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Based on what's happening with the other "new" HTC phones, it's looking more and more like there will not be a way to do a perm root (S=Off) on the EVO 3D, unless by way of the XTC Clip.
So if there's no perm root on any of the other new HTC phones by the time the EVO 3D is release, will you still purchase it? If so, do you not care about root or do you just feel it will eventually happen?
Me... as much as I hate the way Samsung has treated it's customers with the after sales support, I'm starting to seriously consider the SGS II. 3D isn't important to me, but having the support of developers are.
I think it will happen eventually. I can always sell it if it doesn't happen.
I feel it will happen. Even if they never figure a way to unlock the bootloader I'm positive that they will at least get root access and as long as I get my free wireless tethering to work ill be good. Don't get me wrong I'd be dissapointed if they were never be able to crack it, i'll be good with just root.
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I feel it will happen. Even if they never figure a way to unlock the bootloader I'm positive that they will at least get root access and as long as I get my free wireless tethering to work ill be good. Don't get me wrong I'd be dissapointed if they were never be able to crack it, i'll be good with just root.
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I agree. They will figure out a way.
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I agree. They will figure out a way.
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this is the problem with the miracles of developers, they instill so much confidence in us that we think they can do anything. True, where there's a will, there's a way, but an encrypted bootloader is pretty hard to get past, they never did it on any of the Motorola phones, and if the Evo 3D has one, I don't see it being cracked anytime soon. Sure, they were able to hack a lot of older phones, but they were just locked bootloaders, not encrypted.
Personally, I'm getting kind of sick of running custom ROMs now, simply because I now have 2 jobs and don't have the time to configure my phone to my liking every time I flash something different. Though I'd still be pissed with the encrypted bootloader, the option to run a custom rom should still be available if needed
But, with Samsung phones, they are using that horrible filesystem. I mean wow, on the Galaxy S 4G, there is STILL not a Clockworkmod Recovery, which means STILL no ROM's because of the file system issues.
Honestly, if the EVO 3D can't be rooted, and the Galaxy S2 has another bunk filesystem which really can't be modded, I will not be purchasing either.
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But, with Samsung phones, they are using that horrible filesystem. I mean wow, on the Galaxy S 4G, there is STILL not a Clockworkmod Recovery, which means STILL no ROM's because of the file system issues.
Honestly, if the EVO 3D can't be rooted, and the Galaxy S2 has another bunk filesystem which really can't be modded, I will not be purchasing either.
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I'm rooted on an Epic 4G...which uses RFS.
There is no point of even talking about it because it will come how all previous HTC phones have come to sprint. Locked and rooted before its released. These BS scare tactics are more than laughable.
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Samzebian said:
this is the problem with the miracles of developers, they instill so much confidence in us that we think they can do anything. True, where there's a will, there's a way, but an encrypted bootloader is pretty hard to get past, they never did it on any of the Motorola phones, and if the Evo 3D has one, I don't see it being cracked anytime soon. Sure, they were able to hack a lot of older phones, but they were just locked bootloaders, not encrypted.
Personally, I'm getting kind of sick of running custom ROMs now, simply because I now have 2 jobs and don't have the time to configure my phone to my liking every time I flash something different. Though I'd still be pissed with the encrypted bootloader, the option to run a custom rom should still be available if needed
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HTC Sensation, 3D will have bootloader sign, motorola bootloader sign and encrypted is two different things.
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HTC Sensation, 3D will have bootloader sign, motorola bootloader sign and encrypted is two different things.
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That's true, but so far, it seems HTC's new way of signing or whatever they did hasn't been or can't be broken yet with what info is out there. How long has the Incredible S been out now... since late Feb? Still no one has been able to get a software S=off, to give it a permanent root. This has me worried.
As much as I hate Samsung, I think I might need to get the SGS II because I don't want to get a phone that can't get perm root.
Ill get it. If it can't be fully rooted I will reevaluate and decide whether it not to sell it. Sense 3
0 with those specs and partial root may suffice.
Tapa tapa tapa
The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
Yea I will get it regardless. My primary reason for rooting my hero was better performance and softest. But when I buy Sprint''s next flag ship phone, it won't get out dated as fast.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
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Can someone put this quote on repeat?
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No way. I'll keep the OG evo til a GSII shows up on sprint if we cant get full root. At least samsung never locks their stuff up.
