Motorola really needs to hurry up and release the source for the Photon!!! The lack of kernel/ROM development is really frustrating and I really want to put my rooted Photon through the paces!
Yes honda i know exactly what you mean. I'm hoping they release the source very soon I'm suffering from not being able to flash anything, I blame it on my og Evo
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I think it is happening some time this week. The first time I have ever hoped that a guy would show me his packages!
http://sourceforge.net/motorola/discussion/general_comments/thread/0162c299/
-DJ
Same here. My 3D is still sitting on my desk, it is calling me but I am fighting the urge to go back!
It's tough, guys, especially with the beast of a phone that Sprint will be getting soon (SGSII), which you know will have mad support here in XDA. I will probably end up giving the Photon to my son and getting the SGSII instead.
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It's tough, guys, especially with the beast of a phone that Sprint will be getting soon (SGSII), which you know will have mad support here in XDA. I will probably end up giving the Photon to my son and getting the SGSII instead.
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I don't know man, I looked at that thing, I don't think I would trade it up to be honest. We will have kernel love here really soon, I can feel it. That SGSII doesn't seem very cool looking to me and I don't think I can go back to Samsung. I used to have the Eternity, the almost a smartphone but not quite. If I go to anything it won't be until 2012 when we get the HTC Kingdom or something of that nature. Can't see myself going to the SGSII, but who knows, if it has mad support and the hardware is comparable to the Photon, meaning performance and real numbers wise then its a possibility.
But I'm still not giving up on the Photon.
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I am feeling the itch too but then I step back and think about it, what is wrong with the current function of my phone then I draw a big blank. Granted I would love to push more performance to future proof but really can't see a whole lot of need to go beyond root for the immediate future.
If you are comparing the development scene to the original EVO I don't think that anything will ever compare. It was so far ahead of its time people swarmed to it. The GS2 looks great on paper (he'll it looks good in the leaked photos) but samsung has let me down with firmware (example EPIC). I can totally relate though I would love to see some CM7/MIUI on here.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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I am going to try and get a theme up and running... thats the only thing I can help with thusfar lol
I'm thinking of getting the sgs 2 but Samsung kills me with updates. I don't know if it would be worth it.
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I'm thinking of getting the sgs 2 but Samsung kills me with updates. I don't know if it would be worth it.
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Ya the Epic is still waiting for gingerbread release.
I know, that's why I got rid of it after a month. Went to the evo and got spoiled.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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I don't think anything runs circles around the Photon, I think the Photon is the one running circles. As far as real numbers, that is true. If not please link me some information. That SGS2 will not beat the Photon, sorry but I am an avid overclocker with PC's and I know that if this phone out of the box out performs any phone on the market right now, its just going to get severely better with custom kernels. I personally can't wait now that we have release.
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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+1 samsung epic ex-owner here, phone had great specs and potential, lack of support shunned me away
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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+1 samsung epic ex-owner here, phone had great specs and potential, lack of support shunned me away
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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Thank you!
I don't understand why people are so concerned with sammys support when we're all going to flash ROMs as soon as possible...
As far as benchmarks:
anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
They seem to be pretty evenly matched. I would side with tegra because its more well established with greater dev support but I've not really seen that to be the case... yet. Outside of Tegrazone anyway
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Thank you!
I don't understand why people are so concerned with sammys support when we're all going to flash ROMs as soon as possible...
As far as benchmarks:
anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
They seem to be pretty evenly matched. I would side with tegra because its more well established with greater dev support but I've not really seen that to be the case... yet. Outside of Tegrazone anyway
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Sammy updates are still kind of important. Look at the epic with the gps issues. That phone had a crippled gps until it was updated. Not saying that the sg2 will have those issues, just stating that there are some things that not even our devs can fix.
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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Because with the samsung epic, gb was never officially released so no kernel source code. So devs can't do much other than tweaks. No cm6 no cm7, just leaks after leaks.
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I just got the X2 and it's been running fine for me. It seems with the Tegra 2, this phone would possibly be able to handle Android 4.0 whenever it comes out. With the lack of development, what are the chances that the X2 will just ride with GB until its death? I like so far how the phone is working well out of the box, but in 1-1.75 years when the phone shows its age, I would like to mod it here and there to get some more life out of it.
