ROM using all my phone space? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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Eros2180 said:
As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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On sense ROMs, more files are made in the /data partition, due to the greater amount of lib files and other things created by Sense. When you install one app it makes data in /data/data and /data/dalvik , and sense has many apps so the space used goes straight to hell in a basket. But use a Vanilla Rom, and space should go down a bit...Use disk analyses to see what's using the space.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage&hl=en

Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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Eros2180 said:
Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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I don't actually know which ROMs are avail for Evo, maybe you can use MIUI/CM7 or the most popular AOSP? If you choose to use Sense, just remove some apps from the /system partition.

along with resetting the phone to "factory defaults", did you wipe cache and dalvik cache 3 times? I used CWM the other day on my phone to install a ROM and forgot to wipe cache also... kept getting "device is low on memory" errors. Wiped cache and dalvik 3 times, installed the ROM again, everything worked perfectly.

Why 3 times? Extreme redundance LOL. Once is enough. Wiped means its wiped doing it two more times is mildly retarded.
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Root: revolutionary
Recovery: Twrp cwm 4
ROM: Synergy rls318 (I want aosp)

I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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Eros2180 said:
I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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Could be bad blocks on the MTD/Nand chip? If the block are bad then the ROM might not be restore-able anymore. or the backup could be bad, try another ROM instead.

My SD card was full so that's why the backups failed. I had no idea the files were so big. Now still in search for another Rom. No luck with finding the vanilla Rom.
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Can't install or update apps!

Okay I can't seem to install any new apps or update any existing ones on my phone. I'm able to download them, but once it tries to install its always unsuccessful. Don't get mad if this is the wrong thread. I'm new to this but usually find answers to my problems with someone else's topic. Except for this one here. Any help?
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Try clearing system cache, reboot into recovery and clear dalvik cache, then reboot.
How do you clear system cache? Searched under settings could not find anything.
I've has the same problem. Lasted about two days. The apps would download but would stick on installing forever and would eventually fail. My solution was logging into Google on the phones browser. It seems like my account timed out on my phone, and after logging out and then back in, my market began to work perfectly again. You can also try what was posted above. Are you rooted? Cause of you aren't, then you won't be able to do those things said above. Good luck, hope this helps.
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Tried clearing cache and signing in and out of Google. Neither worked. I have opera set up as default browser, tried with both opera & phones regular browser. Still nothing. Yes I'm rooted, running kaosfroyo v34.
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Try a factory/data reset. Sounds like your only option.
Reflash after that to make sure it loaded correctly.
A simple flash over to KaosFroyo V 37 fixed the problem. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Clear data for the market in settings. That usually works for me. If it doesn't, you can install the apps manually by using a file system manger (Linda File Manager, Root Explorer, etc.). The .apk should be in the download folder on the sd.
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Ok so I've tried all suggestions and nothing has seemed to work. I figured, why not try a new rom? So I flashed over to Vanilla Tazz. Seemed ok at first. Was able to update apps and download some new ones. Emphasis on SOME. Cannot for the life of me get back AndroZip which is my favorite file manager. Even backed it up with Titanium before all this started happening but still could not restore it. And now with Vanilla all you get is the crappy Android keyboard. So I download the HTC ime keypoard apk. Can't install that either. Try to download eoeAppInstaller to do so, can't install that. This is really, really, really pissing me off. Is a factory reset my only hope?
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Did you do a full wipe before installing the new rom? Try doing a dalvik wipe and rebooting. It shouldn't affect the current rom you're in.
Also, it sounds like whatever problem you had in the old rom was carried to the new one. Did you use titanium to restore any apps or settings? If so, you may have "restored" the problem.
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Have you messed with any system apps? Like moving the market to the sd card?
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I backed up my kaos rom and wiped all data and cache before flashing vanilla tazz. Just wiped dalvik but still no luck.
I used titanium to restore apps but no settings. And no I haven't messed with system apps. Should I try moving to sd?
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I had a problen with my FB not syncing with contacts (across several roms). Turns out something I was restoring with Titanium (not the FB app) was causing it. It'll be a pain in the rear, but you probably need to do a full wipe, flash a clean rom, and set everything up manually. OR you could probably nand restore to a rom BEFORE you were having this problem, create a Titanium back up, wipe, flash the new rom, and restore Titanium.
Hopefully, this will straighten things out for ya!
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Full wipe as in factory reset right? Will that unroot the phone as well, basically forcing me to start from scratch?
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Tried nand restore but kept getting an error and could not complete.
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Full wipe for "rooters" means wipe data, dalvik, and ext (if sd card is partitioned).
Have you renamed your nandroid? If so, remove any spaces and try again.
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Which Rom,radio,kernel are you using???

