For the purpose of this review, I am comparing the Jetstream, side by side, to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Both in hand. I promise no iPad comparisons. I tried as best I could to represent both devices, however, please keep in mind that my findings are completely subjective.
Styling:
The Jetstream, without question, is thicker and heavier than the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Although thicker, the build quality on this device is solid. Where the GT10.1 is light and thin, and has a somewhat plastic feel, the Jetstream by comparison is very well built. It feels somewhat like the EVO View/Flyer, only in a 10” variety. Same styling and curves.
Screen:
This is the difficult part of the review. Both screens are very nice. In fact, I think probably the nicest Honeycomb screens available, besting both the EEE Pad Transformer and the Acer A500 in my opinion. The color representation on the Jetstream is “probably” more accurate, and definitely softer; however the contrast on the GT10.1 definitely provides an image that gives much more “pop” and color than the Jetstream. Maybe not as true of a color, but definitely more vibrant.
Processor/Connection Speed:
Although the Jetstream runs a dual core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon, in a purely subjective (side by side) comparison, I would still give the nod to the Dual core 1.0Ghz of the Tegra 2 on the GT10.1. Screen transitions seem quicker and where I noticed the speed difference most was in the Gallery application. When viewing the same pictures on both devices and swiping between images, it took the Jetstream a second to “redraw” each image. The image initially appears blurry until it draws on the screen completely. On the GT10.1, images appeared instantly in full resolution.
These devices are both 4G LTE devices on their respective carriers, however, not having AT&T LTE in Milwaukee, it was impossible to compare. I will say that downgrading to the HSPA+ on the Jetstream provides a pretty continuous 3.5+ Mbps down in the Milwaukee area, which for most applications, is plenty fast. Still a far cry from the 20Mbps down when running LTE on Verizons Galaxy Tab, however.
Games run smooth on both devices; however, because Tegra apps will not run on the Snapdragon, the Jetstream will not run the handful of games currently available in the Tegra Zone on the GT10.1.
Sense vs. Samsung UI:
This section is purely subjective to the user, however, for me was one of the areas where the Jetstream outshined the GT10.1. The Sense UI implementation on the Jetstream is fantastic. You are still crippled by the restriction of only 5 home screens; however, they can now be reorganized within Sense.
The pure number of Sense Widgets available is enormous. All of the Sense widgets we are used to are present here as well. Clocks, Calendars, Friend stream, Twitter, Weather, stocks, bookmarks, people, mail, etc. are all available for use. Similar to Sense 3.0 on phones, you can also configure 4 applications as quick launch items on the home screen as well as have the current weather always available when unlocking the device (with or without sound).
You can also download other widgets, backgrounds, Scenes, and skins through the HTC club. Sense overall provides quite a bit of customization. Very Very nice.
Browser:
The Jetstream uses a skinned version of the standard Honeycomb browser. Although similar, in my opinion, I like the looks of the Jetstream browser better than the standard implementation found on the Galaxy Tab. One omission on the Jetstream browser that Google+ users will notice is that unlike the GT10.1 honeycomb browser, you cannot view your Google+ stream natively within the browser. I was notified that if I wanted to do this, I would need to download Chrome. Google+ streams can still be viewed from within the Google+ application.
Market:
Netflix is available without side loading on the Jetstream. That aside, the movies tab normally found on the market, as well as the Google videos application are not currently available on the Jetstream. This may be due to the Jetstream running only Honeycomb 3.1, or may also be affected by both the HTC Watch and AT&T Movies applications being installed on the device. The “Movies” application pre-installed on the device is different in that it provides a “rental subscription” type of service where you purchase a specified amount of credits per month to use on movie rentals. For comparison sake, the GT10.1 does include both the Samsung Media Hub as well as the Google Videos application. Verizon also includes a $25 voucher to try the service out.
Memory configuration
Each device comes with 32G built in storage. Unlike the GT10.1, however, the Jetstream can be expanded VIA Micro SD to provide up to an extra 32GB of storage. The Jetstream also splits the memory in half and provides 16G for applications and 16G as storage. I personally like the storage setup on the GT10.1 better, allowing the entire 32GB to be used as a whole as you wish.
Video & Audio:
Although I am not a big fan of cameras on tablet devices, I have to give a nod to the full 1080P video recording capabilities of the Jetstream. Videos look clean and clear without any loss in quality or jaggies. As with other mobile devices, sound recording is limited to the included microphone, although both devices do an admirable job of pulling audio.
Both devices have great speakers, however, when you plug in a nice pair of headphones, HTC once again adds the SRS audio enhancements to the Jetstream that really makes the audio a cut above the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Value:
The Jetstream sells through AT&T for $849 off contract and $699 on a 2 year contract with a minimum $35/month data plan for 3 gigabytes of data. Your allotment of data cannot be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot for other devices through the Jetstream. Although you save $150 on a 2 year contract, the early termination fee is $325, decreasing by $10 a month. The subsidy of only $150 seems a little extreme to justify a $325 ETF.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 sells through Verizon for $729 off contract and $599 on a 2 year contract. Data plans start at $30 for 2 gigabytes of data, $50 for 5, and $80 for 10. The difference with Verizon is that you can use your included data allowance to use the tablet as a Wi-Fi hotpot device for other devices.
If prices for the hardware were the same at $729 off contract, $599 on contract, I would give the nod to the Jetstream. Although a bit thicker and heavier, I really enjoyed having the Sense UI on the tablet. Even with Verizons 4G LTE service having a much larger installed area, for most applications, AT&Ts HSPA+ service will suffice until their LTE service arrives.
Let me know if you have any questions between the 2. I still have 12 days left before I have to decide which one to part with.
Thanks for the quick comparison!
Hi,
using Dice Player with hardware decoding mode ( or another videoplayer hardware accelerated), can you test theese files:
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak ( .mp4 1080p high profile)
http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/h264_1080p_hp_4.1_10mbps_dts_unstyled_subs_monsters.mkv
( .mkv 1080p high profile 4.1)
http://www.auby.no/files/video_test..._vorbis_styled_and_unstyled_subs_suzumiya.mkv
???
using the browser (not youtube application , please) can you test this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2YWRJ-ppo
at 1080p resolution , please.
Thank you
Having used a Galaxy Tab 10.1, I agree on some points, and disagree on others. Obviously every user has different thoughts on Hardware and Software.
I have used the following tablets prior to using the Jetstream:
1. iPad
2. iPad 2
3. Xoom
4. Galaxy Tab 7"
5. Galaxy Tab 10.1
6. Thrive
7. Playbook
8. HTC Flyer
9. Sprint View 4G
10. Touch Pad
Styling: I really beleive the Jetstream feels better than any Tablet I have tried/used. It's not as thin or light as the GT 10.1, but I like the way it feels while holding it. I have to disagree that is does not feel like the View, but the curves and style is somewhat the same. The Jetsream is very well built, and I would argue it's as well built as any of the tablets I have used.
Screen: I couldn't really tell you which screen is better. It's very bright and clear.
Processor/Connection: Since Sunday I have been nothing but impressed with the Jetstream's speed and quickness. The WiFi speed is fast, the Mobile Network speed (Non-4G) is really fast. I actually had a guy tell me yesterday "wow, this thing is so fast". I also I am impressed with the overall speed of the unit. I find the unit to be zippy in the menu's and screens, and do not notice re-draw lags. I find the device quicker than any I have tried. Could be a perception, as I don't have them side by side to test.
Sense: Sense is so well done for the tablet. It was nice on the Flyer, now it's amazing on the Jetstream. Really, really cool. The sense experience is refreshing.
Overall I always felt like the Honeycomb tablets were missing something. Now with Sense, Honeycomb just feels right.
While it's a pricey tablet, it does everything I need it to do. Having 3G/4g on the go is really nice. I get 2gb a month for $25.00. If I go over it's $10 per GB over. So the pricing is the same as the iPad.
codeworks said:
For the purpose of this review, I am comparing the Jetstream, side by side, to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Both in hand. I promise no iPad comparisons. I tried as best I could to represent both devices, however, please keep in mind that my findings are completely subjective.
Styling:
The Jetstream, without question, is thicker and heavier than the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Although thicker, the build quality on this device is solid. Where the GT10.1 is light and thin, and has a somewhat plastic feel, the Jetstream by comparison is very well built. It feels somewhat like the EVO View/Flyer, only in a 10” variety. Same styling and curves.
Screen:
This is the difficult part of the review. Both screens are very nice. In fact, I think probably the nicest Honeycomb screens available, besting both the EEE Pad Transformer and the Acer A500 in my opinion. The color representation on the Jetstream is “probably” more accurate, and definitely softer; however the contrast on the GT10.1 definitely provides an image that gives much more “pop” and color than the Jetstream. Maybe not as true of a color, but definitely more vibrant.
Processor/Connection Speed:
Although the Jetstream runs a dual core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon, in a purely subjective (side by side) comparison, I would still give the nod to the Dual core 1.0Ghz of the Tegra 2 on the GT10.1. Screen transitions seem quicker and where I noticed the speed difference most was in the Gallery application. When viewing the same pictures on both devices and swiping between images, it took the Jetstream a second to “redraw” each image. The image initially appears blurry until it draws on the screen completely. On the GT10.1, images appeared instantly in full resolution.
These devices are both 4G LTE devices on their respective carriers, however, not having AT&T LTE in Milwaukee, it was impossible to compare. I will say that downgrading to the HSPA+ on the Jetstream provides a pretty continuous 3.5+ Mbps down in the Milwaukee area, which for most applications, is plenty fast. Still a far cry from the 20Mbps down when running LTE on Verizons Galaxy Tab, however.
