Heavy Tether Users, please confirm. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What's your highest GB (data) usage in a month and has there been any drawbacks? Looking for throttling thresholds, random radio/connectivity drops, or actual examples of other potential risks. Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether.
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DNak206 said:
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether.
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So you don't want our input if we're rooted and using free tethering? They would throttle a 20gb/month video watcher the same as a 20gb/month tetherer.
And if I'm wrong in my assumption, then I can tell you my wife uses about 300-550mb per night playing Rift through my OpenGarden tether. Monthly, I would guess it averages about 6300mb usage, not including the random times I allow people to connect while waiting in school lines to pick up kids and at neighborhood parties (my friends are starting to loath AT&T).

XDAThunderbolter said:
So you don't want our input if we're rooted and using free tethering? They would throttle a 20gb/month video watcher the same as a 20gb/month tetherer.
And if I'm wrong in my assumption, then I can tell you my wife uses about 300-550mb per night playing Rift through my OpenGarden tether. Monthly, I would guess it averages about 6300mb usage, not including the random times I allow people to connect while waiting in school lines to pick up kids and at neighborhood parties (my friends are starting to loath AT&T).
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Thanks for allowing me to clarify, at this point, I'll certainly take all the input I can get but recently I started using tether pretty heavily due to photography for my kids sports and also acquiring an ipad. I finished last month with just under 8GB, to the point the MyVerizon both online and in the app still reads as being around 8GB even tho my cycle was supposed to reset 2 days ago. Because I went over 5GB or maybe even 6 or 7 of the 8 total GB I used last month were more than likely in the past week or so, I have a feeling my understanding of throttling is off. I have had my data conectivity be super shotty and in some cases, downloads and uploads are failing entirely.
We can obviously all speculate on whether they can see Wireless Tether (cheated, not paying) and such, but the usage doesn't lie. Hoping to speak to other users that actually use it heavily and their experiences as for how throttling works and if they experience any other subtle things to be aware of, that's all. Way more long winded than it needed to be, my bad on the novel.

I cleared 25 gig last month. No signs of throttling so far as I can tell.

Damn, 25GB, no ****... what are you streaming/tethering if I may ask, an xbox360/ps3?

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Damn, 25GB, no ****... what are you streaming/tethering if I may ask, an xbox360/ps3?
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I watched about 5 seasons of "The X Files", a movie or 2, and some "Breaking Bad".

the most i've done is nearly 20GB and that's with 3G. never got anything from verizon in regards to usage.
once 4G is available here i'm probably going to do a hell of a lot more then that and we'll see then.

i have 4g and ive used 5 gb in one day downloading a game and no throttling (rooted using wireless tether). to clarify "throttling" is when they slow down your internet because your using it too much. this happens regardless of whether or not your paying to tether because they do it for just the data you use on your phone as well, but sometimes it takes a while for them to catch it or they never even do. they cant tell that your using wireless tether specifically, but they can tell your using a lot of data so they will throttle you. if your worried about them charging you for going over your data limit, just remove the tethering feature and use wireless tether. then if you go over just tell them it was all on your phone and theres no way they can prove you wrong since according to them you cant be tethering since your not paying them for there services. thank god for rooting though eh?

DNak206 said:
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether.
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Please state your question in complete sentences using proper English.

mike.s said:
Please state your question in complete sentences using proper English.
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Wrote that from my phone dip**** and that wasn't a question, the larger question was addressed earlier in the thread.

DNak206 said:
Wrote that from my phone dip**** and that wasn't a question, the larger question was addressed earlier in the thread.
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no need to start a war by cursing (it's also against xda rules). Your sentence did not make sense (with or without shortened words). I recommend a better keyboard like swiftkey or swype if your current one is too hard to use. It just makes it harder to help when one has to guess what you are saying.

