Have it, Love it, It's Going Back... - HTC Jetstream

I got it on Sunday. I have a GT 10.1 Wi-Fi that I'm using until I get a GT 10.1 3G that's back-ordered from the UK. Spec wise, other than the weight, the Jetstream seems perfect. HTC did a great job with the UI too.
But, like all HTC devices, video playback is screwed up and streaming video is something I use a lot on a tablet. Neither Plex nor PlayOn, the two biggest streaming apps, work on the Jetstream but work fine out of the box on the GT. It also doesn't natively play MKV files which I have about a terabyte of. There are work-arounds via the market for MKV support but for $700 HTC should have been more thorough in their video support and implementation. The dev group at Plex is looking at a logcat file to see what the screw up is but I don't have a lot of hope. There's actually no dedicated video player in the Jetstream. You have to open a video via the library to get it to play. Wierd. Other than the weight and lack of video support there's a lot to like about the Jetstream. But the video issue(s) are a deal breaker (at least for me). So, back it goes.

BarryH_GEG said:
I got it on Sunday. I have a GT 10.1 Wi-Fi that I'm using until I get a GT 10.1 3G that's back-ordered from the UK. Spec wise, other than the weight, the Jetstream seems perfect. HTC did a great job with the UI too.
But, like all HTC devices, video playback is screwed up and streaming video is something I use a lot on a tablet. Neither Plex nor PlayOn, the two biggest streaming apps, work on the Jetstream but work fine out of the box on the GT. It also doesn't natively play MKV files which I have about a terabyte of. There are work-arounds via the market for MKV support but for $700 HTC should have been more thorough in their video support and implementation. The dev group at Plex is looking at a logcat file to see what the screw up is but I don't have a lot of hope. There's actually no dedicated video player in the Jetstream. You have to open a video via the library to get it to play. Wierd. Other than the weight and lack of video support there's a lot to like about the Jetstream. But the video issue(s) are a deal breaker (at least for me). So, back it goes.
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I haven't tried any of those apps yet on mine, so I can't speak if I can get them to work or not, however I did manually install the Netflix apk as it wasn't available for the device in the market directly and it installed and worked perfectly. So as far as streaming video at least there is one working option so far.
- Dan

BarryH_GEG said:
I got it on Sunday. I have a GT 10.1 Wi-Fi that I'm using until I get a GT 10.1 3G that's back-ordered from the UK. Spec wise, other than the weight, the Jetstream seems perfect. HTC did a great job with the UI too.
But, like all HTC devices, video playback is screwed up and streaming video is something I use a lot on a tablet. Neither Plex nor PlayOn, the two biggest streaming apps, work on the Jetstream but work fine out of the box on the GT. It also doesn't natively play MKV files which I have about a terabyte of. There are work-arounds via the market for MKV support but for $700 HTC should have been more thorough in their video support and implementation. The dev group at Plex is looking at a logcat file to see what the screw up is but I don't have a lot of hope. There's actually no dedicated video player in the Jetstream. You have to open a video via the library to get it to play. Wierd. Other than the weight and lack of video support there's a lot to like about the Jetstream. But the video issue(s) are a deal breaker (at least for me). So, back it goes.
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yea plex doesn't work... i emailed them a log file......however, emit does work.
https://market.android.com/details?id=tv.wpn.biokoda.android.emitfree

B"H
Sorry to hear about the Jetstream.
Just out of curiosity, there are many websites here in the USA that have the Galaxy 10.1 3G in stock, like onthegosolutions.com
Not sure why you are waiting for the units from England? Is there a difference?
Thanks.

dovid said:
B"H
Sorry to hear about the Jetstream.
Just out of curiosity, there are many websites here in the USA that have the Galaxy 10.1 3G in stock, like onthegosolutions.com
Not sure why you are waiting for the units from England? Is there a difference?
Thanks.
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All the 3G units currently available in the U.S. are 16GB (I want 32GB or 64GB) and sourced from either Latin America or South Africa. The units from the UK have XEU firmware which pretty much covers all of Europe. It's updated much more frequently and comes with things left out in the U.S. like Reader's Hub. UK units also come with a two-year warranty. The new release date is 9/30.