Hey everyone!
I'm new to the thunderbolt and love flashing roms. I used to use the nexus one and just curious what roms,radios, and kernels everyone uses? I'm a big fan of cm7 but wanted to hear everyone's take on what they like/dislike about their current ROM they are using.
Thanks to all who reply to this thread.
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shockaholick said:
Hey everyone!
I'm new to the thunderbolt and love flashing roms. I used to use the nexus one and just curious what roms,radios, and kernels everyone uses? I'm a big fan of cm7 but wanted to hear everyone's take on what they like/dislike about their current ROM they are using.
Thanks to all who reply to this thread.
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It's all in my sig. I've run Chingy's ROMs on my devices for a couple years now because they aren't pimped out, overworked, quirky, experimental ROMs. He strips out heaps of totally useless garbage, optimizes them in all the functional ways every other dev does, provides excellent mods, and bakes in the best kernels. His ROMs aren't FrankenROM projects like Synergy, and they aren't attempting to bend reality like uberBAMF. They're based on the most recent RUUs and they simply work, which is what matters most to me. I'm the kind of guy who'll wipe a ROM if just one thing I use a lot doesn't work right.
That sounds worth a try....can u direct me to that ROM? Also, is it worth to do a2sd with the chingy ROM? Thank you for the input...I like cm7 but I like effiencey. Thanks for your input...look forward to hearing your next reply...
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shockaholick said:
That sounds worth a try....can u direct me to that ROM? Also, is it worth to do a2sd with the chingy ROM? Thank you for the input...I like cm7 but I like effiencey. Thanks for your input...look forward to hearing your next reply...
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I've always thought App2SD was kind of pointless unless you had a need too. If anything, it's more risky because your SDcard can become corrupted a number of ways and having apps out there puts them at risk. Chingy's ROMs can be found at themikmik.com. I've NEVER been a fan of AOSP primarily because of CM7. I've run 5 versions on my dInc and all of them have been unstable and quirky. My girlfriend uses it now and likes CM7, but it's a constant battle to keep it stable and running the way it should. The 2 versions I've tried on my Tbolt either had functionality problems or rebooted. I will not tolerate a ROM that reboots if there's any alternative out there that doesn't.
Thanks again for your input...soooo everything that works the way it should?4g..Bluetooth, Skype, navigation, etc. Also...just download the ROM and flash? And its good to go if I'm coming from the stock thunderbolt? You mentioned everything was baked in.
Thanks again!
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There are a couple of bugs in the leaked RUU on which the roms are based. One, no voice mail notifications (use google voice to work around that). Two, sometimes you cannot answer a phone call, you only get the option to end it. Not sure if there is a fix for that one. Otherwise the ROM (3D) was very stable for me and great battery life.
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Loonatik-
is your entire rom thats in your signature all baked with all the kernals and radios you have listed as well in your signature??
shockaholick said:
Loonatik-
is your entire rom thats in your signature all baked with all the kernals and radios you have listed as well in your signature??
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Radios don't come in a ROM. You need to flash those separately through a different process. Otherwise, pretty much yes. The kernel doesn't come running at those speeds or the voltages I have set. I undervolt mine even more than stock. You can see my voltages in the pics I have uploaded to XDA, as well as the time-in-state.
I've never had the problem with the phone answering that some people talk about. As for Skype, voice mail... I've never had a use for any of it, so I can't tell you about it. I definitely suggest reading the thread for any ROM... just gloss over it and you'll see what issues people have with it pretty quick. None are perfect, but they WAY better than stock.