well they are doing something,as soon as I hit 20gigs full brakes down to 3g speed on 4g network,that was about 8 says ago,and now this morning gettin 15+ down in sioux falls
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yareally said:
no need to start a war by cursing (it's also against xda rules). Your sentence did not make sense (with or without shortened words). I recommend a better keyboard like swiftkey or swype if your current one is too hard to use. It just makes it harder to help when one has to guess what you are saying.
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Reading the sentence again:
"Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether."
Please only actual use cases (are you familiar w/ this term?, not USE as in to-use something, use-CASES.. examples, specifics, I think you missed how I intended that. No typos there but definitely could've been worded better.)
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals (self explanatory? Referring to people that are actually tethering in the same fashion, not someone that wants to paste in language from our agreements or can technically confirm Verizon can't see/prove our usage, but from other users actually doing what I'm doing.)
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether." (this one need explaining too? see above re: hypotheticals)
Given, the sentence wasn't written well but in seeing some of this Sam guys other posts, he apparently gets off by jumping in and offering majority of times criticism over actual substance to be helpful.

DNak206 said:
Reading the sentence again:
"Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether."
Please only actual use cases (are you familiar w/ this term?, not USE as in to-use something, use-CASES.. examples, specifics, I think you missed how I intended that. No typos there but definitely could've been worded better.)
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals (self explanatory? Referring to people that are actually tethering in the same fashion, not someone that wants to paste in language from our agreements or can technically confirm Verizon can't see/prove our usage, but from other users actually doing what I'm doing.)
Please only actual use cases not hypotheticals of actual rooted tethering (non-paying). Use Wireless Tether." (this one need explaining too? see above re: hypotheticals)
Given, the sentence wasn't written well but in seeing some of this Sam guys other posts, he apparently gets off by jumping in and offering majority of times criticism over actual substance to be helpful.
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Lol, calm down dude . I do agree with you that the other guy reminds me of the old guy in a neighborhood that screams at kids to very off his lawn. Sometimes he posts useful stuff, but mostly just angry stuff.

All good man, I'm calm. If I could just tether and feel "safe" about it (getting there, but still not 150% like I'd PREFER to be) and wish this headset mic worked..
Other than that, about to take off work and enjoy my 5 day!

so i take it we shouldnt use our phones to download PS3 games?

no idea if my input is pertinent, but here it is
Rooted/nonpaying, 28gb. was mostly from dual streaming MLG Anaheim starcraft last month. Did not experience any slowing down or notice.

squeakyl said:
no idea if my input is pertinent, but here it is
Rooted/nonpaying, 28gb. was mostly from dual streaming MLG Anaheim starcraft last month. Did not experience any slowing down or notice.
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i use it a lot for Left 4 Dead 1 & 2. damn games are still addicting.

If I were a hardcore gamer, I would swear by using a landline with an ethernet cable. I haven't really gamed on consoles lately, but I think networks like xbox live do some equalizing so those with exceptional pings can't one up those that don't so much.

yareally said:
If I were a hardcore gamer, I would swear by using a landline with an ethernet cable. I haven't really gamed on consoles lately, but I think networks like xbox live do some equalizing so those with exceptional pings can't one up those that don't so much.
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i dont have internet at home nor am i home much(just to sleep). when i do use my computer(laptop) its usually at the library. the wifi there is unbareably slow and loses signal often so i use pdanet with my TB.
i do all sorts of downloading with it as well as gaming.
its a pretty nice laptop at least. then again, for $1,600 it has to be.

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Tethering after VZW pulls t#e plug?

