[Q] Verizon Update on rooted phone, now bricked. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Help.
I have a rooted Thunderbolt and I have been able to reject the update from Verizon until this afternoon when my phone started to update on its own. The update didn't go through and I got an error icon. Now my phone just goes through the same cycle of turning it self off and trying to update and crashing.
I am able to get to the Clockwork Mod recovery page but the only option that works is the 'reboot system now', which starts the phone and the whole cycle of trying to update is started.
Does anyone have an idea of how to get my phone working again?
Thanks in advance.
Mike

I'm really sorry to hear that happened, I'm not sure what you can do. Hopefully someone will be able to help you out. But at least I can tell you that you are not alone! I wasn't rooted, but my phone did autoupdate on its own at about 2:30pm today.
I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234844

Pull your SDcard, wipe the pg05img.zip file, and try again. You might have to reflash clockwork.
This is the problem with running rooted stock ROMs. I know flashing a new ROM isn't what a noob wants to do, but it will avoid these very confusing headaches.

whats if you rooted using revolutionary? As far as i know there wont be that pg05img.zip file to delete.
Would you always be in danger is this if you are rooted and stay stock?

Why would someone want to root their phone and stay stock ??????
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt

loonatik78 said:
This is the problem with running rooted stock ROMs
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Nope. One only has to keep up with the current releases, rooted versions of which come out within days of official release.

Are you sure it is the Verizon update?
I have the same behavior on my T-bolt since about 10 pst today. However, just before the phone shuts down to reboot, I see a note about a new version of Clockworkmod Recovery 4.0.1.5.
So I have been working on the assumption that it is CWM Recovery that is doing an automatic update.
I also am running rooted stock, and have not updated to latest release.
OK, it isn't the update to CWM Recovery that is the problem; it is the Verizon OTA update, which they have figured out how to force on us. I fixed my phone using the solution given by Mike later in this thread.

jbh00jh said:
Why would someone want to root their phone and stay stock ??????
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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Debloating. Stock is pretty damn nice without all the extra crap.

*Madmoose* said:
Debloating. Stock is pretty damn nice without all the extra crap.
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This, plus "root while you can" - there's no guarantee that rooting will be possible with each subsequent (unrooted) release, but you can root now and stay rooted to keep your options open. Also, getting full backups of everything is easier when rooted.

Did the fix work?
Mike, did you try what loonatik suggested? Did it work? Waiting breathlessly...

Unless I am misunderstanding the problem wiping cache from Clockwork recovery should clear out the update and it will quit trying to install it. For the future if you go to settings in the about phone or software update section (dont remeber which) there is an option to de-select scheduled update checks.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

Wait.. what? Most ROMs I've seen are debloated.. At the very least they have VZW crap removed

Thanks guys for all your help and interest. I tried the solution offered by lunatic but it did not work. Thanks any way I was still looping through continuous on and off cycle. I did however did find a solution on another site. Here is the solution from Sele.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/forum/htc-thundebolt-hacking-guides/2257-rs-guide-how-get-rid-ota-forced-reboots-rooted-phone.html
It was easier fix than I thought it would be. Step #1 worked.
I also did this to stop the update from happening again.
"If you are rooted use root explorer or super manager and set system to R/W. Then navigate to /system/etc/security. Find the file named otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak and reboot. Should fix you up."
I'm sorry I can't remember who offered this solution to give credit to. I haven't had any updates yet but only time will tell.
Good Luck with your phone.

