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Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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1) You flashed clockwork mod's recovery. This replaced the stock recovery that you had.
2)Backups are stored in the clockwork floder on your sd card. (always keep the one you made when first rooting) but try not to have too many backups in the folder. It will take a lot of space on your sd card. It will always be available to you to flash back to. It is mainly used if you are going to un-root the device.
3) From this point you want to find a rom that fits you well. The Team Royal roms, for me, run the smoothest. If you like the stock myTouch look then flash the Royal Glacier rom.
4) Make a backup everytime you flash something new. Then go into the sd card and remove the ones you wont need anymore. JUST MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL! They are all saved by date.
I hope this helps
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
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All you did was erase the stock recovery image and replace with one that is actually usable. Nothing to be worried about
Balut20 said:
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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When you do a nandroid back up it is stored on your SDCard. /Sdcard/Clockwork/backup/<the file name>. it will be there until you delete it. I would recommend burning that [your first] Nanadroid backup to a CD-ROM incase you should ever need it. That way you know you will always have it.
I would HIGHLY recommend following the link in my signature to flash 3.0.0.6 recovery image before doing anything else. There are 2 different style ROMs floating Gingerbread [2.3] and FroYo [2.2], the recovery images can get goofy. But the 3.0.0.6 will solve both problems.
neidlinger said:
I would HIGHLY recommend following the link in my signature to flash 3.0.0.6 recovery image before doing anything else. There are 2 different style ROMs floating Gingerbread [2.3] and FroYo [2.2], the recovery images can get goofy. But the 3.0.0.6 will solve both problems.
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i agree!!! it works wonders
also don't forget this thread for TRUE ROOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
and as neidlinger stated, make sure you flash clockwork 3.0.0.6 unless you're planning on flashing CM 7 nightlies/ RC
I reccomend royalthunder by teamroyal
It is by far the fastest rom with good stability, performance and best battery life.
It also has a cool bootanimation with a lightning noise and includes smartass/faux's kernal to OC upto 1.8 ghz xD
i could be wrong, but it doesn't sound like he made a backup. It sounds like he just flashed his recovery and then booted into it after.
Make sure you go to backup/restore in recovery and actually create a backup before you start flashing ROMs.
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also don't forget this thread for TRUE ROOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
and as neidlinger stated, make sure you flash clockwork 3.0.0.6 unless you're planning on flashing CM 7 nightlies/ RC
I reccomend royalthunder by teamroyal
It is by far the fastest rom with good stability, performance and best battery life.
It also has a cool bootanimation with a lightning noise and includes smartass/faux's kernal to OC upto 1.8 ghz xD
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Is RoyalThunder 2.3?
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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I'm actually in the same boat, just a few steps further. I used ROM Manager to flash Clockwork and did a Nandroid backup If you haven't backed up, do that before continuing, and I'd recommend keeping a copy of the stock backup on a hard drive or pc as well as on your sd card (from the SD card, the backup will be in the clockwork folder, mine was about 700 MB).
The problem with ROM Manager is that it gave me CW 3.0.0.5, so I followed the guide to get 3.0.0.6, which worked really well. After that, I flashed Faux's kernel so I could overclock and have better battery managers.
orangemonster said:
Is RoyalThunder 2.3?
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Same question. Not sure what ROM to get because I keep hearing about stability and bugs (wifi not working, etc.) So, I guess what is royal thunder like?
RoyalThunder is a 2.2.1 Froyo ROM port of the Verizon HTC Thunder Bolt. I run this ROM and I have to say its one the best ROMs out. I also recommend the other TeamRoyal ROMs.
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I'd like to be able to use ROM Manager to make backups easier for my wife, and wouldn't mind it myself. We have the stock 4349 firmware that was pushed out a few weeks ago (then retracted), which means a 1.2 kernel.
I have no intention of actually flashing firmware using ROM Manager. I have cwm recovery working just fine, but if I install ROM Manager it can't find cwm and says I need to flash it. If I do flash it, that breaks recovery completely. I suspect the version flashed only works for 1.1 kernels.
