Had the Photon for 29 days, installed the Maintenance Release 5 and continued to have the no audio on calls and random reboot issues. Based on the actions of the phone the last few days that I had it I came to a few conclusions.
When the no audio happened if I hit the mute button the audio would be there and I could hear the call just fine. I noticed that after a no audio call if I attempted to go into call history and click the person who just called and attempted to call the phone would always reboot. This lead me to conclude ( and I would appreciate it if someone who post some thoughts ) that no audio indicates the software has encountered problems and is no longer stable. The actions of the buttons are reversed and the system is on the verge of crashing. Any further action after the call will result in a system reboot. This leads me to believe the OS is prone to not being stable for whatever reason. Why this occurs is unknown.
I noticed that when the phone was flat on my desk, sometimes hooked up to power source, sometimes not, the phone would reboot on it's own. This indicated that even without user intervention the phone OS would become unstable, crash and reboot. What causes this is unknown.
I have since returned the phone to Sprint for a full refund with no restocking fee ( I suspect their technician was able to duplicate the no audio).
While the phone was fast, had a lot of storage space, great reception and great clarity the unstable OS caused me to return it.
Sounds like a hardware problem. I have yet to have a reboot and after the update, I have yet to get a muted call.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
LouieGrandie said:
Had the Photon for 29 days, installed the Maintenance Release 5 and continued to have the no audio on calls and random reboot issues. Based on the actions of the phone the last few days that I had it I came to a few conclusions.
When the no audio happened if I hit the mute button the audio would be there and I could hear the call just fine. I noticed that after a no audio call if I attempted to go into call history and click the person who just called and attempted to call the phone would always reboot. This lead me to conclude ( and I would appreciate it if someone who post some thoughts ) that no audio indicates the software has encountered problems and is no longer stable. The actions of the buttons are reversed and the system is on the verge of crashing. Any further action after the call will result in a system reboot. This leads me to believe the OS is prone to not being stable for whatever reason. Why this occurs is unknown.
I noticed that when the phone was flat on my desk, sometimes hooked up to power source, sometimes not, the phone would reboot on it's own. This indicated that even without user intervention the phone OS would become unstable, crash and reboot. What causes this is unknown.
I have since returned the phone to Sprint for a full refund with no restocking fee ( I suspect their technician was able to duplicate the no audio).
While the phone was fast, had a lot of storage space, great reception and great clarity the unstable OS caused me to return it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the reboot spam last night and the phone is completely face palmed.
Photon 4G, I really wanted to like you, instead you have given me the tross!
My Photon is perfect! No problems after OTA.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
newalker91 said:
There are two problems at hand here, user error and malfunctioning hardware. You should know full well that if you are having issues such as rebooting upon laying the phone down with a charger that something isn't soldered properly in the phone. Swapping it would alleviate this issue. With the final build (CM5) being available in SBF form, along with two very stable and powerful roms, very few people are having any issues of updated properly. It's unfortunate to see another user put this phone down instead of working through the issues, but I guess android isn't for everyone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
User error? Really? Note I said I had the CM5 installed and still had the no audio issues. And since when does having the action of the mute button on a call being reversed happen as a result of something not being soldered properly? Note that the reboot happened when the phone was on the charger and when it was not. When it was laying flat and when I was holding it upright and looking through the contact list. I like Android just fine. Had an Evo for a year but upgraded because it lacked internal storage space. I plan on going to the Galaxy SII in a few weeks and last I read that's an Android phone.
LouieGrandie said:
User error? Really? Note I said I had the CM5 installed and still had the no audio issues. And since when does having the action of the mute button on a call being reversed happen as a result of something not being soldered properly? Note that the reboot happened when the phone was on the charger and when it was not. When it was laying flat and when I was holding it upright and looking through the contact list. I like Android just fine. Had an Evo for a year but upgraded because it lacked internal storage space. I plan on going to the Galaxy SII in a few weeks and last I read that's an Android phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What he means is that you didn't even bother to have sprint replace this phone for you. You settled, thinking it was a software problem. Which any user here would most likely come to the conclusion after reading your post that it wasn't. Random reboots like that would have sent me back directly to the sprint store demanding another phone. Companies make bad batches, and stores get those bad batches. The fact is you just settled for a phone that was working sub par. I have gone through 3 phones, all with different problems, but I don't settle. They give you that 30 days for a reason.
Would you do the same thing had you went to best buy and bought a computer from them that did the same thing? Random reboots, no sound, etc etc....
Mine as well as most others phones on here work perfect, maybe the random force close from an app or something, but I don't get any muted calls, random reboots, and if I did you better bet I wouldn't settle for it.
Good luck to you in Samsung land.
-DJ
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
funny...Ive had no problems before or after the ota...the phone is stable as a rock...call quality is outstanding, no dropped calls like my old EVO..but im not sure the issues is random hardware problems per phone
This is killing me as I real think the photon hardware wise is one the all around best out...
Moto need to get off over their attuned about software... officially unlock the dam phone release the dam Kernel asap and let great independent software talent write and fix bugs for great hardware and so so code
Just do not think Moto puts the time in on thier code that then need too...