JBO1018 said:
Unless I am misunderstanding the problem wiping cache from Clockwork recovery should clear out the update and it will quit trying to install it. For the future if you go to settings in the about phone or software update section (dont remeber which) there is an option to de-select scheduled update checks.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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Yes you are correct wiping the cache fixed the problem.

mjkusa said:
Thanks guys for all your help and interest. I tried the solution offered by lunatic but it did not work. Thanks any way I was still looping through continuous on and off cycle. I did however did find a solution on another site. Here is the solution from Sele.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/forum/htc-thundebolt-hacking-guides/2257-rs-guide-how-get-rid-ota-forced-reboots-rooted-phone.html
It was easier fix than I thought it would be. Step #1 worked.
I also did this to stop the update from happening again.
"If you are rooted use root explorer or super manager and set system to R/W. Then navigate to /system/etc/security. Find the file named otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak and reboot. Should fix you up."
I'm sorry I can't remember who offered this solution to give credit to. I haven't had any updates yet but only time will tell.
Good Luck with your phone.
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Definitely a handy resource.. Every time a new OTA comes out, this is a very frequently asked question.
I suppose you could always use an RUU too

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Nope. One only has to keep up with the current releases, rooted versions of which come out within days of official release.
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Based on how many of these threads I see, that clearly isn't what's being done.

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ROOT, Recovery and Update < LOOK here FIRST

This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...Please read ALL directions and comments carefully...as no one is responsible for any damage to your phone.
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE UNROOTED AND ALREADY UPDATED WITH OTA, YOU CAN STILL USE THE PROCESSES BELOW TO ROOT AND FLASH RECOVERY.
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 3: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you want to stop the OTA update notification, use this file which provides simple edits...but be careful as it may make further updates more difficult >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
UPDATED:
OTA Update with Root and Busybox >> DH12 to DI01 update with root and busybox
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
My path.
1) Stock with root mentioned in this dev section
2)restored CW backup
3)used CW to install the update mentioned in this thread.
No problems so far.
After reading this thread again I went to stock and stock kernel. Rooted and gold again.
I think that CPU Scale app causes the Fascinate to shut down, so if you use it and getting them.... remove the app or let me know if you fixed.
Thanks!!!
Now, here is something I didn't try yet. I am still stock (not rooted), ran the OTA...and with all people having issues, I am scared to root. I want to try but I think I will wait and see if anyone else does this.
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This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you don't care about root and want to install the OTA update manually >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
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I thought the post about doing the OTA manually would allow you to keep root, seeing that it's a stripped down version.
Let me clarify that. If that's the case, I can update the OP.
Restored, updated and Rerooted
All is well. No problems so far.
Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Thanks for heads up...first post updated.
Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Thanks! I just reported it too to request for sticky.
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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I don't think the update blocks root. you should be able to install the OTA as long as your not rooted, then once it is installed go ahead and root your device.
Ok...looks like root went thru...working on cwm recovery now.
OK, recovery installed successfully...running a backup right now.
Should I test restoring? Or should I assume I am safe?
Rooting after OTA update.
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
lukaro said:
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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If you have CWM installed, you always have root via adb, which means you can get your root apps working.
If you're not running CWM, I don't know. Someone who's tried rage.bin post-update could tell you.
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Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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Yes you can root after update, I did it fine, but had to attempt it twice, the first try it hung, so had to do a battery pull, and then the second time it worked fine.
Nothing in the update seems worth it to return to stock (I've removed so many stock apps already.)
I'm having the Force Close loop issue. My CWR seems to be missing, as all I can access is Android system recovery <2e> with the options of:
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Using the Odin method didn't work for me, on multiple tries. My SD card appears to be wiped clean and I can't enter debug mode.
Is there anything short of a miracle that I can do to fix my phone? I've seen a few posts with people saying they had similar problems as mine, but there was never and explanation of how or if they fixed there phone.
Thanks in advance

