Hi,
since we already got Bravia Engine, xLoud, DLNA. is it possible if we add Sony Exmor R into x10? i sometimes take pictures at night club, even with light on and Bravia Engine by Z, the picture still not satisfying.
Uhh...
Pretty sure the Exmor R Sensor on the Arc is a physical hardware sensor on the phone...
No dice.
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Frosty666 said:
Uhh...
Pretty sure the Exmor R Sensor on the Arc is a physical hardware sensor on the phone...
No dice.
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What if we tear an Arc up, detach the lens and attach them on the X10?
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My_Immortal said:
What if we tear an Arc up, detach the lens and attach them on the X10?
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LOL
I think you still need to write the drivers for it....
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aR_ChRiS said:
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I think you still need to write the drivers for it....
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No need, just steal them from arc's ROM.
Ya,we can do that,i think
or we make imaginary sensor controlled by software...
just like zoom (real camera using hardware where lense moving in and out but phone just using software)
crazy isnt it?
LOL
Malaysia Boleh!
krobar77 said:
LOL
Malaysia Boleh!
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Lolz funny.
Arnold.Alexius said:
Hi,
since we already got Bravia Engine, xLoud, DLNA. is it possible if we add Sony Exmor R into x10? i sometimes take pictures at night club, even with light on and Bravia Engine by Z, the picture still not satisfying.
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Taking pictures: its more to do with the photographer then the camera. I bet if you give me an extreme low end camera I can still get a decent picture from it.
Dont use auto focus in such low light such as a club...use infinity.....if you dont keep steady when you press that shutter button your gonna end up with a blurry picture because under low light your shutter speed will be to slow. The flash on the X10 sucks and isnt anywhere close enough to compensate for the slow shutter speed. Ive taken pictures in clubs with this exact phone...by resting my elbows on a table to help keep as steady as possible my pictures have been really good considering.
Exmore r is hardware sony uses (sensor) even in the mid-high end point & shoots....therefore cannot be used on our X10.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Taking pictures: its more to do with the photographer then the camera. I bet if you give me an extreme low end camera I can still get a decent picture from it.
Dont use auto focus in such low light such as a club...use infinity.....if you dont keep steady when you press that shutter button your gonna end up with a blurry picture because under low light your shutter speed will be to slow. The flash on the X10 sucks and isnt anywhere close enough to compensate for the slow shutter speed. Ive taken pictures in clubs with this exact phone...by resting my elbows on a table to help keep as steady as possible my pictures have been really good considering.
Exmore r is hardware sony uses (sensor) even in the mid-high end point & shoots....therefore cannot be used on our X10.
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Glad to see there is one person at least here that knows the fundamentals of photography and possibly even more.
Someone has to read some things about taking night pictures the importance of existing light and how exactly your shutter behaves when you are in night capture mode rather than requesting better hardware thinking that he's asking about software or some kind of MOD (aka Exmore R).
hey guys this is a spoof thread here about x10 cam, i though i could get some for my cam but figure out that i my end up getting an app or widget of a sensor heheheeh and that will make my cam to work at night heheheeh
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Hello Guys, Im new to this forum with N number of Qns , because Im just a beginner of the smart phone users. I have got a new SE Xperia x10 and was very excited to capture the pictures using 8.1M camera.. But unfortunately the quality of the pictures that I have taken so far made me disappoint, still the HD video recording looks good. My question here is when the Video quality is good, how can the image quality be poor that we use the same camera for both the purpose. Also, is there any fix available to improve the camera quality, because i strongly believe that its not a hardware issue.
Thanks in advance
Most people have found that using a camera app called "Vignette" improves photos taken greatly.
Here is a link to it in the Android Market: https://market.android.com/details?id=uk.co.neilandtheresa.NewVignette&feature=search_result
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Most people have found that using a camera app called "Vignette" improves photos taken greatly.
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hmm..Let me also have a try.. but can anyone shed some light on my question, rather than finding out an alternate solution, Im very curious to know about the cause of the poor Image quality with a "8.1" camera
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hmm..Let me also have a try.. but can anyone shed some light on my question, rather than finding out an alternate solution, Im very curious to know about the cause of the poor Image quality with a "8.1" camera
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Didnt i answer this last night for you?
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Yes.. However I'm still not clear about what could be the possible reasons for a 8.1MP camera to perform so badly while dealing with the still images, but works good while dealing with the Video recording..Hardware or Software or Settings or etc..????. I beg your pardon if I have been so much curious.
