This is a post from the Xperia play forum about battery life. Since the new Xperia phones shares a common software maybe the Mini is affected too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238230
I'm gonna try and see if there is any difference for me on the sk17i.
good idea
nice, please let me know if there will be some difference for sk17i
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well i tried it, and im sorry to say that ... but it doent change anything
Let me here give you and example of how bad is this phone battery situation is .
I have an HTC HD2 running android 2.3.3 and it has a 1GHZ processor which is the same with the xperia mini pro i bought , on the other hand the HD2 has 4.3" screen while the mini pro is only 3" so I already nticed after using the mini pro that its consuming so much battery than the HD2 but i wanted to be more specific so below are the details
HD2 Battery is 1230mA, xperia mini pro 1200mA ( Almost the same )
so I left both of them in idle for 8 hours ( wifi is on both have the same apps like facebook , google+, twitter, with the same update settings, )
the HD2 dropped from 82% to 71% in 8 hours in idle (Lost 11% )
The mini pro dropped from 100% to 50% in 8 hours in idle ( lost 50%)
for me this is a big gap between the two devices and to be honest i expected the HD2 to have a shorted battery life conidering its much more powerfull device and its 2 years old with the same 2 years old battery.
and i also noticed that during the test:
the HD2 never exceeded 10mAh consumption at all
the mini pro rarely went below 50mAh and the minimum was 26mAh
so i guess there is something that eats the battery during the idle time and it is taking alot of it comparing the two devices.
in fact when i bought the mini pro i wanted smaller device that will have a better battery life , but now its totally the opposit which make me confused.
iwosh88 said:
nice, please let me know if there will be some difference for sk17i
thanks
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Maybe very little actually.. but I'm gonna keep at manual.. no need to auto scan when I'm locked to one operator anyway.
ahm09 said:
well i tried it, and im sorry to say that ... but it doent change anythin
Let me here give you and example of how bad is this phone battery situation is .
I have an HTC HD2 running android 2.3.3 and it has a 1GHZ processor which is the same with the xperia mini pro i bought , on the other hand the HD2 has 4.3" screen while the mini pro is only 3" so I already nticed after using the mini pro that its consuming so much battery than the HD2 but i wanted to be more specific so below are the details
HD2 Battery is 1230mA, xperia mini pro 1200mA ( Almost the same )
so I left both of them in idle for 8 hours ( wifi is on both have the same apps like facebook , google+, twitter, with the same update settings, )
the HD2 dropped from 82% to 71% in 8 hours in idle (Lost 11% )
The mini pro dropped from 100% to 50% in 8 hours in idle ( lost 50%)
for me this is a big gap between the two devices and to be honest i expected the HD2 to have a shorted battery life conidering its much more powerfull device and its 2 years old with the same 2 years old battery.
and i also noticed that during the test:
the HD2 never exceeded 10mAh consumption at all
the mini pro rarely went below 50mAh and the minimum was 26mAh
so i guess there is something that eats the battery during the idle time and it is taking alot of it comparing the two devices.
in fact when i bought the mini pro i wanted smaller device that will have a better battery life , but now its totally the opposit which make me confused.
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I have been struggling a bit too with battery life. But with my current settings I have 21hours since charge and I'm on 65%. (so thats about 2.1% each hour) But thats not standby only. I have been using connectbot, some browsing, facebooking, whatsapp.
wifi on all the time and push enabled for activesyncemail, facebook+googleplus+twitter notifications, whatsapp messages and gmail.
I have disabled 3G and set my operator manually and most important of all I have unchecked the Allow wireless network-option in Location and security.
Did attach two screenshots showing the battery usage. I had to connect the USB-cable to take those (with ddms) so it did charge for a minute or so (same thing abit earlier so it shows a small charge period for 1-2 min)
A bit funny also that it shows battery gain in two places (which wasn't when I had the device USB-plugged) and also it looks like something has been keeping the phone awake while the screen hasn't been on.
But as you say it's not very often down to 10mAh as you get on the HD2. (3rd screenshot)
Smiley76 said:
I have been struggling a bit too with battery life. But with my current settings I have 21hours since charge and I'm on 65%. (so thats about 2.6% each hour) But thats not standby only. I have been using connectbot, some browsing, facebooking, whatsapp.
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WOW i really envy you now , i should find whats making mine drop that fast in idle while yours can last that long while using it. i will check the settings you specified and report back the results
I attached a screenshot of the HD2 idle usage
Wifi
I've found that the culprit for mine is the Wifi.
I went from ~8 hours to 32,5 hours(is just about to turn itself off) by turning wifi off and on only when I used it.
This is with me watching a 40 min mkv show, and playing myth defence for 30 minutes and a little talk and sms and searching the market.
Wifi location function has been off from the start.
It's a bit weird because on the x10 mini it turned off wifi when the screen timed out and it held for about the same time, so maybe it's a "feature" they forgot to implement on this phone.
On normal usage mine lasts max of 2 days and thats pushing it. Normal use means I do browsing on it via wifi for maybe 10 minutes at a time per hour I guess. Will sync to wifi every 15 mins for 1 minute then off (via Green Power app). To help the thing, I am downclocked to 122Mhz on idle, max to 800+ on load via SetCPU, always on minimum brightness. Playing with autostarts too to disable apps to run and eat memory as well.
There is a higher capacity battery thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232065
But we're still waiting for somebody to go and test it.
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I've found that the culprit for mine is the Wifi.
I went from ~8 hours to 32,5 hours(is just about to turn itself off) by turning wifi off and on only when I used it.
This is with me watching a 40 min mkv show, and playing myth defence for 30 minutes and a little talk and sms and searching the market.
Wifi location function has been off from the start.
It's a bit weird because on the x10 mini it turned off wifi when the screen timed out and it held for about the same time, so maybe it's a "feature" they forgot to implement on this phone.
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Strange. I almost the opposite behaviour, especially if I leave 3G on.
hello guys..
this my last battery life with wifi on,playing some game,sms,OC to 1113mhz,smartass governor,,UV,backlight off...
ahm09 said:
WOW i really envy you now , i should find whats making mine drop that fast in idle while yours can last that long while using it. i will check the settings you specified and report back the results
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Im still on the same charge 1d16h and i used it alot yesterday evening.
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Im still on the same charge 1d16h and i used it alot yesterday evening.
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At 10% the phone suddenly dropped to 1% and it did shutdown.
Something is draining the battery during the sleep and i cant find it.
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At 10% the phone suddenly dropped to 1% and it did shutdown.