The only problem I've had with this phone was no audio a few times. After updating to 45.2.5, that problem has now been resolved. Photon is running like a champ.
Djspinister said:
What he means is that you didn't even bother to have sprint replace this phone for you. You settled, thinking it was a software problem. Which any user here would most likely come to the conclusion after reading your post that it wasn't. Random reboots like that would have sent me back directly to the sprint store demanding another phone. Companies make bad batches, and stores get those bad batches. The fact is you just settled for a phone that was working sub par. I have gone through 3 phones, all with different problems, but I don't settle. They give you that 30 days for a reason.
Would you do the same thing had you went to best buy and bought a computer from them that did the same thing? Random reboots, no sound, etc etc....
Mine as well as most others phones on here work perfect, maybe the random force close from an app or something, but I don't get any muted calls, random reboots, and if I did you better bet I wouldn't settle for it.
Good luck to you in Samsung land.
-DJ
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did get a replacement phone and I experienced the same symptoms on both of them.
I do have information that confirms that Motorola was aware of the reboots and that MR5 was supposed to fix this. I did have MR5 on here.
I had an atrix before having this and put Alien Build 4. I was floored by the battery life and the ROM and device was rock solid.
I have a brick at the moment. This became a brick after rebooting loop similar to not wiping the davlik cache before a boot. It was stock. I was going to unlock and root to see if it helped the battery life.
I had been more excited about this phone than almost any other one. I have been a beta tester of Motorola devices, but I believe this one may have been pushed out the door a little too early.
I am glad people have this working well and I am glad for them. I will still love this phone even though I have experienced issues. It easily could have been a bad batch that is triggered by certain circumstances.
After the update - my silent call issue was 100% fixed. Maybe you need to a do a factory reset? I do that after all major OS updates.
Jeff_in_LA said:
After the update - my silent call issue was 100% fixed. Maybe you need to a do a factory reset? I do that after all major OS updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would be nice to be able to do that. I repeatedly flashed with RSLite/Fastboot more times than a single person on a drunken night in Vegas.
I will continue to apply forced love to my phone. When keeping it real goes wrong...
SnoopDawg said:
That would be nice to be able to do that. I repeatedly flashed with RSLite/Fastboot more times than a single person on a drunken night in Vegas.
I will continue to apply forced love to my phone. When keeping it real goes wrong...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, yea man that is great. Have you gotten your brick fixed? Let me know if you haven't, i'm sure there is a way to get it back. Have yet to brick a device. I would be amazed if you have, especially Android.
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
SnoopDawg said:
That would be nice to be able to do that. I repeatedly flashed with RSLite/Fastboot more times than a single person on a drunken night in Vegas.
I will continue to apply forced love to my phone. When keeping it real goes wrong...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You must have never flashed a galaxy s phone with odin....talk about frustrating lol
Sent from my Motorola Photon 4g
coldblooded79 said:
You must have never flashed a galaxy s phone with odin....talk about frustrating lol
Sent from my Motorola Photon 4g
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never had anything I couldn't recover from ODIN even a partial flash(or even if it reset before it could finish flashing). I rooted both Epic 4G and Droid Charge with Odin. Just flashed a couple of Samsung Moments last week but they didn't require ODIN.
My phone will boot sometimes so it won't even stay booted. Doesn't matter what I do to it.
Djspinister - It will boot but not stay booted, it just reboots. I haven't ever had a bad flash that I couldn't recover from. I have flashed Windows Mobile devices, iOS devices that were eventually jailbroken. I have flashed several times right before going out to eat dinner only to have it fully recovered before the food came out. This just has to be a bad phone. It is a brick phone.
SnoopDawg said:
I never had anything I couldn't recover from ODIN even a partial flash(or even if it reset before it could finish flashing). I rooted both Epic 4G and Droid Charge with Odin. Just flashed a couple of Samsung Moments last week but they didn't require ODIN.
My phone will boot sometimes so it won't even stay booted. Doesn't matter what I do to it.
Djspinister - It will boot but not stay booted, it just reboots. I haven't ever had a bad flash that I couldn't recover from. I have flashed Windows Mobile devices, iOS devices that were eventually jailbroken. I have flashed several times right before going out to eat dinner only to have it fully recovered before the food came out. This just has to be a bad phone. It is a brick phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't hold volume down and get to rsd? fastboot? anything? Even try holding down volume down while putting battery in, I heard someone got away from brick that way...
Djspinister said:
What he means is that you didn't even bother to have sprint replace this phone for you. You settled, thinking it was a software problem.
Good luck to you in Samsung land.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After reading on numerous other sites of people on their 3rd or 4th Photon and still suffering from the same problem I decided not to bother. As for Samsung, before the Evo I had two Samsung products that were absolute rocks for me. Solid with no issues and performed well. Using a Samsung Instinct right now.
My Photon is 100% trouble free. Calls are clear, battery lasts, etc.
Te only real issue is that I do not love the bluish tint on the LCD. Anyone know how to alter the gamma?