One thread is enough.
Also, practise with the camera.
It's one of the best 8MP phones so the problem shouldn't be the phone
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Yes.. However I'm still not clear about what could be the possible reasons for a 8.1MP camera to perform so badly while dealing with the still images, but works good while dealing with the Video recording..Hardware or Software or Settings or etc..????. I beg your pardon if I have been so much curious.
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I really think you need to learn more about photography. Mp dont mean anything when it comes to camera quality. I take outstanding pictures with this phone...and if you would like a link to another forum on pictures taken with this camera i can show you....it will blow your mind. I already explained how to get the best out of your camera in another thread. Did you turn off image stabiliser?
Do you expect dslr quality from a smartphone? Cuz it wont happen.
I would strongly suggest practicing with your camera like flo said.
Im not trying to be rude, im really not. But this is one of the best camera phones out there believe it or not.
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Yes.. below are my settings
Capturing mode : Normal
Resolution : 8MP
Scenes : Normal
Focus Mode : Infinity
-2---------0----------+2 is set in 0 ( I dont know what is that +/- symbol means)
Photolight : off
Self-timer : off
Metering :Spot
White Balance : Auto
Image Stabiliser : off
Smile Level : Normal Smile
Geo Tagging : off
Shutter Sound : sound1
If you share the settings of yours , I may also be able to take awesome pictures as you have been taking ;-)
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Yes.. below are my settings
Capturing mode : Normal
Resolution : 8MP
Scenes : Normal
Focus Mode : Infinity
-2---------0----------+2 is set in 0 ( I dont know what is that +/- symbol means)
Photolight : off
Self-timer : off
Metering :Spot
White Balance : Auto
Image Stabiliser : off
Smile Level : Normal Smile
Geo Tagging : off
Shutter Sound : sound1
If you share the settings of yours , I may also be able to take awesome pictures as you have been taking ;-)
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Ok, here are my settings:
Capturing Mode: Normal
Resolution: 6mp Wide (16:9) I use that more that 8mp because I like the widescreen pictures...and remember lower mp doesn't mean less quality!
Scenes: Normal
Focus Mode: Infinity...or macro for close up shots
photo light: always off
self timer: off
metering: Center weighted or average...spot metering is used for when your taking a picture and the light from the background is darkening your subject. Its not what you wanna use all the time...only for those situations when needed. average metering also known as matrix would be the most accurate.
White Balance: depends...if its cloudy outside ill use cloudy, if its bright and sunny ill use daylight or just auto. Most of the time I stick with auto. But playing with it properly gets nice results
image stabilser: always always off!
smile level: Normal
the +/- is the EV control I was talking about. yes it goes from -2 to +2.
And here is how I always always use it.
if its bright and sunny outside, or you just have alot of light, I will usually lower it to -1 or -0.7
Inside pictures, or low light situations I lower it to about -0.3 maybe -0.7. What that does if darkens the photo but eliminates low light noise.
Try that for a while and see what kind of pics you get. Also, keep a steady hand. When I take pictures with my phone I wrap both hands around the phone and hold it firmly to reduce any hand shake that might happen. I just find that works best for me.
@manussnair: Check your PM.
Thanks
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Ok, here are my settings:
Capturing Mode: Normal
Resolution: 6mp Wide (16:9) I use that more that 8mp because I like the widescreen pictures...and remember lower mp doesn't mean less quality!
Scenes: Normal
Focus Mode: Infinity...or macro for close up shots
photo light: always off
self timer: off
metering: Center weighted or average...spot metering is used for when your taking a picture and the light from the background is darkening your subject. Its not what you wanna use all the time...only for those situations when needed. average metering also known as matrix would be the most accurate.
White Balance: depends...if its cloudy outside ill use cloudy, if its bright and sunny ill use daylight or just auto. Most of the time I stick with auto. But playing with it properly gets nice results
image stabilser: always always off!
smile level: Normal
the +/- is the EV control I was talking about. yes it goes from -2 to +2.
And here is how I always always use it.
if its bright and sunny outside, or you just have alot of light, I will usually lower it to -1 or -0.7
Inside pictures, or low light situations I lower it to about -0.3 maybe -0.7. What that does if darkens the photo but eliminates low light noise.
