I want explanations make me one of Android developers.
Please help me.
Preferably if they were in Arabic
I am sorry for the bad language
Go to school or teach yourself.
go to hell
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PFroyjr, das harshly put man, (OUCH) hey A.D. , the best way (in a mannerable way of saying wat pfroyjr jus said man) , is to do the old fashioned trial and error! The BEST advice I can give (because I will be using it also) is to find "Android Development for Dummies" , you can either download the PDF (legally or illegally is your decision) or go to a library and find it (download is your best bet, though.) It gives very in depth info on android deving, and is a great help! Otherwise, you can download a kitchen (go to theunlockr.com and search android kitchen, or search the XDA forums for one that somebody created) and start cooking lol.! Hopefully, ur gonna git a magnificent dish. I doubt that we use the same phone but you hav my support 100% from one dev in training to another
Hope this helps,
Ognimnella
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thank you 4 ever
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thank you 4 ever
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No probs dude! always here to help!
Android Development for Dummies woohoo! haha
iliketoplaymusic said:
Android Development for Dummies woohoo! haha
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IKR! Lol
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iliketoplaymusic said:
Android Development for Dummies woohoo! haha
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LOL..
sorry I don't understand your question
ognimnella said:
PFroyjr, das harshly put man, (OUCH) hey A.D. , the best way (in a mannerable way of saying wat pfroyjr jus said man) , is to do the old fashioned trial and error! The BEST advice I can give (because I will be using it also) is to find "Android Development for Dummies" , you can either download the PDF (legally or illegally is your decision) or go to a library and find it (download is your best bet, though.) It gives very in depth info on android deving, and is a great help! Otherwise, you can download a kitchen (go to theunlockr.com and search android kitchen, or search the XDA forums for one that somebody created) and start cooking lol.! Hopefully, ur gonna git a magnificent dish. I doubt that we use the same phone but you hav my support 100% from one dev in training to another
Hope this helps,
Ognimnella
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Sorry it was an off day LOL. The for dummies book is good but the biggest issue I see people learning dev is Linux. Pick up a good book on Linux and setup your pc/mac with the appropriate software. Best of luck and if you have any specificquestions I know there are lots of great people here to help, but Google first
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Sorry it was an off day LOL. The for dummies book is good but the biggest issue I see people learning dev is Linux. Pick up a good book on Linux and setup your pc/mac with the appropriate software. Best of luck and if you have any specificquestions I know there are lots of great people here to help, but Google first
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I disagree...unless your doing something with the kernel you don't need linux at all.
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You still need to understand how the system works. Side note since you mentioned kernels....most newer ROMs have certain kernels that work and some that don't. The dev process is about learning how it ALL works not just how to theme a ROM someone else made.
No offense but any moron can follow directions on how to modify someone's work and not know HOW it works. True talent is by understanding and creating something new and original even if based on someone else's idea.
Hence I say learn Linux at least enough to understand
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I disagree...unless your doing something with the kernel you don't need linux at all.
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I agree with the both of them. Windows and Linux are like riding a bike vs. Riding in a car, its like 2 completely different ways of getting to the same thing, just one is faster than the other! Now my only objection to pfroyjr's statement is that http://www.cygwin.com gives windows the main pieces of Linux! I have yet to use it, but from what I understand, its probably gonna save you a couple of Gigs in PC memory vs. Partitioning your hard drive to dual boot or installing a virtual machin via Virtual Box! Unless you are talking about learning how to build a rom all the way from planting a seed to watching the tree grow, you probably don't need to know every piece of linux! Also, with the help of various things like APK manager (which breaks down the compiled XML files for editing using a regular text editor, rather than some complicated software) the sky is the limit when it comes to theming!
So, to sum up my statement, and kinda piggyback on what the other 2 said, if you just want a slightly different LOOK, then Linux is not necessary. But if your trying to take the future of ROMs to a whole new level, you either need Cygwin or, as pfroyjr said, Learn Linux!
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I wish to ask the expert custom ROM makers here what knowledge do I need to learn how to make custom ROMs. My background is I am a programmer and developer in windows and web applications for 15 years. So where should I start? Thank you.