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
I upgraded from an EVO on Friday. My new Photon began crashing and doing the no audio on Saturday. I exchanged it at the Sprint store later that day and have had no issues with the second Photon. I really like the Photon much better than the EVO.
Has no one else been told in the Sprint store that you can only exchange once and then you're stuck with the device???? They told me they only allow future exchanges through warranty (i.e., Motorola will ship me a new one...no in-store exchanges).
Is this just wrong information?
Erislover said:
Has no one else been told in the Sprint store that you can only exchange once and then you're stuck with the device???? They told me they only allow future exchanges through warranty (i.e., Motorola will ship me a new one...no in-store exchanges).
Is this just wrong information?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats BS!!!! e-mail me at [email protected] and I will send YOU the e-mail I sent Sprint. Not only did I get my 3rd phone, my bill is cleared until October!!! The girls name and number will be in my e-mail!
Related
Is my fascinate defective? Why does my back button randomly press itself? In fact, it seems like it's doing it as a long press sometimes since pressing the power button takes a random screen shot!
I've posted about this before, but this issue came from EB01. Surely others are experiencing such a thing!
This happened to me on stock DI01. I don't know why, but all of a sudden one day, it started doing those phantom presses. For me it was the back button and menu button. I also had a hard time long-pressing the home button to pull up the recent app list.
I have insurance through Verizon, so I just took it into the store, and they ordered a refurbished replacement for me. I didn't have to turn in my phone until the new one came.
It's a different story if you go directly to Samsung. Through them, you are without your phone for 6 days (2 days shipping there, 2 days repair, and 2 days shipping back), and no temporary phone is provided. I was only going to do that as a last resort, but Verizon actually came through.
The end result is that the new phone is definitely better, and I can tell there's a difference in the button response - not in a bad way, though. It's a more "solid" experience as opposed to the previous phone being more finicky.
I have this same issue as well, and have had it pop up on me well before EB01. It's not all the time, but it happens often enough that it's annoying as hell.
Anyone happen to know of a software based solution? Considering all of the rooting/etc. I've done to my phone, I don't know how feasible it is to get replacement hardware..
Skyh said:
I have this same issue as well, and have had it pop up on me well before EB01. It's not all the time, but it happens often enough that it's annoying as hell.
Anyone happen to know of a software based solution? Considering all of the rooting/etc. I've done to my phone, I don't know how feasible it is to get replacement hardware..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe that if you were to odin back to stock (or any official OTA update) that they wouldn't know you'd ever been rooted.
Superclean 2.4 Voodoo - VA Green
I have the same issue. In fact, it just happened a few minutes ago. Sometimes it only had one phantom press, other times it will go spastic. When the latter happens I have to press the back button to make it stop.
I'm glad I'm not the only with this issue. Looks like I'm calling for a replacement tomorrow.
Sent from my SCH-I500
Joshuaboyzn said:
I believe that if you were to odin back to stock (or any official OTA update) that they wouldn't know you'd ever been rooted.
Superclean 2.4 Voodoo - VA Green
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I did. I was rooted and removed a bunch of the VZW bloat when I first started seeing it. I ended up flashing an Odin package for stock/unrooted DI01 onto the phone to make sure that rooting didn't cause the problem. It still ended up happening on stock. I took it in to Verizon and had them look at it, and they were none the wiser. It's been a couple of months now, and I've heard nothing about my returned phone.
Both the DI01 and DL09 Odin packages should be available in the development forum. Be sure to disable voodoo (if you are using it) before you use Odin.
Domush said:
I have the same issue. In fact, it just happened a few minutes ago. Sometimes it only had one phantom press, other times it will go spastic. When the latter happens I have to press the back button to make it stop.
I'm glad I'm not the only with this issue. Looks like I'm calling for a replacement tomorrow.
Sent from my SCH-I500
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just hate the idea of getting a refurbished phone. I sure hope this is a software issue.
Doesnt verizon insurance go through asurion or something like that
Blue Super Froyo
Verizon should be quite familiar with this problem at this point. This problem ran wild on the OG Moto Droid. I've had family members return their phones and within the first year get replacements per warranty (factory defect).
The problem stems from either using a charger that doesn't have a USB module (aka doesn't require you to plug the USB data cable into a charger brick) or from improperly plugging in your phone (for instance, not putting the phone in a dock completely or having the USB connection slip partially). The unusual changes in voltage kill these smartphones and cause them to almost short-circuit, resulting in the "ghost" phenomenon. Many people have had this problem within the last couple of years and have found this to be the culprit. Just google "Ghost Droid" for more information.
WhiteRocks said:
Doesnt verizon insurance go through asurion or something like that
Blue Super Froyo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon's insurance does go through Asurion. That's not what I did, however. I told Verizon I didn't want to make an Asurion claim (which comes with a $89 deductible). They said I could go through them for the Samsung warranty. They sent me the replacement and then I sent back my phone (like you do when you make an Asurion claim), but there was do deductible or charge for it.
Now, they might have only said this because I have the extra protection through them. I can't guarantee they will do this for everybody.
