I currently have tenfar's CWM installed.
I looked at the PiCrust thread where it says specifically that I need Romracer's Recovery (and not to use CWM from rom manager).
That made me wonder why does different ROMs require different recoveries ?
Also, what might happen if I use my CWM to flash PiCrust ? soft brick? hard brick?
Well they probably all would work, Tanfars has been reported in having problems clear caches, and the rom manager does not support external sd cards (at least last I looked at it, which was some time ago) so Romracers is pretty much the best to use on an Atrix right now. put if pushed I bet all would work OK in a pinch.
I would not worry about bricking your phone if you used the wrong version, it would just not work most likely and do nothing to your phone.
Thanks !
your explanation of the differences between the versions helped me to understand this issue - its a matter of features and bugs and not something different in the "core" functionality of the recovery.
I will probably update to romracer - as soon as I understand how
If I created a backup with one version will it resoter on the other ?
It also depends on when the rom was first posted. The older roms require Tenfars Pretty much all recently posted roms require RomRacer's recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
lilhaiti said:
It also depends on when the rom was first posted. The older roms require Tenfars Pretty much all recently posted roms require RomRacer's recovery.
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^^^This is the reason why ^^^ Older ROM OPs are dated, and the devs are not updating install instructions.
rusreid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
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That's right it does!
Some roms require ext4 support.
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hmmm
well i dont understand it either. i have succesfully been able to flash every single rom on this forum with the same cwm "Atrix 3.2" i believe its called.
so i am sticking to this cwm just because it works great and have nice colors.
and if i for some reason need to flash gingerblur 4.5 or something old i will just do it with the old recovery which came as an installable apk, before the bootloader got unlocked.
rusreid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
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I have seen that - but PiCrust writes :
"Do NOT use CWM installed from ROM Manager!"
and in noob section it is explained how to install romracer version using rom manager.
since I already have tenfar's cwm - I can just do a zip install through tenfars cwm which will replace cwm to romracer's version, right ?
akalithium said:
I have seen that - but PiCrust writes :
"Do NOT use CWM installed from ROM Manager!"
and in noob section it is explained how to install romracer version using rom manager.
since I already have tenfar's cwm - I can just do a zip install through tenfars cwm which will replace cwm to romracer's version, right ?
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Yes, you should be able to flash RomRacers version via Tenfars CWM. Make sure you don't have the .sh file first, which you would need to delete.
As far as the ROM Manger thing goes... in the N00B guide, I just explain how to install RomRacers CWM via ROM Manager... so yes, your installing ROM Manager, but if you follow the steps, your actually using RomRacers version through ROM Manager (and not the actual ROM Manager version) as a end result.
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That's the romracer recovery which has been the most current but I have read that Rom Manager's CWM has been updated to 5.xxx so I would like to know if anyone has ventured into those waters???
papand7 said:
well i dont understand it either. i have succesfully been able to flash every single rom on this forum with the same cwm "Atrix 3.2" i believe its called.
so i am sticking to this cwm just because it works great and have nice colors.
and if i for some reason need to flash gingerblur 4.5 or something old i will just do it with the old recovery which came as an installable apk, before the bootloader got unlocked.
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Actually I don't think any rom requires any recovery if you understand how to do it on your own Just saying.
Actually the "do not use ROM Manager's CWM" instruction is dated, the latest CWM that ROM Manager will install for you works completely fine, has ext4 support and will let you install both from SDCard and internal storage.
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I've been using AmonRA recovery since I got the Optimus in December and I am comfortable with it. I've tried out Miks port of CM7 and while it's great, i sorely miss the battery performance I was getting on Froyo with Void and running 824mhz stable without any problems. That and bluetooth is sorely missed. I want to give OpenOptimus a shot, but I am extremely weary of trying to install Clockwork Mod again, because the one time I attempted it I ended up bricking my phone. Thankfully, the guy at the Tmo kiosk in the mall just gave me a new one no questions asked. I wouldn't be so hesitant to install CWM on my phone if I could install the img just like I did with AmonRA instead of trusting Rom manager to do it for me.