Can anyone provide a method for using basic ROM Manager features with a 1.2 kernel?
Which version of CWM is Rom Manager asking you to flash?
I think when I first installed CWM it was version 2.5.1.1-bekit-0.8 however when I installed Rom Manager it did not recognize that version of CWM & it asked me to flash it to CWM 2.5.1.8 which I did & have had no issues with recovery whatsoever.
BTW I'm running one of the CyanogenMod 7 nightly builds.
Are you able to get to the recovery menu whatsoever?
EL TEJANO said:
I'm running one of the CyanogenMod 7 nightly builds.
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CyanogenMod 7 uses a 1.1 kernel, though, doesn't it?
mstevens said:
CyanogenMod 7 uses a 1.1 kernel, though, doesn't it?
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yup, after further reading this may be able to answer some of your quiestions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035983
EL TEJANO said:
yup, after further reading this may be able to answer some of your quiestions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035983
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Not really. That thread discusses recovery issues with the new stock firmware or derivatives of it that use a 1.2 kernel, but doesn't address ROM Manager at all. I have a version of cwm recovery working just fine with my 1.2 kernel. In general, roebeet has taken a solid position against using ROM Manager to flash firmware because it just doesn't work well on our tablets. I'm not trying to flash firmware with it. I just want to use it as a front end to ease the process of creating and managing nandroid backups.
You can create recoveries and restore them from cwm in recovery mode. I don't understand why you need rom manager. You can make a backup and then use a file explorer to re-name the backup whatever you want so your not guessing at dates or rom backed up.
The other alternative would be to use Titanium Backup For Root Users
Mantara said:
I don't understand why you need rom manager. You can make a backup and then use a file explorer to re-name the backup whatever you want so your not guessing at dates or rom backed up.
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Sorry you don't understand. I explained as well as I'm able (and as much as I'm going to) that I'm trying to make the process easier for another user, not myself. In general, it's simpler not to have to go through the steps of manually rebooting into recovery, creating the backup, then using a file explorer to manage the files created and it's way simpler for me not to have to teach and support all those steps.
Ultimately, though, this is not a thread about whether anyone needs ROM Manager. It's a thread about whether and how it's possible to use it with a 1.2 kernel.
EL TEJANO said:
The other alternative would be to use Titanium Backup For Root Users
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Is it possible to create a nandroid backup this way? I hadn't thought so. As far as I can tell, it's also not possible to use it (or at least the free version) to restore to a specific backup point as opposed to the most recent one.
mstevens said:
Is it possible to create a nandroid backup this way? I hadn't thought so. As far as I can tell, it's also not possible to use it (or at least the free version) to restore to a specific backup point as opposed to the most recent one.
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I've never really delved into the whole app itself, though I do use it to restore apps & data after flashing a ROM. However I did see an option that allows one to create a .zip file that can be flashed from the recovery menu, but whether it just does apps or the whole system as well beats me.
Just out of curiosity can you be for sure that flashing the recovery that Rom Manager asks for will in fact break recovery? I mean I myself can't say either way, but if you're willing to take that chance then give it a try. Just make sure to have NVFlash on hand. It's saved me many a heart ache that's for sure.
EL TEJANO said:
Just out of curiosity can you be for sure that flashing the recovery that Rom Manager asks for will in fact break recovery?
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Yes.
As noted in the initial post, "If I do flash it, that breaks recovery completely." I flashed it. It broke recovery. I nvflashed a different version and it restored cwm recovery but wouldn't work with ROM Manager.
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Wipe in clockwork. factory reset/cache/dalvik cache to do a full wipe. the kernel, depending on which one it is, is slightly over clocked. also rom manager does cause problems when installing roms. download them on your pc, or browser via the phone, place on teh root of the sd card (not in a folder) and flash in clock work
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Sounds like you read up on the topic. Thank you. My only advice is that the gb roms all have tiny little bugs in them. Read up and if you don't care go for it.