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Disappointed no BBC iPlayer on the Ace

There was a time that us Galaxy Ace owners could gloat having an inferior phone to the iPhone users and still be able to watch iplayer through apps such as beebplayer. Well the table has turned and now iphone users gloat that they have iplayer and we don't even have a functional non official one. I know that we can install a modified Flash Player and a BBC iplayer.apk file but in all honesty, it lags so much that it is in reality non functioning. I mean who are we to kidd? BeebPlayer no longer works and there seems to be no other alternative. iphone now not only has iplayer, but also ITV player, 4oD etc. and it's not exactly the most powerful phone around.
I know this sounds like a rant but I think this just lets the s5830 big time. A phone perfectly capable of playing iplayer videos but cannot because of BBC's selfishness. I would like to know if any one else has been successfully with iplayer on the Ace (with no lag) on other roms.
.....let's just say there's more iPhone devs .
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
Gizmotech said:
There was a time that us Galaxy Ace owners could gloat having an inferior phone to the iPhone users and still be able to watch iplayer through apps such as beebplayer. Well the table has turned and now iphone users gloat that they have iplayer and we don't even have a functional non official one. I know that we can install a modified Flash Player and a BBC iplayer.apk file but in all honesty, it lags so much that it is in reality non functioning. I mean who are we to kidd? BeebPlayer no longer works and there seems to be no other alternative. iphone now not only has iplayer, but also ITV player, 4oD etc. and it's not exactly the most powerful phone around.
I know this sounds like a rant but I think this just lets the s5830 big time. A phone perfectly capable of playing iplayer videos but cannot because of BBC's selfishness. I would like to know if any one else has been successfully with iplayer on the Ace (with no lag) on other roms.
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The biggest issue running the iplayer on a low end phone comes from the BBC recently removing low quality streams that made it useable. Want to use the iplayer? You need a better phone.
They removed low quality streaming because there were a lot of complaints over quality of service. Things may improve when 3G streaming is enabled, but the best option is always going to be to buy a decent phone the Beeb support.
I also miss the option of Beebplayer and MyPlayer. Blame the BBC for issuing C&D's.
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Apologies if it bothers anyone resurrecting this thread (I can never understand why), but BBC on their blog claim that they can't provide a similar app to that of Apple because Gingerbread devices do no have HLS support. The Solbox HLS Player claims to provide that it can integrate that feature to the native browser. If that was the case then that would mean that we should then be able to go to the BBC Iplayer website and stream video as it should then support HTML5. Now I wanted to try this but cannot access the full desktop site to do so. Can anyone give there thoughts on this.?

Questions about Flyer - general and 3G (T-Mobile)