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Best advice is to learn about android, learn some app development etc.
Unless you want to become a 7zip chef. That's easy.
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Best advice is to learn about android, learn some app development etc.
Unless you want to become a 7zip chef. That's easy.
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Whats 7zip chef? Yes I know a little about app development with android. Android is java and I used to be Java certified since Java has been released by sun. Any other knowledge gap I need to fill? Should I learn more of linux stuffs?
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I guess you'll wanna learn some C too.
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I wish to ask the expert custom ROM makers here what knowledge do I need to learn how to make custom ROMs. My background is I am a programmer and developer in windows and web applications for 15 years. So where should I start? Thank you.
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:0 start learning "how to place the question in the right topic"...
i believe if u gonna make research and if u will pm some of the many developers here - maybe one that lives close to your area- he/she will help u out for sure with some details. i dont think they will release the details for public...otherwise use google mate.
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First best to learn about android in general. There are way too many people here who think applying a theme to a zipped stock rom makes them cool...
If you want to be regarded as a dev, stick to the coding side As you know java, smali should be simple to you..
Learn how to modify binary applications etc.
Don't fall into the lame "7zip to open the rom, drag and drop a few files, then re-zip" that some people (can they even be called people???) do... And stick away from theming something and calling it a rom.
It's just lame and not cool... But if you read up on how android works, you will get the hang quickly, and if you are knowledgeable about java, it should be easy to get going modifying things... Then you will truly join the "devs" and be one of the bunch
I have created a rom and themed it. But i wnt some performance tweaks and some apps which i could integrate in settings.apk
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I have created a rom and themed it. But i wnt some performance tweaks and some apps which i could integrate in settings.apk
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maybe u coulf add rom control with its tweaks?
So start looking at performance tweaks and such, and if you are adding some stuff to pre-compiled APKs then look into smali and the tools you need to use to manipulate it.
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So start looking at performance tweaks and such, and if you are adding some stuff to pre-compiled APKs then look into smali and the tools you need to use to manipulate it.
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Smali is too hard for me! I only undrstnd xml
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Smali is too hard for me! I only undrstnd xml
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If all you understand is XML then you are going to be hard pressed as what you want to do will need to be done by editing the smali or the Java source code
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Oh boy...I just love it when people start saying
"I'm building a ROM", "I'm doing dev work", "I want to be a recognized developer"
Then I make suggestions and I get "That's too hard", "Do you have a download link" "Cn u teac me hw mak a custm kernel?"
Yet they are totally unwilling to actually invest some time into these things and LEARN it.
Guy's Rome wasn't built in a day, and your ROM isn't going to be either. Look around, read, SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. Download other people's stuff not just to Kang it, rename/re-post it under your name, but to LEARN, to figure out how it works, so you can UNDERSTAND. This isn't like a store, where you walk in and go "I want one of those, and I'll take one of them, and please get me that, where can I find this, etc, etc." Make little modifications, tweaks on top of tweaks, and keep doing that until it's soemthing new, soemthing different, and THEN post it. But please don't limit yourself, to what is "Easy" or "Comfortable", it's not the way to get anywhere with real development work, much less in life. Put some time into it, and some effort. I really do wish you all luck, but you guys have to stop looking for the easy way to get some quick credit.
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@OP I know of zero performance modifications that you can do in XML, and if you are looking to use someone else's work and use that then start searching and make sure you ask before you use it.
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Oh boy...I just love it when people start saying
"I'm building a ROM", "I'm doing dev work", "I want to be a recognized developer"
Then I make suggestions and I get "That's too hard", "Do you have a download link" "Cn u teac me hw mak a custm kernel?"
Yet they are totally unwilling to actually invest some time into these things and LEARN it.
Guy's Rome wasn't built in a day, and your ROM isn't going to be either. Look around, read, SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. Download other people's stuff not just to Kang it, rename/re-post it under your name, but to LEARN, to figure out how it works, so you can UNDERSTAND. This isn't like a store, where you walk in and go "I want one of those, and I'll take one of them, and please get me that, where can I find this, etc, etc." Make little modifications, tweaks on top of tweaks, and keep doing that until it's soemthing new, soemthing different, and THEN post it. But please don't limit yourself, to what is "Easy" or "Comfortable", it's not the way to get anywhere with real development work, much less in life. Put some time into it, and some effort. I really do wish you all luck, but you guys have to stop looking for the easy way to get some quick credit.
