ADB Not Detecting Root - HTC EVO 3D

Hello,
When I run adb shell, it reports back with a "$,"even though I do have root. I'm running JoeyKrim Stock With Root ROM. Odexed...
I do have superuser installed with the latest binary, and latest official busybox. Terminal emulator even detects that I have root.
Basically everything works as it should, except adb. Anybody know what's going on?

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Rydah805 said:
Hello,
When I run adb shell, it reports back with a "$,"even though I do have root. I'm running JoeyKrim Stock With Root ROM. Odexed...
I do have superuser installed with the latest binary, and latest official busybox. Terminal emulator even detects that I have root.
Basically everything works as it should, except adb. Anybody know what's going on?
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When you type adb shell, does it immediately report back with a $, or does it pause for a few and then report back with a $? If it pauses for a few seconds, look down at your phone during that time. You may be being prompted with the super user request prompt, where you need to hit allow. I'm not sure why you need to do this sometimes, but I've had it happen before. If you don't look at the phone and hit 'allow', then it times out and doesn't give you root access. So type 'adb shell', check out your phone and see if your prompted, if so allow it, and you should be good. If that is not the case, then I'm unsure what could be causing it.

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k2buckley said:
When you type adb shell, does it immediately report back with a $, or does it pause for a few and then report back with a $? If it pauses for a few seconds, look down at your phone during that time. You may be being prompted with the super user request prompt, where you need to hit allow. I'm not sure why you need to do this sometimes, but I've had it happen before. If you don't look at the phone and hit 'allow', then it times out and doesn't give you root access. So type 'adb shell', check out your phone and see if your prompted, if so allow it, and you should be good. If that is not the case, then I'm unsure what could be causing it.
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Thanks, I'll test that out. I have a pin set on superuser. Maybe that's the issue.

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Just checked, and it does it right away, and does not prompt... Sigh...

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Rydah805 said:
Just checked, and it does it right away, and does not prompt... Sigh...
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Very strange. I'm not sure. Has it happened on all roms, or just the one you're currently on?
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Rydah805 said:
Just checked, and it does it right away, and does not prompt... Sigh...
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The first time you type su from adb shell, Superuser will display a prompt on the screen to accept or deny the request. If you don't accept the request, in adb shell it will display, "Permission denied".
On the Superuser prompt, if you select deny, when typing su in adb shell the result will always be "Permission denied" until going into the Superuser app and changing "Unknown" to Allow. Not sure why the Superuser app labels adb shell as "Unknown".
Another option, inside the Superuser app, on the Settings tab, at the very bottom there is an option, update su binary. Sometimes using this update feature will resolve permission/installation issues with the su binary.
If you wanted to verify the installation of both Superuser and root as having been done properly, my free app Root Check from the market works well. Advanced Mode should provide all the details we'd need to troubleshoot further.
Hope that helps and appreciate your support!

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joeykrim said:
The first time you type su from adb shell, Superuser will display a prompt on the screen to accept or deny the request. If you don't accept the request, in adb shell it will display, "Permission denied".
On the Superuser prompt, if you select deny, when typing su in adb shell the result will always be "Permission denied" until going into the Superuser app and changing "Unknown" to Allow. Not sure why the Superuser app labels adb shell as "Unknown".
Another option, inside the Superuser app, on the Settings tab, at the very bottom there is an option, update su binary. Sometimes using this update feature will resolve permission/installation issues with the su binary.
If you wanted to verify the installation of both Superuser and root as having been done properly, my free app Root Check from the market works well. Advanced Mode should provide all the details we'd need to troubleshoot further.
Hope that helps and appreciate your support!
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Yep that does work on his rom the "type su" thing and thanks for your root check app Joey it's been super useful in trying to figure out stuff lately on the photon.... really appreciate all your contributions

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joeykrim said:
The first time you type su from adb shell, Superuser will display a prompt on the screen to accept or deny the request. If you don't accept the request, in adb shell it will display, "Permission denied".
On the Superuser prompt, if you select deny, when typing su in adb shell the result will always be "Permission denied" until going into the Superuser app and changing "Unknown" to Allow. Not sure why the Superuser app labels adb shell as "Unknown".
Hope that helps and appreciate your support!
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Got it! Thanks! Any idea why I had to do that with your rom though? On others, I didn't need to type Su and grant it. (Doesn't bother me though.)