If you want a completely stable phone... Stick with a group Rom. If you want all the cool new features and don't mind working around a few bugs... Go gb. Also make.sure to use the correct radio. Probably the MR 2!
Good luck.
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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I only use ROM Manager to reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery. It is the second option when you open ROM Manager. My method of flashing a new ROM (performing a full wipe plus a few steps):
1. Reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.
2. Use Nandroid to backup your current configuration. Select backup and restore and then backup.
3. Select wipe data/factory reset. This will wipe all applications, contacts, text messages, bookmarks, etc. There are ways to back this information up (Titanium Backup for applications), but I will not go into full detail here.
4. Select wipe cache partition.
5. Select advanced and then wipe dalvik cache. (Most people recommend doing steps 4 and 5 three times in order to ensure it was done.)
6. Also in the advanced menu, select wipe battery stats. (You should do this when charged 100%, recommended for any new ROM flash.)
For some reason, if you flash in ROM Manager it can corrupt the ROM/flash. To avoid this, always use ClockworkMod Recovery.
If the ROM you flash utilizes one of Imoseyon's kernels (which BAMF does), you can use the speedtweak.sh method in terminal emulator (download from Market) descriped in Imoseyon's kernel thread. With a BAMF ROM, none of this is required. You can utilize the included BAMF Toolkit to overclock/underclock and set the governor. The Toolkit also includes a terminal emulator if you wish to try the speedtweak.sh method.
The above steps should be followed when flashing a new ROM. When upgrading versions of the same ROM, you can generally perform a minimal wipe. My understanding of a minimal wipe is the cache and dalvik cache only (three times).
Hope I didn't leave anything out. If so, others can correct me.
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
seabhac said:
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
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You will also have to flash the MR2 radio. There is a thread in the Development Forum. If you search the thread, you should be able to come up with the method to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115714
I flashed the ROM first, pulled the battery, and then booted in hboot (volume down plus power button). From there, hboot should find the radio and update. Most importantly, make sure the radio file you put on the root of your SD Card is named 'PG05IMG.zip' If you have Windows 7, make sure the .zip is not in there twice. By default, Windows 7 does not show file extensions.
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
alluzzion2o9 said:
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
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Easy way with the MD5 I found is to download AFV (Android File Verifier) from market. I download the ROM from xda app onto phone, run AFV on ROM from phone and verify MD5 while also having thread up on computer. Seems easier with those long numbers.
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
Gutana said:
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
screamworks said:
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
Gutana said:
Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
screamworks said:
SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
Gutana said:
Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
screamworks said:
CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
Gutana said:
Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most
samsung s3 gt i9300 16gb 4.1.2 xxemb2
i am going to follow this guide to root (the basic one u can find in stickies things )
Step 1. Download Odin3.07 from HERE
Step 2. Power off your Galaxy S3. Then hold down Volume Down, Center Home, and Power buttons together until you see the warning screen.
Step 3. Hit Volume Up button to enter Download mode and connect a microUSB cable from your Galaxy S3 to your computer.
Step 4. Next, download GalaxyS3RootNew.zip, unzip the files and run odin3.07.exe by double-clicking on the file.
Step 5. When ODIN program opens, you should find a highlighted yellow box with a random COM number. If you don’t see this, download and install Samsung USB drivers below:
SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones.exe
Step 6. DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE, hit “PDA” button and select the file CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4.tar.
Step 7. Hit “Start” button. This will install ClockworkMod Recovery on your Galaxy S3 i9300. If you get stuck on this step, just try a different USB port.
Step 8. Once ODIN is done flashing, you will see “PASS!” in green highlighted box.
Step 9. Your Galaxy S3 will reboot once into CWM Recovery and automatically install root and Superuser app.
Step 10. Once your phone reboots, you will find an app called “SuperSU”, this is your superuser app.