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@OP I know of zero performance modifications that you can do in XML, and if you are looking to use someone else's work and use that then start searching and make sure you ask before you use it.
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This.
You won't develop a ROM overnight. Go learn some real programming and stop compiling other peoples work and making a ROM that is "your own."
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This.
You won't develop a ROM overnight. Go learn some real programming and stop compiling other peoples work and making a ROM that is "your own."
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Who are you referring it to? I cooked a rom and I think that I have made the rom. Of you don't have anything to help me then please don't comment. I don't understand smali but I know how to read tutorials and add more features in the rom by smali editing like swipe to remove, 14 toggle etc.
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I never ask for an easy way out. I add features in my rom manually!!
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He was being helpful, he is bringing up a attitude that is rampant here on XDA, namely the "cooking" of ROMs. There are WAY too many people who just cook a ROM in a kitchen and claim to have "developed" it. No, you just re-packaged somebody's work, it's not the same thing. I'm not saying it's useless, but it causes way to many "developer" wanna-be's that just aren't interested in actually learning something. Up above we posted suggestions and you responded with
Smali is too hard for me! I only undrstnd xml
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That creates the impression that you aren't wanting to try any other methods for creating ROMs. If you were trying to say that you don't know smali, then maybe you should have said something like,
I don't know smali so I'm not sure how well I could implement features like that. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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Not only is that easier to read, but it also communicates much more clearly what you are trying to say/ask. But the way that post is currently worded it makes it sound like you are just wanting to re-package somebody's work and use it as your own.
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He was being helpful, he is bringing up a attitude that is rampant here on XDA, namely the "cooking" of ROMs. There are WAY too many people who just cook a ROM in a kitchen and claim to have "developed" it. No, you just re-packaged somebody's work, it's not the same thing. I'm not saying it's useless, but it causes way to many "developer" wanna-be's that just aren't interested in actually learning something. Up above we posted suggestions and you responded with
That creates the impression that you aren't wanting to try any other methods for creating ROMs. If you were trying to say that you don't know smali, then maybe you should have said something like,
Not only is that easier to read, but it also communicates much more clearly what you are trying to say/ask. But the way that post is currently worded it makes it sound like you are just wanting to re-package somebody's work and use it as your own.
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This is very true, I'm new to porting and I'm starting with porting so I can learn the ins and outs of a rom so at a later time I can learn to develop, even in porting I've had to back smali and make some edits to get things working so sooner or later you will have to as well.. I'm currently reading a begginers guide on java for android.. Google is my best friend and I'm trying to learn as much as I can because I have an idea of my 'ideal' rom.. I can't wait for someone else to do it so I can port it and I know it will never be the way I want.. I'm doing it mainly for myself and I hope one day I can share with others
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Best thing to do is get on the good side of a dev and ask them to teach you, I had great help from some of the best devs on XDA, but as above its not something you can just learn easily, I already had a pretty good knowledge of Java and XMLs etc before i got a smart phone lol, If you stick to it then you should get somewhere, Java is a pain in the ass though, editing .smalis is probably the hardest thing for a new dev
Think About It
TO GET STARTED
Fix Bugs
Test it,
Decompile APKS and modify them if you have permission
Add features and tweaks
Put it up on git.
Help YOUR USERS and stop asking silly questions
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TO GET STARTED
Fix Bugs
Test it,
Decompile APKS and modify them if you have permission
Add features
Put it up on git
Help YOUR USERS and stop asking silly questions
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Done all dat.. Srry to ask dis question. Seems like people here are not helpful. Everyone is a flamer.
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Done all dat.. Srry to ask dis question. Seems like people here are not helpful. Everyone is a flamer.
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I haven't seen one post of someone flaming you in this thread. We tried to give you some advice and you said it was too "hard" so we all shut up and left you alone.