I am coming from a DX where TBH modded the NV files to use the stock hotspot application.
I was wondering if there has been any devs taking a look into this...
And by the way I DO NOT want to start a ethics war on tethering or not tethering...
Thank you
There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
yareally said:
There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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I have skimmed thru quite a few recent posts regarding tethering and I find none of them useful in answering my question. I see that many of the posts go on to get a smartass remark or two from someone who has not a clue about how to answer the question.
Kinda like what happened in this post.
So I would like a linky or a better answer.
Ohhhh, if you want a smartass answer, I could do far better....
That was only my polite, "look around the knowledge base because it's useful" answer that noobs seem to find insulting anyways.
If I really wanted to be insulting, I would tell you to RTFM . I help plenty of people with legitimate questions, feel free to look at my post history and see for yourself.
But really, I do agree the ways people say it tend to be rather blunt.
However, the overreactions to even sensible replies to search around are also just also just as bad, since there doesn't need to be a new posting always and some people just don't think before they make one and reminding them to do a little search I think helps (if done in a not so overly rude way). My initial post was not a slight against you but a word of advice that people will do what you just said, insult you and give you non-helpful replies.
IDK what kind of solution you are looking for, but there isn't a magical "Verizon will give you free unlimited tethering legitimately without extra cost option if you ask them really nicely" or a "I'll come right over to your house code and compile the most amazing tether app in the world that actually boosts your LTE speed beyond what Verizon gives you and does your homework when it's idle."
Instead of taking the defensive because someone asked if you looked around a little, perhaps clarifying your question in a way that shows that you actually searched (i.e. "I noticed there was this method to tether or that, but I don't really like those options") makes it clear to everyone you gave it an honest shot and also motivates people to want to help you more
It also keeps things on topic so you get the answer you want faster. Just for future reference.
I searched the TB forums and didn't really see anything on the subject. I only found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082585
Maybe there's more in the general Android forums, though I didn't find much there either. I could just suck at searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087475&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074992&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077029&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070477&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064246&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060549&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056647&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054866&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060701&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034262&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007537&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030818&highlight=tether
and many more (I stopped on page 6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=74208283&pp=25&page=6)
I recommend using advanced search and "search by post" not by title. You'll get more relevant info that way. If you happen to be an opera mobile or desktop user, you can make a custom search from http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=940, by hold pressing on the search bar for that page for mobile or right clicking for the desktop. It will then add it to your other custom searches for easy access
Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
I never used stock hotspot app because I never even try apps with monthly charges. what's the point of checking it out and potentially getting hooked when I'm absolutely certain that I will NOT pay monthly charge for that. I'd rather switch back to T-mobile
with that said, I'm using wifi tether as I write this. it took me a while to configure it because it wouldn't work out of box but it's free and well worth the price!
I've been busy lately and havent kept up with this...so Verizon shut down the free tethering apps, like "wifi tether for root" and others?
Not to throw this thread off topic or anything I just wanted to know how you got the H and # key's confused in the thread title as they are quite far apart. Again, sorry to everyone just kind of a weird mistake.
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/3...ireless-tether-asks-that-you-purchase-a-plan/
Doesn't CM7 provide an integrated tethering solution? That should be undetectable to Verizon.
If they are baking something into the gingerbread update to detect tethering apps (pun not intended but welcome), it won't find its way into the CM7 code.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
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I doubt anyone on a T-bolt can confirm since we're still getting free hotspot. Unless they are allowing official hotspot use but blocking tethering apps.
I suppose that would make sense if they're trying to get people hooked on the feature.
Yareally thanks for the links. I don't know if you own a xoom but I have yet been able to get the search feature to work in the xda site. Maybe you could find a link for that as well and post it for me.
I am not currently at home with access to my laptop where I have full availability to use the advanced search feature. So thanks again for making these links available in ones easy to find location.
As for the #.. I use thumb keyboard on t#e xoom and it is t#e result of a long press on t#e h key. I think you should be proud if yourself for being able to figure out what I meant to type.
No offence to anyone but some times when you all jump on people asses there may be extenuating circumstances.
Sry for your troubles. But I hope you rest good at night knowing that you have helped one soul find some good info.
The search feature using a web browser or using the application for xda? I've heard the application has lots of issues for anyone period with the search and since many seem to use it, it's probably the reason for lots of duplicate posts. If you mean browsing it on an internet browser, that seems new to me as far as I know.
I've never used it, I just browse using opera mobile (with a link to the thunderbolt forum on my speed dial and the search tied into the search bar next to the url bar).
Opera mobile still has an unresolved issue with LTE being throttled (max of like 150KB/s), but it's not a deal breaker for me at least compared to using the stock browser in terms of getting to where I want to go quickly and its tie-ins to the desktop browser.
No worries about the thread. Internet makes it hard at times to interpret someone's replies anyways since words can be taken many ways, lol.