Games run smooth on both devices; however, because Tegra apps will not run on the Snapdragon, the Jetstream will not run the handful of games currently available in the Tegra Zone on the GT10.1.
Sense vs. Samsung UI:
This section is purely subjective to the user, however, for me was one of the areas where the Jetstream outshined the GT10.1. The Sense UI implementation on the Jetstream is fantastic. You are still crippled by the restriction of only 5 home screens; however, they can now be reorganized within Sense.
The pure number of Sense Widgets available is enormous. All of the Sense widgets we are used to are present here as well. Clocks, Calendars, Friend stream, Twitter, Weather, stocks, bookmarks, people, mail, etc. are all available for use. Similar to Sense 3.0 on phones, you can also configure 4 applications as quick launch items on the home screen as well as have the current weather always available when unlocking the device (with or without sound).
You can also download other widgets, backgrounds, Scenes, and skins through the HTC club. Sense overall provides quite a bit of customization. Very Very nice.
Browser:
The Jetstream uses a skinned version of the standard Honeycomb browser. Although similar, in my opinion, I like the looks of the Jetstream browser better than the standard implementation found on the Galaxy Tab. One omission on the Jetstream browser that Google+ users will notice is that unlike the GT10.1 honeycomb browser, you cannot view your Google+ stream natively within the browser. I was notified that if I wanted to do this, I would need to download Chrome. Google+ streams can still be viewed from within the Google+ application.
Market:
Netflix is available without side loading on the Jetstream. That aside, the movies tab normally found on the market, as well as the Google videos application are not currently available on the Jetstream. This may be due to the Jetstream running only Honeycomb 3.1, or may also be affected by both the HTC Watch and AT&T Movies applications being installed on the device. The “Movies” application pre-installed on the device is different in that it provides a “rental subscription” type of service where you purchase a specified amount of credits per month to use on movie rentals. For comparison sake, the GT10.1 does include both the Samsung Media Hub as well as the Google Videos application. Verizon also includes a $25 voucher to try the service out.
Memory configuration
Each device comes with 32G built in storage. Unlike the GT10.1, however, the Jetstream can be expanded VIA Micro SD to provide up to an extra 32GB of storage. The Jetstream also splits the memory in half and provides 16G for applications and 16G as storage. I personally like the storage setup on the GT10.1 better, allowing the entire 32GB to be used as a whole as you wish.
Video & Audio:
Although I am not a big fan of cameras on tablet devices, I have to give a nod to the full 1080P video recording capabilities of the Jetstream. Videos look clean and clear without any loss in quality or jaggies. As with other mobile devices, sound recording is limited to the included microphone, although both devices do an admirable job of pulling audio.
Both devices have great speakers, however, when you plug in a nice pair of headphones, HTC once again adds the SRS audio enhancements to the Jetstream that really makes the audio a cut above the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Value:
The Jetstream sells through AT&T for $849 off contract and $699 on a 2 year contract with a minimum $35/month data plan for 3 gigabytes of data. Your allotment of data cannot be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot for other devices through the Jetstream. Although you save $150 on a 2 year contract, the early termination fee is $325, decreasing by $10 a month. The subsidy of only $150 seems a little extreme to justify a $325 ETF.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 sells through Verizon for $729 off contract and $599 on a 2 year contract. Data plans start at $30 for 2 gigabytes of data, $50 for 5, and $80 for 10. The difference with Verizon is that you can use your included data allowance to use the tablet as a Wi-Fi hotpot device for other devices.
If prices for the hardware were the same at $729 off contract, $599 on contract, I would give the nod to the Jetstream. Although a bit thicker and heavier, I really enjoyed having the Sense UI on the tablet. Even with Verizons 4G LTE service having a much larger installed area, for most applications, AT&Ts HSPA+ service will suffice until their LTE service arrives.
Let me know if you have any questions between the 2. I still have 12 days left before I have to decide which one to part with.
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I too have used (purchased-returned-or sold) several tablets. I figure if I'm going to drop $400-$900 on a tablet...it needs to be everything to the user-me!
So with that being said, I have been VERY pleased with the JS so far. Pleasantly surprised is more like it. I liked the Flyer, but I agree Sense wasn't all it could be...and on the JS IT'S ALL THERE!
I really did enjoy the G-tabs 10.1 (both WiFi and VZW 4g LTE). Besides the obvious weight between the Gtab 10.1 and JS, both are solid against each other.
I am not in an area with AT&T's LTE network (Central Indiana- USA)...let alone good AT&T service at all really. I splurged for the no-contract buy. Yes, it did sting a bit on the price! BUT- I spent almost the exact same on the VZW no contract buy for Gtab 10.1...and the Xoom was the same price point too when it first came out. Granted, the Xoom def didn't live up to the hype Moto created.
I'm rambling, sorry. Very nice write up and comparisons...I do agree on most. I think a lot people really got stuck on the price point before ever digging into the quality that was put into this one. I really like this one a lot....finally!!!
Just my 2 cents worth! Look forward to chatting more with other JS owners.
Thanks,
C-J
Plus:
-UI is sleek, polished, and contemporary
-Great stock browser
-App, scrolling, and transition speed
-Customization and great assortment of widgets
-Social/e-mail integration
-Build quality
-Micro SD
-Stylus support
Cons:
-Bad for video (stutters, stalls, limited codec support)
-Funky non-Android compliant video implementation limits third-party options (Dice FC's, Plex and PlayOn don't work period)
-It weighs a ton, especially going back and forth to the GT 10.1
-Limited distribution = no accessories, no app developers attention
-Bad placement for the volume rocker
If you can get past the weight, price, and aren't a heavy video user, it's a solid choice. I could live with the weight, the price didn't bother me but the crappy video implementation and potential lack of accessories and app support sent me back to the GT. The latter is a big deal because it appears HTC did a lot of proprietary stuff to the OS that affects a bunch of third party apps that don’t have problems on other tablets.
Looking at what's currently available, the JS is the only tablet that is different than the pack. Sony's using the same technology that's been out for almost a year as are Toshiba, Lenovo, Acer, and Asus. I'll stick with the GT until something revolutionary (vs. evolutionary) comes out hardware or software (ICS) wise; hopefully before the holidays. I’m waiting for a 32GB GT 10.1 3G from the UK but the release just got pushed back from early September to early October. HSPA+ is the only thing missing for me on the GT and unlimited fake-4G data and MMS ends up being $25 a month for an international device.
B"H
Pretty sure the Samsung Tab 10.1 3G units ARE NOT LTE capable. Other than that, loved the review.
Thank you,
Dovid
Dovid, in the US, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is available in WiFi as a only model and a 4G LTE Verizon model (that has WiFi too and fallback to Verizon 3G EV-DO Rev. A).
On another topic started by BarryH, I found out of the box MPEG4 video playback to be very good, in fact better than my other Honeycomb tablets. It handles 1080P high profile, and that's not too common with Tegra 2 tablets. I'm not talking about 3rd party apps like PlayOn, and I wonder if those are having problems right now because they don't yet support the dual core Snapdragon Scorpion + Adreno 220 used in the Jetstream.
dovid said:
B"H
Pretty sure the Samsung Tab 10.1 3G units ARE NOT LTE capable. Other than that, loved the review.
Thank you,
Dovid
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The international version's are HSPA+ capable to 21MBs so they support AT&T's fake-4G network (as opposed to LTE). The 16GB is out now but I'm waiting for the 32GB which is due out the beginning of October. Since AT&T doesn't have the IMEI in their database it can be used with the data for non-Smartphones plan which is $10 for unlimited data and messaging. I'm using it on my SGS2. I figure in nine months to a year when LTE's widely deployed I'll end up getting one of the newer more advanced tablets that will be out by then.
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On another topic started by BarryH, I found out of the box MPEG4 video playback to be very good, in fact better than my other Honeycomb tablets. It handles 1080P high profile, and that's not too common with Tegra 2 tablets. I'm not talking about 3rd party apps like PlayOn, and I wonder if those are having problems right now because they don't yet support the dual core Snapdragon Scorpion + Adreno 220 used in the Jetstream.
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If my choice is re-encoding 2TB of video files from MKV to MP4 or sticking with the G-Tab that has no problem playing them natively, I'll take the latter.
The issue with not supporting online video streaming is HTC's non-standard implementation of its video player. It effects the Flyer and Sensation as well. For those looking, Orb Live works for video but not audio. It's still in beta so the latter might be fixed when its released. Plex is a much more elegant solution so I decided to stick with it and the G-Tab.
Also, the G-Tab supports MTP so you can download and store subscription tracks from Rhapsody and play them offline using the stock media player. That's a great feature when you're traveling.
B"H
Hey PDA Gal - I know you!
Anyways - a bit confusing when you say "in the US, such and such is available ...", because everything is available here in the US. At onthegosolutions, we have been providing the Sim-Free Samsung Tab 10.1 AT&T HSDPA 4G units for months already, like Barry mentioned.
Without trying to start anything disrespectful, but just a note that "Verizon" & "Best-Buy" are not the entire USA - just two stores in the US. Tons more places to get devices than those outlets!
Thanks,
Dovid
OK, I'm speaking of non-import products when I say "in the US". Certainly all manner of products are available through your site and others that aren't offered by US carriers or retailers who only carry US SKUs.
Hey forum,
Need your help, I'm looking at either purchasing the Jetstream or the Galaxy Tab with Rogers. I've scoured the net with reviews and comparisons with no definitive answer.
