when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
ElectroFetish said:
when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
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CM7 is straight Android with some reasonable improvements and modifications. No apps come with it but the bare essentials. Some people very much prefer it sans gapps, as the Google apps pack is know, because once it's in there it's like an octopus. To answer your question, yes, just download the gapps.zip and flash it as you would a ROM.
i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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The cm roms are not allowed to include gapps. Early on the original dev received a c&d order to stop putting them in, so now you flash them separate. It's not that hard, nor does it take long. Download rom, download gapps, download kernel if you want, flash all in recovery. Done.
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ElectroFetish said:
i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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No, it's not in any conceivable way a necessity for Android. There's many ways to install apps and different markets to use as well. MOST devs don't make habit of making as many personal choices for the user as humanly possible. Some people don't use Ti backup. A HUGE part of a custom ROM is not having to deal with the bloatware. Some consider all that crap you're talking about useless bloatware and CM7 is aimed squarely at the folks who'd consider Google apps unwanted bloatware. Why are you even trying it if you don't like it???
not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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Yes. Please do. You're DEFINITELY NOT a CM7 kinda guy. And can ya do me a favor? Stop calling things you don't agree with stupid and presumptuously proclaiming what the "right way" is for something to be done? I can fully understand why someone might not want Market on their device. I've got plenty of apps I install from other sources. It's not like it's a big deal. You just install them, and it's faster than Market most of the time.
you mad bro?
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you mad bro?
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He's not mad, he's right. lol, you look like a real lazy guy. If you love market so much and don't want to flash gapps after cm7, you definitely don't belong to custom roms section as such. I'd recommend that you stop Modding your android and use stock rom that came with your phone.
Again, law prohibits use of weed and inclusion of gapps in cm7 by default. You got to learn to deal with things even if you don't like them.
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I don't use the market much anymore, everything I use I have backed up in Titanium Backup. One really nice thing about not having the market installed is I can use my apps without requiring a update first, this really annoys me especially when the update sucks and I want to re-install the previous version through Titanium Backup but can't use the previous version because there's an update. I add the apk's I want into the zip before I flash it, that take 2 seconds and its tailored to my liking, not the Dev/other users.
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you mad bro?
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Just not keen on the attitude. I'm not a huge fan of AOSP myself. It's just too spartan for me and I've never felt like building up a ROM to do what I've come to enjoy from Sense. My girlfriend thinks it's the best thing ever. I appreciate what it is, why she and others likes it, and why they develop it the way they do. I'm VERY glad it's out there because, as a project, Cyanogen contributes immensely to the Android community. Just doesn't seem like you respect CM for what it is.
Just flash the google apps zip in recovery and you'll get the market back she whatever else you want that google makes.
umm...wow @ this whole thread
Market still missing after flashed gapps
My market still missing even after I flashed gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip..how to solve this guys?
It's because of the lawyers
See here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
Technically no ROM can ship with Google's app bundle out of the box; you have to flash separately. CyanogenMod, being a much bigger organization than most ROM producers, have to be more by-the-book.
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untill it starts to be in all the roms, any way to flash this?
i have the apk, tried to do it through App Installer
gonna try adb next
a few people are having problems with getting it to work on cyanogen based roms
I assume, though I could be totally wrong, that there will be no need to flash this or install it. Your market will just show up looking like that someday. In engadget's post about it, they mention "Google's pushing the update to every Android 1.6-and-above device over the next couple of weeks".
im not sure when ill add it ,, looks like some people are haven issues with apps ,, also not sure if i like the fact that if u pay for a app u only have 15 minutes to ask for a refund ,, what if the app works fine , then later on it doesnt work right? i guess u bought a bad app lol i dunno not sure if i like that
As far as I can tell, it's all just a new interface, plus, they changed things like only having 15mins now to get a refund instead of the 24hrs... which is kind of retarded.
The new market is working fine, all apps dloaded with it stick after reboot. If you're using this on a 2.1 rom, delete the Vendor.odex file in system/app if your rom isn't deodex'd already.
if you're on a CM rom, just rename the .apk to Vendor.apk (if it's named something else) and put it in system/app using adb or a file manager.
I attached it already renamed if anyone wants it...
So this is not a pushed update as engadget stated? How are all the other non-rooted android users gonna get it?
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So this is not a pushed update as engadget stated? How are all the other non-rooted android users gonna get it?
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I'm not sure exactly, my guess would be through your google account, since it isn't a carrier specific update...
anyone know the answer to this?
I can make a flashable zip for those interested... even though all of you should be able to use adb or a file manager and place it in system/app by now
A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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you can find it on a few sites for download
Any ideas I installed the new market wiped, cleared data and all I can do is open the market up. As soon as I select an app it force closes on me.
truelove79 said:
A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9786339#post9786339
This zip works great for me so far. Though I dont like the new market. The tabs made it easier to flip between things and the rotating apps at the top is slow on a slow phone. It looks like they tried to make it look nicer (and failed in my opinion) but ended up making it less functional.