Zerg The Bear said:
Verizon's insurance does go through Asurion. That's not what I did, however. I told Verizon I didn't want to make an Asurion claim (which comes with a $89 deductible). They said I could go through them for the Samsung warranty. They sent me the replacement and then I sent back my phone (like you do when you make an Asurion claim), but there was do deductible or charge for it.
Now, they might have only said this because I have the extra protection through them. I can't guarantee they will do this for everybody.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your phone comes with a 1 year warranty from Samsung for hardware issues. Assurion picks up if the user damages the phone, like dropping it or water damage.
Update for anyone following this thread..
I got a replacement phone and restored via nandroid, ensuring identical software. The phantom button presses are gone! So, it seems the button presses are indeed a hardware failure, not software related. If you have phantom button presses, get a replacement phone and save yourself some grief.
Cheers
Sent from my SCH-I500
Ugh, I'm getting them too. Really don't feel like getting a fourth refurbished fascinate.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Dammit. I assumed it was software since this only started happening when I switched to froyo. The kernel is buggy and I figured this would go away once the devs bring us ones from proper source.
I guess my days of not safely removing from PC are catching up to me.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
The only thing I've noticed on my phone is my power/sleep button sometimes randomly takes screen shots instead of going to sleep, which I thought I read was the back key sticking, is this similar to what everyone is experiencing with these phantom button presses? Mine isn't backing out of programs or anything?
I've had these phantom button presses on mine on and off since I got the phone. Even before I rooted it. I always assumed it was because the soft keys were dirty/oily and were incorrectly registering touches. Wiping off my phone has always taken care of the problem.
My fascinate has infrequently done this over the last several months. Today, the stupid thing started pressing the back button every few seconds. Rebooted several times. No improvement. Switched kernels. No improvement.
I decided to try to see if this is software or hardware. Rebooted to CWR and left it setting on one of the options. Right now it has been setting for about 10+ min and no random back buttons have been pressed. My thinking is, if this is a hardware bug it should have selected the highlighted option since the back button is used as the select in CWR.
Anyone have any ideas?
I think I might try a clean reload starting from the stock ODIN when I get home.
Phone is rooted and running SC 2.9 Voodoo Kernel, voodoo disabled.
I have this issue really bad ever since upgrading to Gingerbread...
If I use Odin to flash back to the Stock Verizon 2.2 the issue disappears, but if I flash any gingerbread, doesn't matter if its VGB or one of the CM7 nightlies, the phone presses the back and menu button pretty consistently and also if you remove the battery for any reason at all, it loses or forgets a lot of apps that you may have installed (Live Wallpapers for instance) and also takes 3-5 reboots or power down cycles to finally boot up NOT in Safe Mode.
Not sure what the hell is going on, but I may have to just Odin back to Verizon stock 2.2, root it and live with the bloatware
Oh, and this issue is persistent from my original Fascinate to the refurbished replacement that Verizon just sent me. So either they sent me a refurbished phone that has the exact same symptoms or its an issue with Gingerbread and the Fascinate.
Any suggestions?
Anybody? Bueller?
Could my stock Samsung 16gb memory card be causing this? That's the only thing that was carried over from my old phone that had the button press issues to the new refurbished one.
Has anybody made that correlation?
Bump,
Googling about this problem, it seems this is a wide spread problem with Fascinate and few other Samsung phones. No one knows of the real problem nor a fix.
It is unacceptable for Samsung not handle this problem which sounds like it's hardware related for this long.
Any more input guys?
I was about to buy the Samsung Fascinate myself but this sounds like a major problem to me.
This weekend I upgraded to the Photon 4G for $99 at Best Buy (gotta love Labour day weekend offers).
I'm moving from an HTC Evo 4G. The first problem is the worst. Since picking up the Photon 4G I have had to pull the battery 5 times as the phone refuses to wake... With the HTC if I had an issue I could reboot by holding down the power and volume button, but the Photon doesn't seem to have this feature, so I'm forced to remove the back cover and pull the battery...
I don't seem to be able to re-create the issue. Its just happens without notice... Anyone else having this issue? Is their an easier way to coax the phone back to life rather than pulling the battery?
The second issue is the screen. Every single review I have read has said that the screen is a Photon 4G strong point... I'm not convinced... Yes it is bright and vivid, but I seem to have an annoying grey criss cross pattern all over the screen. I'm not sure if its my eye's (the GF says she can see it too) but I was expecting the screen to look better than both my EVO and Xoom... This annoying grey criss cross gauze (especially visible on white backgrounds) is disappointing..
What do others think? Colour gradients also appear to band very easily, rather than being smooth.. I'm not sure if this is a result of compression in pictures tho...
Other than that, I am happy with the phone. Big improvement over the EVO 4G i had befor, just a screen I have to get used too, and this un-responsive issue to fix...
Oh, and having to get used to Motorola's Android button layout and Standard Android icon changes is a little painful at times...
Swap out for new one for wake problem. Turn brightness down to 30 percent and screen is fine. Had all top HTC phones and this beats all.....keep this phone....
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
I get that sometimes, but fail to replicate at the store. Store employees will only recommend to wipe the phone.