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Radios don't come in a ROM. You need to flash those separately through a different process. Otherwise, pretty much yes. The kernel doesn't come running at those speeds or the voltages I have set. I undervolt mine even more than stock. You can see my voltages in the pics I have uploaded to XDA, as well as the time-in-state.
I've never had the problem with the phone answering that some people talk about. As for Skype, voice mail... I've never had a use for any of it, so I can't tell you about it. I definitely suggest reading the thread for any ROM... just gloss over it and you'll see what issues people have with it pretty quick. None are perfect, but they WAY better than stock.
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So...I'm about to start flashing the chingy 3d rom...just a few questions if you dont mind answering...I currently have rom manager installed, and I'm using clockwork recovery.
This is the order I think from what I remember to do things..sorry In advance if I sound like a noob. I only flash roms every so often, so I forget some steps...
1. back up on clockword mod backup
2. wipe factory data
3. wipe cache partition
4.flash rom
5.flash radio (optional...where is the radio you are using loonatik? )
6.reboot
??????
also...when I did a back up just now..I get the following...
ClockwordMod Recovery v4.0.1.5
SD Card space free: 2912MB
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
backing up system...
backing up data...
backing up .android_secure...
backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup Complete!
The line that worries me is the "No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext."
Should I worry about this?
Again, sorry for the noob questions...
And thank you for continued support and help!
Don't worry about the extension on the SD card. It just means you don't have yours partitioned.
As far as wipe:
Wipe cache
Factory data reset
Advanced...wipe davlik
Mounts and storage...wipe system
Flash the rom
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shockaholick said:
So...I'm about to start flashing the chingy 3d rom...just a few questions if you dont mind answering...I currently have rom manager installed, and I'm using clockwork recovery.
This is the order I think from what I remember to do things..sorry In advance if I sound like a noob. I only flash roms every so often, so I forget some steps...
1. back up on clockword mod backup
2. wipe factory data
3. wipe cache partition
4.flash rom
5.flash radio (optional...where is the radio you are using loonatik? )
6.reboot
??????
also...when I did a back up just now..I get the following...
ClockwordMod Recovery v4.0.1.5
SD Card space free: 2912MB
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
backing up system...
backing up data...
backing up .android_secure...
backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup Complete!
The line that worries me is the "No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext."
Should I worry about this?
Again, sorry for the noob questions...
And thank you for continued support and help!
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The SD-ext is nothing to worry about. No need to manually wipe cache as the factory reset/delete user data function does that. It's good to format /system though. You won't be flashing the radio through clockwork, if that's what you were thinking of doing. That must be done through the bootloader. The radio I'm using can be found in my q AND a thread at the top of the Q&A forum, along with flashing instructions. PM me if you have further questions. I'll respond faster.
ILMF said:
Don't worry about the extension on the SD card. It just means you don't have yours partitioned.
As far as wipe:
Wipe cache
Factory data reset
Advanced...wipe davlik
Mounts and storage...wipe system
Flash the rom
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why would it be good to have your sd card partitioned? just curious..and is needed for the chingy 3dROM
shockaholick said:
why would it be good to have your sd card partitioned? just curious..and is needed for the chingy 3dROM
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It's used for partitioning the SDcard to use part of it for the system's native file system. Nothing requires it.