Google apps always look simple and sophisticated. This Market overhaul looks overdone and tacky with too much "pizzaz".
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I flashed the market update. It's been working fine on nonsensikal 15.2.
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys.
So I didn't flash the new market, but I have new features in my 'stock' market. Is this the new market that is all over the place?
meanm50 said:
So I didn't flash the new market, but I have new features in my 'stock' market. Is this the new market that is all over the place?
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Yes
Hey all, I started a thread in Apps & Theming for this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871510
That's funny...it just showed up yesterday. Which I find odd because I am on Cricket. Oh well! It's nothing that special...but the 15m return policy is horse $***.
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It's nothing that special...but the 15m return policy is horse $***.
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Agreed!
hmmm it might just be preinstalled on new android devices, since i dont think any carrier would do a OTA update, so maybe only rooted users will have the new market for a while?
any other thoughts?
flashed thanks man, works fine on froshedyo v7 2.2.1
Android Market instalation Problem, help me please...
Hi all !
Thank for your read and excuse me because i am a french engeneer and i speak english a little bit...
I got a robotpad who work by Android 1.6 version and i don't have the android-market application installed...
I hope to have it because i can't read any video, pdf file, word file, txt file...I have to instal a lot of application.
But i can't.
I found a lot of links where i can't download a lot of .apk file but when i can to launch it i have a error window : "A problem occurred while parsing the kit".
I have the same problème with every .apk file and it's a realy probleme for me because it's a christmas gift for my wif.
Help me please and thanks a lot
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im not sure when ill add it ,, looks like some people are haven issues with apps ,, also not sure if i like the fact that if u pay for a app u only have 15 minutes to ask for a refund ,, what if the app works fine , then later on it doesnt work right? i guess u bought a bad app lol i dunno not sure if i like that
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Yeah, that shocked me. 15 minutes isn't much time to make sure an app works fine for your purposes. For apps that have free/trial versions, then you can check those out first, but what if it's the paid options that don't sufficiently work. I think one or two hours is reasonable, but 15 minutes is ridiculous.
I think ROMs should keep the current version of the market and people can use flashable zips to go to the new version if they want.
I would really like to know why some free apks are included as system files, such as titanium backup and launcher pro.. As I have bought both paid versions, I have to go through the hastle of removing these, which sometimes appears not to be possible.
They are FREE. If someone needs them, can't they just download it themselves? I don't think any free apk should be pre-installed if it will block a commonly owned paid version.
If anyone wants to explain why these should or are included in most roms, please do. Also, if someone wants to explain a definitive method to get rid of these programs(that are not uninstallable normally because they are system files), please do. Using root explorer and deleting the actual APK doesn't always work, sometimes the file is recreated despite the fact I just deleted it.
I imagine, at least with launcher pro, that MAYBE it is themed(though I haven't seen this yet), but I still imagine there would be another easy way to get it out there..
Anyways, I don't want to be flamed, and I do appreciate the hard work these devs put into these roms, but I haven't been feeling like trying any of these newer roms just because I will have to remove half of these free apks anyways, and it is a pain I just don't want to have to go through 3 times a month.
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I would really like to know why some free apks are included as system files, such as titanium backup and launcher pro.. As I have bought both paid versions, I have to go through the hastle of removing these, which sometimes appears not to be possible.
They are FREE. If someone needs them, can't they just download it themselves? I don't think any free apk should be pre-installed if it will block a commonly owned paid version.
If anyone wants to explain why these should or are included in most roms, please do. Also, if someone wants to explain a definitive method to get rid of these programs(that are not uninstallable normally because they are system files), please do. Using root explorer and deleting the actual APK doesn't always work, sometimes the file is recreated despite the fact I just deleted it.
I imagine, at least with launcher pro, that MAYBE it is themed(though I haven't seen this yet), but I still imagine there would be another easy way to get it out there..
Anyways, I don't want to be flamed, and I do appreciate the hard work these devs put into these roms, but I haven't been feeling like trying any of these newer roms just because I will have to remove half of these free apks anyways, and it is a pain I just don't want to have to go through 3 times a month.
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All the roms I've used include extra apks in the /data/app directory. And with the two examples you provided, neither of them require a replacement apk for the full version. Titanium has an extra apk for the pro license, and LP you can just input your license.
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Roms are a composite of many things. Stating "i don't think .apks should be in there is like saying "We shouldn't have the modems in the rom. You can download and flash them separate". Now does that sound like a coherent statement?. A custom rom is a composite of what the dev envisions how he/she wants the phone to perform. No offense but the statement doesn't make sense to me.