Interested in the device, but have three quick questions:
-Any way to use it for voice calls with Honeycomb? I know it's possible with Honeycomb in general based off the Galaxy Tab 7.7, and I've seen guides to enable voice calls in Gingerbread.
-What's the cheapest place to get a 3G one? All I see is $500+ while the Wifi-only version is literally as much as half the price in comparison
-How's the Flyer fare with on-device HD (720p or higher) videos? My G2 lags quite a bit, and I'm not sure if the specs on the Flyer are honestly that much better still being single-core and all.
Thanks!
magus57 said:
Interested in the device, but have three quick questions:
-Any way to use it for voice calls with Honeycomb? I know it's possible with Honeycomb in general based off the Galaxy Tab 7.7, and I've seen guides to enable voice calls in Gingerbread.
-What's the cheapest place to get a 3G one? All I see is $500+ while the Wifi-only version is literally as much as half the price in comparison
-How's the Flyer fare with on-device HD (720p or higher) videos? My G2 lags quite a bit, and I'm not sure if the specs on the Flyer are honestly that much better still being single-core and all.
Thanks!
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If you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery, you can run LeeDroid HC and it has full voice calling. The Flyer is a little choppy with HD playback but some video players make it better with software acceleration. Plus with ICS there will be hardware acceleration which will help.
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Draciel882 said:
If you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery, you can run LeeDroid HC and it has full voice calling. The Flyer is a little choppy with HD playback but some video players make it better with software acceleration. Plus with ICS there will be hardware acceleration which will help.
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Thanks. Any idea where to pick up a 3G Flyer for T-Mobile for closer to $400 (or less)? It's kind of a lot considering there's newer/faster 7" tablets out for about the same price, especially when the pen isn't always included.
Draciel882 said:
If you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery, you can run LeeDroid HC and it has full voice calling. The Flyer is a little choppy with HD playback but some video players make it better with software acceleration. Plus with ICS there will be hardware acceleration which will help.
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Humm, no, not choppy at all ... IF you do the same as any device and give it what it needs.
the 7 inch LCD display @1024x600 pixels is quite comfortable . In terms of videos, Flyer supports the usual formats 3GP, MPEG4, WMV, DivX, XviD and AVI. the native video player which quite smoothly plays 720p HD video. Additional Adobe Flash Player support also makes watching Flash videos fun. Video playback is smooth and jitter-free on the native player as well as with other video player apps such as RockPlayer and MoboPlayer. If you use one of the native formats. Feed it something difference and you have to use software playback vs. hardware. Then it can get choppy just as any other device on the market will.
Flyer comes with a Dolby Mobile chip and SRS Surround sound.
DigitalMD said:
Humm, no, not choppy at all ... IF you do the same as any device and give it what it needs.
the 7 inch LCD display @1024x600 pixels is quite comfortable . In terms of videos, Flyer supports the usual formats 3GP, MPEG4, WMV, DivX, XviD and AVI. the native video player which quite smoothly plays 720p HD video. Additional Adobe Flash Player support also makes watching Flash videos fun. Video playback is smooth and jitter-free on the native player as well as with other video player apps such as RockPlayer and MoboPlayer. If you use one of the native formats. Feed it something difference and you have to use software playback vs. hardware. Then it can get choppy just as any other device on the market will.
Flyer comes with a Dolby Mobile chip and SRS Surround sound.
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Good to know.
Now I hate to beat a dead horse here, but...does anybody know a cheap place to get the 3G/T-Mobile version? Prices seem to be slowly falling, but it's still usually at least $450, which is quite a bit for a single-core tablet nowadays...
Another question, since I'm finding it more difficult to find the 3G Flyer under $500 now...is the Mediapad/Springboard an acceptable alternative? I recently found out it too supports T-Mobile USA for GSM voice/text and data, and I can get one for around $300 off-contract - and the higher resolution screen, dual-core processor, and lighter weight are all nice...but the Scribe pen and the accessories/support for the Flyer make it a tough decision...
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Another question, since I'm finding it more difficult to find the 3G Flyer under $500 now...is the Mediapad/Springboard an acceptable alternative? I recently found out it too supports T-Mobile USA for GSM voice/text and data, and I can get one for around $300 off-contract - and the higher resolution screen, dual-core processor, and lighter weight are all nice...but the Scribe pen and the accessories/support for the Flyer make it a tough decision...
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If you don't find ordering over seas. The UK Expansys website has Flyers for super cheap right now.
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Draciel882 said:
If you don't find ordering over seas. The UK Expansys website has Flyers for super cheap right now.
Sent from my Bulletproof HTC Amaze 4G
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379 pounds = not cheap
That's almost $600...
Draciel882 said:
If you don't find ordering over seas. The UK Expansys website has Flyers for super cheap right now.
Sent from my Bulletproof HTC Amaze 4G
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As the other guy said, it's not that cheap...USA Expansys, on the other hand, has it for $425, which I think I'll go with unless I can find a good deal on eBay (assuming Expansys doesn't go out of stock by the time I get the money for it).
Anyway, are there any other sites like Expansys that would have it? I found out that YesAsia has one for $425 + $30 shipping, so that's an option if Expansys goes out of stock.
I just looked on amazon and they are selling the Evo View for $293.00.
So check that out.
jacobbones said:
I just looked on amazon and they are selling the Evo View for $293.00.
So check that out.
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That would require a Sprint plan to use and a separate number - I'm looking to use my current T-Mobile service and not pay extra to use it on the Flyer.

TV-out and watching movies in droid on tp2 still not possible?

