Webtop Questions - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Some ROM's don't come with Webtop so I need to install it in order to get the Webtop HDMI hack to work, that I know, but does the HDMI mirroring work without having Webtop installed at all? Like do I just connect my phone to my TV and it automatically mirrors it? Also, am I able to have the Webtop HDMI hack and HDMI mirroring both on my phone, i.e. they don't conflict with one another? Finally, does HDMI mirroring allow me to play emulators like N64oid and Fpse without lagging like the Webtop HDMI hack does? If anyone can answer even one of these questions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Search is your friend. Heck most if not all your answers are on the first two pages.

pukemon said:
Search is your friend. Heck most if not all your answers are on the first two pages.
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That doesn't help. Just like your post in my other thread so maybe common sense should be your friend.

Reading is your friend. 3 answers to your questions on first page of development forum. You want to uninstall webtop? Flash a new rom.

pukemon said:
Reading is your friend. 3 answers to your questions on first page of development forum. You want to uninstall webtop? Flash a new rom.
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Wow you're dumb. Never do I ask how to uninstall Webtop. Please stop replying to my threads to keep yourself from further embarrassment.

webtop over hdmi. and why i feel dumb and embarassed? you're asking questions that are a few clicks away and digressing over the fact you didn't do your homework. hello search bar.

pukemon said:
webtop over hdmi. and why i feel dumb and embarassed? you're asking questions that are a few clicks away and digressing over the fact you didn't do your homework. hello search bar.
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I'm talking about the HACK in my other post, not Webtop all together. See you posted again and embarrassed yourself again.

Im not talking about uninstalling webtop.
I voided my warranty.

pukemon said:
Im not talking about uninstalling webtop.
I voided my warranty.
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Then why don't you make yourself useful and show me these links to these threads instead of sitting all high and mighty a top your search engine throne?

No thrones here. Just search bars. Hdmi mirroring is no go in landscape. Emulators work. So does lag. If you want to play a fast paced game mario or racing you're probably not going to do so well. If you like rpgs or slower paced game you're good to go.
I voided my warranty.

pukemon said:
No thrones here. Just search bars. Hdmi mirroring is no go in landscape. Emulators work. So does lag. If you want to play a fast paced game mario or racing you're probably not going to do so well. If you like rpgs or slower paced game you're good to go.
I voided my warranty.
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Thank you very much. That's much more helpful. And yes I'm more into RPG's.

I'm playing ff5 on snes emulator. It's slightly choppy. It's good to go though. I hope chrono trigger works well since it's more on the action side of things. Super punch out is unplayable. I haven't tried super mario world. Mario kart i want to try again, but i think it's not going to play so well. I couldn't drive worth a damn and mario kart isn't that hard or fast paced.
I voided my warranty.

pukemon said:
I'm playing ff5 on snes emulator. It's slightly choppy. It's good to go though. I hope chrono trigger works well since it's more on the action side of things. Super punch out is unplayable. I haven't tried super mario world. Mario kart i want to try again, but i think it's not going to play so well. I couldn't drive worth a damn and mario kart isn't that hard or fast paced.
I voided my warranty.
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Are you playing those games through HDMI mirroring? Just wanna make sure.

no. webtop over hdmi and lapdock. i haven't tried hdmi mirroring. don't even know if it works on my phone. i just found out i limited my webtop settings because i had phoneportal froze. oh yeah. if i remember correctly, when you do webtop over hdmi on hdtv, try lower resolutions if allowed. i just thought of that and wonder if that might help performance. i believe most emulators should display 480i since that was native resolution for most games. psx games i believe are that way with exception of a few.

pukemon said:
no. webtop over hdmi and lapdock. i haven't tried hdmi mirroring. don't even know if it works on my phone. i just found out i limited my webtop settings because i had phoneportal froze. oh yeah. if i remember correctly, when you do webtop over hdmi on hdtv, try lower resolutions if allowed. i just thought of that and wonder if that might help performance. i believe most emulators should display 480i since that was native resolution for most games. psx games i believe are that way with exception of a few.
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I'll try and lower the resolution, but I'm gonna try HDMI mirroring. I recently read that it lets you play at full speed, but I've yet to test it out.

hdmi mirroring should allow better framerates most games. i wouldn't expect miracles though. i don't even know if the emulators are using the gpu. and remember it's just mobile processors. emulators are a little more taxing than mobile processors in laptops.