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Yes, this thing happens to me, 30% them immediately 1% and stays on for maybe 2-3 mins then dies (when in heavy use). I will recalibrate the battery stats when the phone is fully cycle charged (drained to dead, and charge on AC overnight). Hopefully should fix the issue.
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Something is draining the battery during the sleep and i cant find it.
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Check the battery usage what consumes it (Settings, About Phone, Battery use).
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Yes, this thing happens to me, 30% them immediately 1% and stays on for maybe 2-3 mins then dies (when in heavy use). I will recalibrate the battery stats when the phone is fully cycle charged (drained to dead, and charge on AC overnight). Hopefully should fix the issue.
Check the battery usage what consumes it (Settings, About Phone, Battery use).
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yeah. it died again at about 10%, I did plug the charger and switched on the phone and it went directly to 10% again. Unplugged it and it died after a few mins. Did pull out the battery and inserted it again and now it started to behave correctly starting from 1%.
Another thing I have noticed is that when it reaches 100% it starts to discharge until it goes down to 95% then it charges again (quite normal behavior) but the phone still shows 100%. So it could be down at 95% when you disconnect it but it starts to tick down from 100%. I did check the kernel source and it was a comment there that it should show 100% while still charging in that mode.
It's possible to see the real value when using adb logcat|grep charge and also betterbatterystats shows the real value instead of the 100%.
thanks for the tip will try that. i get that same thing too, dies at 30% but when charged, it goes up at 30% immediately hehe... well, i didn't went to extent remove the battery though. what i do know is to have "Battery Monitor" sound some notification at 3425mA. At that rating, that just means I have some time to look for the cable and charge it.
Side by side, the st15i screen is significantly brighter than the st18i screen at the same brightness level. Though the st18i has a higher resolution, its colors appear more washed out, in a way though that is easy on the eyes. The st15i seems to be brighter and perhaps that is hurting the battery life.
Upon further testing, it appears the auto brightness feature of the stock rom is doing this.
With both devices in a dark environment, the st18i appeared brighter, with the same brightness settings.
Unfortunately, there doesnt seem to be a way to turn off auto brightness on the stock rom.
My mini pro's battery last much longer then it did on my old phone galaxy s2 so I have not a problem with battery
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how long does it take for your mini-pro to fully charge when is on?
2 hours and i have 13% from dead and i on to charge it.. i killed all apps...
This there something wrong?
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thanks for the tip will try that. i get that same thing too, dies at 30% but when charged, it goes up at 30% immediately hehe... well, i didn't went to extent remove the battery though. what i do know is to have "Battery Monitor" sound some notification at 3425mA. At that rating, that just means I have some time to look for the cable and charge it.
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I'm currently on almost 2 days since charge and on 8%. And just when I started writing this it did just go down to 1% and a warning that battery is almost dead.
So it become 2% "better" ;-)
But I'm still happy with almost 2d with mixed usage and standby (wifi,push etc all the time).
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can anyone who is lucky enough to have a Hero already comment on the battery life?
i find that the 1.5 port i have on my Polaris tears through the battery like i have never seen before. (even with all widgets disabled)
don't forget the hero has a 1350 battery fitted as standard
i have no problems with my hero and battery life....so far
As long as you dont enable GPS its fine. I get through the day with about 1/4 left.
And I Browse through wifi for about 1 hr on it. few calls, lots of txts. Few games. few apps like wifi fixer, locale
thanks for the info...
The battery life is better then my Touch HD and deffinetly better then my Diamond, and even when I keep wifi running I can get through a day without trouble,
I'm really surprised how long it lasts, wasn't expected at all,
Imagine how good it will be when an 1500mah or higher battery comes out
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
Aqrab said:
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
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No, its thinner but longer. The HD is Shorter but fatter.
One thing I would add about battery life, and that is that when on standby it is excellent.
My Hero came off charge yesterday at about 11am and essentially sat on my desk barely being touched for the rest off the day - a couple of phone calls, a text message, and a few emails. According to the meter on the phone status, I'm at 70%, which means I'd probably have no qualms picking it up and going out now without worrying too much about my battery life.
On my G1, I know that had I left the phone for 24 hours on standby, I'd probably be down to less than 25% by now.
Regards,
Dave
I have not had my Hero long enough to make much of a comment on battery life though I had nothing to complain about until this morning.
I went to bed with about half battery life indicated and I just left the phone. When I got up this morning it had low battery - very unexpected.
I left WiFi off but I have left most settings at their default which means that the phone will be auto syncing my Google account for instance. Can anyone. suggest anything that will help me?
Thanks
My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, to be honest, anything is possible! I dont have amazing reception at home but I still think that was unusual battery drain. Has your phone been constantly connected? I know mine is all the time because of the auto sync with Google.
I guess so - I'm getting 3 bars HSDPA where it is currently sitting, so I guess the 3G signal is sufficiently strong for it to stay on 3G.
Regards,
Dave
To save more power -
Goto 'settings' > Wireless controls > Mobile Network settings - then switch off 'enable always-on mobile' and if you can 'Data roaming'
You may have other apps that constantly check and refresh, change them to check at longer intervals - like twitter.
I can still browse internet and Market fine this way and battery time is extended.
Hi peeps
had my hero for about 1 month now this is second hand set and so far battery life is good about 2-3 days light use on idle i get 6-7days which i think is prtty good for what it dose on normal use i get 1-2 days
I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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yeah it true its better to keep them topped up but for most people thats not alway possible. And in past i have let batterries go be low that and still got like 18months out of them
Wonder why but my HTC hero battery life not very good at all
doesnt last even a day with hardly any serious usage....maybe 30 mins wifi browsing, 30 mins phone browsing, less than 30 texts and maybe 10 mins call,
i had an app called battery status (full version) i wonder if this has been causing the problem....
its hard to effectively test the phone due to diff usage paterns ..any one had any prob with this particular app?
Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
There may be battery performance improvements in the next update. My battery life is actually stellar. I set Timescape to update every 3 hrs and have brightness at about 75%. Off the charger at about 7am and at midnight that night I'm usually at around 40%. That's plenty good enough for me.
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Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
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I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
According to me any phone u buy will have same battery life or there is 70% Probability to have worst battery life. X10 has one the best battery life amongst all smartphones
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I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours). I checked what's been eating it and it said "Cell Standby" and "Display". My brightness is on the lowest possible and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth is constantly off. I'll check that Timescape stuff and try to get the App Killer from the Market... (if my device even had a market!).
nah this device is ****ed up ...
sony homepage says that standby time is around 450 hours .... (more then 17 days!)
i dont have timescape on autoupdate - the only thing i do is gmail push and i get 1 and maybe 1/2 day(s) of standy time (depends if i make 1 call or not )
the update should increase it a lot i think
btw if some1 has a 2nd phone please try this:
charge it fully and then turn it off completely ... after 17 days turn it on ... my bet is it wont turn on coz the akku is totally empty...