I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
Nope, I don't think anyone got TV out working. There were always bigger fish to fry, and with the userbase not really clamoring for it... No dev ever worked on it.
All our code is open source, so anyone can pickup where we left off. I'd say the project is pretty much done tho.
Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
arrrghhh said:
It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
This is just another reason that I love haret/SD builds from XDAndroid. This is a function that I do not use 99% of the time but it IS there when I need it. That and offline GPS are the 2 big ones that keep me attached to WM (and my BT ODBII scanner I guess, but I have a feeling I COULD get this rockin' in android...if I wanted to put in the time )
EDIT: LOL. ODBII = OBDII... Every damn time!! I blame Old Dirty Bastard
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
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Pixel for pixel, gawd I hope not. 480x800 on an HD screen would probably look AWFUL.
Does it at least put it in a respectable aspect ratio...?
Really surprised anyone actually uses this, haha. I guess some dev can still pick it up? Has anyone even tried the TV Out in Android? Seriously doubt it works, just curious.
lol, yeah it outputs in VGA only. So you have to set your monitor either to have black bars on the sides or zoom(which is perfect for widescreen movies). I watch all my movies at home streaming using the divx web player so I am used to 480p on my HDTV(they may be a little smoother looking on the HTPC since its outputting 720p). These movies look pretty good to me(tho HD mkv changes everything). And free increases the resolution ten fold!!
Anyway, back on topic... I have never tried in GBX because I do not use an official cable for TV-Out and because of this I have to "trick" WM by changing the registry so that it will recognize my cable as a TV-Out and not just a headset as it senses automatically. It actually has to change the function of the pins of the mini usb and thus the headphone jack of the multifunction dongle. The sheer hackiness of the solution in WM tells me that there is no way in hell that it will work for me in android with my current hardware.
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
EDIT: Even more off topic but I can't resist. I have ordered a usb OTG cable from hong kong for a buck and once I get it my next experiment will be trying to play a movie using TV-Out, off of an external hard drive, hopefully while on external power.
As long as there are still new things to try on my rhod I can put off getting a new phone... but I am running out fast!
Caldair said:
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
arrrghhh said:
Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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As good as winmo eh (or even better no less)... That would be something...
Yes I am aware of it, but you are right, I haven't tried it yet. I do see a lot of good things about the battery life, but I am still too fond of WM to call it quits... i know, i know, probably time to "embrace change"!
I actually get great battery life from you guys GBX (I have hacked the crap out of it). I go easily all day and night doing everything and more than in WM. I love them both!
I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
MDavisiw said:
I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
Caldair said:
I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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i can tell you that OMGB rom does not have a tv-out or at least my phone dont recognize the tv-out cable and flat screen to "see" my phone either. i have one of those tv-out HTC Multimedia ACT100 TV Out Cable for HTC Fuze/Touch Pro cables. works in winmo not on android. but i havent tried any special apps either.
speaking on the quality of the output video in Winmo when put on a TV. It has a lot to do with the file your playing obviously. I carry the same sentiment previously mentioned the RCA out and the offline GPS (tomtom) are what keeps me attached to my Phone.
I use the TV out nearly every day I hook it up to the Gym TV to do insanity or P90X, and listen to the audio via BT headset (I already looks like a fool jumping around I don't need to cause more displeasure on people making them endure Tony Horton or Shawn T). The video shows up not perfect, but I have super compressed files, its good enough to tell what the exercise is and how much time is left)
This setup would be perfect If core player (.mp4 files) would accept AVRCP inputs on the rhodium but that is where my perfect setup falls short. I suppose rather then viewing new phones I could purchase a 32gb sd card and just get different file formats of the videos.
Thank you all for the input, ill live with what i have for now, great work to all the devs as far as they took this project.
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I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have tried four free divx players on the Google Play Market on my Rhodium running GB0X. The best performance I found was with Seaman Player, I think that is what it was. MX was sketchy for me, and none of them play as sharply as watching the same files in CorePlayer in WinMo.
To keep from getting to far OT, I have the dongle and it works great in WinMo, but given the playback performance on the built-in screen my hopes are not high that we would have good results on TV-out.

Best Android TV on the Market?