I don't suggest you to flash recovery via ROM manager. IMHO ClockworkMod is better,has much more options. If you'll flash the 3.1.0.0 version using my flashable zips you won't brick anything. And remember to give openOptimus a shot,you won't regret it
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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Do you people ever use search?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 - download and flash ZIP from recovery. Done.
Sorry about that. I didn't realize that you could actually flash a recovery from within the recovery. I just switched to CWM and flashed OpenOptimus. Waiting for first boot as I'm typing this.
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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yes a stated above u can just enter into recovery and flash any recovery u want from the link pointed out above and its safe ,since u already have recovery installed u dont need to flash recovery via rom manager and just remember that any backup taken from any recovery would be restored using the same recovery. To clear all doubts the problem has been solved and installing recovery from rom manger works flawlessly now. Note:Its advisable to use rommanager for ppl not having recovery installed just download the latest rom mager and flash choosig ur phone type.
slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
N00b-un-2 said:
slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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This does not work, or... ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073827
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
I flashed CWM and my friend died a few days later.
So no it's not safe.
For me there are no problems with clockworkmod and RomManager. Flashed cwm via RomManager and everything is fine here.
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XeactorZ said:
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
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it not about using rom manger for flashing rom ,it just to get the cwm recovery and then going into recovery and using it from there.
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
M happy with CWM
Don't use tricks like ROM Manager... It's just matter of learning to use a recovery, not that difficult.. just IMHO
You just need to use ROM manager Once to get recovery. After that you can delete the program and enjoy the CWM recovery.
I have been there, I have done it, You do want it
CWM works beautifully without problems..
I use rom manager just to reboot to recovery, as i am too lazy to use the 3 button combo to goto recovery.
Flashed ROMs and zips with CWM. 100 % safe untill now..
The new updared Rom Manager has solved that issue.
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How much I've learned in just a month!
I can't believe I had to ask that question. I know now that there are numerous ways to flash recoveries. My personal preference is to do it manually using the adb.
shhbz said:
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15186637&postcount=337
No, it is not 100% fine, in fact it lacks any sanity checks whatsoever.
Just flash CWM through your current recovery and you'll be fine. It's by far the safest method. If you flash through ROM Manager and after reboot you get stuck in fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015332 ... happened to me, unbricked it with some slight changes to the tutorial. Nothing important.
PS: If you don't use Rom Manager you can always do a $su then #reboot recovery in a terminal (Downloadable from market) to reboot directly to recovery.
So Im Rooted. Can I ? And Should I Install CWM using the rom manager program? Also is there a specific CWM version for the Fascinate ? Is installing with Odin better? Where do I find the diffrent versions of CWM avialable?
Facinate seems to need ClockWorkMod Version 2.5.1.2
Facinate seems to need ClockWorkMod Version 2.5.1.2 or it will hang, (as there are two separate language barriers and it Version 3.x.x.x at this time can't communicate with the other language. See the Link Below for more Details).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14476573#post14476573
screamin4 said:
So Im Rooted. Can I ? And Should I Install CWM using the rom manager program? Also is there a specific CWM version for the Fascinate ? Is installing with Odin better? Where do I find the diffrent versions of CWM avialable?
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Do not use rom manager at all. It does not work for the Fascinate. Also don't use anything from the link the previous poster provided. All the CWM's in that link are for the Epic 4G not the Fascinate. Most everything for the Fascinate is now written in Edify script so you have two options for a working CWM and both are better flashed in ODIN in my opinion:
CWM from times_infinity - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
CWM from nemesis2all - http://www.multiupload.com/8VDE8GX69P
So IM going to assume that Rom manager is useless on the fascinate? I should be using odin for all rom management? Thank you for All the help Im learning so much! you guys Rock!
So are there any diffrences bettween the two CWM versions that are avialable ? And where do I Find info on both of them ?
screamin4 said:
So IM going to assume that Rom manager is useless on the fascinate? I should be using odin for all rom management? Thank you for All the help Im learning so much! you guys Rock!
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You use CWM for rom management.
screamin4 said:
So are there any diffrences bettween the two CWM versions that are avialable ? And where do I Find info on both of them ?