[Q] Rejecting verizon update

Ok, so apparently you cant just click reject on the verizon update and expect it to never come again. Every single day, sometimes twice per day they try and push their stupid update to my phone. Is there anyway to permanently disable OS updates? Getting tired of this.
If you are rooted use root explorer or super manager and set system to R/W. Then navigate to /system/etc/security. Find the file named otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak and reboot. Should fix you up.
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Not rooted, there is no other way?
Sure. You root your phone and follow the steps in post 2.
Just messing with you. Looks likes there's no other way.
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Sorry to bump an old post, but FYI this worked. For anyone who might be wanting to do the same without adding custom roms. Root process took a little while but EasyRoot eventually nailed it.
Actually, this did NOT work. Verizon is still trying to update my phone! And I hear doing an OTA update after root can seriously mess stuff up. I renamed the file, rebooted, twice even, and I still catch my phone auto-downloading this goddamn update without even asking for permission anymore!!!!!
Do I have to just flash a new rom or something to finally get rid of this trash? I really like the stock rom without the bloat. I de-bloated it myself since all of the debloat links for other roms are dead and the authors refuse to allow mirroring so they can make money on their links. :thumbsup:
Yea, just have to bite the bullet and flash a new rom. I had the same issue with my Galaxy Tab when I went back to stock, except it wouldn't apply the update, just reboot and pester me again. Of course you know the benefits and pitfalls of rooting, might i suggest trying a clean 2.3 rom with Sense 3.0? You will practically have a new device.
Also, of you never had a Vanilla device try pur3a05p. They have a great offering.
Cast by the Odinson's mighty Mjolnir!

[Q] OTA update and big green x

I have a rooted Amaze with just some bloatware removed. Yesterday I received a notification in the status bar that a system update was available. When I try to run the update the phone reboots and then freezes with a big green X on the screen. Doesn't look like something official. Has anyone seen this before or know what it's about? I'm thinking maybe it's just failing to run the update because of being rooted or a related issue but can't find any info on Google about the green X.
I finally pulled the battery out because it wouldn't respond and then turned the phone on again. It booted fine and I still have the notice about the update. I'm reluctant to try again until I find out what's going on. Thanks.
I don't think you're able to install an update through a custom recovery..There should be a ROM with that update already in it.
If you have a Custom ROM you can't take the update that is intended for stock unrooted ROMS.
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Thanks for the feedback. I don't have a custom rom - just the stock minus some bloat. I can see how the custom recovery, however, might interfere.
I can't find any info on the update and what it includes or why I might want/need it but assuming it would be good to install then is there an easy way to remove the custom recovery? Would running the stock update.zip do this or do I need to go through the full un-root process?
If you have CWM recovery already,
1. Go to /downloads folder inside the internal Storage. You can find the OTA.
2. Rename it to "update.zip" and copy to External SD.
3. Reboot the device to recovery.
4. Select update.zip and update manually.
5. After update & reboot, delete both original files to get rid of notification.
Thanks for the directions. Tried and got this error
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verifying current system...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/FriendStream.odex", "some very long hex number", "some other long hex number")
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip
(stage 7)
Installation aborted.
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Thanks for the directions. Tried and got this error
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verifying current system...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/FriendStream.odex", "some very long hex number", "some other long hex number")
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip
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Installation aborted.
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Seems its not possible as you have removed some programs
Think you removed friendstream also.
It seems to work only if the ROM is unmodded
skr_xd said:
Seems its not possible as you have removed some programs