From your experience which is the better tablet and what would you recommend.
Please note that the price is not an issue here.
Thanks
izzkid said:
Hey forum,
Need your help, I'm looking at either purchasing the Jetstream or the Galaxy Tab with Rogers. I've scoured the net with reviews and comparisons with no definitive answer.
From your experience which is the better tablet and what would you recommend.
Please note that the price is not an issue here.
Thanks
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I just picked up the JS yesterday, and so far it is a very good tablet. I also have the SGT 10.1 and though very nice I do see that the JS is more responsive than my SGT 10.1.
Reason I purchased the JS is because of the stylus. I use this daily on my Flyer. The Note app that syncs with EverNote is the best thing I have used. I also installed Quill great app for note taking and works excellent on the JS.
The screen is much better on the SGT 10.1 as the ppi is much lower on the JS which you can see lines in the display. Not a big deal for me but some might not like it.
I have 14 days to return the JS so will be testing out things I use the tablet for. So far its a keeper and will sell my SGT 10.1 if I keep the JS. Also looking to find out if HTC plans on releasing ICS 4.0 for the JS. If not, then I will return it and wait.
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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
My mom have the iPad 2 and I love Honeycomb but when compared to iOS its missing a whole lot, especially on apps.
Honeycomb is a new OS for tablets and I see it growing in the future and apps are slowly being ported and optimized for Honeycomb tablets. iOS has been in the market for a while and honeycomb has got some catching up to do.
Buy a tablet for what it is now instead of expecting something out of it and just getting frustrated waiting for an app. I bout a zune HD thinking it will go toe to toe with the iPod touch but was just disappointed and ended up selling it and buying the iPod touch.
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Other than the infamous lag when typing in forums, keyboard speed is fine in every application I've used so far. For some the forum thing is a big deal, and I've worked around it for now by using a remote desktop app if I really feel the need to post an essay using the tab, but obviously that isn't ideal.
As for the keyboard itself, there are plenty to choose from. Swiftkey, Thumb Keyboard and Swype are all excellent alternatives if you don't like the stock HC keyboard or the Samsung one.
The tab comes with Quick Office pre-installed and that will do the job if you want to take notes and read documents. There are about a half dozen office suites and each have their pro's and con's, if you want to learn more about them there is a good comparison thread over at the Asus Transformer forums. They all have a ways to go though before they're suitable for real work with documents however.
For IT, I imagine apps like LogMeIn, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Overlook Fing, andSMB, SharesFinder, ASProxy, Connect Bot, etc would be useful.
to give you an honest answer stick with the Ipad. Everyone on here will try to give you a reach around about why the TAB is so great. But quite frankly in its current state its not. I'm typing this on my tab right now and am getting pissed that my words are showing up well after I press the keys. There are NO USEFULL ANDROID TABLET APPS available at this time. You want proof. Go to the marketplace and see if you van even tell the difference between what is a table app and what isn't. Some tablet apps even have disclaimers stating they aren't even compatible with the GT yet. I purchased my tab because I'm believing in the Modding community will one day provide me with the goodies I crave for use on what is a very (hardware) capable device. But if you want somethingthat just works right now... get an IPAD.
I am still so much on the fence about the GT 10.1 I have a hard time even trying to formulate a reply to this. As I think I go back and forth every 5 minutes.
GT 10.1
+ Android is open, open file system, third party app stores/markets.
+ Wide screen display, higher resolution, and stereo speakers great for videos.
+ Highly customizable with widgets.
+ XDA community usually does great job with custom ROMs.
+ Google apps and Amazon CloudDrive and App Store are great.
- Android 3 is a rush job, screen response not great (not bad either), keyboard lag.
- App crashes and random reboots rare, but happen more than they should.
- Tablet app select still small, and Android app versions sometimes inferior to iOS.
- Uncertainty when Samsung might push the Android 4.0 update, they've been ver slow in the past.
- No Netflix
iPad 2 (I own an iPad 1, so this is mostly about iOS)
+ Over a year head start in tablets, lots of quality apps.
+ iOS versions of some apps are better, Tweetdeck, Tune In Radio, Taptu, etc.
+ Netflix, Hulu Plus (don't care for Hulu, but really miss Netflix on my GT 10.1)
+ iOS very responsive and smooth.
+ Square screen ratio nice for browsing, ebooks.
+ Apple makes software and hardware, so dependable updates.
- No file system access, must use iTunes (usually) to transfer files.
- Google, YouTube apps sucks on iOS.
- No third party application markets (no good Jailbreak for iPad 2, so no Cydia).
- Lower res display, 512MB of RAM.
HG! said:
Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
My friend owns the iPad/iPad 2 and I use them regularly when I'm at his house as he has multiple. I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and 10.1 myself. Here's my personal opinion:
The iPad had a significant build quality difference between it and the 7" Tab. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 corrects this, but it's still very difficult to beat a uniform metal structure versus a plastic one. This will boil down to whether you prefer a higher build quality, or a lighter device. The 10.1 is way lighter, the iPad 2's build quality is better.
As far as applications go... iOS tablet-centric apps blows Android out of the water. There is no denying this. You can still get any application you need on both platforms, but the higher resolution ones on the iPad are way more numerous. Here's to hoping this changes soon for Honeycomb.
As far as operating systems go... Honeycomb is ages beyond iOS in terms of a more desktop-like feel on a Tablet and less of a phone-like feel. iOS 5 does little to correct this. You will find the OS itself much more pleasant on a Honeycomb tablet.
Hardware: The processor in the iPad 2 is fast. The processor in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is fast. I don't see any speed differences between the two, except for the browser. The lead Google put in Android 2.2 shows heavily with the UI optimized for Tablets. Also, the Tegra 2 processor is the first processor I can say having Flash is a definitive advantage. I can stream HD videos from Flash sources on the web (ABC, Crunchyroll, etc) with very little to no stuttering. Props to NVidia here. I could probably do a video for you, if you were interested.
The back camera on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is far superior, though I don't think you'll be using it very often when cameras on phones are smaller and easier to use. Just my opinion.
Last but not least: I really dislike the iPad (iOS 4) and Google's default keyboard on Tablets. They are extremely hard to use while handling the device. I use Swiftkey Tablet X on my 7" and 10.1" Tab and LOVE it. If you keep your iPad 2 I really suggest you get iOS 5 on it to take advantage of the split keyboard effect. It makes typing far easier. If you do go back and get a Google-based Tab, drop their crappy keyboard and get Swiftkey X. It's in beta - I can send you the apk if you do end up going that route. Just PM me.
[Edit] Quick edit after reading Ravynmagi's post - not having Netflix is a HUGE HUGE bummer. There's no word on it coming to Honeycomb either, so don't hold your breath[/Edit]
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
bbeelzebub said:
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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Check the support forums at the Apple site. Sure hasn't.
I don't like Ipads. It feels like you are stuck into the app drawer forever.
Sure, there are tons of apps for tablets but everything else is below 10.1 standards.
It starts with the homescreen, over to multitasking abilities and ends in hardware.
And a 4:3 screen is a no go. Every media is made for 16:9 or 16:10, have fun watching movies on that. Ipad2 feels like an ancient TV.
And web without flash? Seriously? That also means no browser games which all are high resolution and made for PC !
Ipads are just for the fancy glamour aspect. The apps look better, for example ebook readers are nicer animated. But I am a purist, I don't want animations around my text, I want a nice and huge display. Why buy 10.1 if half of your screen is used up by showing virutal pages?
The fact that Honeycomb doesn't have many good apps and Tegra 2 seems pretty poor overall (poor video/codec playing, maybe be an OS issue though) I would get an iPad. It will just be a smoother/better experience.
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
I was debating between these 2 devices and in the end I chose the IPAD2. I really wanted to go with Android, but right now its just not ready for "primetime" just yet. I may revisit this when ICS comes out and the Android Tablets and Apps have become more mature. Much like when Android came out, you are goign to ahve to do a lot fo work to get it to do what you want to do. I think the GTAB has great potential, its the OS that holds it back. App conversion\creation has been very slow so far, which is another drawback.
As others have said though, take account of what you want to do with the tablet and what apps you will use. Then go through both tablets and see what will suit your needs. You cant go wrong with either as both have their negative and positive attributes. Whichever is going to fit your needs the best is the one to get, everyone has different needs and wants, so everyone will have a differing opinion.
I can say though that I have not been disappointed with my decision. I still come here and lurk to see what the current state of the GTAB is though as it still sparks my interest and I want it to succeed.
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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My experience is quality has usually been lower on the Android side. Either the Android version has fewer features or is less stable or not even compatible with your device. Fragmentation is a real ***** on Android right now and quality is suffering because of it.
I really don't see an argument for Android having an advantage on the app side. That's going to be the iPad's strong point for quite some time.
But I do agree, plenty of people can find good quality apps that suit their needs and be completely happy.
honeycomb really suck balls! i have to have 3 different browsers installed to do what a normal browser does
firefox to download stuff (if u disagree, try using some other browser to download from filesonic/hotfiles)
skyfire to view flash sites
and the ever temperamental stock browser
why am i able to do the above with any browser froyo/gingerbread but not honeycomb?
typing in username/password is a nightmare, tap a key --> wait for the character to appear --> type the next key.. honestly if u want to try out android, get yourself an android phone, avoid honeycomb tablets for the time being
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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ipad has a lot of useful and quality apps compared to the less than a hundred apps that honeycomb offer.
I'm not talking about games because the tablet optimized games that honeycomb/tegra have are awesome but when it comes to apps for specific tasks they have very limited selection and not a lot of them are comparable to the ipad app counterpart.