I have no Wi-Fi at my hotel and I don't have a data plan. How on earth does it drain this much battery. I'm gonna go turn off every app and try another night just on standby.
Have a read of these...
X10 Power Usage
Battery life improvment thread
Battery Life Guide - Worth a read if you are having issues.
Jesus, what a difference a tweak makes. (Battery)
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours).
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Good question for you actually, how long have you had the phone? my first 4-5 charges were appauling but it quickly got better and now i could not be happier. more often than not getting 7am - 11pm the next day (whats that, 40 hours or so?) out of one charge, with plenty of go left.
Mine is running RB##26 firmware, rooted and a chunk of apps deleted though.
When i first got mine it was a bit poo, remember for the first 5 or so charges to let the battery go down pretty low and it will improve battery life.
Get runcpu and you're golden.
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Sounds like you're running 014 firmware - I had the exact same problem until I updated to 020. The whole battery usage profile changed and one hour of standby only uses up 1-2%.
yeah, the 020 u/g makes a difference. I've rooted and overclocked mine, heavy usage on 3g can drain the battery in c12 hours but more than adequate for general usage
I'm a big user. Even with my G1, I was happy with a day's use. Anyone who thinks they're gonna get days of use without a charge is kidding themselves. A smart phone with a big screen us gonna suck juice regardless of what you do. As many an XDA user will tell you, keep your charger or at least the cable with you wherever you are. With FW026 it did help a little, but if you need life from your battery you really do need to sacrifice some of your widgets or updates.
MrZ
Today my battery have gone to 10% in about 10/11 hours, i'm using sip and wireless are active all day, even when it are on standby, installed some apps and played some games, some calls, its good enough, sometimes i get 2 days, depends on what you do, you can do some tricks...
Update and FIX!
My phone is no longer draining massive amount of batt life when idle (3-5% after 7 hours of idle), android system usage is now down to 5-15% instead of 78-97% from before.
My fixes.
1. Turn off data syncing
2. Turn off wifi while on the road (so wifi doesn't constantly look for signals).
3. Clear memory
Yes, att installs a lot of bloatware that constantly update for changes.
If killing those services AND disabling data syncing doesn't help your problem, then you have a kernel problem (like myself).
If this is the case, do the following:
1. Take phone back to att and get a replacement
OR
2. Re-flash your android with the STOCK kernel found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
OR
3. Reflash with cognition x2 (reported to solve a member's problem, I didn't try this myself).
NOTE** This will root your phone, you will NOT get the exclamation mark during boot up, but kernel counter may be at "1" after this process.
Re-flashing my phone AND applying the three tricks I mentioned above worked for me..finally my phone is no longer crippled with crappy battery life and recharging is A LOT faster now.
I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
Wifi on, application sync on, GPS off, brightness at 25%, using live wallpaper (the windmill). No active apps on. Downloaded aim, epocrates, battery monitor, cpu spy, and os monitor..rest of the apps are stock.
Update
According to my CPU spy
For the past hour that the phone was in idle
2:20mins at 1200mhz
4:52mins at 1000mhz
8:33 at 800mhz
1:28 at 500mhz
10:11 at 200mhz
33:36 in deep sleep
Currently Android CPU usage is @ 97%, display time of 7mins(2%)
2h 30mins since last charge (97% charge)..current power is 79%. Did nothing but idling and checking battery life.
So...that's 30 mins out of the hour in which my idling cellphone was hacking the pentagon....
Also the cellphone is a tiny bit warm to the touch (not cold)
I have 35% battery life remaining and have been unplugged for nearly 11 hours. This is significantly better than what I was getting with a Thunderbolt on Verizon, where I was needing to charge after about six hours of use. 11 hours and 35% remaining isn't the best in the world, but it's only been two days. The phone needs a few days to charge and discharge to determine true battery stats and will probably get better.
Being that this is your first Android battery life will not seem great but let it settle in for a few days it should get better.
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Used Nexus S, LG Thrill, Samsung Focus, Infuse, This is the best Android phone for battery. I have 40% left with normal use (emails, calls, music, read news) at the end of the day. Huraaaaa
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I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
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If you only got the phone yesterday, its way to early to make any judgments on battery life. Battery needs at least 3-5 days to settle in and build consistent battery stats.
Also, what are you settings? Auto Brightness, Bluetooth, GPS, auto syn(exchange emal, gmail, facebook, etc). If your not using these, they should be OFF. It's easy to manually refresh email, etc.
I've seen some people reporting very high Android OS(over 50%) but still getting solid battery life.
I'm at 1hr display time, heavy texting. 72% left, been unplugged for 12hrs
no people what this guy is talking about is the android os bug. i have it too. hopefully an upgrade or different rom will fix it. my phone has been unplugged 11 hours with only 1 1/2 hour display but android os has ran for 52 minutes and now im at 32% battery life. once this bug gets worked out the battery life will be amazing.
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
I think it's the system os, not the hardware. There were a few times when the battery didn't discharge itself at 7%/hour (had it idle for 3 hours and it went down like 2%).
And yes, everything is turned off except the sync app data and wifi. There's no option to turn off 4g btw. It's just weird how sometimes it's in this mode of power drainage, and then sometimes it doesn't drain much..but most of the time, it's draining.
I seriously doubt the phone can only run 2.5 hours worth of heavy usage or 12 hours of standby (it should last days!). If this is "normal" for android, then maybe I should have a visit back to att and exchange for an iphone (and I really don't to!)
Sledutah said:
I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
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that is freakin incredible. i am gonna try a restore or something im down to 28% life. 1:40 display android os 1 hour.
can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
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I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
VFO said:
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I agree - as I said in the Android OS drain thread, even in "good" situations, Android OS displays way high on our systems. I think it's a reporting bug.
I dropped 2% in 5.5 hours completely idle (sitting on my shelf) last night - Android OS was at over 60%. It seems that so far for me, the higher it is, the better my battery life is.
I drop around 15-20% in 9 hours of being mostly idle at my desk at work - it's a weak-signal location so the radio eats much more battery.