Root, or die!
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The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
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Maybe in the US, but it's happened in Europe too. Plus, I read somewhere that Verizon never asked HTC to lock down the bootloader.
I really think it's HTC's doing and I have a feeling it has something to do with that CPO, Kouji Kodera, they picked up from Sony Ericsson.
http://wmpoweruser.com/scary-htc-poaches-sony-ericsson-executives-to-streamline-product-development/
He's probably the guy who got SE to lock down their phones and now is doing it with HTC. Now that SE doesn't have him, they're starting to go the other direction.
Im definitely getting one. The geniuses on xda will figure it out.
EOD is evotastic!
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Maybe in the US, but it's happened in Europe too. Plus, I read somewhere that Verizon never asked HTC to lock down the bootloader.
I really think it's HTC's doing and I have a feeling it has something to do with that CPO, Kouji Kodera, they picked up from Sony Ericsson.
http://wmpoweruser.com/scary-htc-poaches-sony-ericsson-executives-to-streamline-product-development/
He's probably the guy who got SE to lock down their phones and now is doing it with HTC. Now that SE doesn't have him, they're starting to go the other direction.
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This makes a lot of sense. But I really hope you are wrong. For HTC to turn on it's current user base, many of which are involved in android dev, modding, etc at some level. And go in SE's direction would be enough for me to turn my back on HTC all together.
To my way of thinking, Android devices should not only be an open source OS, but should also provide an open development platform. Locking us out of devices that we pay good money for, and until now would have had a reasonable expectation to be able to do what we want with is just wrong.
i can live without root i think for this phone. The new sense on top of 2.3 is so smooth. I think it will happen though.
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i can live without root i think for this phone. The new sense on top of 2.3 is so smooth. I think it will happen though.
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I can live without root... But I really think my enjoyment of the phone would be drastically lower. A few of my every day apps require root permissions, my wifi teathering requires it...
Don't get me wrong, On hardware specs and stock software alone I am excited. But at the same time I have a big problem supporting a company that would slap us in the face like we are Motorola customers.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I am not going to jump on it right at the initial release date like I did with my current Evo.
Dear Austin,
Congratulations on the new purchase of the HTC EVO 3D. We are more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand Austin. We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Locked devices will receive an over the air update from your service provider but as of yet no estimated time of the update release. We currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via our official website and official social media outlets.
Sincerely,
Brian
HTC
Notice what i bolded. Our "locked" device will recieve an OTA unlock!
Will have to wait patiently I guess..
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Dear Austin,
Congratulations on the new purchase of the HTC EVO 3D. We are more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand Austin. We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Locked devices will receive an over the air update from your service provider but as of yet no estimated time of the update release. We currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via our official website and official social media outlets.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW27ENA000066.
Sincerely,
Brian
HTC
Notice what i bolded. Our "locked" device will recieve an OTA unlock!
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Awesome! That's all I needed to hear. A direct statement.
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Awesome! That's all I needed to hear. A direct statement.
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This is what I have been waiting for!
Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4
Yea no ETA could be 6 months from now
Ryan00 said:
Yea no ETA could be 6 months from now
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Let's be a little more realistic. This should be within the next 27 days or HTC with have tons of EVO 3ds
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Haha! Their Facebook page blew the f*ck up.
Hopefully all the feedback did work (again). I know I had my share. LOL. I honestly believe they will decrypt it for us. Just a matter of time.
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As long as it is done before end of July. If not will likely return for the Sprint Galaxy S2. Think there should be an announcement from both Sprint and Samsung in the next few weeks with more details.
Bit would much rather keep my 3VO, with a ROM cooked up by Myn
Sent from my EVO-3D waiting for Myn's ROM
My guess is now that it has been made legit, even if the the OTA has no ETA everything will be AOK because some HTC QA tester will leak some keys to the locked bootloader to XDA on the DL ASAP.
The phone is smoking fast and sense 3.0 is great so I don't care how long it takes.....as long as it gets unlocked i'll be happy
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My guess is now that it has been made legit, even if the the OTA has no ETA everything will be AOK because some HTC QA tester will leak some keys to the locked bootloader to XDA on the DL ASAP.
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Acronym win!
Great news!
Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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sounds like a load of crap. I don't trust them. the facebook onslaught must continue.