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I haven't seen one post of someone flaming you in this thread. We tried to give you some advice and you said it was too "hard" so we all shut up and left you alone.
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I prefer bein left alone so pls dont comment again..
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I prefer bein left alone so pls dont comment again..
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Well then you shouldn't have started the thread, I'm not trying to "flame" by any means... but if you wanna add some performance settings and mods I'll give you some advice thewadegeek gave me, take a look at aokps or cm9 or whoever's git repo you feel has some similar features to those you wish to add and start there, you'll get a good understanding of how everything works... at that point it comes to the fine details and making sure everything works.. when you have issues at that point you then can ask for help on getting the fine details fixed since at that time you'll have specific issues that someone can help with
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Well then you shouldn't have started the thread, I'm not trying to "flame" by any means... but if you wanna add some performance settings and mods I'll give you some advice thewadegeek gave me, take a look at aokps or cm9 or whoever's git repo you feel has some similar features to those you wish to add and start there, you'll get a good understanding of how everything works... at that point it comes to the fine details and making sure everything works.. when you have issues at that point you then can ask for help on getting the fine details fixed since at that time you'll have specific issues that someone can help with
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Thanks.. Thats what I wanted
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Thanks.. Thats what I wanted
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No problem man, good luck to ya
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Hello. I would appreciate it if someone would point me in the right direction of where to go to learn (from the very beginning) how to develop ROMs for the Rezound or even just AOSP. I am new to coding but I am willing to learn and have lots of time to put into it. I want to help contribute to the development of the Rezound and get us out of this lull. :good:
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Hello. I would appreciate it if someone would point me in the right direction of where to go to learn (from the very beginning) how to develop ROMs for the Rezound or even just AOSP. I am new to coding but I am willing to learn and have lots of time to put into it. I want to help contribute to the development of the Rezound and get us out of this lull. :good:
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Chef Central
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
Thank you. Sorry about not finding that on my own. :/
Just jump in there and do it. Get 7zip and start dissecting other roms to see how they work.
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Chef Central
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
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I am also very eager to learn and will probably be learning at the same pace as you maybe slower but I've ALWAYS been a quick learner. Maybe we can help each other. my email is [email protected]
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For sure man. Any help is appreciated. I'm trying to figure out where to start. I might just start with changing graphical things to see how that works and then go from there. Don't really know yet though.
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For sure man. Any help is appreciated. I'm trying to figure out where to start. I might just start with changing graphical things to see how that works and then go from there. Don't really know yet though.
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Yeah man. I guess we could just learn and try the basics and the quickly we learn we will most likely hit the advanced levels of Rom Development pretty soon. Should we start with the STOCK Rezound rom?
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I want to start win the graphics because you can't mess too much up playing with graphics and I will get the feel of. Where things are located. I think I am goin to start from the newest ics leak stock. And then move to the official ota when it comes out. Sound like a good plan?
Thanks for the link, kzoodroid. Been thinking about possibly starting up ROM'ing for a bit now, just never knew where to start.
I haven't had any code projects to work on since I got out of college for summer break... weird that I'm slightly itching to code lol.
Working on a ROM using the kitchen. It's really good for showing you a lot of things you need to do for basics (deodexing, zipaligning, etc.) Just remember that it is "basic" and you can't completely construct a ROM just using the kitchen. Great way to get started :good:
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I want to start win the graphics because you can't mess too much up playing with graphics and I will get the feel of. Where things are located. I think I am goin to start from the newest ics leak stock. And then move to the official ota when it comes out. Sound like a good plan?
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WHEEW.. high five. Alright.. I'm right there with ya.
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Awesome! Ha. I'm gonna look for the kitchen tonight when I get out of work... I think it's a few steps inside my back door. I should be able to find it just fine
Also... I if anyone knows of any straight to the point videos about how the kitchen works or basic ROM building, please post links. Or make one! That would be great too
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Awesome! Ha. I'm gonna look for the kitchen tonight when I get out of work... I think it's a few steps inside my back door. I should be able to find it just fine
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HAAAAA don't get distracted by the beer in the fridge lol
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http://www.speedtest.net/android/210112746.png
Dig through the Chef Central forum, looks like a lot of good info there.