[Q] How to fake wifi over 3g?

There are various apps/games that force you to use a wifi connection. On the go, especially for those with 4g phones, that is ridiculous. What app/hack for rooted users will spoof that wifi connection and trick the app into thinking it is on wifi when you are really on 3g/4g?
oops, double post
Yeah I've been wondering that too. If I can't play order & chaos over hspa then I don't want to play it at all
Up.up.up any chance?
Up!!!!! I want this too because i can't play order & chaos in hsdpa....please do this!!!
Ok well turns out there's a workaround for Order & Chaos... look at the market comments on it.
You leave wifi on but not connected to a network and it will work over the mobile network! Seems like quite an obvious thing for gameloft to miss...
Wow, that is hilarious. Tested and working.
Bump
Would still like to see if there is an answer for this for the many programs out there that are wifi only and did not make that mistake. I would like to use the new OnLive app while on the go.
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Would still like to see if there is an answer for this for the many programs out there that are wifi only and did not make that mistake. I would like to use the new OnLive app while on the go.
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yeah that is why i am looking for a hack that emulates the whfi on the i phone there is an app called my3g that does it .
neonhondakiller said:
yeah that is why i am looking for a hack that emulates the whfi on the i phone there is an app called my3g that does it .
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i couldnt find this? htc evo 4g on sprint
Is there any news? I need such option desperately...
looking for this to, this is the first thread I've actually read that doesnt have a massive stream of people asking "why would you want to do that?" its been driving me mental. I've been hunting pretty hard and turned up nothing so far, i wish i new enough about android code to try and do something myself
I once got ahold of a wifi-only app and eventually found where it was checking for wifi, and modded it to simply continue without running the check or returning the proper result.
YMMV though... apktool 1.4.2 was my weapon of choice; even though it's not officially released yet and it's not especially easy to use, it's certainly better than nothing.
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Anyone tried "App Shield"? Available in the Android Mkt Place and Root not needed...
Tangopro said:
Anyone tried "App Shield"? Available in the Android Mkt Place and Root not needed...
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This application has nothing to do with the problem stated.
Just stopping by to bump this thread a little, spending the holidays at the inlaws where wifi is less than 800kbps, but i have a nice fat 15mbps LTE connection. Yet I have to leave my phone for hours to download 600mb+ gameloft title via wifi.
I really hope to see a patch or program for this in the future.
this another example of something that is so easy to do on iphone (tweaking) and yet so hard to do on android..
Oh thank goodness there's somebody here to tell us Android phones suck. Thank you for visiting our lowly forum with the lofty intention of providing absolutely no help, at least you bumped this!
I'm presently using another method, which is also expensive (though not nearly as much, or as obtuse, as purchasing an iPhone)... You need two phones, though, one to view apps and the other to load from the network and serve as a wifi hotspot... Yeah.
I doubt this would be hard to do, it's just that nobody has bothered with it yet...
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Found it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104120
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Found it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104120
Do I win? What do I win?
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So which trick do you use exaclty ?
Xposed module
pcm2a said:
There are various apps/games that force you to use a wifi connection. On the go, especially for those with 4g phones, that is ridiculous. What app/hack for rooted users will spoof that wifi connection and trick the app into thinking it is on wifi when you are really on 3g/4g?
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In case someone bumps into this old thread, check out Fake Wifi Connection.