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sounds like a load of crap. I don't trust them. the facebook onslaught must continue.
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Oh i agree. keep it going till its officially done and out for everyone.
If you accept an OTA to unlock the 3VO's bootloader, is it possible that Sprint can somehow disable wireless tethering even on a rooted device? I would think that they know what's up; everyone with a rooted device doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot.
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Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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Thanks man. I really throught I had something going because build properties is a digital identity for adb that distinguishes production models from developmental ones.
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RyanInAj said:
If you accept an OTA to unlock the 3VO's bootloader, is it possible that Sprint can somehow disable wireless tethering even on a rooted device? I would think that they know what's up; everyone with a rooted device doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot.
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NS4G doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot...AND the phone comes unlockable out of the box.
I doubt Sprint cares that much....we are a relatively small minority of their total accounts and we are going to find a way to tether for free regardless of if we get unlocked or not.
Also isn't Sprint the only company that doesn't censor tether apps from the market? I'm pretty sure they also have an official 'non-anti-tether' stance.
...and that's to say nothing of the fact that we pay for our data service and who cares where our bits come from and go to? We pay for the transport of said bits...the contents, origination and destination should really be irrelevant.
Besides, I can saturate my wireless connection with pandora or a couple of downloads on my phone just as easily as I could by hooking it up to a computer.
EDIT: Either way, I don't think they could possibly prevent tethering without throwing multiple monkey wrenches into the works.
When i went to look at the phone the otherday on the 24th my sprint guy that i always deal with said u know they r unlocking the bootloader in 60 days right? An i was like no i thought it would already be unlocked he said he read somewhere 60 days to try an get ppl to stay with it
Now idk if this is true or not by the way this guy didnt know a thing on how to root untill i showed him now he flashes roms like crazy lol
I dont think this has been posted, But here is the latest on the HTC Bootloader unlock
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/03/htc-explains-official-bootloader-unlock-process-asks-you-to-sig/
Yeah that sucks, but what did you really expect? HTC can't be expected to support unlocked phones bc ppl can really screw up their phones if they don't know what they're doing. HTC is only protecting themselves and this was absolutely expected IMHO. Good news article though regardless.
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D... Get in the third dimension!
Thanks for the info, didn't catch that. Please keep in mind next time that this may be an official development for information on the official bootloader unlock, but that does not make it development, this technically belongs in general.
No your right, it wasnt posted in DEVELOPMENT, it IS however posted in GENERAL (where it belongs!)
Hmmm.... Lets see here.
1. Root Phone w/ out HTC.
2. Do whatever you want.
3. Have hardware error and need warranty repair.
4. Back to stock we go!
5. ????
6. Profit!
Umad HTC?
had a feeling that was going to happen but not to sound hard on you this is the development section this should be placed in general section just a heads up
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No your right, it wasnt posted in DEVELOPMENT, it IS however posted in GENERAL (where it belongs!)
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Wow, it got moved really fast! Lol
So what would that do to Sprint insurance if you root with HTC? Does that mean you might as well cancel it or will Sprint still replace?
Do you think HTC knows we already have these devices unlocked. Lol
Although sucks if this is where Androids future is going.
I'm glad that some companys have listened to the community. We asked for them to give us unlocked bootloaders t and they are ACTUALLY delivering. Of course it voids the warranty I'm not suprised at all. Stops *****ing bout it cuz they could've NOT unlocked them and than everything would be the same. Change is good in my opinion.
TANSTAAFL
Makes good sense to me - Archos says the same (or similar) and it hasn't stopped people.
Maybe it'll clear out the riffraff.
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TANSTAAFL
Makes good sense to me - Archos says the same (or similar) and it hasn't stopped people.
Maybe it'll clear out the riffraff.
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Definitely will. We'll have less people coming over to this forum and whining at us because we won't hold their hand through the entire rooting process (although there has been enough of that already anyways), and more time for expansion ROM cooking.
And +1 to easily being able to fool anyone into thinking our warranty isn't void.
Lets be honest here, anyone on this forum would never use the MFW anyways, we are all here for one reason and one reason only. To get the most out of our phones and exploit their capabilities. You technically void your warranty with any other root anyways, so what's the difference? We are all taking a risk at doing anything with our phones in the first place. I can't say I blame HTC for taking their stand. They will give you the unlock, but you have to be willing to put your feet in the water too.