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Building Sense based ROMs using dsixda's kitchen is pretty straight forawrd, hardest part was seting it up to run on a windows pc. You pretty much just end up with a deodexed, zipaligned ROM. I haven't done this with my Rezound but have built ones for the Incredible and Eris. You can also de-sense ROMs easily witht his too. Its a good tool to learn teh basics. The next step up is to learn to compile from source or to port over a ROM from another device.
AOSP
http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
Guide to Porting (Droid Incredible thread so not sure if its the same for the Rezound but it will give you an idea)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169570
Guide to decompiling and compiling using baksmali and smali (need to know this to modify files without creating a custom ROM)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732635
Still looking for video breakdown of essentials if anyone has some. It's not that I can't do it myself, I just like being visually showed how to do things when I start something new. Thanks
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Still looking for video breakdown of essentials if anyone has some. It's not that I can't do it myself, I just like being visually showed how to do things when I start something new. Thanks
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You can't really be shown how to make a ROM. Every Rom is different, and requires different steps.
Yeah I understand that but I mean like for finding where things are located and what some important things do
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theres no shortcut to learning how to make roms
id say a large portion of rom devs started out by theming...helps to learn the files structures and what does what...as well as becoming familiar w/ apktool, smali, etc
biggest lesson that few seem to hit out the park on the first try? credit
if using other peoples stuff, make sure to credit them properly :good:
What do people use as a base for the sense 4 roms?
So yeah, like it says above. Is there a dev who wouldn't mind teaching me some things? I'm not exactly a noob. Have an IT degree and experience writing in C++. No expert, but I learn quickly.
Would love to improve the dev community for this phone and many others in the future. Know devs don't really come into the general section a lot, but if u do or could pass it along I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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I would PM some of the top ones here and see what they say.
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I'm no developer (just working on apps, not ROMs), but I would suggest you read this thread. As Cyanogen says, you should start by learning some Java and working on an app or two. I would suggest acquiring a book to help you get started.
I started off with this guide for getting started with apps. I would suggest reading through the links in Cyanogen's thread and continuing from there.
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I'm no developer (just working on apps, not ROMs), but I would suggest you read this thread. As Cyanogen says, you should start by learning some Java and working on an app or two. I would suggest acquiring a book to help you get started.
I started off with this guide for getting started with apps. I would suggest reading through the links in Cyanogen's thread and continuing from there.
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Thanks, went thru that thread. Cyanogen's post was really informative. Me and a friend taught ourselves java when we were 15. But that's been 15 years, millions of brain cells, and seems like 2 lives ago.
Have to relearn it again. Remember back then we read java for dummies, lol. Anyone remember those? Taught us html pretty well, but I used that more than java.
Will check my local library for what they have and youtube tonight for tutorials.
Thanks again
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Anthonicia,good luck and thanks for wanting to contribute.
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Definately a step in the right direction man ive been trying to do the samething with themeing ive taught myself a little along the way but found a buddy on here thats an awesome themer by the name of dased14 im sure some of you know him from the 3d anyways just wanted to give you the best of luck and hope to soon run a rom of yours
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So yeah, like it says above. Is there a dev who wouldn't mind teaching me some things? I'm not exactly a noob. Have an IT degree and experience writing in C++. No expert, but I learn quickly.
Would love to improve the dev community for this phone and many others in the future. Know devs don't really come into the general section a lot, but if u do or could pass it along I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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Sounds like you have an aptitude for these things, if your like me you learn best with the hands on approach.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010 ADB for dummies by VanillaTbone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246 Dsixda's kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272270 The Beginner's guide to rom development by isidromxz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320891 Interactive Phone Modification Guide OP by pstevep, MANY MANY guides by some of the best themers, devs and contributors on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623 Android Utility by tommytomatoe, full of jewels of wisdom, read start to finish!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623 how-to "What do you know about rosie?" by tommytomato
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705800 how-to unpack Android Roms on Windows by nikoan89 Great for learning how to extract system and boot.img's, very helpful if you want to base from RUU
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
Thanks for all the kind words and info. I really doubt I will have a rom out anytime soon. Have a few ideas for apps I would like to work on, so if that is the best way to learn then ill probably try that route.