Think you removed friendstream also.
It seems to work only if the ROM is unmodded
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Yes, I removed facebook and friendstream. Not sure why those would be necessary to run a system update but you may be right about not being able to update a modified phone. Maybe the update isn't anything I need anyway if it wants to update an app I don't want.
Thanks for the help.
In case anyone has a similar issue, here is what I've figured out.
The update won't run on a modified system - even if it's a stock, but changed, rom. In the interest of exploration, I restored my backup using clockwork and then ran the update. It still didn't work, but following skr_xd's advice above I was able to run the update manually. The result was a more or less stock phone without root but with the most current software. I then re-rooted the phone and re-removed all the bloat with no apparent ill effects.
Thanks for the help.
Btw, I didn't know what the green X was all about, but I think it's related to clockwork mod. Could be wrong though.
droidux said:
In case anyone has a similar issue, here is what I've figured out.
The update won't run on a modified system - even if it's a stock, but changed, rom. In the interest of exploration, I restored my backup using clockwork and then ran the update. It still didn't work, but following skr_xd's advice above I was able to run the update manually. The result was a more or less stock phone without root but with the most current software. I then re-rooted the phone and re-removed all the bloat with no apparent ill effects.
Thanks for the help.
Btw, I didn't know what the green X was all about, but I think it's related to clockwork mod. Could be wrong though.
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yes its the custom clockworkmod i made
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yes its the custom clockworkmod i made
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Thanks for the confirmation and awesome software. I noticed there is work on version 5.0.2.7. Assuming it would be wise to update once released.
Same issue here. I have stock rom without any bloatware removal.
I just unlocked the bootloader than installed CWM and rooted the phone.
when I try to update phone OTA it stucks in splash screen (With Big Green X logo)
Flash prerooted rom you good to go
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I just spent abut 4 hours trying t figure this out...
This is my journey..
Relock bootloader
Flash one of the stock tmobile ruby rom in development section
Did the OTA update on stock
Unlocked my bootloader again
Then i tried to root using one click zerg method but it didnt work
So i flashed clockwork mod using fast boot
Then applied a su binary update i found in the development section.
In less than a minute i got root back.
Then i restored my data from nandroid backup.
My phone is pretty much rooted, bootloader unlocked, bloatware free alongside having the ota update that enabled wifi calling installed.
You don't need to relock your phone to do the update. If you do xboarder's recover to stock method just skip the relock part you can update your phone. So far going back to stock is the only way to get the radio updated as well which I am noticing way better 4g coverage than before!
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You don't need to relock your phone to do the update. If you do xboarder's recover to stock method just skip the relock part you can update your phone. So far going back to stock is the only way to get the radio updated as well which I am noticing way better 4g coverage than before!
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working on a way maybe this weekend will have it ready
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working on a way maybe this weekend will have it ready
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NICE! Dude you must never sleep! Always the first to get something done!
I figured out what to do. You just need to rename this update file to update.zip. then reboot in recovery and choose install update from sd card. Next navigate to download folder and install update.zip file. You will be updated and stay rooted at the same time.
This worked for you because you didn't remove any of the t-mobile bloatware from your phone.. This will not work for people who messed with the pre-installed bloatware.
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This worked for you because you didn't remove any of the t-mobile bloatware from your phone.. This will not work for people who messed with the pre-installed bloatware.
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Maybe, but 8m I've got another problem after updating this way. Wifi doesn't work anymore. I receive an error while trying to switch on wifi.