One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
Edit: I do have some power management tweaks in the kernel I'm running, but they don't make that much off a difference except in some high-drain corner cases in my experience. I'll be releasing it sometime later this week depending on how well these antibiotics do their job.
Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
Install this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868#post15869868
If you see "DataTracker-FD" or "Fast Dormancy" as the top wake lock, go into dialer
dial *#*#9900#*#*
disable Fast Dormancy (FD).
By default, the Samsung Galaxy S II has Fast Dormancy support enabled. One of the goals of Fast Dormancy is to increase the battery life of a device, by limiting the amount of signaling between the phone and the cell network. But, when Fast Dormancy it is not enabled in the network and is enabled on the phone it ironically works the other way around, and actually drains more battery than before.
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That applies to the I9100.
As far as I can tell, the I777 has FD disabled by default. (This may change once I9100 ROM ports start showing up)
Okay, charged my battery to 97%(I got a beep saying it's fully charged). Idled for the past 2 hours and 22 mins. Battery is at 86%.
According to the battery, my screen account for 2%, and the android system accounts for 97%.
This is a stock phone guys, I have no apps installed!
Entropy512 said:
One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
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How do you calibrate it?
sweetboy02125 said:
Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
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Settings > About phone > Battery usage
WillEat4F00d said:
How do you calibrate it?
Settings > About phone > Battery usage
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I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
sweetboy02125 said:
I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
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Just search up "battery indicator" in the Market and you'll get a few to choose from.
I too got mine yesterday and started tinkering around with installing apps and such to test out all functions before I rooted it and move onto cm7 most likely. The 1 things I noticed was that the battery was NOT completely full when it was first turned on at the store so once it got a little lower after playing with it I charged it up overnight. Today the battery was WAY BETTER and was not dead yet. I have been using it NON STOP today, rebooting it, testing it, trying to root it, rebooting some more, some time using tango to test it out, watched a Netflix movie, pretty much taking full advantage of it all day. I finally decided to charge it up and use my Captivate a bit. I didn't keep track of usage and times today but I KNOW it lasted a WAY LONGER time with all I was doing with it than my Cappy. Tomorrow I will check more out possibly before putting on a rom.
So LOOOONNNNGGGG STORY short make sure you charge it up once you get it before messing with it too much and then it will LAST LONGER.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
After two nights of completely draining then recharging the battery to full, the battery has gotten significantly better. I'm trying to drain it again before I go to bed tonight but I don't think I'll make it.
I played the entirety of Toy Story 3 on max brightness, and only burned 20% of the battery!
Hey, so I've seen several people claiming fantastic battery life, etc. So, I am just wondering what's your experience in general. If you've got some free time and feel like typing, can you list several things like:
roms & kernel
stock/anker battery
battery life
screen time (and possibly voice call time or whatever else that seems to consume lots of the battery life)
highest battery temperature (I recently got pretty high so I was kind of worried)
and anything else you think might worth sharing (favorite actress? :silly
As for me, I recently installed Speed ROM 6.5 with stock kernel on stock battery
I only got 8 hours battery life to get to 14% with 3 hours of screen time (mostly used for game, browsing, and flipboard)
I got up to 100F (~40.5C) after playing a game for about 15-20 mins which made me leave it for a few mins to cool down. The next time I played the game again, it got up to 109F (~43.5C) after playing for 20-30 mins....
I am wondering whether that kind of high temperature is normal or not, and whether my battery life seems ok or bad; which is why I am hoping people can share their experience here. I haven't try using faux kernel though (might try it tomorrow in hope for a better batter life)....
So, again... if anyone got free time and feel like typing, please share it with me :angel:
From my g2 to this phone all I ever see is how bad the battery is. Never noticed a difference switching roms and battery across all smartphones I've used is allot what I expect.
Some people just can't be happy you know. Not to mention people never agree on anything (me included ).
Just my two cents
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Spastic909 said:
From my g2 to this phone all I ever see is how bad the battery is. Never noticed a difference switching roms and battery across all smartphones I've used is allot what I expect.
Some people just can't be happy you know. Not to mention people never agree on anything (me included ).
Just my two cents
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app
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Well, first off, I am not trying to complain about the phone here. All I am asking/trying to find out is whether my experience is "normal" or not for Amaze.
I also come from G2 and obviously the battery life will be worse on the Amaze in general. This phone is 1.5ghz dual core and 4.3" display compared to 800mhz single core and 3.7" display on g2 with only extra ~300mah on the amaze.
I just want to know if my experience of getting only 8 hours battery life (with 3 hours of screen time consist of game and browsing) and getting a high temperature of 109F on the battery is considered "normal" or not for this particular phone. I only have one phone here; so, I don't know if my unit is bad unit or if it is normal for the Amaze.
So again, by all means, I am not trying to complain about this amazing phone here. I am just trying to find out if this is what normally happen with this phone.
And yeah I'm one of those guys that can never be happy :silly:. When I used G2, I want larger phone and faster performance. When I got Amaze, I want slightly larger screen and much better battery performance. So, yeah I can never be happy with my phone :laugh:
The temperature thing is definately normal, it can get pretty high. I've had it go above 109f while on video chats on Skype. As for thebattery, that's normal too its just dependent on the user. U may have something that's running continuously in the background that your not aware of that's causing drainage. Many things that could be effecting the battery really
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
My battery temperature is over 9000!
sorry someone had to say it
@OP, most likely you either have a bad battery, or your phone isn't sleeping properly on idle, or your phone has some problems with the RUU
Code:
Battery is ~1900mAh. If you use it for 3 hours active at around 400mAh, that is 1200mAh
700mAh left for idling the rest of the 5 hours. My idle current usage is around 9-40mAh as reported by Battery Monitor Widget(go to settings, change monitoring mAh to HTC Sensation to get a better reading)
700/5 = 120mAh/hour.... this means your phone isn't sleeping properly
Get CPU Spy... install it, then put your phone down for an hour without using it.... after that, does the report show that it goes to deep sleep?
When I got my phone and flashed the ENERGY rom, I had ~8 hours of total uptime (1-2 hours of usage)... i reflashed the RUU (do it on 100% battery), then it is better now
Now, on the Energy STOCK ICS rom with FAUX latest(0.12?)