I'm talking about finance apps like iReconcile for iPad and portfolio apps for photographers.
I have not seen one portfolio app for honeycomb and ipad have a color calibration app made by datacolor called SpyderGallery but non existent on the honeycomb.
I'm just saying that honeycomb might be good for someone that want to do basic stuff on their tablet but if you want a task specific app, the ipad has them and honeycomb desn't have them but doesn't mean they're not going to have them in the future.
I think that we're going to see a lot of apps ported to honeycomb by the end of the year.
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I've played with the ipad & currently own a GT 10.1. For me (& I think Rayvnmagi summed it all up nicely), the two greatest advantages of Honeycomb are media (ability to play Flash & higher resolution video) and the mod-ability (I just bought an Epic 4G -- $30 on Amazon! -- and I haven't stopped playing with ROMs since; something I could never do with my iphone 3GS).
Yes, the apps are decidedly not there. Yes, the keyboard lag is awful when typing in forums, etc. I'm willing to put up with that for now because I know two things: 1) the fellas here at xda are awesome & will most likely come out with a fix in the near future & 2) Google handed out GT 10.1 developer editions to everyone at its developer conference. That can only be a good thing in terms of app development for the GT 10.1.
All that being said, I actually recommended my dad (NOT a techie) get an ipad 2. He's not as tech-savvy, and he's of the mindset that things should just work. The ipad has established itself as a very stable platform that works (usually) without a hitch & I have a feeling if he'd gotten a GT 10.1, he would have had several headaches & never used it.
So, I feel like in the end, it really depends on your usage preference--do you want an established tech with a little bit lower specs or do you want the newer tech with more bugs but better specs?
My problem with the tab right now has nothing to do with apps etc etc. That stuff will eventually come, just a little time.
My problem is with lag, video playback issues, and the fact that samsung does not like to update their products to push you to buy new ones. Even if google fixes all the issues currently with the tablets, there is no guarantee samsung will give us that update.
Samsung's flagship phone (galaxy s) has yet to get the ota froyo update. If you send your phone back in for a warranty repair, yes you will receive a refurbed one with froyo or you can get it through kies if you are aware of it's existence. Yet the new $70 samsung exhibit is just a replay of the vibrant but with gingerbread!
I don't know about the other manufacturers, but I don't expect the tab to improve much more than it has now. There will most likely be a new tablet from samsung in the fall to winter season sporting icecream sandwich...if that happens, forget updates!
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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I laugh at this comment because androids tablets apps are lacking in BOTH QUALITY and QUANTITY. Seriously dude you set ursrlf up for that.
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The problem with the iPad is that once you buy into the Apple infrastructure if you buy a decent quality of apps you're locked into them forever unless you want to start over again. Personally I love the flexibility of Android and will never go back to having an iPhone (which I used to have).
When Exchange didn't work with my corporate server with my iPhone I was out of luck. With my Droid X I had the same problem but was able to download Touchdown which works fine. To me, that flexibility makes it more worthwhile to stay with Android and lose out on the over abundance of "fart apps" in the Apple app store.
I am very impressed with the Flyer so far. You need to own one to appreciate just how good HTC made this tablet. You know there is a but coming.....but the lack of Honeycomb and the price is giving me second thoughts. I can pick up the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same price with updated Honeycomb. I know the Flyer may be getting honeycomb and it looks like it may be months away. I like the 7" form factor and portability but with all things considered is it better to just get the Samsung and jump on the Flyers next version? This is tuff..... any ideas?
Ha ha, I can't believe you are asking others to make a choice for you!
I hope you are not still wearing the same underwear because you needed your Mom to tell you when to change them!
Yeah, my Mom is not around and neither was yours so I decided to use the forum for some guidance. It's always good to surround yourself with other views. You never know what you might learn.
I say get the tab.
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The 10" form factor feels like a completely different device to me. If your mostly using it for couch surfing, the larger screen is nice. But for portability (or lack of it, compared to the Flyer) is going to feel very different. And while the plastic backing on the Galaxy Tab helps keep the weight down, it also makes it feel less high end than the aluminum unibody on the Flyer.
Good point. The portability is best thing going for the Flyer. I have the iPad2 and have rarely touched it since getting the Flyer. The costs being the same as the Galaxy 10.1 is making it hard for me to justify the expense especially with the Flyer having no Honeycomb. Thinking maybe getting the Galaxy 10.1 and holding out till 8.9 or HTC comes with a refresh of the 7". Still debating.
If you're considering between a 7 and a 10 then you might as well get the 10. Because you should already know if you want the awesome portability of a 7, there is no debate on which is better for carrying it with you. Think bag or no bag, hands full or pocketable.
I prefer the 7" for sure. At this point I am just contemplating wether it makes sense to spend that much for a 7" when you can have a 10" with updated software. I guess I am wondering wether the Flyer is an Over BUY at the price point in comparison to the Tab 10.1 wich fits the price point for its model.
I think 7" is an ideal size. I have a Gtab, iPad 2, and X201Tablet. My wife uses the iPad2, mostly to read online and play some games. My Gtab stays home, usually by my bed to watch movies via Upnplay, probably going to sell it. X201T is really nothing you want to carry around, I usually use that one for Detail sketches or CS5 work. However I carry my Flyer with me everywhere. Great for Train commute and surfing the internet during lunch, Free internet everywhere in NYC. I don't think Honeycomb is really going to make this tablet any better right now. How many apps are actually made for Honeycomb, what some 300+ or so? I know it is a lot of money, but I definitely make the most out of it. I actually do work and research for my work on it. To me it is well worth the price. Only thing I really want is more app for the Scribe pen. If anything HTC should make another variation of the Flyer with no Pen option and sell it for $100 less. If this is a simple case of techolust, I would just get the 10.1 until your next fix come on the market.
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I am very impressed with the Flyer so far. You need to own one to appreciate just how good HTC made this tablet. You know there is a but coming.....but the lack of Honeycomb and the price is giving me second thoughts. I can pick up the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same price with updated Honeycomb. I know the Flyer may be getting honeycomb and it looks like it may be months away. I like the 7" form factor and portability but with all things considered is it better to just get the Samsung and jump on the Flyers next version? This is tuff..... any ideas?
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If you like the 7" form factor then why are you going for the 10.1" SGT? In my opinion... the value shouldn't be based solely on the screen size. Judge the product's value as a whole and not just because it's expensive plus it's small since the product in its entirety has a different value proposition.
I read a few different articles regarding the G-Slate with the 8.9" form factor and they say it feels weird given the size... but they said that about the 7" too when it first came out.
I owned a Motorola Xoom for two months. Just returned last week for an HTC Flyer. I like the Flyer a lot better. Don't think because you're getting a dual processor and Honeycomb that the device will run fast. My Xoom was lagging. Many other people have the same experiences. The Flyer has a much more snappier experience. Honeycomb apps are not that much better. Maybe if you play games, the games may look better, but that's pretty much it. 7 inch is the perfect size for a tablet in my opinion. 10.1 inch is just not portable. You'll end up getting a bag to carry it around.
thanks guys I appreciate all your opinions. the truth is that you must consider price when making a purchase. We all do. it's hard to say that you are getting more bang for your buck with a galaxy tab but with a bigger screen, higher processor and thin build it must be considered. It's priced right for the market. You can make a case for the Flyer also but 500 for a smaller screen and older OS is pushing it a bit. Truth is I will probably stick with the flyer. It would suck if HTC decides not to go with honeycomb though. The Flyer has just enough little features that make this thing rock...
10" tabs are pointless imo. A netbook can do more, costs less, is more durable and is just as portable once you factor in the fragility of a tablet.
Stick with the flyer. 7" tab is the perfect size.
The only thing I have to add is the pen integration. As a 2nd gen tab user, I found taking notes on my iPad just didn't work well. If you don't need it then get something else for the money.
Because these devices are meant to be portable case material gets a lot of consideration. Plastic for a device this size just seems flimsy. I don't believe in purchasing a car and leaving it in the garage. I don't baby my electronic devices either. Hence the aluminum is comforting. Titanium or magnesium to lighten things up would be interesting... Maybe a Lenovo will consider the material.
The larger screen is definitely more comfortable if you are primarily couch-surfing. I also prefer the larger screen to browse magazines in full page or side-by-side. The smaller screen of the Flyer works well for guidebooks or as an e-reader. Larger screen also makes remoting into workstations easier, though I'm getting handy with the smaller screen.
Again, to me the pen integration is why I have this particular device. It doesn't bother me that honeycomb isn't on the device... I personally don't expect honeycomb to drastically effect the functionality of the device other than access to apps which will take advantage of the larger screen. I would prefer to see more advancement and focus on pen integrated apps.
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thanks guys I appreciate all your opinions. the truth is that you must consider price when making a purchase. We all do. it's hard to say that you are getting more bang for your buck with a galaxy tab but with a bigger screen, higher processor and thin build it must be considered. It's priced right for the market. You can make a case for the Flyer also but 500 for a smaller screen and older OS is pushing it a bit. Truth is I will probably stick with the flyer. It would suck if HTC decides not to go with honeycomb though. The Flyer has just enough little features that make this thing rock...
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Yes, obviously price is a factor for most everyone (except the filthy rich). But it seems like you are trying to compare the "value" for 2 devices with potentially very different functionality due to their form factors.