The pentiles pixelation is only noticeable when your face is extremely close to screen. Its a cell phone not a tv display lol, stop holding it so close and you'll be fine! Im on my first phone with no issues yet; just to be on the safe side i would swap for a new device.
Pihrana said:
This weekend I upgraded to the Photon 4G for $99 at Best Buy (gotta love Labour day weekend offers).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, the sale has been going on for close to 3 weeks now. Sorry you are having issues, have you tried a factory reset then not install any apps (or not many) for a couple days to see if it was one of them?
An opinion......
I try to avoid the Sprint stores as much as possible. There are some knowledgeable reps out there but it is a small percentage. Most of them don't know much about the devices. Call the Sprint support number first and try troubleshooting with them. In my experience, they are better at going the distance to make the customer happy than the peeps in the stores especially if you keep on them about it.
Sounds like a swap out is needed. Good luck.
Go back to BB and try to swap it out for another one. Had my photon for about 3 weeks now and never had this issue
I have to agree it sounds like a hardware issue and merits a swap. I've had the photon 2 1/2 weeks and have only had to pull the battery once.
Mine has been freezing and needing a battery pull every day. I went through Sprint VIA phone and they sent me to the store. The Technician actually researched it and it is a know software issue that will be fixed when the next OTA software update is released. I went from the silent call issues to my phone turning off/freezing and I don't even know that its not working. Not happy at all right now
I've just got back from Best buy after my phone refused to wake up again for the second time today.... I let them try and get it turned back on again which they couldn't do without pulling the battery... Either way they immediately confirmed they'd swap it out. Until she went to pull one and realised they are all out
My replacement arrives Friday when they get restocked.... Best Buy must have sold loads since Friday because their shelf was piled pretty high when i picked mine up...
So hopefully the new one will work properly, or maybe I'm just plagued until the next OTA...
As to everyone who gave me suggestions about the screen... you were right. Turning down the screen brightness pretty much solved the issue all together and I think I am officially used to it now...
Just wish i could get my EVO 3D ringtone , Alarm and notifications on the Motorola. I grew more attached to them, than I thought
Richcop said:
Mine has been freezing and needing a battery pull every day. I went through Sprint VIA phone and they sent me to the store. The Technician actually researched it and it is a know software issue that will be fixed when the next OTA software update is released. I went from the silent call issues to my phone turning off/freezing and I don't even know that its not working. Not happy at all right now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, I did not think that it could be my SD card causing the issues with the phone freezing up and needing a battery pull to get it back on but the Technician asked me if it was a new card or from another phone. I said It was from two or three phones ago. They said that I should format the card because the files from the older phones can cause problems such as this, after copying my photos over to the computer to be able to put back on the card afterwards of course. They had left my SD card out of the phone. So to test things, I haven't put my SD card back in since two days ago. My phone has not restarted or frozen up once. I will give it some more time and report back, but in the mean time, until there is an OTA fix, if you are using an SD card from another (previous) phone, and your having the freezing/power down/restart issues, you may want to give formatting your SD card or removing it to test if it fixes the problem a shot. Good luck, so far so good.
I've not used an SD card at all since purchasing my Photon. On the Plus side, it has not stopped working at all so far today
Had the same problem when I bought my 2nd photon this time at best buy becuase of the $99 deal.
On the 1st one i got directly from a sprint corp store, no issues at all. But this one on the 1st day I got a reboot issue. second day got the SOD. went in they had some trouble getting it on. Had to tell them to take the batt out and it went on. My problem was that they had none available. so for 3 days I waited.
Funny thig is that I wasn't getting the SOD again. Just didn't want to chance it so got another one, yesterday. Happy today.
There were no motorola photon availble in my area. So they are selling.
Good luck with yours.
OK it's not the sd card causing the issues. It's back to freezing up 1-9 times per day and then I need to do a battery pull and restart the phone. Motorola wants the phone back to repair it. This should be a great Two weeks and if the phone is not fixed, I will lose it........ For sure
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
Richcop said:
OK it's not the sd card causing the issues. It's back to freezing up 1-9 times per day and then I need to do a battery pull and restart the phone. Motorola wants the phone back to repair it. This should be a great Two weeks and if the phone is not fixed, I will lose it........ For sure
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not had any problems with mine ever, just works perfect out the box
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
Ok, if this information is correct from Sprint, I know why I am having all these problems with mine freezing up and after having done several hard resets and many calls to Sprint and a visit to the service center with no fix. Apparently there was a batch of Photons that got shipped with corrupt firmware. When the phone uses that portion of the firmware, as a safe mode, it freezes. There is no fix other than replacement with a non effected phone. They ordered me a new one, that I will get on Tuesday. The only way they can correct it until there is an OTA patch is to send it back to Motorola. Wish me luck with this one
Update....
So here is the update....
5 Days of Ownership - A total of 9 shutdowns of the phone with the only way to get it turned back on again was by pulling the battery. On the 9th time, I went directly to Best Buy to show them. They agreed without question to replace it. Unfortunately they had sold out so I had to wait 2 more days for the next shipment. Gotta say Best Buy were excellent tho. I had 1 further shutdown before getting my brand new replacement.