It is all created by man, so the logic comes easy to me at times. Well, if it makes sense anyways. Sometimes I smh in frustration, "why did they decide to do it like this when the opposite makes so much sense?".
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Thanks for all the kind words and info. I really doubt I will have a rom out anytime soon. Have a few ideas for apps I would like to work on, so if that is the best way to learn then ill probably try that route.
It is all created by man, so the logic comes easy to me at times. Well, if it makes sense anyways. Sometimes I smh in frustration, "why did they decide to do it like this when the opposite makes so much sense?".
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Do yourself a favor, NEVER fall back on construction. Everything is backwards and nothing is done right anymore. Lol
If your wanting to get into apk development there is a video guide tutorial that's excellent. Very comprehensive guide and its easy to follow along. Can't think of the OP's user name atm, I'll post a link later when I get home.
EDIT: Sorry for the delay, this isn't the video guide but not too bad- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1244196
[Ultimate Guide][Part 10 released][12/11/2011]Android App Development - From Scratch by, michael.the.don
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
Where to start? I'm seventeen years old, and this is what I want to go towards going forward into life: developing! But the problem is I don't know where to start. I figured this would be the perfect forum to get some guidance. Please teach me
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krobinso2295 said:
Where to start? I'm seventeen years old, and this is what I want to towards going forward into life: developing! But the problem is I don't know where to start. I figured this would be the perfect forum to get some guidance. Please teach me
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I will definitely start at the Android tutorials sub forum.
Do you have unlimited data allowance? As I have found out first hand, this is a crucial factor in the way you will learn and progress because a lot of the good tutorials are in the form of YT videos.
krobinso2295 said:
Where to start? I'm seventeen years old, and this is what I want to go towards going forward into life: developing! But the problem is I don't know where to start. I figured this would be the perfect forum to get some guidance. Please teach me
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Also depends on what you actually want to developer. ROMs? Android apps? Games? Something else? They all require slightly different routes. But a good understanding of programming in general will be a very good help in anything you do
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zacthespack said:
Also depends on what you actually want to developer. ROMs? Android apps? Games? Something else? They all require slightly different routes. But a good understanding of programming in general will be a very good help in anything you do
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I really want to do roms and apps. I just really wish I could find someone that would be interested in mentoring of something haha... But I mainly am looking to do roms and apps.
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krobinso2295 said:
I really want to do roms and apps. I just really wish I could find someone that would be interested in mentoring of something haha... But I mainly am looking to do roms and apps.
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I'm your age too I do developing primarily on computers though and I have been doing that for a couple of years now. I can say that the best place to start is to learn a programming language. Most Android apps are coded using Java so, if you have some experience with coding learning Java would help you alot. But if you have little to no experience coding I would suggest you start off with something like C maybe even python but syntax is very different compared to Java so C is recommended. After you have enough experience with that I'm sure you can jump into building ROMs.
Good Luck!
gr1m.r34p3r said:
I'm your age too I do developing primarily on computers though and I have been doing that for a couple of years now. I can say that the best place to start is to learn a programming language. Most Android apps are coded using Java so, if you have some experience with coding learning Java would help you alot. But if you have little to no experience coding I would suggest you start off with something like C maybe even python but syntax is very different compared to Java so C is recommended. After you have enough experience with that I'm sure you can jump into building ROMs.
Good Luck!
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Are there any books you recommend?
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my problem is I don't have a unique and practical idea. I'd wish I could come up with something that would be lucrative & beneficial but those ideas are limited and I wouldn't want to do something someone else has already done.
If I wanted to learn I'd get the latest Android Studio & follow some "Hello World"- type walkthroughs. I'd think YouTube vids would be helpful.
Then try to latch on to an open source project since I'd have an existing project to see how it's done.
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Are there any books you recommend?
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I've always found Head First Series to be good. Try Head First C or if your feeling confident try Head First Android Development. But adding on to what jawz101 said the best way to learn a programming language really well is to do your own project, also, check out "professional" open source projects to learn the style and even some tricks of the trade.