No phone is future proof. The Tegra3 is around the croner for tablets, and phones wont be that far behind. I would bet 4g phones get the Tegra3, so if 4g is a negative for a select crowd, the DX2 may be the last great 3g phone. It will be interesting to see if they continue supporting a high-end 3g line.
I would imagine ICS would run fine on OG DX much less DX2. I would say there is a small, but possible chance a stock DX2 would die on GB. But the dev will bring it regardless.
Edit: And at this point I am 100% satisfied with everything I have flashed on DX2. What did DX have? Liberty and Apex. And yes a good bit of themes. But the devs here have a ton of scripts I never saw on DX and the themes have been coming fast, and are of good quality. The eclipse ROM has branched to AOSP, so both crowds should be happy. I personally stuck with 2.2 and couldnt be happier.
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That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
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That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
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I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
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Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
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Let's hope so! There is a game called "We Rule" that doesn't work on the X2 yet but on the X1! BOOO
SO who's gonna be upgrading to the Amaze 4G ??
I wouldn't mind.. but will wait a little. Still like my MYTOUCH 4G. Just upset with t-mobile service.. highly disappointed.
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In order for me to purchase another device it has to be rooted with s off already accomplished. I love the mt4g way to much right now.
Nah, even if it was rooted. Even though the specs are a little bit better than the Sensation I'd still rather get the Sensation because all of the good devs already jumped to the Sensation.
I'd be surprised if a lot of devs went to the Amaze. Probably going to be a similar situation with the SGS4G when all of the devs were already on the Vibrant, no point in getting the SGS4G.
Good phone though, just wish that's what HTC did with the Sensation. The 1GB of RAM and better camera is nice.
Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
ill prolly pick it up, but not when it first comes out. i love my phone but id like to have something with a little bigger screen and soft keys
The device just looks so damn good though. I'm thinking about it hard.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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coupetastic-droid said:
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
cmstlist said:
I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
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Then wear dickies...kidding lol.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
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Could be due to the extra 210mA's in the Amaze's battery?
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Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
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Specs isn't the only important thing....The G2X had good HW, but had some hw flaws like bleeding among other things.
Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
I'm gonna wait for the nexus prime.
cray.
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Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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Steve still works with CM, it's just a separate project now, it may have less work from cyan himself. However you can't forget that CM has a large amount of devs, Cyan has help from others so I doubt they would actually allow CM brand to die off like this.
Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Since Steve works with Sammy now I'm thinking that he could be learning new or different tweaks, Sammy should have some sort of ICS access (Sammy should have it by now) depending on his job position; so maybe he can work on CM8 slightly earlier. Personally I'm not to thrilled about ICS, after seeing that NexusS w/ "ICS"....It looked nothing like I thought, I figured Google would step it up to fend off iOS5/WP7.5(Mango). But it doesn't seem like much of a UI overhaul, but I'm sure the usability/features have been significantly changed.
I've been sitting on an upgrade since last month so I'm going to use in on the Amaze, even though I was planning to use it on the Sensation.
I'm just wondering why the development community for the Photon has been so slow. I am not complaining, and am extremely greatful for everyone's work on the projects that keep us modders happy. I'm simply curioius as to whether or not there's a specific issue (an unreleased SDK, just a difficult phone to develop for, etc) as there have been several phones that have come out since the MoPho and already have more roms/kernals/etc. Again, this is simply out of curiosity. Thank you for any answers that you guys can provide.
Ive asked the same thing for a long time i still dont get it
It's the working mans phone, plus its not plagued with issues
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I'm just glad we have come this far...
Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
Well considering everything software wise should be considered beta(perfect software will never happen). Im pretty sure my stuff is safe. When i release a kernel, i upload from that kernel. I cant guarantee no bugs because not even stock isnt without bugs. I use alpha to scare away people that will brand all my stuff crap. Once a kernel goes stable its the same kernel just tested by more than just me.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Although listed as alpha, they work very well. Give them a try.