1 - they usually are in data/app for easy removal
2 - if they were in system/app, how hard is it really to go there and delete the .apk
3 - you dont need to remove these to upgrade to the paid version... unneccessary step
4 - the developers put them there for convenience to the MAJORITY
5 - you could always make a rom
6 - really surprised you didnt mention stock bloat from samsung thats included in roms, instead you choose most peoples fav 2 apps.
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I would really like to know why some free apks are included as system files, such as titanium backup and launcher pro.. As I have bought both paid versions, I have to go through the hastle of removing these, which sometimes appears not to be possible.
They are FREE. If someone needs them, can't they just download it themselves? I don't think any free apk should be pre-installed if it will block a commonly owned paid version.
If anyone wants to explain why these should or are included in most roms, please do. Also, if someone wants to explain a definitive method to get rid of these programs(that are not uninstallable normally because they are system files), please do. Using root explorer and deleting the actual APK doesn't always work, sometimes the file is recreated despite the fact I just deleted it.
I imagine, at least with launcher pro, that MAYBE it is themed(though I haven't seen this yet), but I still imagine there would be another easy way to get it out there..
Anyways, I don't want to be flamed, and I do appreciate the hard work these devs put into these roms, but I haven't been feeling like trying any of these newer roms just because I will have to remove half of these free apks anyways, and it is a pain I just don't want to have to go through 3 times a month.
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I'm not on any dev team so if my logic is wrong, please correct me. But, to answer your question about why applications are added to the ROMs, I think it mainly boils down to convenience. Those to apps, and I'll even add ROM Manager to the mix, it provides me the quickest, most efficient way, to get my device setup, after flashing a new ROM. I mean, I flash the ROM, use Titanium to restore my apps and settings, especially my LauncherPro settings. I gotta be honest, this is the first I have heard of someone not wanting those two apps specifically.
I have paid versions of both of the applications that you are describing, I have never had to remove the existing one, in order to use the paid version. Whenever I flash a new ROM, they both come up as the paid version. Both applications write the license credentials to your SD card. If the credentials exist when the "free" version starts, it becomes the paid version.
Do you have experience otherwise?
I agree with everyones response!
I don't need the other crap like Facebook or Twitter, but Titanium and LP are my saviors when it comes to quickly restoring my phone setup.
what do you mean by LP?
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what do you mean by LP?
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LOL Check you sig. Here is a hint you are using LP+
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
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No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
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Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
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Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
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i was just curious if someone can get me a list of apps that can be unistalled for faster performance on MeanBean without bricking anything. i dont use most the stock apps but am unsure of which ones i can do without ie...News and weather....email..... sprint music.... stuff like that im not sure if i can get rid of them without something else suffering. thank you in advance.
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i was just curious if someone can get me a list of apps that can be unistalled for faster performance on MeanBean without bricking anything. i dont use most the stock apps but am unsure of which ones i can do without ie...News and weather....email..... sprint music.... stuff like that im not sure if i can get rid of them without something else suffering. thank you in advance.
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Try using an app freezer first then if there's no negative impact un install frozen app. Of course do a back up of each app incase there's a problem later. That way you don't have to reflash rom.
Titanium backup
System tuner
This is the most recent list for Sense I could locate for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197265
If you're flashing ROM's with some regularity, I do. And I don't feel like removing apps from the zip. Here is an app that makes it simple to do after the fact: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32849928
You could also set up ROM Cleaner to take care of it for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832162
Hope that helps
really just looking to get rid of the garbage, like news and weather i don't believe sense uses them besides the widget which i delete anyway.
Robisgnarly said:
really just looking to get rid of the garbage, like news and weather i don't believe sense uses them besides the widget which i delete anyway.
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+1 for RomCleaner
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will Rom cleaner work with the latest firmware and twrp 2.4? if so ill give it a go. just since my last battle with the newest firmware and touch screen issues have been hesitant about anything
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will Rom cleaner work with the latest firmware and twrp 2.4? if so ill give it a go. just since my last battle with the newest firmware and touch screen issues have been hesitant about anything
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Yes I just tested an upcoming version for them just the other day, all my firmware is up to date
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Wow. ROM Cleaner is the shiz. I made my own NO-Sense_user.txt file and was able to trim off almost 100 apps(starting apps count from MeanBean).
care to post that list?
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care to post that list?
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Just get the NO-Sense_user.txt from here and use Notepad++ to customize it just remove the # from anything you want to remove
I could if you'd like but it would be better to edit one for yourself as I probably have A LOT of things deleted that you might want to keep and might have kept a lot of what you want deleted. It's really simple to edit as you are only putting in or taking out a # sign.
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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