Nandroid Questions

How big should the back up be mine was 1.7gb should I factory/reset, wipe cache and Davlik then do the back up? I don't mind it being 1.7gb just want to make sure I have a solid backup before I flash a ROM?
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snipe2nite said:
How big should the back up be mine was 1.7gb should I factory/reset, wipe cache and Davlik then do the back up? I don't mind it being 1.7gb just want to make sure I have a solid backup before I flash a ROM?
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Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large.
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Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large.
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If you have 300 apps like I do, that could be it
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Nick281051 said:
If you have 300 apps like I do, that could be it
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That's why I question it, I have like 20 apps installed. I do have like 10 GO Launcher apps. I never did wipe cache and Davlik after installing Entropy kernel to get CWM. Is that safe to do now on a stock ROM with no boot issues?
Originally Posted by Simba501
"Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large."
I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems after installing a custom ROM I don't care if it is with no apps easy to reinstall apps then reflashing Entropy Stock/Root and still having to install apps.....
snipe2nite said:
Originally Posted by Simba501
I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems after installing a custom ROM I don't care if it is with no apps easy to reinstall apps then reflashing Entropy Stock/Root and still having to install apps.....
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Why do you need a Nandroid Backup?
Ans: you already provided the answer in your post ""I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems ..."
It is for your own, you can do nb once for every hour or once a year, it's up to you.
votinh said:
Why do you need a Nandroid Backup?
Ans: you already provided the answer in your post ""I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems ..."
It is for your own, you can do nb once for every hour or once a year, it's up to you.
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Confused..... Please read my OP... That response was to Simba501 why I would "factory/reset" Then nandroid my first nandroid was 1.7gb just trying to figure out why it was so Big when most people's are 300mb to 1gb.
Bump.... Matt , Wink anyone else, can I clear cache/dalvik in CWM on my stock ROM with no problems? I'm trying to get my Nandroid under 1g? Something doesn't seem right it being 1.7gb?
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Update: After looking in the CWM backup the file sizes are.
.android_secure.vfat.tar 885mb
data.ext4.tar 322mb
system.ext4.tar 462mb
Any ideas what I can do to get the Nandroid file size smaller?
You've got 800+ mb of apps and data installed on the internal SD. The .android_secure file is well, a backup of the entire .android_secure folder. When you go to Manage Apps and tell the phone to "move to SD card" (some apps just install there on their own) this is where they go.
My backups are about the same size as yours but I've got like 102 apps installed, and quite a few are 20+ mb games.
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Mine generally run 1.2 gb. 150 apps installed.
My first backup was 730mb my latest backup is 1.58gb eel
Cwm finally put my backup on the external_SD instead of the internal USB sd
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Slavestate said:
You've got 800+ mb of apps and data installed on the internal SD. The .android_secure file is well, a backup of the entire .android_secure folder. When you go to Manage Apps and tell the phone to "move to SD card" (some apps just install there on their own) this is where they go.
My backups are about the same size as yours but I've got like 102 apps installed, and quite a few are 20+ mb games.
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I did move some games to the SD card but then I factory reset I did tick "format USB storage" before I rooted it then flashed Entroys kernel. I only have like 20 apps installed now. So I guess there are apps stored in some old folder I have searched all over for the folder or folders can't find them anywhere..... Any help where to look?
That much data with that few apps suggest maybe you have some video or music files getting lumped in there. Hard to say for sure, but I agree 1.7 seems like way too much. Try installing TiBu and back up your apps, then take a look and see how big the backups are. This might provide some more granular clues. I highly suggest the TiBu pro batch feature... Save u a lot of time in general

[Q] Advice on a soft brick.