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I'm using MIUI alpha and is pretty solid. Has its share of bugs but very promising.
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I wish I knew the answer to this as well. In fact, I asked the exact same question about a month ago and all I was told was that it's due to poor marketing by Sprint?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345073
All I ever hear from everyone is how much of a kickass phone this is, which I totally agree with. You would think that for a phone with such a solid platform to work off of, the development would be insane. Unfortunately, it's just the opposite.
i have to agree with jay
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i have to agree with jay
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Have you done any development for it? No? That's why it's slow.
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Go home troll
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i have to agree with jay
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Instead of asking why there isn't enough development, why not state specifics on what you are looking for that is missing?
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honestly no offence to you but this can be pretty insulting to our developers who are highly skilled and working all their free time into getting this going, talk to Motorola for locking the bootloader and not releasing they're kernel if u want to make things faster and easier for the developers.
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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I don't think this is entirely true. I came from the Evo 4G, and development/roms were plentiful from the dev community for that phone.
While it is a bit disconcerting to see the lack of development for my new Photon, it is important to remember that developers do this on their own time. However, as others have said, this device is far and above, even with Motoblur (which is awful, btw), what most other devices have to offer. There are, obviously, some other highly spec'd Sprint phones, like the SGSII, Evo3d, and the Nexus S 4G. And with the now impending release of the new Nexus on Sprint, I would assume development for the MoPho will likely drop altogether.
All that said, I do wish I had a stable AOSP ROM to put on this phone, with a nice guide on the most up-to-date rooting method(s). I only got this phone yesterday, so it'll be a few hours of fishing through hundreds of pages of forums before I'm ready to start rooting (I'm on 2.3.4)...my concern is what to put on my phone AFTER I'm rooted. :-(
Anyways -- thanks to all the devs that have put something together for us. Joker, it seems that your stuff is at the forefront, while some people are apparently still using the CM7 build from Cybik. Maybe I'll try it all!
Just to give a little perspective regarding software, when the company I work for goes to update an existing device with new code it takes a fair amount of full time software developers and testers (at least 3 or 4 of each) and a couple of months to get something out in a fairly stable state when they are familiar with the code that are updating.
What the developers here are doing is makes updates to code they did not create or develop and lord knows if there is one thing developers hate to do is comment code. So it makes it even more difficult for anyone to first understand what the code is doing in order to make that changes let alone someone who has a separate full time job.
I know your not complaining about the slowness, only asking why so I thought I would give me 2 cents.
Yeah jokers cm9 is running great! You should try it out. The only reason not to use it is the camera doesn't work so if that is important to you just wait. I barely use the camera so doesn't bother me.
I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
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do you think the cubs will win the world series this year? not likely but how will we know the answer either of these questions without official word...
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I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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No, you're thinking about the i9100, not the i777
I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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i'm a noob, but
Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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Having used ICS on the captivate, it truly is an update worth switching devices for. However, I'm pretty happy with the I777 so I will just wait. Android updates that were actually really good: Froyo, Honeycomb, and ICS. The rest were just hyped too damn much and gingerbread is the worst of all of them (imho).
Wow. Use the sticky thread.
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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For one, it's not just ICS when Jellybean comes out, you're going to get it much quicker than anyone else. And also, it's the purest form of the Android version minus any bloatware each manufacturer puts on the phone, which can be either a pro or a con, but overall, the bloatware has been a con in the past.
IMO, Gingerbread was a very good update, Froyo didn't seem that special when I finally got it for my S7. The biggest improvement was non-broken radio firmware, which had nothing to do with Android version.
Gingerbread had significant power management improvements.
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Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
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Im still trying to rub it off!
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Tired of waiting!!!!
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
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I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
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I am not threatening the devs at all. I am sick of Samsung not the devs. Read a little more careful next time.
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I am really trying!!!
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
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What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
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First of all I said that I APPRECIATE the devs!!!! And I never said that the roms were official. Almost all HTC and LG phones have ICS roms. I left t-mobile with the htc sensation and believe me that phone runs 300% better now that it is running ICS. And by the way Entropy it is no disrespect to any dev by what I said, I am rocking your Kernel right now (Excellent job). I am pissed at Samsung and them only. Our phone is supposed to be a flagship phone so what the hell is the holdup?
