[Q] New to Android - Q about rooting Galaxy tab and other issues - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I just bought myself a new galaxy tab 10.1 (i believe the p7510 model). Basically its the one thinner than the ipad. I'm switching over from an ipad and after getting lazy with that tablet, I'm kind of struggling with a few things.
First, i dislike the touchwiz UI, so that is the main reason for rooting. First I had a couple of general questions.
-I found this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
As i understand it i have to install the CWM rom. But it seems all the cwm roms listed for the wifi verson say they have touchwiz on it. Also, the ohter ones are starburst, bonsai, etc. What is the difference? what do i go with? What I'm looking for basically is to replace my current rom with the official google rom so i basically have a google experience tablet like those given out at IO. Also to clarify, does STOCK rom mean the rom from sansung that came with the tablet?
- If i somehow succeed in doing this rom update, how do i update my tablet once an update is out? will google basically push updates to my tab, so i can download them over wifi when i check for updates. or do i have to download a new rom and go through this process every time an update comes out.
- Once i do this rom unroot thing, i will hvae android marketplace? are there any issues generally with rom replacement?
- Lastly a general question about the android marketplace: Is there any way to differentiate tablet apps from normal apps when im browsing the store?
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if this isnt the right forum, could someone let me know where to post this.

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[Q] New to S2/Android... coming from WebOS

Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).

[Q]flash "Normal" Android

I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
Dashu2 said:
I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
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Yes you have to root to get 3.2 honeycomb. Right now some developers are developing vanilla 3.2 ROM for Gtab 10.1. And each time an update is released for honeycomb we have to wait for the developers to update their ROM, so that we can flash the ROM.
Another thing is that honey comb wont be seeing much updates as IceCream sandwich is just about to be released.
If you want to get updates directly from Google then you have to buy a Google Experience Device. but right now there is no pure google experience tablet (AFAIK).
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
dc10555 said:
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
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Yes. You can install any non-touchwiz ROM in the dev section(Blazer is the only one i guess) or use the 3.1 stock ROM

New to the tablet world and got a rooting question

I am a long time android user and rooted every phone I have had. In this case I am a little stumped. I just won a Galaxy Tab 10.1 Wifi and was wondering which rooting method to use.
Which roms will work for the wifi model.
Model Number is GT-P7510
Thanks in advance!
Rooting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074802&highlight=rooting+a+sgt+10+1
CWM 4.0.0.4 use Odin 1.35 to install
Task13.1 Slim ROM (Task10 if you want full)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
b00sted Themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349862
My personal choice, but go to Dev Forum, download and check them all out. If you don't use the camera, try out an ICS ROM.
Just a tip, make sure you use the search before you post anything. A lot of issues have been answered and you will get flamed if you don't

Info on Stock ROM

Been trying to find the most recent Stock Rom for the Galaxy tab 10.1.
Had rooted mine and tried a few Custom ROMS which three kept rebooting and the 4th one by TASK (latest one) was great then kept slowing down to the point apps just crash. Did a restore to my backup that I did right after applying root, and didnt keep any of the original stock roms apps like task manager and weather widget.
Not thrilled about how when you save a ROM it doesnt save the apps too, or at least when you put another ROM on it removes the other apps. Either way.
Looking for the download for Stock Rom.
*Note, I will root the Tab again, is there a way to install stock ROM and still keep root so I dont have to do it all over again?
There are LOADS of stock roms, my friend. Take a look over the forum.
Or samfirmware.com
Can hardly help you more since you provide no info at all on what model you have;
7500, 7510.. wifi or 3G.. country.. languages you need...
Okay... So can anyone else provide me a link for a wifi only version, forum perusing in this massive site will be a huge pain.
realism51 said:
Okay... So can anyone else provide me a link for a wifi only version, forum perusing in this massive site will be a huge pain.
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Read through the UNROOTING PROCESS section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474971

[Q] Updated to 4.2 with slimbean and now have lost all my apps and nothing works

Hello everyone, i have a new Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300 on virgin, i took the plunge and rooted it, all went well and fairly easy too, so i decided i wanted to update from 4.1.2 to the 4.2.2 update, i found what i thought was a suitable download and using odin i upgraded, however now all is bad, i have an os called slim bean or Nova or something, nearly all the apps have gone, i cannot get access to google store or the internet at all, it now tells me i am on tmobile and a few of the apps that are on there stop working when you click on them, the web and apps like this just do nothing, i tried to import my previous set up which was GO but the system tells me No supported launchers to import from, i cannot even add my google account. does anyone have any idea what i have done and how to rectify it, i really am regretting ever touching it, ive tried to ownload the stock rom but the only place you can get it from is a site called hot file which pretty much will not work unless i feed it money, thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. ATB
you should have read the guides/FAQ before rooting , if you did not do it, and if you did, read it again.
There are instructions of how going back to stock, how to root another ROM, what you have to be careful of etc.
In addition SlimBean & Nova are completely different things, SlimBean is a ROM and Nova a launcher (if you are talking about the launcher)
Sounds like to flashed the wrong ROM for your phone. Usually a good place for stock ROMs is sammobile.com or here on XDA the ROM threads in the General section.

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