[Q] How do I permenantly reject OTA?

Apologies up front... I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseum, but my searches can't turn up the answer I'm looking for.
I'm not ready to grab the new update, kernel, or radios. I'm running perfectly the way I want with Nils GingerSense 1.5 (GB).
The first OTA nag, I was able to reject. This morning, the OTA downloaded (found the OTAPkg.zip in /cache/fumo), but I was only able to defer several days, no reject option.
Question: Is there anything I can do to prevent future Verizon OTA attempts and forget about this until I'M ready to move forward?
I used to have fotakill.apk in my cm7 rom for the incredible . Maybe you can download any cm7 rom and extract that file. Might work?
I believe you can just delete otacerts.zip from /system/security and it shouldn't prompt you. I think that's what some people did on the Inc to block it before. Some also modified their build.prop, but I'm not sure what the line was, or what to change it to now.
I'm not to be held liable if anything goes wrong after modifying any of these things. Make a backup first!
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I believe you can just delete otacerts.zip from /system/security and it shouldn't prompt you. I think that's what some people did on the Inc to block it before. Some also modified their build.prop, but I'm not sure what the line was, or what to change it to now.
I'm not to be held liable if anything goes wrong after modifying any of these things. Make a backup first!
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I see a otacerts.zip in /etc/security , so I'll try renaming that, thanks.
Well, about an hour after I renamed /etc/security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak, another OTA download has begone, so that's not going to do the trick. I've restored the file, and the download is continuing. I'm deferring again, not sure what to try next.
Resigned
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Well, about an hour after I renamed /etc/security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak, another OTA download has begone, so that's not going to do the trick. I've restored the file, and the download is continuing. I'm deferring again, not sure what to try next.
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You will have to stare at this thing to be ready ... it snuck the OTA at me when I wasn't looking, and I only realized it when the phone vibrated as it leaped into recovery and started flashing the OTA. Never asked my permission, and I never gave it.
I simply deleted every apk in the /system/app folder that said either Verizon or VZW.... I have not gotten any prompts about the OTA and it definitely has not installed or attempted to.
htcdm showed up as "hogging data" in one of my data trackign apps when i got my update message, hope that helps.
Would be nice to reject this OTA.
It don't even ask before trying to apply it!
I'm suprised that people on custom roms are getting the update attempt. Usually on a custom ROM, that kills the OTA updates. This is usually only a problem on those that are on a stock rooted type rom.
Very weird
I'm at a loss. I don't know whether to accept the update or not. I think with the Mainver fix, I can always go back...right?
My thinking is the update might patch a leak that might help us get S-Off. If I'm way off base, please let me know, because ignorance is bliss.
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You will have to stare at this thing to be ready ... it snuck the OTA at me when I wasn't looking, and I only realized it when the phone vibrated as it leaped into recovery and started flashing the OTA. Never asked my permission, and I never gave it.
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I'm just stock ICS rooted, only did it for removing bloat and using tethering. Now my phone tries to do this update automatically too and it just reboots into twrp and sits there... One of these days it will do it overnight and i'll miss my alarm!! Pisses me off. ha
brettokok said:
I'm just stock ICS rooted, only did it for removing bloat and using tethering. Now my phone tries to do this update automatically too and it just reboots into twrp and sits there... One of these days it will do it overnight and i'll miss my alarm!! Pisses me off. ha
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I registered just to reply to this. I took did a stock ICS root to get rid of bloat. Last night, it attempted to do an install at 2 AM est, got to recovery and hung. I rebooted it and went to sleep. 7:30 AM, my back-up alarm goes off, I look over at my phone, and it's stuck in recovery again, they tried to push another update while I was sleeping, and I missed my early alarm.