Hey there guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best Android TV device is on the market. Only catch, it has to be rootable. I do not really care if it is a dongle or some other kind of unit. As long as it is rootable, and runts 4.2 + android.
Any suggestions or ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone?
Best Android TV
Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
nicaroxo said:
Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
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What about a gbox q?
G Box Q
Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
nicaroxo said:
Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
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Thanks dude.... I appreciate it
I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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What about a gbox q?
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The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
Sgt.JimmyRustles said:
If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
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specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
snoozy said:
specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
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Forge can run Kodi, as well as the Nexus Player, so I'd assume the Shield TV can as well. Though I'm returning my Forge TV, as the No Netflix has really gotten to me.
Ichijoe said:
The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
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This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
KjK89 said:
This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
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Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
Ichijoe said:
Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
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Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
KjK89 said:
Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
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Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
Ichijoe said:
Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
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I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
KjK89 said:
I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
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But, it is Amazons problem... The world is moving the hell away from MicroSoft's Silverlight as fast, as it can... Perhaps you might have heard that Goggle finally started removing NPAPI from Chrome... The bit that made Silverlight work on it? And, we're talking about PC's here now, NOT Android!
Besides I have to ask myself... If I must use something as bad as the MX Player (As more in what it devolved into, then what it used to be!), to render Amazon Prime in the first place.... Why even bother with any DRM in the first place? And, IF I needed such a Renderer, to, get this working... (Something that truly escapes me!), This might explain to my why I'm otherwise unable to use it outside of XBMC/Kodi. Which does work.
But, I suspect the "Difference" between you, and I is that you're using Amazon.com (US) - With the best Content going... While I'm on Amazon.de (Germany), - Which only has utter CRAP on it! As to the other "freebees" I don't own a Kindle, and I don't need any Free Shipping from them either. I joined this "venture" from the other-side as a VOD Provider with other goodies tossed in. Perhaps that was my failing here...
I have two MXQ android tv boxes in the house and they're working great, I also have rooted firmware installed on them which also includes gamepad support but I haven't tested that as I brought the mxq solely for using kodi.
snoozy said:
I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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Yes this device is not bad. Tronfy is also a tv box brand not that hot. Mind if i ask where did you offer it?
As i see a thread about Minix Neo X8-H. The tv box comes with an M1 air mouse. Many uses for the air mouse. Light and with great material.
So if MX-IV comes with one, that's perfect
The Tronfy MXIV doesn't come with an air mouse, but those are pretty cheap. Aside from that, it's a great box. Just waiting for Lollipop firmware and it will be perfect (as the Android TV Play Store and a lot of the apps are 5.x only).

Netflix and Amazon Prime video does play in full HD

Amazon Prime Video app is in full HD.
Netflix is also available in full HD.... Simply log into Netflix through the Chrome browser and watch in full screen HD, rather than using the Netflix app!
Sorted.
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It's the Netflix app that is the problem.
Sorry further testing and Netflix is running at 540 not 1080p.
Perfectly watchable though and better than 480 being reported.
Well... perfectly watchable in your opinion. Totally unexcusable in mine. They are selling this as a MEDIA tablet. And a customer should watch stuff at DVD resolution? In 2018?
ROTFL
@gorman42 I can understand your position, but all DRM is crap and there are so many different solutions for that. Following your argumentation every producer of a device needs to support all of the different solutions ... Ok, widevine probably is a bit different because it's provided by Google and you do not need to pay a license fee but nevertheless the producer needs to implement and to test ... which might be time consuming and costy. Only looking from a producers point of view
Ok, first of all. Sorry to the OP. Re-reading myself I see that I came off sounding aggressive. It's not your fault and I offer my excuses to you. Sincerely.
To @AndDiSa: that's the main point. It's Widevine. It's used by all major streaming services (Netflix and Prime Video use it, don't know about others). It's free. In my opinion if you want to come out with a media tablet, defining it as such, with an HD+ screen... well, you do have to support it. If you don't, you don't get my money. For me it's a matter of principle.
And note that I'm very against DRM, personally. But for kids and family, generally speaking, streaming services offer a level of convenience that can't be beaten.
Saw a reply from Huawei on their UK Mobile twitter feed - promising an update sometime in the future for Netflix HD - but no date yet...

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