I just think it's funny. During the flame wars there were multiple people saying "htc would not release something that voids warranty."
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I saw this posted yesterday, but ever since I started rooting phones with my Hero a year and a half ago I always knew it technically voided the warranty. It is easy to switch back to stock and I have never had them even check when I returned a phone in the past.
Glad that they are going to release it. Not suprised that it voids the warranty. No different than putting mods on your car.....
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Lets be honest here, anyone on this forum would never use the MFW anyways, we are all here for one reason and one reason only. To get the most out of our phones and exploit their capabilities. You technically void your warranty with any other root anyways, so what's the difference? We are all taking a risk at doing anything with our phones in the first place. I can't say I blame HTC for taking their stand. They will give you the unlock, but you have to be willing to put your feet in the water too.
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This is exactly why it was in HTCs best interest to release the unlocked bootloader before we got perm-root.
To bad...they fail.
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Isn't that what RUU's are for?! I haven't had any problems at all returning previously rooted phones to Sprint, even after bricking my GF's Optimus S trying to get it back to stock, they took it back and gave us a new one. If you don't know how to revert to stock, you shouldn't be messing with root in the first place.
Just my opinion..
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Well...I think It's cool they are unlocking the bl ..even though at this point It's futile and the people who know what they are doing already have Their phone unlocked..I'm not gonna give them much credit though..they should not have locked it down in the first place..It's like someone punching you in the face and then giving them credit or appreciation when they apologize
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It's like someone punching you in the face and then giving them credit or appreciation when they apologize
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This made me LOL.
+1 to RUU to stock... Funny story, when I traded in my Hero at Best Buy, the guy saw my CM7 Gingerbread ROM and was like, "Sweet, didn't know you could put gingerbread on this thing." He never even batted an eye that it was rooted.
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I'm losing faith in the quality of HTC's dependability. They even drop your warranty if you transfer your evo to another line on your account. That's retarded because you're still the user of the device.
Is anyone else thinking that they might hold off on rooting there Evo lte? I mean, amazing camera, beats audio, screen shots, the latest sense, and ics? What extra purpose would rooting do? It has me thinking i might hold off on rooting my evo when i get it, but was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts?
Yeah, the stock experience will be great, but I'll be needing root to remove bloat. Just seeing one sprint app on my phone makes me want to kill a squirrel or something...
rooting doesnt necessarily mean going straight to aosp. especially right at the beginning there will be root + stock to remove bloat while keeping all the Sense perks. I know im gonna be flashing a stock rom
i'll be rooting not only to remove apps i don't want; but also to tether.
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Is anyone else thinking that they might hold off on rooting there Evo lte? I mean, amazing camera, beats audio, screen shots, the latest sense, and ics? What extra purpose would rooting do? It has me thinking i might hold off on rooting my evo when i get it, but was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts?
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Totally agree on that however I do see one large benefit to rooting... Battery life. That's what drove me to rooting in the first place. I would love a new kernel, SetCPU, and a stock-like ROM that had no bloatware.
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Totally agree on that however I do see one large benefit to rooting... Battery life. That's what drove me to rooting in the first place. I would love a new kernel, SetCPU, and a stock-like ROM that had no bloatware.
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Never really thought of the extras, I rooted my evo on the first day i got it to sense 3.0, never really been on stock longer than a day, i forgot you had to pay for tethering. lol, the only sprint app i keep is sprint zone to check my usage and upgrade even though i have unlimited. So i guess i will be rooting. I guess im gonna use my early upgrade, the galaxy iii kinda looks cheaply built.
In order of importance WiFi tether, landscape rosie, custom kernel (I got ideas), restore angry bird scores, and restore my lake navigation app (no longer in market)
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While on the subject, i can restore apps n data to that app to the evo lte when the time comes
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The stock experience will be awesome, but the devs here always find a way to make the phone better in every way.
Root: Android unlimited
Was just reading a thread in one X forum pointing out how HTC is now essentially using the dev unlock 'may' void your warranty to avoid doing any repairs to unlocked phones. Even HW repairs, pretty shady. It doesn't matter so much in the US, as we generally handle issues thru service providers, but I thought it was an informative read about HTCs policies moving forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
scottspa74 said:
Was just reading a thread in one X forum pointing out how HTC is now essentially using the dev unlock 'may' void your warranty to avoid doing any repairs to unlocked phones. Even HW repairs, pretty shady. It doesn't matter so much in the US, as we generally handle issues thru service providers, but I thought it was an informative read about HTCs policies moving forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
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Wasn't this an AT&T only thing? That they are making HTC lock the bootloader and not allowing dev unlock?