This is unacceptable. I need to find out how to permanently reject this blasted thing.
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I registered just to reply to this. I took did a stock ICS root to get rid of bloat. Last night, it attempted to do an install at 2 AM est, got to recovery and hung. I rebooted it and went to sleep. 7:30 AM, my back-up alarm goes off, I look over at my phone, and it's stuck in recovery again, they tried to push another update while I was sleeping, and I missed my early alarm.
This is unacceptable. I need to find out how to permanently reject this blasted thing.
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Yeah, happens to me once or twice a day, and if you don't notice it as it happens, it ends up just rebooted sitting in twrp. So I don't get calls or texts or alarms.
Anyone out there have any idea how to block the OTA's? Or can anyone answer if the following is possible.... I have never used titanium backup for actually doing any backups. I have just used it for removing stupid verizon apps. Could I do a backup of setting/apps and then flash the newest stock ICS ruu or whatever, re-use the root tool, and then restore my stuff from my backup?
Googled it and it was the first result...
http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...s-ota-update-very-easy-but-requires-root.html
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Squirrel1620 said:
Googled it and it was the first result...
http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...s-ota-update-very-easy-but-requires-root.html
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About 8 posts back someone said that didn't work for their rezound. I tried it regardless. Had tried renaming that file with astro file explorer and i didn't have permission so I bought root explorer and it let me do it. We'll see if it keeps doing it to me like it did to the above poster...
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About 8 posts back someone said that didn't work for their rezound. I tried it regardless. Had tried renaming that file with astro file explorer and i didn't have permission so I bought root explorer and it let me do it. We'll see if it keeps doing it to me like it did to the above poster...
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I used titanium backup pro and froze the updater.apk so far so good. all day and no popups. I am Stock and Root.
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I used titanium backup pro and froze the updater.apk so far so good. all day and no popups. I am Stock and Root.
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I'm stock and rooted.
Last night, I froze the updater app in Titanium Backup. I rebooted for good measure. This morning I woke up to my phone booted in recovery.
I rejected the update and booted back up. So this is still an issue...
Just chiming in that I'm also affected, but havne'tthat on Sunday this push broke my GB image, so bad that I had to RUU it to ICS. Now I've been finding my phone at TWRP every morning with an OTA.zip failing to flash.
Additionally, I got a message that offered me to defer my update and I chose 3/10 at 7pm. But it still tried overnight.
Use tibu to freeze the ota updater package.
Or flash a custom recovery like amon ra for rezound. Or even a custom rom, say simplistic if you want to stay on an ics/sense based rom
To get the ota, one must have: a relatively unmodified stock rom (key system apps can't be frozen or missing) and the stock recovery tool. If you change either of those, you won't get prompted to do the OTA.
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AndroidGraphix said:
I'm at a loss. I don't know whether to accept the update or not. I think with the Mainver fix, I can always go back...right?
My thinking is the update might patch a leak that might help us get S-Off. If I'm way off base, please let me know, because ignorance is bliss.
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If you're s-on, you can't rewind the firmware on your phone. The mainver fix is just to get certain roms installed.
While it's possible they could patch the current s-off method, I doubt they care much at this point. Verizon has depleted their stock of replacement rezounds and HTC has moved onto new devices.
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[Q] Unrooting issues? (screw up while previous unrooting?)