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Rydah805 said:
Got it! Thanks! Any idea why I had to do that with your rom though? On others, I didn't need to type Su and grant it. (Doesn't bother me though.)
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Short answer: Since Superuser.apk is another developer's software, I didn't include it in my ROM as I didn't have his permission. I provide the superuser apk market link in my ROM OP for users. Instead of packaging Superuser apk, I used the su binary provided in AOSP as its source code is public and publically available for android usage.
Long answer: There is a free version of Superuser available thru the market and figured that would be the best way to load the Superuser apk. From personal experience as an android developer, when an app is provided with a ROM, it doesn't appear in the developer's market statistics and essentially is "off the radar". Which makes it more difficult to track which devices have loaded the software, which versions of android, etc and makes it more difficult to prioritize software upgrades to the application.
Hope I was able to explain and it helps!

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joeykrim said:
Short answer: Since Superuser.apk is another developer's software, I didn't include it in my ROM as I didn't have his permission. I provide the superuser apk market link in my ROM OP for users. Instead of packaging Superuser apk, I used the su binary provided in AOSP as its source code is public and publically available for android usage.
Long answer: There is a free version of Superuser available thru the market and figured that would be the best way to load the Superuser apk. From personal experience as an android developer, when an app is provided with a ROM, it doesn't appear in the developer's market statistics and essentially is "off the radar". Which makes it more difficult to track which devices have loaded the software, which versions of android, etc and makes it more difficult to prioritize software upgrades to the application.
Hope I was able to explain and it helps!
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Gotcha, I'm not complaining, just wondering why. I've always loved your roms over any others. Any way I can easily set it to use the superuser app binary over aosp binary?

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ADB starting with root depends on the ro.secure property; if you type "getprop ro.secure" it should show either 0 meaning ADB keeps root or 1 meaning you have to use su for root. Just about all custom kernels/ROMs use unsecured boot.imgs but you can always change it yourself by modifying the default.prop file packed in the boot.img.
This is also what people are referring to when they say the kernel/boot.img/rom is secured or unsecured.

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Rydah805 said:
Got it! Thanks! Any idea why I had to do that with your rom though? On others, I didn't need to type Su and grant it. (Doesn't bother me though.)
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xHausx said:
ADB starting with root depends on the ro.secure property; if you type "getprop ro.secure" it should show either 0 meaning ADB keeps root or 1 meaning you have to use su for root. Just about all custom kernels/ROMs use unsecured boot.imgs but you can always change it yourself by modifying the default.prop file packed in the boot.img.
This is also what people are referring to when they say the kernel/boot.img/rom is secured or unsecured.
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Rydah805 said:
Gotcha, I'm not complaining, just wondering why. I've always loved your roms over any others. Any way I can easily set it to use the superuser app binary over aosp binary?
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Ah! Your question in the first quote above could be intrepreted two different ways. I provided one answer for one intrepretation and Haus provided the other answer for a different intrepretation!
I'll try and bring both together. There are two primary ways to access the shell interface on an android device.
1) Via adb shell. When typing adb shell and it opens the connection to the device, by android standard, it drops you to a shell with non root access reflected with the $ prompt. As Haus articulated above, this can be modified in the /default.prop file inside the ramdisk of the boot.img file. There are two options, have adb shell drop to root access or have adb shell drop to non root access. Many custom kernels modify this option so the user drops to root access.
In my kernel I'm using a non-modified stock kernel so it drops to non root access. I prefer to have to type su, once in the shell, to elevate to root access. Mainly because most functions I perform in adb shell I don't want root access for.
2) Via terminal emulator/connectbot. When accessing the shell directly on the device thru one of the common android applications, these generally open up a standard "sh" or non root shell. Then by typing "su" the user can elevate to root access (if the device has the su binary, etc.).
There are two main options for how to handle the "su" command inside a shell on the android device.
1) Superuser.apk - this application provides its own su binary, which hooks into the android application. Whenever su is called, the Superuser application is therefore called and allows the user to accept/deny root access requests.
2) su binary - from aosp or busybox. this is a version of the su binary more common to android developers in aosp, or the busybox version is more common to a generic linux version. the aosp version of su will grant any user/application root access. the busybox version will grant any user/application root access but does rely on an /etc/passwd and /etc/group file for permissions.
To answer your previous question, why you haven't had to type su on other custom ROMs, as Haus explained, they probably modified adb shell access in the /defult.prop file to automatically elevate adb shell to root priviledges.
To answer your last question regarding Superuser.apk and aosp su. Once you install the Superuser.apk file and it properly installs its own version of the su binary, it has now overwrite the previous aosp su binary. Superuser will now control all root access requests. Once you grant an application, adb shell, titantium backup, root explorer, or whatever application root access with Superuser, it will not prompt again and will handle every future request with the default action (grant/deny) provided.
Hope the extra details help!

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Thanks, wasn't trying to be a pest. Just curious. The info in this thread is a nice thing to know.