You said you have an iPad2, which is exactly the same form factor as the GT 10.1. The size and weight of the two are virtually IDENTICAL. Aside from the freedom that the Android OS gives you, what makes you think that you would use the GT any more, or like it any more than the iPad? Plus, you would be owning 2 very similar devices (if you had the GT and the iPad), which actually seems like a waste of money. It seems more value added to spend your money on two devices with different form factors. The Flyer for portability, and maybe the iPad for times when you are couch surfing and want a bigger screen. Although, if you ask me, maybe its the iPad that you should get rid of!
The "value" a device brings to you is not necessarily the specs (like a bigger screen or a slightly more updated OS) but the use that you get from it. Its not always about the numbers, and you can't quantify how much you like or prefer something.
Also, the GT does not have a "higher" processor, in all regards. Its a 1 GHz dual core versus the 1.5 GHz single core on the Flyer. The dual core is better for multi-tasking, such as switching between apps, or apps running in the background. But within a single app, the higher clocked single core processor will actually prove faster. The vast majority of apps do not support multi cores yet, and don't take advantage of it. This is why people on here have commented that the Flyer actually feels snappier than the current dual core tablets (in addition to Honeycomb possibly causing some lag).
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It doesn't bother me that honeycomb isn't on the device... I personally don't expect honeycomb to drastically effect the functionality of the device other than access to apps which will take advantage of the larger screen.
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I have to agree. While the Flyer is the only tablet I own, I was recently in Best Buy, fiddling around with every tablet they had, particularly the Honeycomb ones. I wasn't really blown away by Honeycomb. Some things are cool, such as how the launcher and other apps make better use of a larger tablet screen. And there are various features only on Honeycomb that sound cool. But to be honest, I was not all that crazy about the general theming and look of Honeycomb versus Sense Gingerbread. Maybe I'm must too much of an HTC junky, and biased. Also, the Honeycomb launcher seemed a bit sluggish, as commented in various places. Maybe HC needs a bit more work, or slightly faster CPUs. All in all, my takeaway from the experience was that I am not really disappointed that the Flyer has Gingerbread.
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The "value" a device brings to you is not necessarily the specs (like a bigger screen or a slightly more updated OS) but the use that you get from it. Its not always about the numbers, and you can't quantify how much you like or prefer something.
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Exactly! Before I bought my Flyer I was looking for the best hardware, latest OS. After much thought and trying out different devices I decided that I wanted the 7" form factor. With that there were only 2 real choices for me, this and the galaxy tab. The flyer performs much better than the galaxy tab. Reviewers of the flyer complain about the specs, but with actual use, it's fast and smooth, less lag than the 10" honeycombs.
I rarely use my laptop now. When not at work I use this almost exclusively for browsing, email, news, games, listening to music, watching videos, reading android forums =), whether at home or commuting or at a cafe. I'm very happy with the performance. Battery life is decent. My only complaint is the camera that's it. Picture quality on my HTC desire is better than this.
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Thanks for all your replies. I decided to stick with the Flyer. The portability can not be beat. I have not really put the pen to use as of yet but I am a big Evernote user and expect to use the Pen much more soon. I miss spoke when I mentioned higher processor, I am aware of the dual core just miss-spoke. The one drawback to the flyer is email threading and right side preview which is available through honeycomb. I am hoping the 7" form factor will adopt these features when Honeycomb is added. The email client for HTC is not my cup of tea. That's is really my biggest gripe.
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The "value" a device brings to you is not necessarily the specs (like a bigger screen or a slightly more updated OS) but the use that you get from it. Its not always about the numbers, and you can't quantify how much you like or prefer something.
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I couldn't agree more. The value should be based on what's important to YOU! I tried to justify my purchase because I know I overpaid (when comparing to other tablets). Then I realized that it really comes down to whether I like the tablet or not.. and..well... I do
Also, a ton of people pay that same price for only 3.6-4.1 inch screens (phones off contract). So when you look at it that way the price for the flyer is pretty damn good.
Hey guys I just ordered the HTC view on impulse and now I'm having second thoughts. I was all ready to buy the Nook tablet and I got an email saying I could get the View for 259.99 usd free shipping no tax. So I just jumped on it with even thinking about now I'm a little worried because the Nook on paper with it dual core processor seems a little more up to date. Should I be worried or does the View perform better than it sounds? I plan on rooting whichever one I end up, by the way. Any comments would be appreciated, thank you
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Honestly if I could do it all over again I would get a different tablet. I bought a view about 2 months ago but for a little more money I could have gotten something better. I like the view but it definitely could be better
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Thanks for the honest reply, would you be able to give me some examples of what you don't like?
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You're better off...
with the View vs the Nook tablet.
I have a Nook Color with a custom GB rom, and picked up a View about a month ago. So far, I really like the view.
As for tablets, I own or have owned and iPad, Galaxy Tab, HP Touchpad, Nook Color and now the View. I would buy a 7-8"iPad in a heartbeat, but am really enjoying the form factor of the View.
In 6 months, something better WILL come along, but I'm ok with solid tech, and not on the bleeding edge...
i personally think the View is one of the better tablets out there. I have a Kindle Fire and an Archos 80 which have things about them I like better than the View, but overall the View is the tablet I use most. Despite it being a single core processor it seems snappier than the other two. I like the pen integration and the fact that it has GPS, bluetooth and dual cameras. The Archos is my second favorite, primarily becuase of the screen size, USB host and built in codec support, but I think the fact that it has less RAM causes it to be less stable.
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Hey guys I just ordered the HTC view on impulse and now I'm having second thoughts. I was all ready to buy the Nook tablet and I got an email saying I could get the View for 259.99 usd free shipping no tax. So I just jumped on it with even thinking about now I'm a little worried because the Nook on paper with it dual core processor seems a little more up to date. Should I be worried or does the View perform better than it sounds? I plan on rooting whichever one I end up, by the way. Any comments would be appreciated, thank you
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I had a Dell streak before my view. I like this one better. It is just as snappy as the dual core stresk, but has a much better build quality and battery life.
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Dont even think twice, you won when you purchased the View. I had a nook tablet but was so dissapointed that I couldn't access the real Android market out of the box, or Skype, or sketch, or snap some photos. I think the reason u win is because its a $700 device marked down to Nook price. Trying to keep up with the latest tech gadget you're either going to pay $700 for all the bells and whistles flat out or you're going to be locked in a 2yr contract. The "firesale" View lets u skip both of these pitfalls and escape with your wallet intact and a tablet even Apple should be envious of.
I had a Nook Tablet for 2 weeks and decided it was too much trouble to fight B&N for the life of the tablet on being able to root it. I too was a bit concerned that the Flyer/View would be underpowered and not as nice as the NT. This is completely false. I love my Flyer much more than the NT and I have 0 regrets in the trade.
I've used the nook tablet, galaxy tab & currently use an evo view tab
I really didn't expect to be impressed, but I was wrong
The view blows the nook away IMO
I've had the view for over a month & love it more every day!
it's surprisingly quick (custom rom) huge 32gb onboard
Video runs flawless - hbo go netflix you tube on great screen
Dual cameras & skype video calls... Google voice calls too
Stylus apps are pretty cool & hopefully more to come
Bluetooth stereo sounds incredible with halo headphones
Well designed & quality build - feels good in your hand not cheap quality
Tons of great features packed in a sleek package for shockingly low price
Lots more development on the view since price drops also
No doubt ICS roms will be ported soon
Also nice to have 3g/4g option & also can use micro usb cable
even tho it looks like it won't fit
Nook is very restrictive with apps etc & lacking in features
the interface is kinda ugly too
You will not be disappointed with your supersized evo...
More likely wowed
I have a CM7 Nook Color that I was using before the View. I bought the View specifically for the pen function. Being a Sprint employee, it really helps me on the floor to manage notes and also to show it off.
People get all excited about the dual core business. But you do realize that a 1.5 ghz single will.be faster than a 1.2 ghz dual core right? The dual core helps with multitasking and benchmarks but real world not a big difference.
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I'm still loving mine. I put my Nook Color with CM7 on Ebay immediately after getting the View in the last firesale. Its so much quicker and smoother. Plus it has several perks that the Nook will never have, GPS, camera, Bluetooth (out of the box, not thru the CM7 hack). Its a legit tablet.
Only gripe is not having all Honeycomb apps fully functional, but I think that is due to the app developers not supporting our unusual resolution.
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It is the Nook Tablet I would have had the second thoughts on with the lack of everything...
Thanks guys for all the comments I'm actually getting really excited for it now. Already looking at what rom I'm going to load
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As long as the hardware is about the average level, the difference of user experience is not that depended on the CPU / Ram. Indeed if you have dual / quad core it may run some software better, but for the majority of software most tablet can handle it without a problem.
What really changes the user experience the most is the number and quality of sensors it packs. I used one Nook Color, had the gripe not on the speed, but on it's lack of sensor.
No GPS, microphone, cameras, bluetooth sucks. That means no navigation, no skype or voip, no bar code scanning, no reliable way to use keyboard / bt gps .. the list goes on and on...
View has it all, plus a pen input. You can make use of almost all the functions in all the software out there. (I only wish someone can add bt headset back in.. oh. maybe a better set of cameras too.) You have the luxury of flexibility. Sometimes it does not matter if a tablet runs fast or slow, it matters if the tablet can run that app at all or not.
That is the reason why I sold my Nook Color, even if it is fun to hack. I would also recommend against Nook tablet or Kindle fire, as all of them are more reader less tablet. You can do internet on it, and that's about it.