Step 11. Download and install Titanium Backup app from Play Store to verify you have root, a Superuser request window should pop up.
my questions are : do i need an external memoory card to root ( i have 3GB free space left)
whats the difference bitween CF-root and CF-autoroot ??
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Hey.
No, you don't need any external card to use root. About 10 MB on your internal card should be fine .
CF-AutoRoot isn't same as CF-Root. If you're not going to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc and you just want to have your stock rom rooted then CF-AutoRoot suits you best. However, if you want to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc in future then it's highly advised to use CF-Root which basicly roots your phone and installs custom recovery CWM 5.5 afaik.
If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so.
can u please give me the advantages of custom roms in breef , why would i need them for ? all what im thinking about right now is Adblocker and such things ..
and can i use CF root without installing a ROM for the moment ?? thx a lot
and i didnt understand a word in this paragraph
"If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so."
what is PhilzTouch ???
By the sound of things I would just root for now for the adblocking and then start reading like mad and getting familiar with all the terminology and methodology before going any further.....this is the bit so many people miss and hence end up with a very expensive paper weight and a lot of disappointment and heartache
Basicly "cooked" roms have newest firmware versions, many tweaks, optimization and many things which full stock roms are missing. I'm not going to list all these things, check yourself if you wish.
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There are two ways to "flash" software to your device. Using USB cable and computer (via Odin) or directly from recovery. To do so directly from recovery you need custom (non-stock) recovery which gives you an option to do so. CF-AutoRoot gives you root while CF-Root gives you root + old CWM 5.5 recovery (because CF isn't supporting this method anymore). So basicly if you want to have a great time with your device, flash different roms etc. then you can directly flash modern recovery through odin f.e. PhilZ Touch Recovery without needing to use CF-Root.
All i want now is to have a rooted device on stock .. then i will take my time and read if i wanna add ROM/kernel
what do u think i should do
CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
Just a note that you may want to use the thanks button....it's kind of traditional courtesy when asking for help and receiving it
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CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
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Actually i would suggest the op also get a cuatom recovery into his phone.
Cuz if he f*** up his phone real bad and doesnt have a pc with him (cuz otherwise you would have to use odin to flash, or odin mobile from phone but if ure phone doesnt work, u cant) he can still fix things thru recovery.
Other things recoveries are for is making NANDROID BACKUPS. basically an almost total backup of your phone data: it backups rom, kernel , apps and their data, modem, system cache a bunch of technical stuff.
It doesnt backup other files of course (such as music on ur phone or videos or documents) just what is necessary to make the phone run with ur apps.
The reason this backup is important is because if you f*** up your phone real bad (again, phone can be tricky to hande) you can just flash it clean (you internal phone storage, such as music or any folder which doesnt concern rom, or microsd stuff, wont be touched when you choose "factory reset" in custom recovery)
And restore from a backup when your phone was working. Then u reboot and voila, a trip back into the past!
Might i suggest you also backup the efs folder which is found in the root directory. Nandroids DO NOT cover that. And basically for an s3, if you've got root and internal components are not damaged, if youve got the efs you can fix anything....if ya dont - not so much.
Might suggest once more that IF YOU DONT CARE about all this 'faster roms' kernels and mumbo jumbo root stuff, you still flash a recovery: the most stable one is CWM (clockworkmod recovery). To get it just boot into ur rooted phone, install free app from store "rom manager" and install latest version of recovery. you can boot into phone recovery at ANY GIVEN TIME, just follow instructions u can find on google, pressing buttons at same time and ****.
If ure curious, other recoveries exist:
Clockworkmod touch(premium):it's basically cwm just that it's touch. If you want my point of view...having touch on recovery is stupid and useless...recoveries are for fixin or doing important stuff, you dont wanna mess everything up cuz u touched the screen for mistake. Much better to use buttons and be sure.
Twrp...whatever cant remember da name: same thing as cwm touch, only .......i dunno but cwm is better.