Anker battery
15 hours of uptime
1-2 hours of screen-on time(roughly 2-3 hours of phone "awake" time)
don't remember battery temps, but i don't ever remember ti being that high
interactive governor, max frequency 1.4 ghz(to maximize battery life)
data on, autosync on, 2 gmail accounts synced only
My 100%->80% battery drains in 90 minutes, but after that, it slows down
I added the following to build.prop to tweak more battery life
Code:
# Power Save Tweaks
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
If you really want to stretch out the battery, change the governor to powersave(forces processor to 192mhz always), but it definitely lags and I wouldn't recommend it unless you really really need to max battery life
EDIT: Go to Settings->power->see what is using my battery, post a screenshot (this one is 16 hours plus ~2 hours usage)
see the part that says "awake", and the part that says "screen on"? It should be correlate mostly -> when you use your phone's screen, the phone is awake.... when you turn off the screen, the device should be sleeping and not be awake
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aj_2423 said:
The temperature thing is definately normal, it can get pretty high. I've had it go above 109f while on video chats on Skype. As for thebattery, that's normal too its just dependent on the user. U may have something that's running continuously in the background that your not aware of that's causing drainage. Many things that could be effecting the battery really
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
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I guess this phone is just that "hot" eh....
So, you're saying that I should be able to get a better battery life than that?
By the way, did you use Juice Defender or anything like that? Or did you just let your mobile network and wifi on all the time?
`Ghost` said:
My battery temperature is over 9000!
sorry someone had to say it
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It hasn't exploded yet?!?! You can use your battery to heat up your room in winter :silly:
paperWastage said:
@OP, most likely you either have a bad battery, or your phone isn't sleeping properly on idle, or your phone has some problems with the RUU
Code:
Battery is ~1900mAh. If you use it for 3 hours active at around 400mAh, that is 1200mAh
700mAh left for idling the rest of the 5 hours. My idle current usage is around 9-40mAh as reported by Battery Monitor Widget(go to settings, change monitoring mAh to HTC Sensation to get a better reading)
700/5 = 120mAh/hour.... this means your phone isn't sleeping properly
Get CPU Spy... install it, then put your phone down for an hour without using it.... after that, does the report show that it goes to deep sleep?
When I got my phone and flashed the ENERGY rom, I had ~8 hours of total uptime (1-2 hours of usage)... i reflashed the RUU (do it on 100% battery), then it is better now
Now, on the Energy STOCK ICS rom with FAUX latest(0.12?)
Anker battery
15 hours of uptime
1-2 hours of screen-on time(roughly 2-3 hours of phone "awake" time)
don't remember battery temps, but i don't ever remember ti being that high
interactive governor, max frequency 1.4 ghz(to maximize battery life)
data on, autosync on, 2 gmail accounts synced only
My 100%->80% battery drains in 90 minutes, but after that, it slows down
I added the following to build.prop to tweak more battery life
Code:
# Power Save Tweaks
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
If you really want to stretch out the battery, change the governor to powersave(forces processor to 192mhz always), but it definitely lags and I wouldn't recommend it unless you really really need to max battery life
EDIT: Go to Settings->power->see what is using my battery, post a screenshot (this one is 16 hours plus ~2 hours usage)
see the part that says "awake", and the part that says "screen on"? It should be correlate mostly -> when you use your phone's screen, the phone is awake.... when you turn off the screen, the device should be sleeping and not be awake
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Hmm... I would try to check the stuff that you said. I did see the battery use like you did and I have much more awake (since I used it for games and browsing continuosly). But, when I was not using it, it doesn't show that many "awake" status which is why I thought that Amaze battery performance is just that poor. I forgot to try third party app like battery current widget or cpu spy. I will check those out.
Did you use Juice defender or anything like that? Or, did you just set them manually when you need it?
And I did leave my WiFi and auto sync on.... From your usage, I'd assume you turn off your WiFi when you're not using it, right?
Thanks for the input
Edit: So, I am guessing there's a rogue app on my phone? I just reboot my phone, leave it for a minute, and battery current widget shows 200mA on my notification bar
From what I'm reading your a heavy user. Like me lol. The most I get is 6-8 hrs. With 1.5-2 hrs screen on time. Comparing that with others who get double digits It's nothing but I'm a heavy user. I stream Pandora daily surf the internet for 1 hr non stop, xda for most of the time. . And on weekends I'll have most 4 hrs. But 3.5 of those screen on with data streaming and screen on with out going off. Kinda like watching a netflix movie on mobile network. I use my phone like if it is my laptop now. I rarely use my laptop. I don't have internet nor WiFi to connect to. But if I tether I would run out of data faster so I avoid it. Besides battery draining faster.
I think there is a difference between:
1. leaving the screen on for a while, causing the phone and battery to get hot. Specially when gaming because CPU is constantly running.
2. And total screen on time accumulated of 2-4 hrs screen on. Which is achieved when sporadically checking phone for text, calls, email, quick surfing. Then shutting of screen through out the day.CPU goes to deep sleep phone stays cool.
Now that's what I call a heavy user.
Remember when phone is hot battery drains faster so you need to find a way to cool it down. Sometimes there are settings in cpu apps that when phone reaches certain temperature that app will force cpu clock down a lot as to use less power to start cooling down but causing lag.
I've got a 4 month old stock battery with latest faux kernel v.16 with battery saving tweaks on it. Energy rom stock 8-1. If there is anybody that reaches double digits with 6-7 hours 4g mobile streaming not wifi at all. 2 hrs without turning the screen off not 2 total hours. Please say I? I'd really like to know your secret.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda premium
shuvarts said:
Hmm... I would try to check the stuff that you said. I did see the battery use like you did and I have much more awake (since I used it for games and browsing continuosly). But, when I was not using it, it doesn't show that many "awake" status which is why I thought that Amaze battery performance is just that poor. I forgot to try third party app like battery current widget or cpu spy. I will check those out.
Did you use Juice defender or anything like that? Or, did you just set them manually when you need it?
And I did leave my WiFi and auto sync on.... From your usage, I'd assume you turn off your WiFi when you're not using it, right?
Thanks for the input
Edit: So, I am guessing there's a rogue app on my phone? I just reboot my phone, leave it for a minute, and battery current widget shows 200mA on my notification bar
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Battery Current Widget... go to the options (top right), change the current selection(should be first row, then middle row) to "HTC Sensation" (it'll be more accurate)
that program doesn't accurately report mA if you don't change it(before changing, it'll be screen-off deep sleep 100mAh, but after switching, 10-40mAh)
I don't have Juice Defender on... autosync and data is on all the time
try w/o wifi on... i think wifi should take less battery power than data, but it always depends
on my screenshot, if you go back one and click on the screen-on... what does it say?
what does CPU Spy say about your phone going to deep sleep?
fcpelayo said:
From what I'm reading your a heavy user. Like me lol. The most I get is 6-8 hrs. With 1.5-2 hrs screen on time. Comparing that with others who get double digits It's nothing but I'm a heavy user. I stream Pandora daily surf the internet for 1 hr non stop, xda for most of the time. . And on weekends I'll have most 4 hrs. But 3.5 of those screen on with data streaming and screen on with out going off. Kinda like watching a netflix movie on mobile network. I use my phone like if it is my laptop now. I rarely use my laptop. I don't have internet nor WiFi to connect to. But if I tether I would run out of data faster so I avoid it. Besides battery draining faster.