After the tablet has an average speed, the key of tablet is really at the sensors it has. In this aspect, View actually trumps pretty much every tablet, including ipad. ( maybe the only exceptions are those with NFC.. Is there any tablet comes with NFC yet? )
Just talking about dual core vs. single core, I returned the Kindle Fire for the View. You cannot tell the difference between the two as far as what performs better. I actually think the View feels a little snappier.
I recently ditched my iPhone 4s for a galaxy nexus. I'm thinking of ditching my iPad 2 for an android tablet. Anyone used both the iPad 2 and Galaxy tab?
I will primarily use for work. Invoicing, emailing, watching videos in an airport lounge.
Thanks in advance.
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Just throw your ipad in the bin. I wouldn't even insult a android tablet by paying for it with money from selling an ipad lol. So in answer to your question. Yes, get rid of it. Buy a tab 10.1 and you will not be dissapointed ;-)
I have both, and I only use the iPad2 for Skype mostly, Everything else feels like a App store dependent device, there is nothing free you can actually enjoy since most apps are optimized for iPod/iPhone, you need to pay extra for HD apps which are sometimes iPad specific. What a ripoff.
I've totally ported over everything I need for official use on the Android.
-Gmail
-Voice Features to type my mail easily (ICS)
-A more CONTROLLED and responsive Youtube.
I hate how Apple forces you to watch the HD version which renders almost impossible in airport lounges (Since I travel alot) and their Standard also loads like an old man crossing the street.
But ofcourse, user opinions differ. This is just my 2 cents, I do however feel the iPad2 is a complete waste since I have the iPhone4 and it's almost EXACTLY the same **** but on a bigger screen. Unlike the Galaxy Tab the iPad2 can't play anything else except mp4 format, it can handle more BUT you need to be jailbroken to install VLC for iOS which is custom and not on the app store.
Thanks for the responses.
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I just got my tab 10.1 on Saturday. I come from the Applesphere - have owned 3 macs, iphone 3gs, 4, 4s, ipad 1 & 2. I got the tab because i work in IT support and would like to know more about Android and how to operate/support it.
I will say that I prefer the ipad (whether because i'm predisposed to Apple stuff or not). I feel like its more fluid and responsive than the tab, and the android market just sucks. Also - coming from the idevices, all my music and apps have been purchased on the app store. I was able to import the music with relative ease using doubletwist (although since i use itunes match - i have to download all the music and import it using doubletwist or uploading to google music). But it pisses me off to have to rebuy the same apps that ive already purchased on the ipad, but thats my problem - not androids.
Having said all of this, id still recommend the tab as a viable work machine. Heres why:
- price beats the ipad.
- can remote desktop using many apps on the market (i chose jump due to familairity with them in ios)
- vpn works as does on ipad (cisco anyconnect for me)
-teamviewer works
- several office compatible apps available
-web browser is capable of viewing sharepoint sites
- exchange support works just as well as on ipad
- very easy to carry around the office or to the movies/dinner etc if on-call
All in all - the tab is every bit as functional as the ipad in terms of work use, but the ipad (in my opinion) is more stable and responsive. (I am using Galaxy task 14 full on my tab).
One other thought from an IT guys point of view - be sure to check with your IT dept if youre not sure that they will accept your device on the network and whether it is capable in your environment (vpn, email, etc).
Disclaimer: this post is not intended to start a fanboy flamewar.
Agreed no fanboyism included, I do respect the view's from both sides and my dad is a *fanboy* of apple and I too at some point, but I have tasted other water's and so far so good Android's ability to be customized appeals me.
I'm not going to tell you that iPad2 sucks, It has it's strong points but if you prefer simplicity and being tied down to one interface, Seeing as you already have an iPhone you already know how the layout is, and you'll soon realize, "Oh it's a big iPhone4", The only downsides that turns me off towards Apple iDevices in general is their ability to be uncustomizable. Their keyboards cannot be changed to your choice and whim, User integrity matters because some user's have sausage sized fingers to women who have baby carrot like fingers and Apple tends to assume that everyone's finger size is one general size.
Here's an example of keyboards on both devices, My dad tends to have big hands like me and ofcourse being so the static touch read by most devices matter based on area*size of the detected touch. So unlike Android tablet's where I am able to spam because of the many variety's of customizable keyboard apps to suit my style of typing, the apple however just has keyboard upgrades to add certain features, forcing you to be tied down to one style of typing.
Being an IT person aswell, I prefer bringing my tablet everywhere and reading the forums on my tablet to avoid the bulky laptop or spending thousands for a thinner laptop that has more downsides. I'd like to know that when I see a song or file available for download that I may be able to integrate it with the stock music player or reader without the need to move files to be read. Sadly apple hasn't given you the option to do so and you may need to search files manually, the downloaded songs on the go cannot be added to your playlist without being sync'd via a laptop, Which then degrades the whole idea that the iPad is supposed to cancel out my need for a laptop.
Sure the iPad has amazing hardware acceleration making it more smooth and amazing, but also realize that ICS has fixed most of the flaw's that HC and Gingerbread have failed to accomplish which is why in a few months, MangoOS (Windows) iOS (Apple) and ICS(Android) will all be H/W Accelerated OS's for fast processing and much more responsive. Currently HC and Ginger aren't HW Accelerated as iOS is only because of battery and no proper support for multitasking.
I guess it's best to wait till ICS and iOS 5.2 release to draw you conclusion, Dont get me wrong, both are amazing devices and I am proud to be an owner of both, I only prefer the Gtab as it negates the need for a Laptop as everything can be done outright without the need for Sync or anything.
Hi guys, I'm new to the (modern) tablet scene. I tried to get into tablets when I started college back in 2007 with the Fujitsu T4215 and absolutely loved handwriting and the idea of tablets back then, but unfortunately the hardware at the time proved a bit too heavy (literally) and clunky for me (e.g. low battery life, and other hardware issues I had with my laptop). I rediscovered pen and paper for some time and found I work way more effectively writing, however, it can be very hard to organize and now I just have stacks and stacks of paper. I'm just starting graduate school, and it it seems like the hardware (e.g. HTC flyer, Samsung Note) and software (e.g. Lecture Notes, Quill, ezPDF) are starting to converge to a point of being usable and affordable, so I'm thinking of giving tablets another shot.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to replace my dying laptop with a serviceable windows 8 tablet-top (I love onenote) after all the kinks of the 1st generation of windows 8 tablets have been worked out, so I've been hesitant to spring for the samsung note (despite the rave reviews) since they would be filling the same niche. This still gives me a year or so of downtime though, leading me to consider the 7 inch HTC flyer.
My dilemma right now is if you guys think the HTC flyer/view is a good investment right now. It seems like there are rumors for a 7 inch samsung note? And the HTC flyer with windows RT. Although the price for those I'm guessing is going to be $350+ and perhaps out of my student budget. But would the HTC flyer hold its value for a year or so? Should I get used or new? What would be a good price to invest in? Or should I wait for a new device? It's so hard to decide with hardware improving so quickly and everything becoming outdated in a just a few months.
My usage is fairly light. I'm coming from a slow Android 2.3 smartphone and ipod touch 2 (whose smoothness still blows my mind even though it's older than my android phone), so I feel no matter what the flyer is still a big upgrade for me. I'm just looking for a good companion to hold all my pdfs, papers (gonna start scanning all my handwritten notes), while allowing for some handy pen annotation. And if I could connect remotely to my desktop for some matlab and or mathematica I'd be ecstatic.
Thanks guys!
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Hi guys, I'm new to the (modern) tablet scene. I tried to get into tablets when I started college back in 2007 with the Fujitsu T4215 and absolutely loved handwriting and the idea of tablets back then, but unfortunately the hardware at the time proved a bit too heavy (literally) and clunky for me (e.g. low battery life, and other hardware issues I had with my laptop). I rediscovered pen and paper for some time and found I work way more effectively writing, however, it can be very hard to organize and now I just have stacks and stacks of paper. I'm just starting graduate school, and it it seems like the hardware (e.g. HTC flyer, Samsung Note) and software (e.g. Lecture Notes, Quill, ezPDF) are starting to converge to a point of being usable and affordable, so I'm thinking of giving tablets another shot.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to replace my dying laptop with a serviceable windows 8 tablet-top (I love onenote) after all the kinks of the 1st generation of windows 8 tablets have been worked out, so I've been hesitant to spring for the samsung note (despite the rave reviews) since they would be filling the same niche. This still gives me a year or so of downtime though, leading me to consider the 7 inch HTC flyer.
My dilemma right now is if you guys think the HTC flyer/view is a good investment right now. It seems like there are rumors for a 7 inch samsung note? And the HTC flyer with windows RT. Although the price for those I'm guessing is going to be $350+ and perhaps out of my student budget. But would the HTC flyer hold its value for a year or so? Should I get used or new? What would be a good price to invest in? Or should I wait for a new device? It's so hard to decide with hardware improving so quickly and everything becoming outdated in a just a few months.
My usage is fairly light. I'm coming from a slow Android 2.3 smartphone and ipod touch 2 (whose smoothness still blows my mind even though it's older than my android phone), so I feel no matter what the flyer is still a big upgrade for me. I'm just looking for a good companion to hold all my pdfs, papers (gonna start scanning all my handwritten notes), while allowing for some handy pen annotation. And if I could connect remotely to my desktop for some matlab and or mathematica I'd be ecstatic.
Thanks guys!
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The Flyer is dead. It's not a bad tablet par se, but cannot compare in price to the Nexus 7. There is very Iittle development going on in the Flyer.
Do yourself a favour and buy a Nexus 7 or 10.