It's a random softbrick, no changes have been made for months, so I've not backed up for ages, I want to svae contacts and messages and app data.
Will odin wipe data, can it be repaired with CWM no wipe flash?
Long version.
I've been using ICS for 4 months.
I did a wipe and fresh install on the release of the official GB ICS.
I then used clockwork mod to changle toggles and clock, then triangle away.
Things were ok until a month ago when I hit the App to SD memory bug, which was fixed be removing apps back to internal.
Again been fine for about a month.
Then today, random lock on "Samsung Galaxy s II gt-9100" screen.
No changes have been made for ages, the only change was adding on{x} today.
Whats the best way to try and get this fixed? I want to save as much data as I can, I've not backed up for a few months, as I wasn't ,making any changes.
Should I just Just use odin and see what happens, or is there a better way, even if it is longer?
Can I put a no wipe flash on my SD and use CWM to try and repair? Is this a more complicated risk move? if so whats the risk.
I'd really like to keep as much as I can 'cos I've got the perfect setup for me (besides the boot lock...)
THanks folks.
mega_bite said:
It's a random softbrick, no changes have been made for months, so I've not backed up for ages, I want to svae contacts and messages and app data.
Will odin wipe data, can it be repaired with CWM no wipe flash?
THanks folks.
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just check the kink below hope it might help with ur soft brick issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457458
Cheers.
I've already got the files and odin ready to go.
I just don't want to wipe my data.
I was wondering if a cwm rom would be able to fix it. or Do i have to use odin
I don't want to loose data or current setup and apps
THanks
mega_bite said:
Cheers.
I've already got the files and odin ready to go.
I just don't want to wipe my data.
I was wondering if a cwm rom would be able to fix it. or Do i have to use odin
I don't want to loose data or current setup and apps
THanks
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I'm pretty sure odin is your only option
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Yeah, thanks for the help anyway.
I didn't know if using CWM to flash a different rom would work.
I was hoping a no wipe rom would fix the error was and keep my apps and data.
It didn't.
I used odin to flash a base > then CWM > then resurection.
I've lost loads of data :-(
But my phones sweet
lol, you win some and you loose some.
I really should know better, as a sys admin I bollock folks all the time for not doing backups. luckily I backed up messages recently, so should also have contacs there. Just all my save games, app data, is gone
THanks
mega_bite said:
Yeah, thanks for the help anyway.
I didn't know if using CWM to flash a different rom would work.
I was hoping a no wipe rom would fix the error was and keep my apps and data.
It didn't.
I used odin to flash a base > then CWM > then resurection.
I've lost loads of data :-(
But my phones sweet
lol, you win some and you loose some.
I really should know better, as a sys admin I bollock folks all the time for not doing backups. luckily I backed up messages recently, so should also have contacs there. Just all my save games, app data, is gone
THanks
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Yea that's why it's good practice to make frequent backups and store some on your computer
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Restoring data including apps and accounts.

Before I install a new ROM I always do a back up in recovery before I install the new ROM. Then I wipe everything before flashing the new ROM. Then I install the ROM. Then I do a restore of only the data from my back up. This reinstalls all of my apps and all of my account data. When I restore I simply uncheck boot and system and let the restore only be the data from my back up. This is a fast easy way rather than using titanium back up or similar. I'm not sure if this can be done going from sense to aosp. But I don't see why it would be a problem. Hope this helps some of you out there. I always wipe dalvik and cache between everything I do.
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From all I've ever read, yes, it would be a problem going from sense to AOSP, but I must admit I've never personally tried. I guess it (this method) wouldn't try to restore any sense apps, as they would be on the system/app partition, not /data.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
Depends, if it just restores data than I think not? Then again if your only trying to restore apps that be on data/app hmm. Test and find out? I wanna know! And stuck deep in the south horrid 3g and no additional rims in storage.
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Honestly the best way to restore accounts apps and data is to do a back-up then after you flash your new rom is to restore data from your back up with twrp. Then everything is done. Just uncheck boot and system from your back up. Very fast and simple. This can be done from sense to sense. And aosp to aosp or aokp.
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treIII said:
Before I install a new ROM I always do a back up in recovery before I install the new ROM. Then I wipe everything before flashing the new ROM. Then I install the ROM. Then I do a restore of only the data from my back up. This reinstalls all of my apps and all of my account data. When I restore I simply uncheck boot and system and let the restore only be the data from my back up. This is a fast easy way rather than using titanium back up or similar. I'm not sure if this can be done going from sense to aosp. But I don't see why it would be a problem. Hope this helps some of you out there. I always wipe dalvik and cache between everything I do.
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If you mean system data then I've tried that coming from AOKP back to sense and it'll say "a reboot is required for changes to take affect" but it'll send you into a boot loop. Believe me I've hardbricked 2 EvoLTEs
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If you mean system data then I've tried that coming from AOKP back to sense and it'll say "a reboot is required for changes to take affect" but it'll send you into a boot loop. Believe me I've hardbricked 2 EvoLTEs
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Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
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