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Maybe you should try to mod the Atrix Lapdock... if it works, you get a larger screen and a 35W battery
I've got a 4 month old stock battery with latest faux kernel v.16 with battery saving tweaks on it. Energy rom stock 8-1. If there is anybody that reaches double digits with 6-7 hours 4g mobile streaming not wifi at all. 2 hrs without turning the screen off not 2 total hours. Please say I? I'd really like to know your secret.
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if you are only getting 8 hours uptime with 1-2 hours of usage, then your phone's not going to sleep properly... I'd reflash the RUU, then flash Energy ROM and faux kernel... i had that problem before I reflashed RUU (but that was before I knew more about CPU states and mAh usage on this phone, so I don't know if it was a problem with the deep sleep, or the phone not properly updated to ICS when I got it from someone else)
you want to try to max battery life? I can give you hints to hit that mark... it's all about physics/electronics
your battery is 1900mAh.... Using Battery Monitor Widget(with the Settings changed to detect the phone as "HTC Sensation", see above)
With the tweaks in my first post of the build.prop, BMW shows my idle around 10-40mAh..... 10 hours of idle = 100-400mAh. Note, this is with sync and data on... if you use Juice Defender or data off, probably less
So, idle, you use up 400mAh... you have 1500mAh left
1500mAh / 6 hours = 250mAh each hour.... with BWM, it shows that the current usage goes between 100-500mAh depending on how much screen brightness, data used, processor speed... If i choose powersave, I think it goes between 50-300mAh, but its really laggy, noticeable
300mAh * 6 hours = 1800... close enough
to avoid the 100%->90% fast drain, employ bump charging:
either
1) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, wait for it to drop to 90%. replug it, charge to 100%... repeat for 5-10 times
2) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, shutdown. Replug it, wait till the light goes green, boot up, charge to 100%, remove plug and shutdown, replug it , wait till light goes green etc.... do the cycle for 5-10 times
I was trying to see how much I could get out of my phone. I used my phone as little as I could, putting it into airplane mode when I slept.
ROM and Kernel: I was using the latest build of Energy and Faux Kernel v.15 at the time of the picture
Using stock battery, unfortunately I do not know what the highest battery temperature is.
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idaggerpwn said:
I was trying to see how much I could get out of my phone. I used my phone as little as I could, putting it into airplane mode when I slept.
ROM and Kernel: I was using the latest build of Energy and Faux Kernel v.15 at the time of the picture
Using stock battery, unfortunately I do not know what the highest battery temperature is.
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unfortunately, for this device, the screen brightness and dual-cpu takes up a lot of power... if you see the pic below, when you use your phone(screen-on/awake), the battery % left has a sharp drop
I know for my old phone, LG Optimus T, I didn't have a data plan... the phone had data off all the time, and I got days out of using it(phone calls, wifi/browsing, checking gmaps offline)... once I enabled a data plan, it got half (like 1.5 days instead of 4)
if you calculate your usage... its possible
24 hours * 50mAh during idle = 1200 mAh
2 hours * 300mAh/hour during screen-on usage = 600mAh
total = 1800mAh, the capacity of your battery
paperWastage said:
to avoid the 100%->90% fast drain, employ bump charging:
either
1) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, wait for it to drop to 90%. replug it, charge to 100%... repeat for 5-10 times
2) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, shutdown. Replug it, wait till the light goes green, boot up, charge to 100%, remove plug and shutdown, replug it , wait till light goes green etc.... do the cycle for 5-10 times
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So if I use either of those 2 methods above, is my battery 'cured" of the 100% to 90% fast drain? Or do I have to keep doing it over a period of time?
icepixie said:
So if I use either of those 2 methods above, is my battery 'cured" of the 100% to 90% fast drain? Or do I have to keep doing it over a period of time?
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bump charging only helps you for that one time... you have to do this every time if you want max battery capacity
the problem is 2 things
1) the hardware/software is configured to maximize battery lifespan, meaning to slowly charge it and not go to 100% (high voltage, damages battery)...
2) the hardware/software is poorly coded, can't read the battery voltage properly...
either way, doing this means you are forcing current into the battery every time... your battery will hold less charge in a few months if you force it to full everytime... so you have to get a new battery aftera couple of months or live with lower capacity
I will just try to observe it better tomorrow using all those apps. With much less usage (1.5 hrs of screen time), i only got 11hrs of battery life. The screenshot below is for those 1.5hrs f screen time... I dont use jd and got email sync every 1 or 2 hr though....
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app
I tested the idle-deep sleep capacity of the phone...
got 21 hours idle, 17 minutes screen-on (minimal use of phone) with 50% left
here is my phone with data and auto-sync ON, I got roughly 10 emails(all received during different times), had about 10 minutes of phone calls
NOTE: around the first part of the graph, you see the %-left spike up... I rebooted my phone then... and you can see that the battery-monitoring software/hardware part recalibrates itself to the real value
NOTE: cell standby-time of 21 hours used more battery than screen-on of 17 minutes.
When I used the phone for another 15 minutes, screen used 35% of battery while cellular standby dropped to 22%
tl;dr, using the phone, especially the screen, kills the battery a lot more... not using the phone = lasts a long time
paperWastage said:
I tested the idle-deep sleep capacity of the phone...
got 21 hours idle, 17 minutes screen-on (minimal use of phone) with 50% left
here is my phone with data and auto-sync ON, I got roughly 10 emails(all received during different times), had about 10 minutes of phone calls
NOTE: around the first part of the graph, you see the %-left spike up... I rebooted my phone then... and you can see that the battery-monitoring software/hardware part recalibrates itself to the real value
NOTE: cell standby-time of 21 hours used more battery than screen-on of 17 minutes.