Greetings,
I know the easy answer to this is going to be to flash a new rom, but if I wanted to do that I would have already. I'd rather find and repair the source of the issue and learn from it.
That being said, shortly after getting my tbolt (when they were first released) I used the revolutionary root and added in VPN software for work. Being unaware that OTA updates hadn't been blocked during the rooting, the phone took an update and went into a death-boot-loop. I found a clean updated OTA rom, flashed and unrooted the phone as the VPN software didn't work well for what I intended anyway.
Great, now the phone is all back to stock (or so I thought).. After a while, another OTA update came down, it asked to update, I allowed, and it said update failed.. Repeat ad nauseum for the next several weeks. Since I was happy with the way the phone was operating, I didn't care if it got the updates or not.
So last week, I decided that since the phone is out of warranty anyway, I might as well root and get rid of some of the bloat, and while I'm at it, get rid of the damn nag screen every tine I hook it to a computer. Searched around, found thunderbolt tool 1.0.1, downed it and tried it out, and it proceeded to say unable to lock my phone.
After a little screwing around, the "update status" on the phone itself reports ROM Version: 2.11.605.9, while the tool was getting a response of 2.11.605.5, so it was using the wrong method to get into the phone. So I edited the batch file to use the .9 method no matter what it reported back, and it proceeded to root, add the recovery, and superuser.
Ahhh, life is good, the phone is rooted again, time to start doing my own customization.
Except that after a couple reboots, everything loses the root rights.
Running titanium backup says "asking for root rights" and then "titanium has been granted superuser permissions" but it just hangs there at the "asking for root rights" screen.
Wireless tether similar story... Start the app and it says "press to start tethering" and touching the screen gets "wireless tethering has been granted superuser permissions", then hangs at "please wait while starting".
Won't do anything that requires root, unless I run the tool again and select "S-off but no root", and it will go through a procedure and root will work again for a while.
Also, as I'm typing this, I discovered that it doesn't necessarily require rebooting to lose root. I had root working last night, but when I picked up the phone to get the proper messages to type, it is not showing root again, and it hasn't been rebooted since root was working.
Thoughts on how to repair this without flashing a rom?
Have you attempted to run the "fix permissions" option in your recovery?
If that does not help, You could use something like OTA RootKeeper to protect root, if you loose it you would just click one button to get it back.
Last thing I can think of is to just reflash the same ROM you are using now on top of what you have so you loose no data and any messed up settings or files will be rewrote.
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You should really think about installing a custom ROM, because until you do, or you block OTA updates, this will be a reoccurring issue.
You could easily install a stock rooted ROM of the exact same thing you have now. nothing would change except it would be properly rooted and OTA updates would be blocked.
That is because only temp root is applied to the official 605.19 Ruu. You need to downgrade back to 605.5 after getting temp root on the 605.19 Ruu then apply the perm root zip in recovery and then flash a newer rom from recovery. If that doesn't work don't lose hope. I may be misunderstanding the situation you have but it sounds like you're only applying temp root. The tool doesn't need to be edited and you may need to flash the 605.19 stock Ruu, relock and s on and then run the tool again.
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Milimbar said:
Have you attempted to run the "fix permissions" option in your recovery?
If that does not help, You could use something like -edit- to protect root, if you loose it you would just click one button to get it back.
Last thing I can think of is to just reflash the same ROM you are using now on top of what you have so you loose no data and any messed up settings or files will be rewrote.
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You should really think about installing a custom ROM, because until you do, or you block OTA updates, this will be a reoccurring issue.
You could easily install a stock rooted ROM of the exact same thing you have now. nothing would change except it would be properly rooted and OTA updates would be blocked.
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Haven't seen the fix permissions option anywhere I've been, care to point me in the right direction?
I'll check out the rootkeeper.
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That is because only temp root is applied to the official 605.19 Ruu. You need to downgrade back to 605.5 after getting temp root on the 605.19 Ruu then apply the perm root zip in recovery and then flash a newer rom from recovery. If that doesn't work don't lose hope. I may be misunderstanding the situation you have but it sounds like you're only applying temp root. The tool doesn't need to be edited and you may need to flash the 605.19 stock Ruu, relock and s on and then run the tool again.
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Never took the .19 update, and both the tool and phone report as .05 now. (if I remember correctly the .09 reverts back to .05 to get in)
damm315er said:
Haven't seen the fix permissions option anywhere I've been, care to point me in the right direction?
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What recovery are you using?
I only use 4ext and would recommend that.
The fix permissions will take up to 5 min and may not help your particular issue, but shouldn't hurt to try.
If 4ext - Boot into recovery, select tools then select fix permissions.
If CWM I think its in the advanced menu.
and If TWRP I think it is in the advanced menu again.
Good luck and listen to the others here, they go out of their way to help people a lot
Ok earlier I misread your post. I thought it said 605.19. Still though something you're doing is causing you to only get temp root. Reread the op of the allinone tool and make sure you meet the requirements before you start it. That away when you run it this time you are in the best possible situation for it to work. Trter is very helpful and if you post your issue in his thread he will probably assist you with anything you need.
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I remember having a similar problem about 6-7 months ago.
I would randomly loose root, though not as often as he is describing.
In my case it was a combination of an outdated root method and a flawed ROM.
If everything he is using is current, including the ROM, he shouldn't have an issue.
If it were me I would flash Santod's stock deodexed ROM and be done with it.
It is the stock ROM with nothing changed except it is prerooted.
I understand that you would like to "fix" this issue without flashing a ROM, however the ROM itself could be the problem. this solution is the simplest I can think of.
Using everything from the thunderbolt toolkit, so yes, 4ext.
Found and ran the fix permissions, ran for 15 minutes before it finished so we'll see how it goes.
I get what you're saying about the rom being screwed up, and am starting to think my only choice is to reflash it, so I'll start looking into a new rom.. That being said I'm still pursuing fixing this until I find a rom that serves my purpose.
Is there a good stable ICS for thunderbolt, pre-loaded with root and good battery life?
Yea the one in the post above yours. If you want something a that is faster and has better battery than it then head over to infectedrom.com and check out all the different options santod has made.
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