Try that for a while and see what kind of pics you get. Also, keep a steady hand. When I take pictures with my phone I wrap both hands around the phone and hold it firmly to reduce any hand shake that might happen. I just find that works best for me.
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This is awesome dude !! This is the kind of information that I was looking for as I have never been an expert in handing the machines;whatever they are...
Now let me start playing around with it
manussnair said:
This is awesome dude !! This is the kind of information that I was looking for as I have never been an expert in handing the machines;whatever they are...
Now let me start playing around with it
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Dont forget to check your PM
And to inspire you, go here
And Mr Patchy is right, its not about Megapixels. Heck you can even take great photos with a 2 mp cell camera.
clixt said:
And to inspire you, go here
And Mr Patchy is right, its not about Megapixels. Heck you can even take great photos with a 2 mp cell camera.
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Man, i remember my old sony ericsson k790a. I think it was a 3.2mp camera phone, but holly **** the quality was awesome!! I believe it had xenon flash to if i remember correctly.
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Man, i remember my old sony ericsson k790a. I think it was a 3.2mp camera phone, but holly **** the quality was awesome!! I believe it had xenon flash to if i remember correctly.
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Yep I know.
the software is what determines the quality you are looking for. The camera will construct the picture/video information like pixel info, frames, etc. but the software is responsible for cleaning it up.
i find the X10's camera amazing, it takes crystal clear pictures IMO and i can even use them as wallpapers on my PC and they are still clear.
the X10 will always be the best
no idea :-I mine is in a gud quality.. hehe
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Eventhough this video is in 720p but still the focus and the clarity is just amazingg... This time Sony came with something very innovative and creative...
I just love the cameraa... Hats off to Sony..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDhcXuOND58&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Absolutely agree mate, clarity is fantastic!
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Huge improvement over the X10. Loving my S!
Yes the camera in this phone is freaking amazing! The pictures it takes are looking very nice!
Korumera said:
Yes the camera in this phone is freaking amazing! The pictures it takes are looking very nice!
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Yep indeed
Any tips how to get decent low light camera shoots. Every camera shoot I take it becomes blurry.
Turn image stabiliser on and in low light use one of the night modes. Only disadvantage is you can take steady pictures (nobody moves and you don't move camera). But people have to bear in mind, it is camera phone, not proper digital camera, where you have 10 other options to use, like shutter timing.
This video was taken in auto mode..
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Any tips how to get decent low light camera shoots. Every camera shoot I take it becomes blurry.
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agree, that's why I chosen to bought XPS. xD
Camera is good no doubt but coming from xperia Arc , I expected more. Image quality is nearly identical to Arc and looses up against '8MP' Iphone 4S camera in terms of sharpness and colours from the pics I saw over the internet. I do not understand why are they not proving Xenon flash. It would have made camera even more useful. Somehow I feel Sony is not trying its best. Potential is there to make a perfect phone but Sony fails to deliver the killing punch. And this is coming from Sony lover
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Camera is good no doubt but coming from xperia Arc , I expected more. Image quality is nearly identical to Arc and looses up against '8MP' Iphone 4S camera in terms of sharpness and colours from the pics I saw over the internet. I do not understand why are they not proving Xenon flash. It would have made camera even more useful. Somehow I feel Sony is not trying its best. Potential is there to make a perfect phone but Sony fails to deliver the killing punch. And this is coming from Sony lover
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Had a similar experience between the C902(5MP) to X10(8MP) where the resolution went up the actual picture quality is equal or lower.
My front camera is very dark and can not be used for anything other than showing your silhouette when putting your head infront of a bright light I will post pictures of a bright room. Taken from the front camera and the back. Is any one else having this problem?
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If u post the image of the pics taken from the front n back camera mayb we can tell the quality compared to our tablets....
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My front camera is very dark and can not be used for anything other than showing your silhouette when putting your head infront of a bright light I will post pictures of a bright room. Taken from the front camera and the back. Is any one else having this problem?
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I have the same problem: images from the front camera are too dark. Useless for video chat unless the face is illuminated directly by a strong light source.
Luckily, I don't generally use video chat, so it's not a deal-breaker for me. But still, an annoyance.
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If u post the image of the pics taken from the front n back camera mayb we can tell the quality compared to our tablets....
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I'm in Cambodia atm so the not so stable Internet makes it tough for me to post photos but they are on the way.
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Yes, I agree, got my S yesterday, n checked the front camera n the image is blakish until u put light on face.