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If you are looking for a current tablet with great writing capabilities I'd recommend the Samsung Note 10.1. If cost is your concern and 10" seems too big I think the flyer with a custom ROM, Like Leedroid HC OR Mawakious, would do you well. I've seen flyers as low as $130 on eBay, the scribe pen is on clearance at sites like buy.com for about $26, although I've seen it as low as $19 on eBay, along with a case, which I've seen some nice ones with a pen holder for $13.
So roughly you could pay as low as, pad in some shipping costs (very rough estimates here), ~$180, maybe less.
Samsung hasn't confirmed a 7" note, yet. I wouldn't base my buying on something that does not yet exist.
I still don't regret getting the flyer.
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If you are looking for a current tablet with great writing capabilities I'd recommend the Samsung Note 10.1. If cost is your concern and 10" seems too big I think the flyer with a custom ROM, Like Leedroid HC OR Mawakious, would do you well. I've seen flyers as low as $130 on eBay, the scribe pen is on clearance at sites like buy.com for about $26, although I've seen it as low as $19 on eBay, along with a case, which I've seen some nice ones with a pen holder for $13.
So roughly you could pay as low as, pad in some shipping costs (very rough estimates here), ~$180, maybe less.
Samsung hasn't confirmed a 7" note, yet. I wouldn't base my buying on something that does not yet exist.
I still don't regret getting the flyer.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk 2
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Samsung has confirmed the 7" note, but not when it will go on sale. I'm sure the price will be $350 + .
If you don;t need a stylus, the Samsung 7.2 tab 2 is a good deal and has current JB ROMs and development for around $149.
I don't regret getting the View a year ago. It is a solid tablet. But I certainly wouldn't recommend buying one now. There are much faster and better supported tablets available today for around the same price. I thought I would use the pen a lot, but I haven't. If I were to get a 7" tablet today, I'd get a Nexus 7, or possibly a Samsung.
If you are on budget, Flyer is a good choice. You can't expect it to have uptodate software or fancy things like window view in galaxy notes but the price/productivity can't be beat. And so far, this is the only mobile size 7inch tablet with stylus in the market. Even if Samsung release a 7 inch note in the future, it will be expensive.
I like my Flyer very much. It is the best personal electronic device that I have ever bought, although sometimes I wish it had SamsungNote software and small stylus. Btw imo, Samsung devices usually do not look good.
Thanks guys for all the comments! From what it seems the hardware definitely is quite out of date, and that the flyer is really only worth it if I make good use of the pen. I guess my media consumption is light (casual youtube, hulu, skype), so hopefully the hardware won't give me issues. For those of you for whom the flyer/view was good for productivity, how do you guys make use of the pen?
@rickwood, what did you originally intend to use the pen for? Was the pen not smooth enough for your intended uses?
Also, how would the flyer/view fare for connecting to a keyboard and remote desktopping/ssh'ing, in case I'm checking on some code on the fly?
Thanks!
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In my case, I usually use the pen when I take notes in class everyday. I'm using the app LectureNotes, PDFView(for pdf import to LectureNotes) and LectureRecodings(for recording with taking notes).
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HTC Flyer ICS yetki
HTC Desire MIUI ICS
EnPaceRequiescat said:
Thanks guys for all the comments! From what it seems the hardware definitely is quite out of date, and that the flyer is really only worth it if I make good use of the pen. I guess my media consumption is light (casual youtube, hulu, skype), so hopefully the hardware won't give me issues. For those of you for whom the flyer/view was good for productivity, how do you guys make use of the pen?
@rickwood, what did you originally intend to use the pen for? Was the pen not smooth enough for your intended uses?
Also, how would the flyer/view fare for connecting to a keyboard and remote desktopping/ssh'ing, in case I'm checking on some code on the fly?
Thanks!
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The hardware is definitely old but i have used it for numerous task, including media and games. Many "HD" games work great (and no i'm not just talking about Angry Birds, heh)
i've used Skype and Youtube and no issues with HC on those fronts. Never used Hulu Plus and Netflix seems to work fine, slight stutter here and there though.
I've used DicePlayer for playing videos loaded on the tablet and works great with the built-in hardware acceleration up to 720p HD movies.
I've tried using remote desktop, had 2X, and my job uses Citrix, they are "useful" but i think the 7" screen hinders that use more than it helps. It's good for a quick check but productivity-wise may be cumbersome to use. Having a bluetooth keyboard & mouse does help, but the screen real estate is more the issue, at least to me.
The tablet is definitely capable.
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@rickwood, what did you originally intend to use the pen for? Was the pen not smooth enough for your intended uses?
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I thought I'd use the pen for light note taking. On paper, I write really small. On the View, for some reason I had a hard time doing this - - all my text came out really big. Not sure if this was due to the small size of the pen, the resolution of the tablet, or the fact that I was using a compatible Fujitsu pen rather than a true HTC pen. In any case, I wasn't pleased with how my notes were turning out, so I rarely use the pen anymore.
Hope this helps
Its actually a kinda rule in mobile tech field and allied, to not compare gadgets with age difference more than an year (in fact 6 months)
So kindly don't compare a quite way-back-released Flyer/View with latest Nexus and note 2/3 etc
My advise, HTF flyer is one of the best-all-in-one device you would find around (in fact a very few are there)
I can keep counting on features and its usability and fill up a page or 2, with REAL-LIFE uses with just a 1 Real-Portable-Device in your Jeans/Trouser/Coat Pocket (and not in a another BAG( which is actually pseudo-portable)).
If short of money, GRAB it quick. Believe me the major rate dip and stuff for this Product is already done/over. The current prices will remain till the inventory(which is already low) gets over (except you knock off some bargained deal with a seller). If you are thinking of some stop gap arrangement (with regards to your win8 tablet..better don;t). Wait a few months..win8 pro would be out in jan 2013. Get a
MS surface pro...and if you like like Win 8, SURFACE PRO would be really a great product (Hope you are saving money for it; Price would be 2-3X times the flyer's cost)
Personally i really like MS surface PRO (not RT)
If have money and cant live without flaunting Newest OS (FYI Flyer runs Jellybean too but not with all functions AON) and Gadget to friends and allied, go for other options. Yes there are some better options and the list will keep adding with time (and more money you are ready to spent)
I advise getting a Flyer than Evo View, if you are looking to replace your phone too.(and cant carry multiple devices)
P.S. Just some experience, in case that helps. I am not a "lets-buy-a-new-phone/tablet" guy just bcoz options are there and money is there in my bank account. I always RIP a product when it is missing/making me difficult to handle some new technology/function which i/associated people need or it BREAKS down.
When i bought My HTC KAISER back in 2007 (For 600$(including shipping) importing a Tmobile MDA vario III version to my country as there were none available here) i knew i made a good choice.
That new design and functions served me for some 3 years without me feeling much to shift over EXCEPT some screen real estate shortage(which gets short with each passing year given the fact how bigger handhelds are becoming) & resistive screen
& then i bought the FLYER (after waiting for its Initial 700$ price to come down to 370$) and i knew that price is worth it for a 7 inch Capacitive HTC's Beautiful tablet with Wifi, 3G, GPS, Dual Cameras, 32Gb+Slot Storage and the Hidden GSM phone(the deal breaker for me). It has replaced my phone too HTC KAISER (which still looks at me the same way.... sometimes when i need to lend a phone to someone(with all functions working and just wear n tear damage))
Also see how i substituted a 600$ product with a 370$ product after 3-4 yrs & latter being a more smarter, more useful and lot more productive product
Thats how technology works and changes & also how usage of product/s changes!
Personally, now, I use it as my All-in-one device
- Mainly for Phone,
- Quick Internet browsing (using Wifi at home & 3G Sim outside)
- GPS
- Voice recorder for notes(in professional work) & life voice-logs(when alone)
- a Drawing Pad for my nephew (They say the "magic" Pen is great)
- Full fledged Alarm Clock
- To-Do List Reminder
- my Music Portable (Home, Office and Travel(Airplane; Trains etc)) Esp. over Wireless Stereo BT headset
Including playing my music in Car using Aux/Drive/BT input (esp. when Days of CD/Discs are long gone)
- my Video Portable playing 720p HD videos with proper 16:9 Ratio(Home, Office and Travel(Airplane; Trains etc))
- Gr8 Games when i feeling bored
and Mind you ...if 7 inch real estate is small ...get a HDMI out and you would love the stuff on a big LED or Projector screen.
- Measure Distances & Heights (Smart Rule App)
- Taking Database Backups of my blogs and websites
- Torrents
- Wifi Hot spot for other gadgets
- Occasional Written note taking (kinda to do list only) . Scribe Pen is so handy (Mine came free/included with Flyer)
- Voice controlled Commands (Still researching Voice assistants like Speak to it & utter and they are FASCINATING)
- and the list is endless with what not can be done with loads of USEFUL and PRODUCTIVE apps available esp. after ROOTING the device into a Fully-Controlled (Beautiful-)Beast!
and
LoVVVe it.
(My only gripe (for the money and beautiful device this is).. is why HTC didn't put a flash in and may be they should have added a larger battery. Camera is not good in low light & buttery runs out soon when i use these many functions )
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The most useful feature for me is annotating PDF files. I use Repligo app. Another trick is that you can convert Power point (or whatever) files into PDFs and annotate them. I can't find any good app to annotate Word files. Foxit Viewer comes with the Flyer is useless.
I also use the pen for taking handwriting notes. I use Quill (you can get it for free here: http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/list), and HandyNote. But I'm reducing this load because it is difficult to search the content of handwriting text (with out handwriting recognition). And it's not easy to copy/paste them to other docs. That's not good for my purpose of tracking/reorganizing the notes later. But there are some app for handwriting recognition such as WritePad. Maybe they are good if one practices enough.