[Q] Chromebook/hotspot tethering/user agent

I know I'm not special, xda, but I am confused. I've spent the last couple days browsing and searching for hours on end trying to answer my questions and now my head is spinning yet still empty...so here are a few questions I'd really appreciate getting help answering. Thanks in advance and sorry for adding to the flood of redundant questions.
My desire is to figure out if I can successfully tether my AT&T data connection to a Chromebook.
I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted my Atrix and installed CWM using the following guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 I know the wifi hotspot works now.
My fear is that I will get caught tethering. Has AT&T's method of identifying tetherers been definitively identified yet? I read in one spot that they use your browser's user agent so I changed my browser's user agent and have successfully tethered (have yet to be caught) to my PC. Is this indeed the method AT&T uses? If so, how would this work with a Chromebook? Does it have a user agent? Can it be changed? How? I've looked for these answers but haven't seen them. I grant that I am terrible at this.
To move on to a different subject, I'm also considering getting the Atrix's laptop dock instead of a Chromebook.
Firstly, does the tethering patch I implemented allow me to use my phone's data plan with this dock without paying for tethering? I think that I've read that tethering works with webtop but it's remained unclear whether webtop only refers to the docking with a monitor, keyboard and mouse or if it refers to the laptop dock, too. I did read in one place that you could use the laptop dock but only with wifi. I wasn't sure if this was the latest intel on this subject.
Secondly, I'd be interested in hearing any opinions you guys might have on this choice (which one should I get?). I'm having a hard time deciding... I like the idea of a dock and it would be much cheaper but am afraid its implementation wont get developed more, although I am excited to see if Cyanogenmod does anything with it.
Thanks again for your time and patience.
As far as you getting caught tethering, I think it would only arouse suspicion if your data usage was extremely high. I not abusing data usage is a good way to stay under the radar.
There's people that stream movies, download stuff, and all other nonsense. That, in my opinion, is abusing data.
Use your home wifi and home laptop/computer for that sort of stuff, I say.
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Thank you for your input. I've been under that impression but then heard about the user agent thing and it does seem odd that AT&T would use such an unsophisticated method of testing, doesn't it?
It can't be the browser agent, users can change their browser agent to match desktop browsers. I myself have shared out my wifi in the past on several occasions and have at some points used it for an entire 8hr work day. I have never received a letter from at&t and have never gotten any adverse texts from them for doing so. I think the reason for this is because I am on a 2gb a month plan and they don't bother with those types of accounts (although they may start looking / monitoring them in the near future). I have not tried to change my apn, packet sizes or spoof my ipaddress so they can't trace where my packets are coming from. I have also used a different browser agent but again no texts, calls, emails or dirty letters from at&t.
I do think they are closely monitoring accounts that have "unlimited data" plans as they are the ones that they can make the most money off of. The reason I say this is because with a 2gb /mo plan most people would tend to stay below the 2gb limit where as unlimited accounts would use a significantly more amount than that. Not saying that all people with unlimited accounts do, but at&t doesn't care about that.
I believe to detect tethering, they are using a combination of different methods including packet identification which there isn't much you can do about and apn activity. I would be interested to see if someone with an unlimited account would setup tor change their apn and switch their packets to match the size that android produces and see if they get nailed.
Anyway there is a pretty long thread already about this same very subject so I would highly encoure you to do some reading of that thread and post in it rather than continuing yet another thread on the same subject. For reference the thread is called At&t crackdown, have you been served?
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IMO, this question is better asked in the "YOU JUST GOT SERVED" thread.
I found that thread highly speculative. I was hoping to distance my question from that in order to not receive speculative answers. Unless of course there was no certain answer to be had, which seems the case.
Old thread but I've just gotten a chromebook pixel and was wondering the same thing.
I do, however, tether constantly to my macbook and have never had any worries because I route all traffic through a vpn. So tmobile can only see encrypted traffic. Also, because Android devices can user vpn software, there should be no possible way of knowing which traffic is coming from what device.

Can our phones get hacked by random people?

