keep the device somewhat viable (particularly in this specific field of usage), even if HTC is lackluster in supporting it?
There are more tablets coming this winter with pen support. So, I would say there will be plenty of roms and apps to come. Sammy, eeepad memo from Asus and a few others have them coming. Pen support is a must have for a tablet and I bet the new HTC Puccini will even have some type of support. It will be refined within this tablets lifetime in my opinion. If you are not afraid to wait and not afraid of maybe quality problems then the memo is due in December. I wouldn't though. Asus has fallen off over the years. HTC makes a good product and they support it. This pad will get better along with its pen apps. I've used the other tablets and owned two Sammy 10.1 tablets. I still came back to this one for college use.
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Thank you all for your replies so far.
I have a follow-up question though: Since the flyer has been around for a bit now and you probably all have some perspective on how the developer community is coming along, I'm wondering: Do you think there will be enough community support to keep the device somewhat viable (particularly in this specific field of usage), even if HTC is lackluster in supporting it?
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The devs have just achieved S-off (they will be releasing it to us soonish). After, that I know we have 2 devs that own flyers and will probably be cooking roms for it.
kcchen said:
The pen enabled PDF reader, I believe from Foxit, can highlight text, but the line weight is too thick. But usable in a bind. I can sign docs, flatten and return to the sender.
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I bought the device for the same reason as the threadstarter.
I just started my pdh and want to read a lot of PDFs when I travel or just sit in the tube, so I looked for the stylus and the annotation function. Until now (got the Flyer 4 weeks ago) Im very glad that I took the HTC Flyer, because of the size and the performance. But I have one problem with the Foxit PDF reader. I open the data and write something on it, then I save it two or three times. Until now everything is fine. Then when I want to save it again there is some kind of message, that "there is not enough space to save the data" and I cant save the new annotations. It was very frustrating, when I read a 10 pages with a lot of annotations and the save function didnt work... Has anyonehad the same experience or is there another programm (not the ebookreader trick) to annotate pdfs?
The ezPDF reader does not work with the stylus. you cant annotate the PDFs, instead you can just make a screenshot and write on it, but its not the same.
Yes, I'm pretty sure the "not enough space" thing is a bug. I sent HTC a support ticket about it. Don't know the update cycle -- maybe you can add to the complaints
Essentially, it happens whenever I annotate a pdf and save it, and continue reading the same pdf. If I annotate any more and try to save it, it will give "not enough space".
My workaround has been to actually exit to the menu with the list of pdfs after saving, then reopening the same pdf.
Ah okay, I will check this trick. This will spare me a lot of nerves, just save the annotations end the app and restart it
Could users list their creative and best uses for the Notes application. Emailing, notes, websites etc.
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Oh well I definately use it like some sort of print screen application.. things I try not to forget I write over it and save it as my note..also I can find it as jpeg in gallery so its good for that type of use. When Im bored I draw but since lately my screen got scratched I avoid it..
Know this is more digital pen answer but what is notes without pen
anabosk said:
Oh well I definately use it like some sort of print screen application.. things I try not to forget I write over it and save it as my note..also I can find it as jpeg in gallery so its good for that type of use. When Im bored I draw but since lately my screen got scratched I avoid it..
Know this is more digital pen answer but what is notes without pen
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I thought this thread would be inunaudated with great uses...........
To be honest, I simply use the notes application with Evernote on the PC to record all of my customer meetings. The audio integration works excellently and has reduced the volume of notes per meeting. No longer do I have to carry multiple paper note books with me nor flip through pages to find prior notes. Very happy!
My wife and I recently went shopping for a new dishwasher. It was cool to be able to snap a picture of the floor units and take notes (including wriiting down the model numbers to look up online reviews). In case you haven't tried it, pictures you take while the notes app is open are embedded into your note.
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hello,
one question concerning the screenshots made by notes. Is there a way to make them bigger? I'm not able to read the text in the screenshots because of too small and I canot zoom in or find the parameters to save in another size. The screenshot size is ok when working on it (just after creating the shot) but when I safe the note and open it again the size is too small.
thanks a lot
thomas
Use the Evermore app in parallel. Images in notes are able to be manipulated.
A bit of a pain, but i have the two apps set up different ways which works well.
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colonel_elwood said:
Use the Evermore app in parallel. Images in notes are able to be manipulated.
A bit of a pain, but i have the two apps set up different ways which works well.
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I will try this, thanks a lot
They say that the Honeycomb upgrade will expand the use of the Pen and the notes application, Hopefully................
I have actually been using it in class to record the lecture while taking my notes on it. I use it in landscape mode. It takes a bit to get used to and find what pen settings work best, but after the initial curve it works fairly well. I will switch between it and my etextbook and blackboard all at the same time. I have to keep an eye on the back button but have been satisfied with being able to see my notes appear a they were written when the lecture was going on. I bought a transformer this weekend to use for my textbooks and blackboard to take the load off my view. yes I will be using two tablets in class at once but it still beats a huge laptop or a bunch of books and spirals.