In addition, I guess the pen is very useful for people who enjoy drawing.
About the Flyer's competitors from price/(pen)productivity aspect, I don't see any at this point. Maybe there will be some in a year or two. MS Surface is promising but it will take time till the app support from the developers get to an adequate level with Android. Or maybe Apple will start to adopt real stylus and keep suing all Android OEMs, who knows..
I hope it helps.
freworld said:
Its actually a kinda rule in mobile tech field and allied, to not compare gadgets with age difference more than an year (in fact 6 months)
So kindly don't compare a quite way-back-released Flyer/View with latest Nexus and note 2/3 etc
My advise, HTF flyer is one of the best-all-in-one device you would find around (in fact a very few are there)
I can keep counting on features and its usability and fill up a page or 2, with REAL-LIFE uses with just a 1 Real-Portable-Device in your Jeans/Trouser/Coat Pocket (and not in a another BAG( which is actually pseudo-portable)).
If short of money, GRAB it quick. Believe me the major rate dip and stuff for this Product is already done/over. The current prices will remain till the inventory(which is already low) gets over (except you knock off some bargained deal with a seller). If you are thinking of some stop gap arrangement (with regards to your win8 tablet..better don;t). Wait a few months..win8 pro would be out in jan 2013. Get a
MS surface pro...and if you like like Win 8, SURFACE PRO would be really a great product (Hope you are saving money for it; Price would be 2-3X times the flyer's cost)
Personally i really like MS surface PRO (not RT)
If have money and cant live without flaunting Newest OS (FYI Flyer runs Jellybean too but not with all functions AON) and Gadget to friends and allied, go for other options. Yes there are some better options and the list will keep adding with time (and more money you are ready to spent)
I advise getting a Flyer than Evo View, if you are looking to replace your phone too.(and cant carry multiple devices)
P.S. Just some experience, in case that helps. I am not a "lets-buy-a-new-phone/tablet" guy just bcoz options are there and money is there in my bank account. I always RIP a product when it is missing/making me difficult to handle some new technology/function which i/associated people need or it BREAKS down.
When i bought My HTC KAISER back in 2007 (For 600$(including shipping) importing a Tmobile MDA vario III version to my country as there were none available here) i knew i made a good choice.
That new design and functions served me for some 3 years without me feeling much to shift over EXCEPT some screen real estate shortage(which gets short with each passing year given the fact how bigger handhelds are becoming) & resistive screen
& then i bought the FLYER (after waiting for its Initial 700$ price to come down to 370$) and i knew that price is worth it for a 7 inch Capacitive HTC's Beautiful tablet with Wifi, 3G, GPS, Dual Cameras, 32Gb+Slot Storage and the Hidden GSM phone(the deal breaker for me). It has replaced my phone too HTC KAISER (which still looks at me the same way.... sometimes when i need to lend a phone to someone(with all functions working and just wear n tear damage))
Also see how i substituted a 600$ product with a 370$ product after 3-4 yrs & latter being a more smarter, more useful and lot more productive product
Thats how technology works and changes & also how usage of product/s changes!
Personally, now, I use it as my All-in-one device
- Mainly for Phone,
- Quick Internet browsing (using Wifi at home & 3G Sim outside)
- GPS
- Voice recorder for notes(in professional work) & life voice-logs(when alone)
- a Drawing Pad for my nephew (They say the "magic" Pen is great)
- Full fledged Alarm Clock
- To-Do List Reminder
- my Music Portable (Home, Office and Travel(Airplane; Trains etc)) Esp. over Wireless Stereo BT headset
Including playing my music in Car using Aux/Drive/BT input (esp. when Days of CD/Discs are long gone)
- my Video Portable playing 720p HD videos with proper 16:9 Ratio(Home, Office and Travel(Airplane; Trains etc))
- Gr8 Games when i feeling bored
and Mind you ...if 7 inch real estate is small ...get a HDMI out and you would love the stuff on a big LED or Projector screen.
- Measure Distances & Heights (Smart Rule App)
- Taking Database Backups of my blogs and websites
- Torrents
- Wifi Hot spot for other gadgets
- Occasional Written note taking (kinda to do list only) . Scribe Pen is so handy (Mine came free/included with Flyer)
- Voice controlled Commands (Still researching Voice assistants like Speak to it & utter and they are FASCINATING)
- and the list is endless with what not can be done with loads of USEFUL and PRODUCTIVE apps available esp. after ROOTING the device into a Fully-Controlled (Beautiful-)Beast!
and
LoVVVe it.
(My only gripe (for the money and beautiful device this is).. is why HTC didn't put a flash in and may be they should have added a larger battery. Camera is not good in low light & buttery runs out soon when i use these many functions )
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Couldnt agree more and glad I got my for christmas
Expansys.ie were doing good deals on them, less than 250euro, which is one of the cheapest places I've seen them retail for new
Simple, the flyer is a capable device that was thrown to the side immediately after release. It performs well enough to be functional at most task but does little great. For me it is a better device than a nexus 7 because the nexus is stripped of allot of functionality the flyer has. If you want to be up to date with software do not consider this device. If you are looking for a small screen tablet that is versatile this is probably still the best option although I have not spent much time with the galaxy tab 2.7
A frustrating device for me because I enjoy its abilities but miss the tweaking custom rom aspect of a device that has good after sale development from the OEM
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Simple, the flyer is a capable device that was thrown to the side immediately after release. It performs well enough to be functional at most task but does little great. For me it is a better device than a nexus 7 because the nexus is stripped of allot of functionality the flyer has. If you want to be up to date with software do not consider this device. If you are looking for a small screen tablet that is versatile this is probably still the best option although I have not spent much time with the galaxy tab 2.7
A frustrating device for me because I enjoy its abilities but miss the tweaking custom rom aspect of a device that has good after sale development from the OEM
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Ah, thank you guys so much for all the good input! I think I'm gonna try for the flyer -- seems like a good budget way to try things, particularly the pen. I'm hoping that I can start to use it as a scratchpad of sorts, in addition to reading scanned notes (I write large so hopefully the 7" screen is adequate even when my writing gets shrunk). The lack of usb otg (at least, without an external power source) is a slight shame, but hopefully i'll be able to live without via bluetooth and the cloud.
Also, I didnt know that the Flyer could be used as a phone! Is this through 3G VoIP, or does it actually have a cell radio?
Happy new years guys!
Both
EnPaceRequiescat said:
Also, I didnt know that the Flyer could be used as a phone! Is this through 3G VoIP, or does it actually have a cell radio?
Happy new years guys!
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Then you indeed missed a major function of this beast. Through 3g Voip as well as Cell radio
Happy new year to u too. Get yourself a gift
P.S. USB OTG issue is also a minor gripe... exact situation is being discussed here ( with possible options including USB -Y cable)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082909
I would not recommend spending your money on any tablet or smartphone device that is over 20 months old. The specs are not even last gen, they are 2 generations old.
That said, there isn't much better in the 7" form factor. I love the 7" tablet size. But unfortunately, the manufacturers have relegated this size to the budget/low-spec end of the spectrum. Mostly thanks to the low priced Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7. And Samsung has joined the "race to the bottom" with its mediocre spec'ed Galaxy Tab2 7.0. The technology of smartphones has left 7" tablets in the dust, its such a shame.
Unless the pen functionality is really important to you (I personally never use it on the Flyer) I'd probably go for the Nexus 7. Yes, its missing some big features. But its simply much better supported by both its manufacturer and the dev community. This forum has become quiet as the grave. So you won't even get much of a community here to chat with or get help if you want to root and S-Off, flash ROMs, etc. Yes, there are still a few devs that soldier on, and other community members still trying to keep this forum alive. But the Flyer's best days are long gone.
I don't regret a bit buying the Flyer when it first came out way back in the summer of 2011. And I still use it every day. But if I didn't already have the Flyer, I wouldn't buy one now. Probably I would get a Nexus 7, wait to see how good the 7" Note is, or wait to see if any higher spec 7" tablets are on the way (doubtful).
I agree with most that has been said. If you want/need the pen and want 7"... get a flyer/evo view. I have a view and use it almost daily for writing. I always had notepads and sticky notes all over the place, now its all within lecturenotes (sweet app).
If you think you'll "maybe" use the pen... get a nexus or other 7".
I use the crap out of the pen and am looking to get another flyer/view for a friend as a gift.
Only if you really need the pen should you consider the GTab 7 2 or HTC Flyer. Having played with both I think the better option now is the Samsung model. But again, only if you really need the pen. If you can live with a capcitive stylus go with a Nexus 7. It will be supported for a long time to come and will always be on the latest OS
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Only if you really need the pen should you consider the GTab 7 2 or HTC Flyer. Having played with both I think the better option now is the Samsung model. But again, only if you really need the pen. If you can live with a capcitive stylus go with a Nexus 7. It will be supported for a long time to come and will always be on the latest OS
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Hmm, the galaxy tab2 7? Doesn't that only use the capacitive pen? also, it seems like i can't find that secondhand anywhere, and new costs $200, so I feel I might as well get the nexus7 if I'm foregoing the digitizer.
I'm also the kind of person who had notepads and sticky notes all over the place, and notes involve math that say, swype is not good for (though it is quite fast), which is why the digitizer is a big draw. But from the comments people are giving, and how fast technology is moving, it seems like it's almost better nowadays to just buy new (so... the samsung note7 whenever that comes out), just like how I can't imagine buying secondhand computers these days.