Its gonna be very difficult for video chatting.
It's strange this is from a natural source of light. And it is a lot better. Maybe it could be something to do with the type of light. I'am glad it is not only me.
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lloytizzle said:
It's strange this is from a natural source of light. And it is a lot better. Maybe it could be something to do with the type of light. I'am glad it is not only me.
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The front cam is ok wen it is focussed on natural light even I to face the same problem...
The cam is dark wen I take it to my room for video chat but its absolutely fine when I take it out to sunlight
So it depends on the type of light and the brightness of light
So in short dont worry your tab and cam is ok there is no defect....guess since it is 0.3mp. It dosent have the ability to capture dim light perfectly....
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The front cam is ok wen it is focussed on natural light even I to face the same problem...
The cam is dark wen I take it to my room for video chat but its absolutely fine when I take it out to sunlight
So it depends on the type of light and the brightness of light
So in short dont worry your tab and cam is ok there is no defect....guess since it is 0.3mp. It dosent have the ability to capture dim light perfectly....
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I agree on that, its dim and dark only when inside room, but in natural bright sunlight or where there is more light, it acts normally.
I don't have this problem when video chatting with my friend using QQ, but they are all during day time.
Did any1 tried ooVoo video chat??
Dont have the tablet right now, try to get the .apk file from mobile and install into tablet...
from xperia PLAY
xperiax10.awesome said:
Did any1 tried ooVoo video chat??
Dont have the tablet right now, try to get the .apk file from mobile and install into tablet...
from xperia PLAY
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Yeah I'll try to get that and see if it makes a difference.
Here is a picture with the front camera (the dark picture)
And the other is a picture using the back camera (the light picture)
It is not an exaggeration they are both in the same amount of light. The light is artifical light.
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Front Cam & Back Cam Test!!!
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It's almost painful. Is there any sort of update or modification that could change this or is those purely a hardware problem?
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A quick snap shot using the front camera in day time witout any artificial lighting.
lloytizzle said:
It's almost painful. Is there any sort of update or modification that could change this or is those purely a hardware problem?
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Have u tried ooVoo for video chat, check the facebook page for ooVoo and download, video quality is better than skype..
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Kermit33 said:
A quick snap shot using the front camera in day time witout any artificial lighting.
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Kermit you ostentatious pig. That painting is worth millions of dollars! ;-)
xperiax10.awesome said:
Have u tried ooVoo for video chat, check the facebook page for ooVoo and download, video quality is better than skype..
from xperia PLAY
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I'am not sure it is the software I'm using is the problem but when it is compatible with Sony Tablet S I will. Ps I can't wait till I get home to my Xperia play it's been almost 5 months.
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Beta version of ooVoo is available for Sony Tablet S.
Check the facebook..
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lloytizzle said:
Kermit you ostentatious pig. That painting is worth millions of dollars! ;-)
Only if it's the original
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It is strange, when I open the camera then click on front camera in the morning when I wake up that time the image quality is great and clear but after sometime till night the camera just dies and blakish pics. Not just during Skype, even while using normal camera app.
Anyone more with this annoying problem? Btw, I am stil on HC 3.2 that came from factory, didn't even update for ps3 controller update.
weaponXandroid said:
It is strange, when I open the camera then click on front camera in the morning when I wake up that time the image quality is great and clear but after sometime till night the camera just dies and blakish pics. Not just during Skype, even while using normal camera app.
Anyone more with this annoying problem? Btw, I am stil on HC 3.2 that came from factory, didn't even update for ps3 controller update.
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As i said in the prev replies the front cam works great during morning ie in natural light sometimes in artificial light also but it is awfull during night ie only in artificial light
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lloytizzle said:
It's almost painful. Is there any sort of update or modification that could change this or is those purely a hardware problem?
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Its assumed tht its a hardware issue in all sony tablets regarding its capacity to catch artificial light
So in short nothing can be done about it for time being
The Camera of Xperia S performs very good durind daylight conditions but at night the pictures seems to have a bit noise. Although there's no focussing problems now. I use Stock Camera app and sometimes Camera 360 for taking pics. Can u all suggest me some good apps/settings to reduce noise in low light/night pictures as well as to improve overall picture quality!
Please suggest something!
Try UCam and just play with settings. Don't use auto settings. Its working for me.