Philz Touch(now this is the real ****!):not stable as cwm. It's a mod of cwm with MANY added cool features such as aroma file browser within the rom and look changing and of course touch( all toucb/double tap touch/touch only for scrolling) but the BEST option is BACKUP COMPRESSION. This little guy made me earn 1gb of free-er space out of my nandroid backups i perform onto my microsd. I went fron 3.5gigs to 2.5gigs. Awesome! Plus you can skip md5 checksum...which is a safety thing of course...but it slows down the backup/restore process, for the most daring disabling it spares them some waiting (nandroids are faster than kies from the pc anyways, no more than 20mins guaranteed!).
If ure interested about kernels i suggest:
Siyah kernel (or syiah...never know which)
Perseus kernel.
They both are good and fast, syiah is more performance, but you can get just the same performance on perseus if you handle the tweaking well and yiu get more battery time.
If youre interested about roms:
Foxhound (most complete one for the s3 i believe, it's packing all you need, and of course it's faster than stock samsung rom)
Rootbox(light rom. Its got less features but still fully packed for speed)
Omega (never tried it. Still have to...but it looks like in this rom look-costumization of look is the easiest thing to do. But i believe foxhound to be fully customizable as well...)
others are also
Jellybam
ResurrectionRemix
Hope i helped you get some root **** together
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Totally agree, never had a problem with it
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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4.89.4 (14.03.2013)
- New Custom Install Zip mode: set a default folder to start with + browse backward up to the root
4.88.5
- toggle menus are now formatted to device screen width (right align menu option)
- add 30mn timezone offset
- merge CM 10.1 commit: Fix segfault with dead symlinks in char** gather_files()
- add extra check for carriage return for get_rom_name function: ensures windobe noobs do not get stuck
4.88.2
- fix: ors backup could overwrite an existing folder and end up with mixed old/new backup images
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Impossible, Phil would include it in his changelog . Also I know what you're talking about, it happens when there isn't a folder clockworkmod on /sdcard , sometimes you need to create it manualy but how often do you format /sdcard anyway? Recovery restores it after reboot anyway.
Also autoupdate from one point of view is a nice feature, I totally agree with that but on the other hand it would require many more things included in the recovery because itself it doesn't support many options, that's why it's called recovery, not a software . Personally I prefer having an option to choose, newer version isn't always better, usually yes, but not always . Also recovery just need to "work", flash roms, make backups and eventually some simple other tasks. I don't need anything else .
Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
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Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
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Root using auto root, then use mobile Odin to flash recovery.img
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Root with cf root then just flash Phil's with the cwm recovery that comes with cf root
georgeskhater said:
Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Doesnt really matter how u root as pong as u do. Once u do run rom manager and update clockworkmod (cuz if u rooted the otherway cwm is probab uoutdated).
If u chose philz just google philz and find the thread (gonna be first on google, if not google philz recovery)
Read the thread well and find i9300 version (best if u choose .zip version flashable with cwm, if not u gotta use tar.gz flashable thru odin) then put it on phone and in recovery flash dat pakage. Then reboot recovery and make sure u configure philz to your liking.
no philz is not included in rom manager.
Rom manager is a weird name, since it's only of use to update to the latest version of cwm, or install it if you still have stock. Thou it does have a list where u can download roms...i dont recommend it cuz it suks..much better for this is goo manager.
But i prefer googling the rom or recovery (if cwm, i would use the app of course) or whatever and downloaing it from source, much safer and has full instructions (needed for some stuff, for example if a rom needs latest gapps cuz not included, apps like rom manager would not tell ya).
Glad to help, if u wanna thank just hit the :thumbup: button...
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Yeah, I don't recommend tools like Rom Manager as well. It's not bad of course but some kind of useless, in my honest opinion at least.
P.S. Like I said if you're going to change rom then you don't need ANY CF-Root, just flash PhilZ (or clean CWM) through odin then flash any pre-rooted rom. CF-Root isn't required here, only if you're not going to change rom, then use cf-autoroot.