I'm a graphic designer for a clothing company. I use it take snap shots of clothes we have made protos of and make comments of changes that are required. Some meetings I'm taking notes while listening and recording comments from merchandisers on what styles sells best. Also while I commute to work in NYC metro, I would usually see few designs I get inspired by and usually sketch the concepts. Its a general good source of data, since I carry it with me everywhere I have access of my thoughts and inspirations on the go. But after making these comments, I really hope HC makes better use of the Tablet and pen. It is lacking in some areas and it is not always the most enjoyable experience. Sketching is okay at best and the longer files tend to be a little laggy. Hoping for a better sketching integration of notes and evernote.
Hi guys! I just made a power point presentation for my research paper i had to do for my studies. Just wanted to share some of my experiences and stuff you have to look out for
So first of all, check out what connections are available to you, you can buy any hdmi cable if your projector supports that. The place where i study has been stupid and went for VGA instead (probably was cheaper?) so you need an adapter from micro HDMI to VGA if you want to use your prime.
I bought the official one from a local online shop. Works perfectly.
So next important thing i found out about: there is no Android App available atm that supports MS office PPT animations. So if you made a slide with 3 points and set them to appear on after another by click, on your tablet it will just show one slide with all points on it.
An easy way to work around that is to make copies of your slides each with an additional point. The result will look exactly the same. Oh and no one likes those fancy fly in animations anyway, they only distract people
Finally what app to use? The prime comes with a pretty capable office app called Polaris. It would be the best as you can simply tap on the left or right side of the screen to go to the next slide. Unfortunately i couldnt get a full screen view with that app. When i open the presentation mode it shrinks the screen and your actual presentation only fills about 3/4 of the screen and there is this ugly blue bar in the bottom (see screenshot, 2nd one is with QuickofficeHD). I hope that gets fixed in a future version! This also happens when you create the presenation directly with the app so i havnt found a workaround for that.
What I ended up using is Quickoffice Pro HD. It has a nice full screen view that fills the screen and you can switch slides by swiping the screen. It also has an autoplay feature for those who want to use that. Make sure to disable it when you launch the presentation because its enabled by default.
Be prepared to fix some text alignment issues once you copied your presentation to you tablet. I had some problems with lists and tabstops, but it was a quick fix.
Also Android doesnt like the Calibri font. Letters are far too close to each other, so make sure to use Arial (which is what i used) or test out your font beforehand.
Cheers and wish me luck its this Wednesday. I guess at this point its still simpler to use your laptop for more lavish stuff. But who wants to use laptops?
good informative post and good luck on Wednesday. you gave me the idea to look for an adapter for HDMI to AV to hook prime up to older t.v.'s also.
This demonstrates one of the reasons why an Android tablet doesn't replace a notebook for everyone. I use animations in my presentations as well, and the trick of making extra slides wouldn't work for me (our animations are quite complex, and really need the usual animation function to work). I'd love an Office-compatible suite that supported more advanced functions like this, or really ANY advanced functions.
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This demonstrates one of the reasons why an Android tablet doesn't replace a notebook for everyone. I use animations in my presentations as well, and the trick of making extra slides wouldn't work for me (our animations are quite complex, and really need the usual animation function to work). I'd love an Office-compatible suite that supported more advanced functions like this, or really ANY advanced functions.
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I'm pretty sure it'll come eventually Its just a software thing, and remember Android Tablets have only come out one year ago (i think the xoom came in late February). These office apps get updated constantly, so its just a matter of time.
But as of now, an Android tablet is not good for very complex presentations. For my needs its perfectly fine though. Really looking forward to how people will react when i only have this thing lying on the table and swiping around on it
wynand32 said:
This demonstrates one of the reasons why an Android tablet doesn't replace a notebook for everyone. I use animations in my presentations as well, and the trick of making extra slides wouldn't work for me (our animations are quite complex, and really need the usual animation function to work). I'd love an Office-compatible suite that supported more advanced functions like this, or really ANY advanced functions.
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Everyone hates Powerpoint animations. Even if they lie and say that they were cute or funny, really everybody hates them.
To put it another way, it is very rare that an animation enhances the information being shown. In general (99% of the time) animations are just a distraction or added in as a "cool" effect to spice up a boring presentation.
This is part of the reason I use .PDF for all of my presentations instead of Powerpoint, even though most people in the company use Powerpoint.
Off-meeting reading (like for people who had to miss the meeting, and who REALLY hate animations) and over-all device compatibility (every phone, tablet, PC, Mac, etc can read .pdf) are the other reasons. Plus Adobe Acrobat is intended for designers (like me) so it is easier to make a NICE looking presentation.
almightywhacko said:
Everyone hates Powerpoint animations. Even if they lie and say that they were cute or funny, really everybody hates them.
To put it another way, it is very rare that an animation enhances the information being shown. In general (99% of the time) animations are just a distraction or added in as a "cool" effect to spice up a boring presentation.
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You're preaching to the choir... I just wish my bosses would understand that.
Thanks !
Just a quick shoutout to say thanks for doing the mini-review. I have my own presentation due in a few weeks and I found you insights helpful.
Cheers!
Did you try using a VNC to access powerpoint for the presentation? I am curious if you would be able to use the full screen presentation mode and how the quality would be.
If there was wi-fi available, you could try using Onlive Desktop next time...
www.desktop.onlive.com
I'm DEFINITELY using this when I get a tablet...
If there was wifi i would use Splashtop Remote desktop, but i wont be having wifi there
Onlive looks ok, but they havnt released it in europe and i'm pretty sure they dont have servers here either. Seems to be pretty laggy for me.