Part right. Yra. AT&T is forcing HTC to make unavailable HTCdev unlock. The point of that thread is that HTC realized that if they allow for bootloader unlock they can ignore any warrantee claim of any unlocked or relocked phone, even if issue is busted power button or screen. Read the thread. You'll see what I mean.
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Does anyone here know if the HTC EVO LTE for sprint will be rootable, or will it at least work with HTCDev? Thanks.
Any answer to that question will be a complete guess. That will not be answerable until the phone comes out.
It can be assumed that ALL android phones are rootable. Some just take more work then others. Other then that, we won't know anything until it exists.
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Any answer to that question will be a complete guess. That will not be answerable until the phone comes out.
It can be assumed that ALL android phones are rootable. Some just take more work then others. Other then that, we won't know anything until it exists.
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Yeah, I figured that would be my answer, but I just curious if anyone had some insight from somewhere. But I just decided that I'm going to preorder the phone and cross my finger that some root will come out for the phone. Currently it appears to be the best phone on the market or coming out for the next few months, including the galaxy SIII phone.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Agreed, can't wait for the release.
I need to get some more money, so im not clearing out my bank account and not have any money for food!! Very tough choice here, I have the order page ready to be filled out!! Just hoping someone comes to me tonight with some money, never know! Can only hope.
I'll ROOT in order to try to move my saved games from my Epic over to the new phone.
Gotta tether. Need the root
Sent from my Transformer
Thanks VZ!
Grow a pair HTC..
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Meaning, the 'all other devices' no longer works, since as was pointed out, it was never technically on the official list to begin with.
no fkidding?
need to verify before I cancel my pending pre-order.
I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
I'll likely cancel my pre-order too. This makes me sad, I was so exited about this device.
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I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
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That method no longer works.
Should have been more clear.
We're already working on something.
Pleas don't get your undies in a bunch just yet.
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I can live with stock for a while... Just got mine today... a day early... But I can't play with it until I'm done work... If unrEVOked is working on it I have faith...
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This dont scarw me. I'm getting one. You got some of the best devs working on this.
As stated above, I am also totally willing to live with stock for a while. The great devs around here haven't let us down yet and I doubt they will now.:good:
God I hope so, I'm just picturing another OneX situation..
I figured this would happen sooner than later which is why I was going to pick one up tomorrow morning, but the night before is BS.
This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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and yet, VZ still wants us to bend over.
That's why I don't say any thing about HTCDev website. Once Verizon hears a device can be unlocked, its game over.
Pardon my complete ignorance. I've only had one HTC device before (Spouses TBolt), but I rooted it when I first got it and rooting instructions went live on XDA. What's the likelihood of rooting the DNA without having the HTCDev site unlocking it. Again, sorry if this is an elementary question.....
I am getting this phone tomorrow and give my S3 to the spouse, but I remember the wait before that phone was rooted, and it was agonizing. A Perm Root method came out literally on the 14th day, my last day to return it, so I got lucky. Do you think this will stunt development for this phone? I love using different, power-sipping kernels on to my devices.....
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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You do realize that a quality ROM will probably not be out for weeks. Not quite sure what you are looking to do the very first day with your bootloader / root. I am willing to wait a couple of weeks as I am sure the devs will figure it out.
I'm am so pissed, but this kind of thing happens every year when I upgrade. I'm still getting mine tomorrow, and just praying S-Off won't take as long to achieve like it did for the Rezound. Fingers Crossed
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Is anyone actually surprised by this? By most accounts, this was entirely expected given what has happened with some previous Verizon HTC devices. Like the Incredible 4G, which could be unlocked via the site before it was officially released, but once the release date actually rolled around, it no longer worked.
I prefer to have root just for wifi tether and titanium backup. Just so much easier to restore apps with it then to try and use each app's backup/restore process.
I'm not looking until Feb anyways, but definitely disappointing.
This seems like a deal breaker to me. I was all hyped up about this but not so much anymore.