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Snesoid/Nesoid question.

Does snesoid or nesoid run smoothly on the vibrant cause last phone i had it was a bit laggy, so if anybody already has it on their vibrant let me know! Thx
i have all four emulators by Yonghz and they all run phenomenal on the vibrant.
gameboid - perfect
gensoid - perfect
nesoid - perfect
snesoid -perfect
even snesoid now runs Super Mario RPG. BRILLIANT Work!
So they arent laggy like they are on some other phones? Cause i had the mytouch and even that was kinda laggy and choppy on the sound!
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So they arent laggy like they are on some other phones? Cause i had the mytouch and even that was kinda laggy and choppy on the sound!
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MyTouch doesn't have half the CPU or RAM of this phone, and definitely nowhere near the GPU!
Ok well thats all i needed to know Thx guys haa
Runs great sound and all.
Can someone post a vid?
renegadedj said:
i have all four emulators by Yonghz and they all run phenomenal on the vibrant.
gameboid - perfect
gensoid - perfect
nesoid - perfect
snesoid -perfect
even snesoid now runs Super Mario RPG. BRILLIANT Work!
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do you use any kind of gamepad, bluetooth or otherwise?
some of the games (notably RPGs) seem to be fine - but others it seems kinda hard to play without some kind of gamepad.
I played several games for a while on Nesoid and Snesoid and had no problems with the onscreen controls. They both ran perfectly after tweaking some settings and preferences.
I probably play the emulators more than any games from the market.
^ exactly what I was going to say.
Wii Mote apps DO NOT work
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.mercury.inputmethod.wpad
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.ccpcreations.android.WiiUseAndroid
SGS + emulator + tv out + wii mote would be awesome
what are your settings for the multitouch. I try to play mario on Snesoid but can run and jump at the same time.
It does look amazing, its faster that the actual Nintendo game
Do you guys use the on screen D-Pad?
xxMAGIC MANNxx said:
Do you guys use the on screen D-Pad?
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Also curious about this. I know the wii mote thing doesn't work...can I just buy a bluetooth gaming remote?
Help! haha
MTC44 said:
Also curious about this. I know the wii mote thing doesn't work...can I just buy a bluetooth gaming remote?
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This is what I want to know too.
onscreen doesn't work well enough for me
On screen controls work awesome on this phone.. I can still get ultras on killer instinct...
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Yeah and? You don't need to bs us. That stuff is impossible from the phone. I love killer instinct and highly doubt anything other than cinder or the werewolf can be done and unlikely on ultimates. Not to mention that the more I remember of playing that game when I was a kid the more I remembered that other than the finisher ultimate you don't want to do long combos because they are breakable = you lose vs experienced players and vs the ai.
Meanwhile there are other reasons for external controls. 2 player games is one reason. 2 player killer instinct would be a lot more fun.
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junkdruggler said:
On screen controls work awesome on this phone.. I can still get ultras on killer instinct...
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I find that hard to believe, i can barely get a 5 hit combo it's so hard.
I have a question about nesoid that you guys may or may not be able to answer. Its regarding the Game Genie function. I enabled it in options and pointed it to the rom on the sdcard, I enter (for example) unlimited life and unlimited rupees in Legend of Zelda and fire up the game...works great...HOWEVER...when I save the game's state and return to it later (even after re-entering the Game Genie codes), they no longer work after loading my previous state. Do I really have to start the entire game over again if I want to use the game genie codes?