When I used the phone for another 15 minutes, screen used 35% of battery while cellular standby dropped to 22%
tl;dr, using the phone, especially the screen, kills the battery a lot more... not using the phone = lasts a long time
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I guess after using all those apps that you mention, I can kind of see that Amaze battery is just way worse than my G2. I was pampered with my G2 battery life for a week and now I realized how bad Amaze battery is. lol
I got 11% left after 12h 15min. That's about 1550mA used (I use stock battery).
almost 3 hours of screen time (3*350) = about 1050mA
25 mins of phone call = ~120 mA
about 8h 45 mins of idle = 360mA
So, yeah, it summed up about right this time (more accurate compared to my first result where I think I got a rogue app)...
**I am eagerly patiently excitedly waiting for a fully working stable CM9 by sport :angel: **
On a side note, just wondering if anyone know if galaxy s2 have better, worse, or about same battery life? I am just curious since s2 is supposed to be amaze rival at t-mob....
Here's mine
Rom: Fourth Bar Jellybean Fusion
Kernel: Faux's Kernel, latest edition [August 15th]
Average Temp: high 90's
Average Battery Life: 5-6 hours.
Realize that what you do with screen on makes a significant difference- If I play organ trail(awesome zombie game styled after old school oregon trail game) I can play for a long time with little battery drain.. but it is a 2d game, and not going to be very processor intensive. If I play final fantasy 3, a 3d game, wow.. battery will drain much quicker, but then again, it IS a 3d game, and processor intensive. So HOW you use your phone is even more important than the screen on time.
With the latest faux(17) kernel, and 2-3 hours of screen on, the last few days I have 45% battery left after 15 hours since unplugged. Maybe 30-45 minutes was organ trail, but not much other gaming. The only changes I made, were made to the kernel, which I posted here(be aware that making all those changes will create some small lag changing screen orientation or opening app drawer, but haven't noticed anything else). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30298629&postcount=4
I also underclock to 1.2ghz- this doesn't create any lag, and no game or app I have used seems to work ANY better @1.5ghz than it does @1.2ghz. The main difference is the voltage it uses at max speed will be less @1.2ghz.
If you have weak 4g signal, there is an app i recently posted in some thread that puts it on 2g while screen off.. that has helped a lot too. If you have constantly good signal, then it won't make MUCH difference(tho 2g does drain less than 4g even with good signal), but it takes up to 2 seconds for it to switch to 4g after screen on. I can wait two seconds before opening an app, I don't care.
I assume you have used betterbatterystats to see what apps keep your phone from deep sleep, under partial wakelock?
And when I get obnoxious drain, but NOT because the phone isn't going into deep sleep.. I turn on the logging of an app called currentwidget- it can actually measure the MAH used while using specific apps.. the app itself can cause a bit of drain, but you'd only use it long enough to see what app is so battery inefficient. I have more about how to use that under battery savings part of the bible in my signature.
Edit: And I consistently get battery temperature of 77.7-77.9F, I always have, no matter the kernel or rom or settings.. perhaps it raises a TINY bit when I play some intensive game, but never noticeable. I am using an anker battery tho, so if you are using stock, perhaps that is a factor.
broker32 said:
Here's mine
Rom: Fourth Bar Jellybean Fusion
Kernel: Faux's Kernel, latest edition [August 15th]
Average Temp: high 90's
Average Battery Life: 5-6 hours.
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Whoa... I suppose there is someone out there with similar condition with mine... I almost thought I am the only one
Silentbtdeadly said:
Realize that what you do with screen on makes a significant difference- If I play organ trail(awesome zombie game styled after old school oregon trail game) I can play for a long time with little battery drain.. but it is a 2d game, and not going to be very processor intensive. If I play final fantasy 3, a 3d game, wow.. battery will drain much quicker, but then again, it IS a 3d game, and processor intensive. So HOW you use your phone is even more important than the screen on time.
With the latest faux(17) kernel, and 2-3 hours of screen on, the last few days I have 45% battery left after 15 hours since unplugged. Maybe 30-45 minutes was organ trail, but not much other gaming. The only changes I made, were made to the kernel, which I posted here(be aware that making all those changes will create some small lag changing screen orientation or opening app drawer, but haven't noticed anything else). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30298629&postcount=4
I also underclock to 1.2ghz- this doesn't create any lag, and no game or app I have used seems to work ANY better @1.5ghz than it does @1.2ghz. The main difference is the voltage it uses at max speed will be less @1.2ghz.
If you have weak 4g signal, there is an app i recently posted in some thread that puts it on 2g while screen off.. that has helped a lot too. If you have constantly good signal, then it won't make MUCH difference(tho 2g does drain less than 4g even with good signal), but it takes up to 2 seconds for it to switch to 4g after screen on. I can wait two seconds before opening an app, I don't care.
I assume you have used betterbatterystats to see what apps keep your phone from deep sleep, under partial wakelock?
And when I get obnoxious drain, but NOT because the phone isn't going into deep sleep.. I turn on the logging of an app called currentwidget- it can actually measure the MAH used while using specific apps.. the app itself can cause a bit of drain, but you'd only use it long enough to see what app is so battery inefficient. I have more about how to use that under battery savings part of the bible in my signature.
Edit: And I consistently get battery temperature of 77.7-77.9F, I always have, no matter the kernel or rom or settings.. perhaps it raises a TINY bit when I play some intensive game, but never noticeable. I am using an anker battery tho, so if you are using stock, perhaps that is a factor.
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Good to know that. I used a different app to check the current mah and it seems reasonable. I forgot to use better battery stat; but, based on cpu spy, the deep sleep time seems about right... I haven't updated my kernel to v17 (still on v15) and haven't done any edit that you mention since I was still switching roms to find the ROM that suits my need. I might try to do those stuffs today and hope for the best.
And btw, I am kinda jealous with your battery life... 45% left after 15 hours unplugged and 3 hours screen ON
I might get similar result; but my battery left will be 10% and those screen on are mostly on flipboard, xda, and browsing....
Like right now, 6h 10min unplugged, 40 mins of screen on (xda & flipboard), and I am down to 66% :crying:
**On a side note, I just get my hand on gs2 and I am just curious to try and see how good it is since gs2 seems to be such a hyped up device compared to amaze.... :laugh:
shuvarts said:
Like right now, 6h 10min unplugged, 40 mins of screen on (xda & flipboard), and I am down to 66% :crying:
**On a side note, I just get my hand on gs2 and I am just curious to try and see how good it is since gs2 seems to be such a hyped up device compared to amaze.... :laugh:
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Just checked my usage. I'm sorta similar to yours in terms of screen on time. 11 h 43 m since unplugged, 39 min screen on (facebook, news, texts) and I'm down to 62%. My screen on time isnt that high, yet something else is draining my battery.