3 Days of brand new replacement Photon 4G ownership - I am disappointed to say that I have had 1 shutdown so far and this was on the second day. Not sure if I want to Jinx myself but the shutdown rate is lower in the first 3 days than it was with my original.
But it's looking more and more like it's a bug in software than hardware. Either that or I get the DUD from two completely separate batches of phones.
Pihrana said:
So here is the update....
5 Days of Ownership - A total of 9 shutdowns of the phone with the only way to get it turned back on again was by pulling the battery. On the 9th time, I went directly to Best Buy to show them. They agreed without question to replace it. Unfortunately they had sold out so I had to wait 2 more days for the next shipment. Gotta say Best Buy were excellent tho. I had 1 further shutdown before getting my brand new replacement.
3 Days of brand new replacement Photon 4G ownership - I am disappointed to say that I have had 1 shutdown so far and this was on the second day. Not sure if I want to Jinx myself but the shutdown rate is lower in the first 3 days than it was with my original.
But it's looking more and more like it's a bug in software than hardware. Either that or I get the DUD from two completely separate batches of phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I got my brand new replacement yesterday at the Milton Massachusetts Sprint Repair Center and as of yet no shut-down, or freeze-ups. I have my fingers crossed here on this one. If not I will be reprogramming another new one soon. They did assure me that this is not affecting every Photon, but there was a large batch released with this corrupt firmware. Its like a waiting game to see if its a dud or not. I do love this phone, and I am getting tired of setting up these phones over and over again, but on a good note, I can completely customize my phone and all my apps in about thirty minutes from activation
Evening XDA,
I personally use an HTC EVO Shift, but my whole family has recently become an Android family.
My mom has this Photon.
But we have had problems with it since day 1. First, it was having the issue of mute calls (she couldn't hear them, they couldn't here here)
I told her about the fix that was here on XDA but she went back and replaced it instead.
By the time we got the replacement, her call problem was gone.
On this second Photon, there were updates for the PRL, Profile, and Motorale Software. So I updated all of those.
Now the Photon randomly reboots itself, and when it does, it gets stuck on the splash screen, specifically the word "Now" and the only way I can fix it is to do a battery pull.
Anyone else have this problem too and what can I do to fix it? It is her first Android phone and I don't want it to be a bad experience.
Thanks.
Yes a few people have experience the reboot problem after updating; mine rebooted about 4 times then never did it again. I don't know of a fix but if a battery pull doesn't correct it then i would exchange it. The issue could possibly be hardware related ...
If the phone isnt going past the "now screen" then something went terribly wrong with the updating process and id suggest dropping by sprint.
As for the mute issue my phone muted because i had an airave; sometimes i unplug it when it really bothers me.
The random reboots was an issue the OTA should have fixed. If it didn't, take it back to sprint, and let them know. They will either have a tech look at it or give you a new phone.
xTMFxOffshore said:
The random reboots was an issue the OTA should have fixed. If it didn't, take it back to sprint, and let them know. They will either have a tech look at it or give you a new phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Weird. The problem she had at first was the mute calls. The OTA fixed that but then caused these reboots/freezes.
She bought it at Sam's Club. So she'll have to go there or Sprint, or both?
Thanks for the advice guys.
doratheconquistadora said:
Weird. The problem she had at first was the mute calls. The OTA fixed that but then caused these reboots/freezes.
She bought it at Sam's Club. So she'll have to go there or Sprint, or both?
Thanks for the advice guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If shes under 30 days id just get a new one from sams club they shouldn't give her an issue.
kennypowders said:
If shes under 30 days id just get a new one from sams club they shouldn't give her an issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh I know. This is her second Photon already. Replacing it again will make it her third.
Kinda sucks that she can't fully rely on it. :/
doratheconquistadora said:
Oh I know. This is her second Photon already. Replacing it again will make it her third.
Kinda sucks that she can't fully rely on it. :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sometimes it just happens, i went through 4 evo 3D's before i decided to get the photon.
Ok, so I just took her phone and gave a prompt to Restart Now or Restart Later.
I restarted now, it had the open box with the Android next to it, and a yellow progress bar, it rebooted, and actually started up properly telling me it successfully updated the software.
Maybe it was failing to reboot for the update?
Hopefully this fixes the problem.
So this has been happening randomly on calls for about two weeks now. I'm still on Stock everything and would like to know if this is a known problem, if something is wrong with my phone, or if there is a fix? I'm past the point of returning and getting a new one and plus, I have grown atattched to this phone LOL.
I've tried hitting speaker and then turning it off but that doesn't work. Tried ticking mute and then unticking it, not working either. Reboot doesn't work. Resetting back to stock doesn't change it either.
Thanks to all.
AJ
Sounds like a typical ATT phone call. Would you and the person on the other end both happen to be on speaker phone? I cannot have a call via speaker to my wife if she is on speaker (which see insists on using) - there is too much voxing going on, I only hear every couple of syllables.
T
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
Not a speaker phone call. Seems like it happens mostly when I make calls from speed dial from my homepage screen. I can't conf
irm that last bit though lol.
Another question is this....I just turned my phone completely off and it had 42 % battery. When I turned it back on it now has 22% left.....what in the world is going on lol???