[Video] 20+ of the best android games on the Nook Color

Ever wanted to see how a game would play on your nook color? Did't want to risk the 15 min refund?
Here are some awesome games running on my NC filmed for your delectation!!
[YOUTUBE]www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2XZVduymbw[YOUTUBE]
Couldn't get the embed to work for sum reason...
Thanks for taking the time to make that vid, it was pretty enjoyable to watch. I got jet star stunts, but guerilla bob seems to force close on cm7. It's good of you to show the world that the Nook is actually pretty damn capable for gaming .
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Thanks for taking the time to make that vid, it was pretty enjoyable to watch. I got jet star stunts, but guerilla bob seems to force close on cm7. It's good of you to show the world that the Nook is actually pretty damn capable for gaming .
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never had a single problem with Guerilla Bob on Cm7
Thanks for taking the time to do the initial review for these games, a quick question regarding some of the games, how do you save your points within the games? Since the NookColor only has one key? Do some of the games have a menu button embedded in the game? Thanks for the help in advance!
Very cool video. I've watched it a couple of times already. Bought Armageddon based on it. It would be useful if you could note what OS you are runing and your clock speed.
Oh wow, thank you so much for taking the time to do this. it's awesome.
I use buttonsavior lets u pop up menu back home and search buttons
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Very cool video. I've watched it a couple of times already. Bought Armageddon based on it. It would be useful if you could note what OS you are runing and your clock speed.
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Thanks,
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This is awesome! I had only ever heard of like half of these games! Thanks!
I did some videos of some of my favorite games. The gameloft games can be tricky to get to work however.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxdydqeFt_0&feature=related
I grabbed that Dungeon Defenders ( 1st game ) after watching this video, but I can't seem to get it to play without stuttering alot at the beginning stuff. Is this just the way it is or do I need to do something else to it? I think the game will play ok, not sure yet. It seems just like the cutscene video stuff like How To Play and stuff doesn't work.
Anyone running this and having it work right? Any suggestions?
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I grabbed that Dungeon Defenders ( 1st game ) after watching this video, but I can't seem to get it to play without stuttering alot at the beginning stuff. Is this just the way it is or do I need to do something else to it? I think the game will play ok, not sure yet. It seems just like the cutscene video stuff like How To Play and stuff doesn't work.
Anyone running this and having it work right? Any suggestions?
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yeah it's pretty poor until the game starts
Great video!!!

Shadow Gun

Does it work for any of you? It says that it is incompatible with my phone.
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works fine for me with CM7 installed, even used wifi to download the gamedata...
works on piChrust fw and 0.2.1 faux Kernel
For those of you who have it working I have a question.. Is it REALLY worth the $4.99!? Ive been spoiled by .99c games. Honestly I doubt I purchase it just because of that. But if Im missing out and NEED to play this game could any body offer a brief explanation why? I have read about the game already but would like to hear from someone who is playing on an Atrix. Thanks ahead of time.
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For those of you who have it working I have a question.. Is it REALLY worth the $4.99!? Ive been spoiled by .99c games. Honestly I doubt I purchase it just because of that. But if Im missing out and NEED to play this game could any body offer a brief explanation why? I have read about the game already but would like to hear from someone who is playing on an Atrix. Thanks ahead of time.
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i bought it yesterday, but didn't play it for very long. it's a pretty fun game, and the controls were really intuitive. it's exactly how you would want to control a fps on a touch screen, left side of the screen for moving and right for camera.
the graphics were pretty amazing for a smartphone, i was impressed. and i didn't experience any sort of lag, which was even better (using the 1.0ghz enhanced kernel CM7)
i'd say it's worth the 5 dollars, i only got about half an hour into it so far and was already satisfied with my purchase. the animations are all voice acted so far, gameplay is fun, and controls are great for a touch screen.
I highly recommend this game. Well worth the $5. The controls are much better than the gameloft FPS's that I've played and the graphics are amazing. When you compare the price to a console game it's a no brainer purchase.
On the gameloft shooters they kinda auto aim for you (sorta like goldeneye on n64) but on this game once you press the fire button you can move your finger and move your aim, like having dual joysticks. Also the left joystick appears wherever you put your thumb (on the left half of the screen) eliminating the problem of your finger missing the joystick.
The cover system is easy to use and works well. It's nice to have that instead of just having to run around shooting. The enemy AI isn't as good as many console games but miles ahead of other mobile shooters. Enemies will move from cover to cover, one will stick back while the other tries to flank you, etc.
There are a few very minor glitches here and there, but it runs very well on the atrix.
Well worth it...just be ready to kiss your battery byebye
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Uhm guys I'm using the latest aura and get the "your device is not supported" any clues why? The market on the rom is 3.20
crnkoj said:
Uhm guys I'm using the latest aura and get the "your device is not supported" any clues why? The market on the rom is 3.20
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Has your build.prop been edited to say a different device?
jhotmann said:
Has your build.prop been edited to say a different device?
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Haven't checked, but i haven't modified it, it's the one from aura 1.2.2.1 deblur aura. Might be the 3.2.0 market messes things up.
Definitely worth it,especially considering it'll get an update for multiplayer in the near future apparently (forgot where i read it but it was a legit source). And the game is great to play, it has great graphics and is very smooth and fast.
http://toucharcade.com/2011/09/30/shadowgun-multiplayer-to-release-in-waves-no-eta/
Hey all over in the photon forums I have figured out the mapping to be able to use a PS3 controller with the game. I would post a link but I am on mobile. Look in the photon themes and apps. The title is easy to see. Says Shadowgun available for tegra 2 devices. I have only tested the ps3 controller with the photon so hopefully it works for you guys too.
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I'm using Aura 1.2.2.0 (just haven't made the upgrade to 1.2.2.2 yet) and had the "download is incompatible with your device" from the market, however, I was able to install via market.android.com
Also... Yesterday(?), there was an update available for the game. After installing it, the character was holding an invisible gun that shelled out little pink blocks. Apparently this was a pretty common problem. This was fixed by reinstalling the game after deleting /sdcard/Android/data/com.madfingergames.shadowgun
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...I have figured out the mapping to be able to use a PS3 controller with the game...
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You really have no idea how happy I am to read this.
Edit: Link to jbuggydroid's button mapping post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18796357&postcount=4
Sadly there is no way to make hdmi mirroring with the Atrix... Widescreen that is.
This game is great on both my Atrix and eee pad transformers. For anybody having glitches, just uninstall the game and reinstall. I had to do that on both devices afterthe update. Also for those who have an eee pad with dock, you can plug up an Xbox 360 controller and play the game like it is an Xbox 360 game, just loads faster.
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Is the game worth it? It's a bit like asking if it's worth breathing. The graphics are amazing, the controls are very user-friendly and fun, the game runs without any sort of lag or problem and it's like Resident Evil 5 but for mobile phones.
This is the first game that i actually find worth buying for my Atrix.
Ratings: 10/10.
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Is the game worth it? It's a bit like asking if it's worth breathing. The graphics are amazing, the controls are very user-friendly and fun, the game runs without any sort of lag or problem and it's like Resident Evil 5 but for mobile phones.
This is the first game that i actually find worth buying for my Atrix.
Ratings: 10/10.
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10/10 for me as well.
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Sadly there is no way to make hdmi mirroring with the Atrix... Widescreen that is.
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What do u mean? Atrix can not display it proper on a tv via hdmi?
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What do u mean? Atrix can not display it proper on a tv via hdmi?
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The Atrix does not do HDMI Mirroring in Widescreen.
I suck as FPS and I'm a sucker for eye candy, but I definitely think this is a 10/10. Very well polished game. Some FPS pros might get bored of it but I'm not good enough at the genre to make an informed decision lol
Definitely with $5 or whatever it was.