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Information on times_infinity's version can be found in his thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
The one from nemsis2all gets flashed to your phone when you flash the OTB kernel. There is no thread for nemesis2all's CWM. It is basically the same as the one from times_infinity except it includes the ability to enable and disable the 100mhz step when using an OTB kernel. If you are not using an OTB kernel from nemesis2all you may want to stick with the CWM from times_infinity.
If you are unfamiliar with using CWM here is a great guide on how to use it including screenshot visual aides:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...-clockworkmod-recovery-w-screen-captures.html
ROM Manager has been useless for many months now for the Fascinate.
I only use Odin to flash recoveries and to flash back to stock.
CWM is what you use to flash custom ROMs by using the "install zip from sdcard" option, and then navigating to the zip file of the ROM you downloaded. Just use regular USB mass storage to get the zip file on your phone or just use your phone to download the ROM.
We dont use rom manager much.but we will once we get Official CM7 support.
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I use ROM Manager to boot into CWM. the older version of CWM that is brought up when I do the 3 button boot doesn't work with CM7.. is that correct?
When trying to look for new ROMS on Rom Manager - it wants to install CWM, though I already have it, obviously.. I'd do it, but there is no option for the i500 Fascinate..
I'm so very confused.
I use rom manager to boot into recovery and I'm running CWM 4.0.1.0 (blue text) with no problems
I can vouch for not using RM on the Fascinate. I tried that, used it to flash CWM, everything seemed legit, though CWM didn't want to work right. I looked around, saw that RM is useless, and decided to use some other CWM file through Odin. Had a near-brick and had to restore everything from stock. Killed my sunday afternoon, that's for sure.
CWM installed fine when I rooted but since it seems most of the Dev's are preferring TWRP to CWM I was thinking about getting rid of the CWM and installing TWRP.
I looked around but didn't see just how to do this. Anybody got a link to instructions or know what I need to do?
OR.... Am I worrying about something stupid and shouldn't worry about it?
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CWM installed fine when I rooted but since it seems most of the Dev's are preferring TWRP to CWM I was thinking about getting rid of the CWM and installing TWRP.
I looked around but didn't see just how to do this. Anybody got a link to instructions or know what I need to do?
OR.... Am I worrying about something stupid and shouldn't worry about it?
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I would switch to TWRP. All you need to do is flash TWRP right over CWM. You don't need to erase CWM first. Just follow the instructions for installing TWRP, and you'll be good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Is it possible to just install it through terminal emulator now that we have root?
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Is it possible to just install it through terminal emulator now that we have root?
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Not to my knowledge. Teamwin recommended installing it as a PG86IMG.zip for now, as that's the most reliable way to install it. You could also use fastboot to flash it if you'd want. Those are the only two ways I know to install it.
Actually, it looks like you can use Joeykrim's flash GUI app would do that...maybe research how to use it for that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192527&highlight=flash+GUI+app
my opinion is Teamwins recovery wil become the standard , nothing against clockwork . Amon Ra was the king of recoveries in the EVO4G days or atleast in my mind it was . I flashed the Teamwin recovery using the PG86IMG.zip . Went very smoothly without a hitch . My only advice is when you flash to Teamwin make a backup of your stock set up then let the flashing addiction kick in .
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I would switch to TWRP. All you need to do is flash TWRP right over CWM. You don't need to erase CWM first. Just follow the instructions for installing TWRP, and you'll be good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
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Is the same true if I want to go back to CWM? Can I use ROM Manager to install CWM over TWRP?
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Is the same true if I want to go back to CWM? Can I use ROM Manager to install CWM over TWRP?
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Yes. There's a new touch recovery available. Search the play store for 4ext. Its a touch recovery.
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Latest Twrp works well. Only issues I seen in the latest was the time is off by 3 hours in the recovery and it doesn't seem to charge no red light.. But flashes everything right..
Hopefully this fixes a issue where the phone wasn't charging to green while off...
I've just started to use 4ext and so far I have no issues. TWRP works well also. I did get some restarts while in TWRP.
4eXT is going to become the standard you just don't know it yet...