Would I be better off reverting back to 2.3.4? Or just getti
ng another sgs2?
asjdwf said:
Would I be better off reverting back to 2.3.4? Or just getti
ng another sgs2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I need more details to say this for sure, but I THINK you may be having the same issue I had. Not many people seem to have this issue (only seen a handful across a variety of forums). So if you happen to be a fellow sufferer, then welcome to the club!
My problem was:
After the 2.3.6 update (UCKK6), the person on the other line had trouble hearing me because my voice cut in and out frequently, yet randomly. On my end though, they came in nice and clear. I often had to deal with people hanging up on me because they thought my call dropped or that I hung up, or had to deal with a lot of people repeating "hello? hello!? You there!?" as I helplessly tried responding and not being heard.
My Solution(s):
1) keep the 2.3.6 update, but flash just the 2.3.4 (UCKH7) modem. Everything on your phone will work fine, but you will get the following FALSE warnings (FALSE as in the phone says it can't do something, yet everything works fine anyways. These are only based on first-hand experience and may not happen to you.)
a) upon boot (not wake/unlock) there will be an error notification about you not being able to access your external memory card due to security reasons... don't worry, its bull.
b) when using your phone as a mass media storage device, you will get a notification about the mass storage function not being able to work... this message is also bull.
2) Or you can just completely return to 2.3.4 (UCKH7) and either ignore the update prompts or freeze the process until a newer update that hopefully fixes our problem (or ICS) is released.
I did (1) for about 2 weeks then did (2) after reading all the battery complaints blamed on UCKK6. It reverted just to play it safe with battery life (plus they say that "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" and for me, UCKH7 wasn't broken and the update definitely broke it).
Wow, that sounds identical to me except its they can hear me but I can't hear them LOL. I reverted last night with odin one click downloader and the stock kernel for battery life so we will see what's going to happen today. Is this a phone problem physically or is it software?
Thanks
AJ
For me, its a software issue (modem to be specific) because it only happens on UCKK6 (and the leaked UCKJ1, UCKJ2, and UCKJ4) and when on UCKH7, my calls are as clear as a LAN line.
I say that if the problem still exists now, then its hardware. In that case, try contacting Samsung for a replacement if your ATT warranty is up. You could try ATT too because its a defective phone and they may still do something.
I'm hoping you guys can help. Been a long time lurker here and am going to be buying my Note 2 at the end of the month. But my wife purchased one the day after Christmas, and since the new ota update in January, her N2 has been freezing a lot. Sometimes you can get it to turn back on, but than it freezes and reboots on its own. Most of the time she has to do a battery pull to get it to come back on. It happens about 5 times a day.
Verizon had her factory reset it, but it still has the persistent problem. Best Buy took a look at it and they couldn't figure it out. She is hoping we can figure it out before we have to send it back in, which would suck because she would be without a phone that she needs for work for a week. Not to mention Best Buy and Verizon stated that if it does need to be replaced, that it would be with a refurbished one. Which I am not at all too happy about that. Hoping you guys can help me out.
Gunny223 said:
I'm hoping you guys can help. Been a long time lurker here and am going to be buying my Note 2 at the end of the month. But my wife purchased one the day after Christmas, and since the new ota update in January, her N2 has been freezing a lot. Sometimes you can get it to turn back on, but than it freezes and reboots on its own. Most of the time she has to do a battery pull to get it to come back on. It happens about 5 times a day.
Verizon had her factory reset it, but it still has the persistent problem. Best Buy took a look at it and they couldn't figure it out. She is hoping we can figure it out before we have to send it back in, which would suck because she would be without a phone that she needs for work for a week. Not to mention Best Buy and Verizon stated that if it does need to be replaced, that it would be with a refurbished one. Which I am not at all too happy about that. Hoping you guys can help me out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm thinking it's an app she has installed most likely also power saving modes not on is it? Tell her to root it and all her troubles will go away
shawnx1 said:
I'm thinking it's an app she has installed most likely. Tell her to root it and all her troubles will go away
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried to get her to root, but this is her first android device, she's had nothing but the Iphones prior and is nervous about doing stuff like that. It started after the last ota update, and the only recent app she downloaded was Unblock Me. Since then all this has been happening, and we already uninstalled Unblock Me suspecting that was the culprit. I have it on my phone with no problems.
yes, she does have power saving mode on
Gunny223 said:
yes, she does have power saving mode on
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
turn it off and see if it helps. that strange behavior is most likely caused by an app. Can you screen shot or list what apps she has on her phone?
Yeah I'm thinking it's power saving mode turn it off see if she can make it through a day without it freezing. You don't need power saving on a note 2 battery life is great without it unless your wife is like most females and always forgets to charge her phones
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Here's the list of apps she has downloaded. She hasn't downloaded anything recently except for that Unblock Me and the ota update. She said since yesterday Verizon had her factory reset the phone. She reinstalled all her apps, and it still kept freezing. When in froze this afternoon and it shut down(didn't reboot), she took it strait to Best Buy to have them look at it.