Ok so I have a 3D on my line which belongs to my sister. Well she works at the mall and some Indian guy that used to work for Sprint is telling her he hacks into her phone all the time and uses her internet and that if he wanted to he can access her photos too. So is this possible or is he just bs'in to spark coversations with her? I'm about ready to go over to her job and confront him. I find that sort of behavior creepy and intolerable! Any1 has any idea??
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I don't know if it's possible, but that is creepy and disgusting. If that happened to my family member, I would not put up with it.
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You need to go to the mall and take care of business...
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I'm starting to believe its possible. She just called me from her work phone to tell me she pulled out her battery bcuz it freaked her out and he asks what did she do bcuz he no longer has internet access. I might catch a case tonight I'm highly upset..
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idk man, you need to do some dental work.
I don't know if a "random" person could hack a phone. But:
1. Is the phone rooted? That would give a person more ability to do something bad.
2. There are "spy" software out there. But the guy would have had to have a few minutes alone with the phone.
3. Maybe install malware through an E-mail or text message.
But to use her phone for Internet access sounds pretty weak. Easier and better methods of doing that at a mall where public WIFI is all around.
Bottom line, if you are actually concerned, just have your sister do a factory restore, that wipes everything and then reinstall her apps one at a time validating all are suppose to be on her phone.
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I don't know if a "random" person could hack a phone. But:
1. Is the phone rooted? That would give a person more ability to do something bad.
2. There are "spy" software out there. But the guy would have had to have a few minutes alone with the phone.
3. Maybe install malware through an E-mail or text message.
But to use her phone for Internet access sounds pretty weak. Easier and better methods of doing that at a mall where public WIFI is all around.
Bottom line, if you are actually concerned, just have your sister do a factory restore, that wipes everything and then reinstall her apps one at a time validating all are suppose to be on her phone.
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1. No
2. I know about the spy software stuff. I don't know if the guy ever had access to the phone. She did say she bought a case from him b4 and i wouldn't put it past her to put it on a strangers hands in her times of frustration. She's always having problems and going to someone for help.
3. Probably
And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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You should hard reset his face . Just kidding. Violence is not the answer. Can't we all just get along.
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Yea f that. Reset her phone and then reset that guys face
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Just check she hasn't got portable wifi Hotspot switched on on her phone.
I sometimes use that on my phone when I'm out to connect family members phones and laptops to the internet.
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abdeviation said:
This thread is hilarious
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this thread is exactly the kind Papa Smurf posted about...basic networking rules...the ONLY way he can intercept her wireless internet signal is if she is connected to the malls wifi... thing is i personally have programs that will allow me to spoof ANY gateway that i am connected to and collect cookies, not to mention use them. i have a program that if i connect to a server that she is connected to i can kill her internet signal... i have one also to where i can connect into her phone or computer.. bottom line... if its wireless and a public server...it becomes public info... so if she stays off the malls wifi and uses just her providers internet connection then she will be fine...unless he clones her phone which he would have to steal first .... now.. prompoting violence is childish ...its not what the forum is for...if anything reprt the guy to the police and give him a record that will ride with him...
RayTrue04 said:
I'm starting to believe its possible. She just called me from her work phone to tell me she pulled out her battery bcuz it freaked her out and he asks what did she do bcuz he no longer has internet access. I might catch a case tonight I'm highly upset..
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Ok try this and check if it works.....post back the results.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gurkedev.wifiprotector
If you want it free, the developer posted a free version for XDA users here ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350941
If that Indian guy (not me ) is using android phone or PC, he surely is using apps like FaceNiff, Cain & Abel, ANTI, ettercap, DroidSheep, NetCut etc....
So this app should help but it will not work to its full potential as your Sisters phone is not rooted.
Or you can tell her to disable internet or wifi on her phone.
P.S You said the guy used to work for Sprint, Is your Sis using a Sprint Phone?
Is her phone CIQ free?
wloftus had it down.
The only other thing I can think of is he has get password to a security app that can backup pictures and whatnot.
Bottom line is this sounds like a classic harassment case. Get him to text her about this for evidence, go to the police, he gets arrested and the girl is protected by a no contact order. Pretty simple.
wloftus said:
this thread is exactly the kind Papa Smurf posted about...basic networking rules...the ONLY way he can intercept her wireless internet signal is if she is connected to the malls wifi... thing is i personally have programs that will allow me to spoof ANY gateway that i am connected to and collect cookies, not to mention use them. i have a program that if i connect to a server that she is connected to i can kill her internet signal... i have one also to where i can connect into her phone or computer.. bottom line... if its wireless and a public server...it becomes public info... so if she stays off the malls wifi and uses just her providers internet connection then she will be fine...unless he clones her phone which he would have to steal first .... now.. prompoting violence is childish ...its not what the forum is for...if anything reprt the guy to the police and give him a record that will ride with him...
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I've hope it's obvious that I was joking about the violence as I do think the police should get involved if this guy is harassing her. The implication from the op is that this guy is doing this from a distance so the wifi hot spot does not seem to be the way he is doing it. Since he worked for sprint, he could be using a back door of some sort.
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RayTrue04 said:
1. No
2. I know about the spy software stuff. I don't know if the guy ever had access to the phone. She did say she bought a case from him b4 and i wouldn't put it past her to put it on a strangers hands in her times of frustration. She's always having problems and going to someone for help.
3. Probably