(used Amon Ra, Clockwork Mod,TWRP and now 4eXT.)
Hi. I'm running CyanogenMod on my Samsung Galaxy S II i777 (the AT&T one). I was running UnNamed ROM on it, and that had ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.7. But after I flashed CyanogenMod, the ClockworkMod Recovery downgraded to v5.0.2.3. How can I update back to the 5.0.2.7 version?
The reason I ask is because in v5.0.2.3, the backup options are limited, and it doesn't allow me to restore my old, v5.0.27 Nandroid backups in case I need to. I've done a Google search and searched the XDA forums, and the only help I found was to use the ROM Manager app. However, in this post, user creepyncrawly advises me not to use ROM Manager because it "has problems on this phone." I also found some custom kernels, but those were for different phone models.
So how can I update ClockworkMod Recovery without losing any data?
You need to install a kernel that has the newer CWM.
Your post doesn't make sense unless you installed a VERY old CM7 release, considering that the CWM 5.0.2.7 binary in my kernels was pulled FROM CyanogenMod.
I made a mistake. I meant to say that I have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6, not 5.0.2.7. But my problem is still the same: in CWM Recovery, I don't have the option to "Advanced Restore from SD card." Even when I move my old Nandroid backups (created under CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7) to my phone, they're still not picked up by CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6.
Anyway, thanks for letting me know how to update. Any zImage from any custom ROM will work, right? I'm just trying to do this without incrementing the flash counter on my phone. So I need to choose one from this subforum, and flash with Mobile Odin?
Completely_Clueless said:
I made a mistake. I meant to say that I have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6, not 5.0.2.7. But my problem is still the same: in CWM Recovery, I don't have the option to "Advanced Restore from SD card." Even when I move my old Nandroid backups (created under CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7) to my phone, they're still not picked up by CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6.
Anyway, thanks for letting me know how to update. Any zImage from any custom ROM will work, right? I'm just trying to do this without incrementing the flash counter on my phone. So I need to choose one from this subforum, and flash with Mobile Odin?
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Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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jcracken said:
Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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This worked beautifully! I now have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7, and my phone info shows that I have SiyahKernel as well.
Thank you very much!
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Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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It doesn't support CM7, but should be able to restore a CM7 Nandroid.
Hi everyone.
i rooted my phone with this guide which installed a based CWM recovery on my phone with Siyah-s2-v6.0b4.tar using Odin.
Now i want to run a touch CWM recovery but no matter how i tried- no way worked and i always get the based CWM recovery again.
I tried ROM manager and RECOVERY tools but none of these actually worked (although i got success messages).
I also tried to download the recovery file from the official site of CWM, but when i tried to copy it to my sd card an error message popped out saying copy can't be done and the device is not connected or working or something.. i can copy other zip files without any problem.
can anyone help?
thanks.
1) Do not use Rom Manager with the SGS2. It will break recovery and/or cause bootloops eventually. It may even brick your phone. You don't need it.
2) Any recovery flashed independently of the kernel on the SGS2 will only persist until the next reboot, which is why what you're trying isn't working. If you want a touch version of CWM, flash/run a kernel which has this. Which kernels ? Read the kernel threads in the development section (I don't use PhilZ on my SGS2, but his comes to mind as I use it on my I9505).
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MistahBungle said:
1) Do not use Rom Manager with the SGS2. It will break recovery and/or cause bootloops eventually. It may even brick your phone. You don't need it.
2) Any recovery flashed independently of the kernel on the SGS2 will only persist until the next reboot, which is why what you're trying isn't working. If you want a touch version of CWM, flash/run a kernel which has this. Which kernels ? Read the kernel threads in the development section (I don't use PhilZ on my SGS2, but his comes to mind as I use it on my I9505).
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thank you very much! i'm relieved i didn't brick my phone, that could have been a mess..
flashing kernels is like regular flashing? just installing the zip file? do i need to wipe any data or cache or something?
thanks for your response.
Follow the flashing instructions for the kernel in question to the letter (always on the first page of the kernel thread, always very clear/precise/easy to follow).
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.... I use it on my I9505).
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In that case, great to still see you in the s2 forums
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