The guy fiddled with it, and it was freezing and rebooting on him as he was messing with settings. He told her it probably needed to be sent in. She doesn't want a refurbished phone if they replace this one, so we are trying to figure it out. But since that visit, the phone has not froze on her. Weird.
Should we uninstall all the apps and install one by one each day to see which may be causing it?
Did you turn power saving off and it still freezing?
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
when I checked it, it was already off. I know she had it on, but don't know if the BB guy turned it off or if it was turned off by the factory reset.
If it's still freezing with power save off then I would factory reset it then install the apps that she must have for day to day use. Then give it a day and install the other apps she wants.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
shawnx1 said:
If it's still freezing with power save off then I would factory reset it then install the apps that she must have for day to day use. Then give it a day and install the other apps she wants.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. Factory reset is your last option other than rooting (and flashing a custom OS) or sending it in.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
ChaoticWeaponry said:
This. Factory reset is your last option other than rooting (and flashing a custom OS) or sending it in.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree. :good:
Phones normally only freeze when the ram runs out. Is there any app misbehaving and sucking up all the ram?
I had some what i thought were random reboots the first few months with my N2. These I discovered were caused by carry the N2 in my back pocket of my jeans! Every time I bent down to pick something up or to tie my laces it would reboot!! I would just hear the start up noise comming from my pocket. Make sure she doesn't put it in her skinny-jeans back pocket.
Thanks for the suggestions guys! It froze again this morning, so we are going to factory reset and install apps one by one each day to see who the culprit is. Hopefully its an app doing this.
I have been experiencing EXACTLY that and hqve tried most of the remedies. However this only seems to happen at work which makes it somewhat difficult to actuwlly sot down and diagnose the problem.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
I have been reading about this issue from a lot of people with the s3 & note 2 on forums. I honestly think Samsung/Verizon sent out a bad OTA due to rushing to close the security loopholes. I refused the ota and found a way to permanently defer the update and have not experienced any reboots or freezing.
From my previous/recent experience Verizon will absolutely not help you at all, they are worthless 99% of the time. All they are able to do is tell you to factory reset it(if they know how) and have no actual clue how to fix the devices. They will even 'call' the software support for you but will still tell you to either factory reset or do a return. I am disgruntled after they destroyed 3 phones (Droid Incredible) in my family after pushing out horribly bugged OTAs that left the devices useless. I confronted them and they flat out refused to take ownership of their own software that they pushed out. I still feel like they should be sued over what happened.
Good Luck!
ohiwastedmylife said:
I have been reading about this issue from a lot of people with the s3 & note 2 on forums. I honestly think Samsung/Verizon sent out a bad OTA due to rushing to close the security loopholes. I refused the ota and found a way to permanently defer the update and have not experienced any reboots or freezing.
From my previous/recent experience Verizon will absolutely not help you at all, they are worthless 99% of the time. All they are able to do is tell you to factory reset it(if they know how) and have no actual clue how to fix the devices. They will even 'call' the software support for you but will still tell you to either factory reset or do a return. I am disgruntled after they destroyed 3 phones (Droid Incredible) in my family after pushing out horribly bugged OTAs that left the devices useless. I confronted them and they flat out refused to take ownership of their own software that they pushed out. I still feel like they should be sued over what happened.
Good Luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah leave it to VZW to fix one thing and introduce a worst bug. I had a Motorola bionic that kept losing signal every 20 minutes or so then version sent out an update damn phone would drop signal every 30 seconds or not even connect to data. Basically rendering the phone useless. Worst part was Motorola had the bootloader locked down so tight there was no good development. At least we have good development for our note 2
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
shawnx1 said:
Yeah leave it to VZW to fix one thing and introduce a worst bug. I had a Motorola bionic that kept losing signal every 20 minutes or so then version sent out an update damn phone would drop signal every 30 seconds or not even connect to data. Basically rendering the phone useless. Worst part was Motorola had the bootloader locked down so tight there was no good development. At least we have good development for our note 2
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Users should legitimately have a lawsuit case against Verizon. They are essentially forcing you to purchase a new device because of something they did. When I confronted them they straight up told me to buy a new device. Devices should work indefinitely theoretically and they are causing irreparable damage.
My note 2 was having major battery drain issues so I got my self back to pure stock like day 1 and I went ahead and updated with the ota so I will see if the random freezing / reboots pick up or not. I already noticed a keyboard bug where it pulls up a numerical only keyboard and wont allow me to type letters unless I reboot.
Did anyone solve this? I'm in the UK and very recently got my ota update. Since then I've been getting multiple daily resets and freezes. Can't say whether it's due to the ota update or some software I've been using, but the crashes are certainly pretty new and very annoying.
nemof said:
Did anyone solve this? I'm in the UK and very recently got my ota update. Since then I've been getting multiple daily resets and freezes. Can't say whether it's due to the ota update or some software I've been using, but the crashes are certainly pretty new and very annoying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same issue with mine on vodafone in Uk. I havent loaded any apps since ota update and keeps freezing. Had service centre reflash two days ago and it is still freezing etc.
Convinced now its the update.
Anyone know how to reflash to 4.1.1