Awake time is 1 h 44m. Lots of Alarm Manager partial wakelocks. need to figure out what's causing those
I got an LG G5 2 weeks ago and the battery has been outrageously bad. I bought it used and the owned has owned it for 2 to 3 months. There is very little standby drain and the phone is cold to the touch within minutes. Overnight drain is around 10 to 12 percent with always on display which is normal considering the 1 percent per hour loss plus the normal overnight drain. However when I turn the screen on the screen on time is very poor only about 2.5 hrs to 3 hours. The screen brightness is set 20 to 40 percent no auto brightness. There appears to be nothing draining the battery with the screen being the biggest battery draining. I have location nfc Bluetooth and LTE turned off. Along with touch sounds and touch vibration but toggling these settings makes no difference. Its impossible to find out more because I have no root. If this battery continues to be this poor I'm going to be selling it because I cannot stand having to charge twice a day even with quickcharge 3.0 old xiaomi redmi note 3 lasted 2 to 3 times longer on the battery. Any ideas what could be eating my battery?
Hi
I get 4 to 5 hours screen on time and I use my brightness at 75% to 100%, never as low as 20-40% it's too dark.
What apps do you use when you do have the screen on? Maps and games will drop you to 2-3 hours screen on time like all phones, but normal apps (excluding snapchat) will give you 4-5 SOT.
I would turn off always on display, you won't miss it.
Eeeeh , your Android system and android Os are high , screen should consumpt most of the battery about 30-40% mine does 34% with 35% brightness and Phone idle 22% my android system at 9% android Os 6% , if you dont game you get nearly 1 day life from your battery but if you do you need 2-3 timers charging per day , also if you use Data it just sucks the battery like vacum. So there is a drain in your system but its true lg g5 consumps a lot in order to give you performance in priority and not power saving. Dont forget G5s are the only high range phone that you can swip your battery with no deal , they are giving you that feature , Use it!!! You can grab up to 3600mah (2800 stock) extended capacity battery with a wall charger from ebay really cheap and never again have a battery problem. Also this batterys are lithium ones , i saw in your pic 10% i suggest not to go below 20% you are killing really fast lithium batterys if you decharge them!!!
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I get 4 to 5 hours screen on time and I use my brightness at 75% to 100%, never as low as 20-40% it's too dark.
What apps do you use when you do have the screen on? Maps and games will drop you to 2-3 hours screen on time like all phones, but normal apps (excluding snapchat) will give you 4-5 SOT.
I would turn off always on display, you won't miss it.
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Always on display barely drains any battery. I use apps such as facebook, text messaging, messenger, instagram, chrome, etc. I rarely play games because the second I open a game the battery life is only about 1.5 hours sot.
Well Facebook and messenger should be a couple of alarm bells when talking about battery life surely? Also, you bought it second hand, you have no idea how the previous owner treated the battery in the time they had it no matter how short a period it was.
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I got an LG G5 2 weeks ago and the battery has been outrageously bad. I bought it used and the owned has owned it for 2 to 3 months. There is very little standby drain and the phone is cold to the touch within minutes. Overnight drain is around 10 to 12 percent with always on display which is normal considering the 1 percent per hour loss plus the normal overnight drain. However when I turn the screen on the screen on time is very poor only about 2.5 hrs to 3 hours. The screen brightness is set 20 to 40 percent no auto brightness. There appears to be nothing draining the battery with the screen being the biggest battery draining. I have location nfc Bluetooth and LTE turned off. Along with touch sounds and touch vibration but toggling these settings makes no difference. Its impossible to find out more because I have no root. If this battery continues to be this poor I'm going to be selling it because I cannot stand having to charge twice a day even with quickcharge 3.0 old xiaomi redmi note 3 lasted 2 to 3 times longer on the battery. Any ideas what could be eating my battery?
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Hello friends
I have a problem with battery and also unable to turn on the WiFi after update.
I just bought my brand new G5 H860 TWN and updated it, which cause the whole device to malfunction.
please correct me if I'm mistaken. An update is meant to improve the functionality of a device not to destroy it.
Apart from this problem the interesting thing is that non of the LG customer cares know whats causing the problem,
A word of advice to LG. Please Do not make something that you don't know **** about.
yours sincerely
have nice day.
3mehdi said:
Hello friends
I have a problem with battery and also unable to turn on the WiFi after update.
I just bought my brand new G5 H860 TWN and updated it, which cause the whole device to malfunction.
please correct me if I'm mistaken. An update is meant to improve the functionality of a device not to destroy it.
Apart from this problem the interesting thing is that non of the LG customer cares know whats causing the problem,
A word of advice to LG. Please Do not make something that you don't know **** about.
yours sincerely
have nice day.
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Do a factory reset. Then feedback.
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Do a factory reset. Then feedback.
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Thanks for your advise my friend, factory resetting the device was the first thing i did, but i did not solve the issue.
i have tried the following:
-Flash other ROMs from different countries for H860
-booted the device into safe mode and tried to enable the WiFi and etc.
my WiFi MAC is set to 02:00:00:00:00:00 and it means that WiFi has not been detected by android. Also the Bluetooth address is defined as "unavailable".
and the worst of all is its battery drain issue which kill my battery within 5 hours in standby mode, while i can not notice any abnormal battery consumption in "BATTERY USE DETAILS" section in Battery usage setting. this probably means that some other consumer(perhaps the WiFi) uses the battery without being listed.
3mehdi said:
Thanks for your advise my friend, factory resetting the device was the first thing i did, but i did not solve the issue.
i have tried the following:
-Flash other ROMs from different countries for H860
-booted the device into safe mode and tried to enable the WiFi and etc.
my WiFi MAC is set to 02:00:00:00:00:00 and it means that WiFi has not been detected by android. Also the Bluetooth address is defined as "unavailable".
and the worst of all is its battery drain issue which kill my battery within 5 hours in standby mode, while i can not notice any abnormal battery consumption in "BATTERY USE DETAILS" section in Battery usage setting. this probably means that some other consumer(perhaps the WiFi) uses the battery without being listed.
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H860? H860 haven't got root nor custom ROM yet. Bootloader of H860's still locked.
I've got a brand new LG G5 which I have been using since Thursday and I honestly can say it sucks big time compared to my 2 year old Z3 which can easily get me 4 hrs SoD on mixed usage. Using the exact same set up of apps, location and wifi/mobile use, I am struggling to see more than 2.5hrs SoD with the G5. Honestly, it just drains battery like no tomorrow and this is fresh battery... I dread to think what it will be like in 2 years. Sony made a lot of mistakes but the Z3 really excelled...