And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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its not possible - andvwhen he works for sprint, you should go to his boss.
when he touched her mobile phone, you can go to court (when you want to)
has she enebled usb-debugging/adb access? disable it.
check all installed user apps if there is dome suspicious with ****loaads of permissions (camera, file access, microphone, etc)
lol enough to kick this guy in the ass with your rights
mnomaanw said:
Ok try this and check if it works.....post back the results.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gurkedev.wifiprotector
If you want it free, the developer posted a free version for XDA users here ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350941
If that Indian guy (not me ) is using android phone or PC, he surely is using apps like FaceNiff, Cain & Abel, ANTI, ettercap, DroidSheep, NetCut etc....
So this app should help but it will not work to its full potential as your Sisters phone is not rooted.
Or you can tell her to disable internet or wifi on her phone.
P.S You said the guy used to work for Sprint, Is your Sis using a Sprint Phone?
Is her phone CIQ free?
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She doesn't connect to public wifi shes on sprints network so i doubt that app would help. I just had her do a hard reset on it. Hopefully that helps idk.. And yes its a Sprint phone Evo 3D completely stock on the latest software htc released.
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e3d said:
its not possible - andvwhen he works for sprint, you should go to his boss.
when he touched her mobile phone, you can go to court (when you want to)
has she enebled usb-debugging/adb access? disable it.
check all installed user apps if there is dome suspicious with ****loaads of permissions (camera, file access, microphone, etc)
lol enough to kick this guy in the ass with your rights
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He no longer works for them he used to.
Well if anything I'm just tryna get his whole name because the Sprint rep last night wanted to flag him and start a case. So far only know first name so I have to wait till I go again this week.
I doubt she would enable usb debugging she's not that kind of girl to know what that is. All she do is calls, text, fb, and some web browsing at the most..
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Do any of you know anything about software at all? there is only one way to get into the phone and that is through the bluetooth. Other than that, very unlikely someone IN A MALL COULD DO THAT! there are hundreds of phones. plus, one threat like that to start off is subject to be terminated from any position he is in. HE likely got fired from sprint because he acts like he can do things he has no idea about.
However, 99.9% chance there is NO WAY the stupid small penis indian man can get into her phone. but one fact is that his face needs punched more than a few times... just make sure no one rats you out. make sure there is no one that sees you smash his face in. If the Indian doesn't learn a lesson now he'll just keep playing this game with everyone he walks into. He needs to learn one way or another.
Oh, I'm being nice too. If we were in any other country. he'd just have a bullet through his head.
However, I shouldn't even have said anything about the bluetooth part... but everyone needs to understand.. this is a topic we shouldn't even talk about. the reason is that kids that have no lives will use this information to attempt to find ways to spy on their gf's and stuff because they are low life fools.
anyway, to end this off.. I do thank everyone in here for being valued members of this forum... Remember do things responsibly. Anyone caught in here violating any law or creeping on others should be banned without question and legally should be held responsible for their actions.
to finish it completely off. the indian guy is a creep. he was fired from sprint for the same bs he doing to her. report him and have him fired again. PS. there is nothing in my comment that is racist, wrong, bad, blahblahblah. I'm a perfect little angel.
runcool said:
Do any of you know anything about software at all? there is only one way to get into the phone and that is through the bluetooth. Other than that, very unlikely someone IN A MALL COULD DO THAT! there are hundreds of phones. plus, one threat like that to start off is subject to be terminated from any position he is in. HE likely got fired from sprint because he acts like he can do things he has no idea about.
However, 99.9% chance there is NO WAY the stupid small penis indian man can get into her phone. but one fact is that his face needs punched more than a few times... just make sure no one rats you out. make sure there is no one that sees you smash his face in. If the Indian doesn't learn a lesson now he'll just keep playing this game with everyone he walks into. He needs to learn one way or another.
Oh, I'm being nice too. If we were in any other country. he'd just have a bullet through his head.
However, I shouldn't even have said anything about the bluetooth part... but everyone needs to understand.. this is a topic we shouldn't even talk about. the reason is that kids that have no lives will use this information to attempt to find ways to spy on their gf's and stuff because they are low life fools.
anyway, to end this off.. I do thank everyone in here for being valued members of this forum... Remember do things responsibly. Anyone caught in here violating any law or creeping on others should be banned without question and legally should be held responsible for their actions.
to finish it completely off. the indian guy is a creep. he was fired from sprint for the same bs he doing to her. report him and have him fired again. PS. there is nothing in my comment that is racist, wrong, bad, blahblahblah. I'm a perfect little angel.
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well, you can not only go into it via wifi. so my question: do you know anything? (exploits, etc)
if the mall has a open wlan, she should use secure sites only "https://blablabla.com" only... it is possible to hijack traffic, for example in malls "man in the middle method" (do not know why i know this.... )
another way to secure her phone is, to deactivate the installation of unsigned / non-market apps.
also, a password or sth other to unlock isnt a bad idea.
so, have fun - btw, you could ask that question for every android handset, op
e3d said:
well, you can not only go into it via wifi. so my question: do you know anything? (exploits, etc)
if the mall has a open wlan, she should use secure sites only "https://blablabla.com" only... it is possible to hijack traffic, for example in malls "man in the middle method" (do not know why i know this.... )
another way to secure her phone is, to deactivate the installation of unsigned / non-market apps.
also, a password or sth other to unlock isnt a bad idea.
so, have fun - btw, you could ask that question for every android handset, op
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There are WiFi sniffing tools on android. There are WiFi spoofing tools on android.
Possibility is there, change Gmail password never hurts.
But seriously, no sharing WiFi with other people and logging into private bank/Facebook/ other sites where your logged in with 50 other people on open WiFi. That stuff can be picked up, username/passwords.
Intimidation is the best answer...big guy comes up "alright who's the yutz messing with MY sister!"