[Q]Optimal settings for FPSE (Playstation Emulator)?

Hey guys, this is probably a noob question but it's been a long week.
I've got fpse on my phone and I want to play playstation games with it. However, the game keeps hopping between 40fps and 20fps. I know that's nonsense because I could get it steady at 60fps on both my old galaxy tab 10.1 and my epic touch.
So, my question is, what are the optimal settings that I need to enable/disable in order to get 60fps. I know the processor can handle it, lesser processors already have.
Thanks
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Hey guys, this is probably a noob question but it's been a long week.
I've got fpse on my phone and I want to play playstation games with it. However, the game keeps hopping between 40fps and 20fps. I know that's nonsense because I could get it steady at 60fps on both my old galaxy tab 10.1 and my epic touch.
So, my question is, what are the optimal settings that I need to enable/disable in order to get 60fps. I know the processor can handle it, lesser processors already have.
Thanks
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Change frameskip to auto. But my suggestion is get a ps1. I've grown to loathe emulation, especially on phones. Touch controls suck and I know about using a ps3 controller.
It still sucks and looks weird playing games that won't work right because its emulated and on a tiny screen. Yes you can use the media link or mhl, but if your going through all that trouble why not get the console and hook it up. The cost of all that jazz is more expensive than the actual system plus games anyway.
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Change frameskip to auto. But my suggestion is get a ps1. I've grown to loathe emulation, especially on phones. Touch controls suck and I know about using a ps3 controller.
It still sucks and looks weird playing games that won't work right because its emulated and on a tiny screen. Yes you can use the media link or mhl, but if your going through all that trouble why not get the console and hook it up. The cost of all that jazz is more expensive than the actual system plus games anyway.
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Hahaha thank you for your response. The frameskip did most of the work...changing my governor to something other than "conservative" did the rest.
Happily, I actually already have a MHL cable (I use my phone to watch live hockey games...when there isn't a lockout) and a PS3 controller, so I actually do use it as a console. My gf has a PS1 and has a few fun games for it, but I just enough the experience. I do have to play on mute, because sound never seems to work right.