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nrp31 said:
The Camera of Xperia S performs very good durind daylight conditions but at night the pictures seems to have a bit noise. Although there's no focussing problems now. I use Stock Camera app and sometimes Camera 360 for taking pics. Can u all suggest me some good apps/settings to reduce noise in low light/night pictures as well as to improve overall picture quality!
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As For this Low Light Struggling Of Our Beautiful 12 MP Camera
I Found This To Be A Little Helpful (Although his Is For Xperia Arc Still Helpful)
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/162197#162197#162197
And As For App Ty Using ProCapture
Its Noise Reduction Feature Is Good,And It Does Not Compress The Size Of The Photo Taken! (Like The Sony Stock):cyclops:
Thank you for your advices...I'l check it out
PS I have hit the thanks meter...so dont worry
Also
nrp31 said:
Thank you for your advices...I'l check it out
PS I have hit the thanks meter...so dont worry
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Well I Found This Also
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/170676#170676 (Specialised For Xperia S)
Anime13 said:
Well I Found This Also
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/170676#170676 (Specialised For Xperia S)
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Thanks Mate..but proCamera itself has so many options and i also do see dat the noise is a bit reduced now and the pictures have got relief of the default sony compression
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Please suggest something!
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Put a big flash on it and increase the sensor size, that's the only way.
I just wanted to ask the same question, the primary reason that I bought this phone is due to its camera ..tho the stock app kind of disappointing and seems the rom doesn't really fully take advantage of the camera itself..
Anime13 said:
Well I Found This Also
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/170676#170676 (Specialised For Xperia S)
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Thank you very much , i apreiciate you posting this , i am now able to set my xperia S camera To take better pictures than auto Scan
:victory:
Don't know if this problem is asked before, but its really bad with the camera when it comes to focusing in ICS...
was far better with GB...!!!
But recently i tried on Xperia Acro S, which also had ICS, but it doesn't have a hint of this issue, the camera just focuses
right away even in low light and the image is stunning sharp.
I know its a 12MP, but still whats holding the focus, i don't understand....!!!
Please if anybody out there can find a better solution to this...
Also in another way. is it possible to port the camera app from GB to ICS..??
the xperia sola's camera performs like s*** especially in low light, i haven't experienced that while using cm9 though.
I agree, GB was quite good with the camera.
That's not the case with ICS though, before .54 it was even worse as it couldnt even take the pic when it turned on the led and it took it half a second later.
With .54 now, it's much better but camera app lags like hell and sometimes it reboots.
poor night vision!
same is the case with my sxu...day photographs are really good..but night pics are really bad...night mode seems to be of no use and flash is too bright!
So is it possible to port the camera app from GB to ICS..?? anyone..????
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So is it possible to port the camera app from GB to ICS..?? anyone..????
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I dont think so, they are different systems but may be devs will tell.
i have too
i have the same problem.. After ICS, camera focus speed is very very bad in the weak light areas, how can we fix it?
avorlair said:
i have the same problem.. After ICS, camera focus speed is very very bad in the weak light areas, how can we fix it?
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BUMP seems like a problem of all devices form the 2012 lineup
It's more than a software provlem, I think. Maybe the ICS cam driver has been written badly.
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Asycid said:
It's more than a software provlem, I think. Maybe the ICS cam driver has been written badly.
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yes - maybe some of the cybershot mods actually solves this one ? that's why I'm asking if anyone managed to fix this yet ?
sola cam focus
wbgenetic said:
yes - maybe some of the cybershot mods actually solves this one ? that's why I'm asking if anyone managed to fix this yet ?
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i tryed Cyber-Shot Mod and all things, many xperia sola ICS roms, kernels and i cant solve it
Guys, all of you missing a point. If you are using even standard camera not phone cam, might be a problem to focus in low light. Its caused by sensor sensitivity. Its very small, doesnt matter how much megapixels or how big iso. Sensitivity is only one and iso gets higher with software. All you need is contrast. Try a small test, get low light and try focus into complete dark, you will not get focus, even with DSLR you get nothing. But find a spot where dark gets lighter and try focus, you will get something.
Most cameras these days are using small light to get a bit of light into darkness, if you have this function, use it and you will get better low light focusing.
Its not a bug, its a physics.
EDIT: sola doesnt have this functionality. But you can still focus in spot where is high contrast e.g. light dark place in actual pic. Or use flashlight to get some light. And you canask rizal, cyber shot creator, to add this functionality into cyber shot mod.
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