If you can't wait then just go get the G Nexus. These questions have been brought up and beaten to death. Just don't be surprised when Ics finally drops for our device and our Roms are superior than most. GS2 surely has the hardware to run prety much anything smoothly and dev community is strong here
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This thread is useless. Now on to something more important. When will we get jelly bean? I can't wait.
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Read this on a couple of tech sites. Very disappointed. I was under the impression that the wait for ICS wasn't gonna be that long. That was a big factor in getting the note. Would have held out for a quad core with ICS already on it if I knew it was gonna be this long. I love my note and it's sad that att's flagship android device doesn't have the latest version of android. Plus I think ics will smooth out alot of the lagginess owners have been reporting.
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just read this on gsmarena and I am bummed if this is for the US too... I may have to go ahead an install SAUROM in the meantime
What?! Link liars!
ICS is a major battery drain anyway.
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Truaim said:
What?! Link liars!
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I believe that this is what the OP is referring to:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/8Efjssn8-lQ/story01.htm
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As I said in many other threads that ICS is nowhere near coming yet.....and people actually thought it was coming this month lol. With the way froyo came and gingerbread to follow should of been your first clue, if you actually thought they were gonna pop out ICS just like that that's the stupidity on your part. Remember folks the word was 'its slated for the note', Never said When!
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ICS is a major battery drain anyway.
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ICS upped my Xooms battery life by about 30%. I disagree.
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ICS wasn't coming until at least Q2 for the AT&T Note anyways. In fact, your ICS might be right on schedule.
The funny part is that this is for the International version. Meaning that we'll get ICS months after that
Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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The reason is, once you ICS, you never want to go back, that's why I returned my note and stick with my nexus.
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Read this on a couple of tech sites. Very disappointed. I was under the impression that the wait for ICS wasn't gonna be that long. That was a big factor in getting the note. Would have held out for a quad core with ICS already on it if I knew it was gonna be this long. I love my note and it's sad that att's flagship android device doesn't have the latest version of android. Plus I think ics will smooth out alot of the lagginess owners have been reporting.
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So you'd get a device you like less because it'll have a software update a few months faster?
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ICS is a major battery drain anyway.
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What? Possibly in issolated cases or on crappy ROMs, but that is one hell of an arogant blanket statement to make on an OS that is just rolling out onto handsets the past couple months. I saw vast improvements with it in many aspects, to include battery.
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Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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^^This guys got a point. I will defend ICS tooth and nail, but you will rarely find me belly aching about it being on the note. I absolutely want it, but I didn't buy a phone with it already on it. I do expect ATT/Samsung to deliver it to us, but don't think we'll see it untill fall. Anything sooner will be a great surprise, anything later and I'll start complaining. If all I wanted was ICS then I would have kept my Vibrant.
Time to DIY
I saw that this morning and welp... time to flash a custom ROM -_-
I was holding off waiting for the official to get here 'later this month'. I am disappoint. Oh well... Its not hard to root anyway.
Waiting for the next o.s. update for your smartphone is a never ending game and hasn't changed.
It's not real smart to buy something HOPING it will get the next update sooner rather than later. WIth smartphones, you'll always be disappointed .
I'm running ICS on another device I have and it's not that big of a deal. I'd certainly like it on my Note but it's not something I'm waiting for with every breath.
totally untrusted source. there is no samsung norway official page+samsung norway does not speak english!! anyways the youtube video interview, that samsung executive guy who was answering questions, where it says comments, it was written that the att note will be getting the update in may
doesn't Q2 start in like 2 weeks?
So tired of the *****ing and crying over ics go and take your note back and get the nexus if you want ics so bad I'm am completely happy with my note
Me Too!
This phone works great on GB!
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totally untrusted source. there is no samsung norway official page+samsung norway does not speak english!! anyways the youtube video interview, that samsung executive guy who was answering questions, where it says comments, it was written that the att note will be getting the update in may
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Lol so you believe YouTube comments? If the executive said that he lied.