I'm in a world of pain. Please help.

Trying to keep this brief and simple, circumstances have caused me to be spending the next month living at home with my mother and stepfather, neither of which I get on with. At all. Infact they've decided that as a sanction for me being an adult and refusing to blindly contribute a frankly extortionate amount of money to their bills for staying here for one month, they've decided to hit me where it hurts and take away the internet by unplugging the router alltogether. ****ing idiots.
I'm a techie. I'm a resourceful one too, I'm making use of a BT-Wifi hotspot that's being broadcast from a nearby neighbor (It's free to BT Internet customers!) by using my S2 as a tether, and my girlfriend is abroad at the moment so talking to her (especially over this ****ing month of horribleness) is exceptionally prioritised within my life. All's well and I'm able to use the internet (hence here I am typing this to you) however this signal is rather weak and is tending to drop out a lot.
I'm thinking if I place as much bare metal around my phone as I can it'll somehow help amplify or at least stabilise the signal (my rationale being when i was a kid, using an indoor tv aerial i used to get clearer picture by rigging up metal coathangers and ensuring they're in contact with the metal on the aerial)
Will this work? Any ideas on how I can keep this signal would be GREATLY appreciated!
The internet is an actual requirement for me, not an optional extra
Can anyone hear that sound... ?
jangomango said:
Can anyone hear that sound... ?
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World's tiniest violin?
Dude I don't need that. My brother just got stabbed. I need internet.
Thread Closed, let me include a few points also.
1. Dont post questions in development
2. This is a SGS2 forum, not a hardware mod forum
3. Please stop swearing, putting this *** in the middle of a word is still swearing.
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