Remote desktop on the nexus 10?

Hey I may be getting a nexus 10 soon, and I was wondering what's possible when using remote desktop apps (like "Splahtop 2") on the nexus 10.
I'm guessing there would be some input lag, but how bad do you think it would be? On the advertisement, they were playing diablo 3, and streaming 1080p through the app so i'm hopeful.
Will it be fast enough to play pc games, watch video or use other applications? This is assuming i'm in the same house as the pc which I would be streaming from.
What do you guys think?
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Hey I may be getting a nexus 10 soon, and I was wondering what's possible when using remote desktop apps (like "Splahtop 2") on the nexus 10.
What do you guys think?
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Yes, Splashtop 2 is fast enough for those uses. One fair warning is that the camera on some games is completely spastic when trying to control through Splashtop so not all games will be playable. Diablo 3 would probably work fine but I'm not sure why you would want to play that game.
I use Splashtop for remote server admin and it works great.
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it could be a really useful app then
Anyone tried playing games using splash top (I think splashtop 2 is supposed to be a lot faster)
And diablo 3 isn't too bad! ;p
Splashtop 2 won't be ideal for games with any kind of 3D camera (most MMORPG/RPGs, FPS's, etc.). Games like Dota 2, osu!, WarCraft III, Diablo III, and Torchlight II however should be fine
Also, Diablo III is meh, but I find it more enjoyable when I don't read why other people dislike it
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Splashtop 2 won't be ideal for games with any kind of 3D camera (most MMORPG/RPGs, FPS's, etc.). Games like Dota 2, osu!, WarCraft III, Diablo III, and Torchlight II however should be fine
Also, Diablo III is meh, but I find it more enjoyable when I don't read why other people dislike it
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Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
Diablo 3 was a fun game. Nothing amazing, just fun
Thisisdom said:
Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
Diablo 3 was a fun game. Nothing amazing, just fun
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I've messed around with using a mouse+KB and haven't been successful with handling the camera in GW2.
Thisisdom said:
Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
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Not entirely sure. I have a drawing tablet for my PC, and I noticed it does the same thing in games with 3d cameras (i'll either look straight up or down and just spin around with any kind of movement).
The mouse control on Splashtop 2 doesn't seem to be absolute, but that doesn't really explain why cameras act that way still :/
As for an alternative to Splashtop 2, some other user on these forums mentioned "Kainy". Doesn't seem to be working great at all for me, but it's only $3, and can apparently be used anywhere (LAN or WAN) with no additional cost. And it claims games can go up to 60 FPS (Splashtop 2 is only 30 FPS, and 2 competitor apps can apparently only do 5 and 10 FPS lol).
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I've messed around with using a mouse+KB and haven't been successful with handling the camera in GW2.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah I think the mouse is probably just an "indication" of where your finger is about to press, and not a proper mouse, if you get what I mean.
So if you've tried gw2, what's the frame rate like? How much input lag is there?
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Not entirely sure. I have a drawing tablet for my PC, and I noticed it does the same thing in games with 3d cameras (i'll either look straight up or down and just spin around with any kind of movement).
The mouse control on Splashtop 2 doesn't seem to be absolute, but that doesn't really explain why cameras act that way still :/
As for an alternative to Splashtop 2, some other user on these forums mentioned "Kainy". Doesn't seem to be working great at all for me, but it's only $3, and can apparently be used anywhere (LAN or WAN) with no additional cost. And it claims games can go up to 60 FPS (Splashtop 2 is only 30 FPS, and 2 competitor apps can apparently only do 5 and 10 FPS lol).
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I wonder if an xbox 360 controller would work when connected through usb... Doubt it though.
I suppose one alternative is a wireless mouse/keyboard connected to my actual laptop and then moved next to the nexus.
And thanks, I'll have a look at that other one. Doubt my laptop can play most games at 60fps anyway though
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