So I have been looking at some of the other programs they have for overclocking. And so far none of them seem to support overclocking a dual core. Any ideas on if there is going to be an update released to support this? Or are we gonna have to just wait for another program? Thanks in advance.
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So I have been looking at some of the other programs they have for overclocking. And so far none of them seem to support overclocking a dual core. Any ideas on if there is going to be an update released to support this? Or are we gonna have to just wait for another program? Thanks in advance.
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I think you need a custom kernel for that, which are not available for the Photon yet.
We have the custom kernal for the overclock thanks to Shabby. But I'm just curious if we have a program that will overclock both cores? Or perhaps the kernal is only for single core?
I haven't been able to find any overclock apps for dual core yet.
Okay. And one other question. I think I know the answer, but I'll ask. With the kernal release for overclock. That will limit the speed which you can clock it to correct? Meaning the max speed.
You mean underclock? Like only allow the CPU to run at 512 MHz for example? We can already do that with root.
Overclock is raising the Max speed of the CPU, the stock kernel only allows 1 ghz, but a custom kernel can allow higher speeds.
Dual core phones just hit the market, there will be tons of apps supporting that sooner than you might think. And I bet shabby will get us a lot higher than 1.1 - I bet we could get closer to 1.6 with this thing. i would hope so anyways!
I will take the first dive at trying it! lol
-DJ
SetCPU supports the tegra2 for under clocking, over clocking, and under volting. I currently run an Atrix over clocked to 1.3GHz and under vloted.
Also, your kernel must support it.
That's what I was trying to ask. Does our kernal only support the 1.1 ghz? I'm happy with it, just curious. And that's what I'm trying to find out. Also, how does I undervolt my CPU?
Im willing to bet when more custom kernels roll out this thing will be able to overclock each core to abt 1.4 or 1.5ghz! I wouldn't do it though....im an undervolt kind of guy myself.
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Im willing to bet when more custom kernels roll out this thing will be able to overclock each core to abt 1.4 or 1.5ghz! I wouldn't do it though....im an undervolt kind of guy myself.
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I get you there bud, most people are. But just like my PC I tend to get every last ounce of power out of it. I get my i7 in the mail here on Thursday. Can't fricken wait. $3k of computer coming from the egg. Going to be sweet.
-DJ
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I get you there bud, most people are. But just like my PC I tend to get every last ounce of power out of it. I get my i7 in the mail here on Thursday. Can't fricken wait. $3k of computer coming from the egg. Going to be sweet.
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Not bad. My lappy is an i5 mackbook pro and i built a pretty sweet desktop if i need the power.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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Agreed. 1.6 has long been discussed as an achieveable speed. Dirrk was tinkering with it weeks ago. Its voltage requirement obviously is high and near the threshold point given the non-active cooling for the cpu. But I would not be surprised this could be achieved. I mean shoot we have 1.25Ghz on less than stock voltage already.
Benchmarks in one hand, stability in the other. When I see a posted kernel with good reviews for a week or so, I'll do more than raise an eyebrow. lol.
It's on the OCLF kernel, which if I remember, is well known for posting high quadrant scores without giving any real performance benefit.
Also, benchmark overclock's in the desktop world are always just for demonstration, not an application. Ever seen that 7GHz overclock benchmark they did on a Pentium 4?
This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This doesn't suprise me. I could push my Droid to 1.32ghz. That's well over a 100% overclock. Achieving a 60% overclock shouldn't be too hard, especially on newer and much better hardware.
I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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Thats encouraging
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I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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What has been your experience with desktop cpu's. I cannot remember the last desktop cpu I have which at least 50% so I dont find 60% outrageously unreasonable. Active cooling obviously makes a difference.
With the battery life Im seeing on Dirrks UV kernels and even what I got on stock voltages pre-OC I would feel confident I could still get a full day off a 1.4-1.5Ghz hummingbird even if the voltage had to be raised to 1400mv.
I'm having trouble with stability with the 1.2 OC kernals...
So I checked out the thread in the vibrant section. This is def for real! Looks awesome! I had trouble with dirrks lv 1200. But every other kernel has ran fine. I'm sure that eventually we'll have everything we can dream on this phone. Good thing its already so great that I don't mind waiting. I hope I don't have to find an excuse to exchange my phone in search of one that can handle more.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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Yea its going to be a pain to get that kink worked out. But from what ive heard theyre making headway. Now if only I could get a.perm root for the g2 lol.
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Yes this is for real. I personally run it. Heres quadrant I ran last night. This kernel should be ported to all SGS phones. As long as they get a good dev with this phone to help port.
CPU didnt see near the gain I had hoped it would.
ya the CPU is getting destroyed by the N1. And what is with the ridiculous I/O. Did someone port a PCI express array of SSD's on the Vibrant? Maybe they just developed the GOD file system.
I make jokes, but I want the screen of my Fascinate to say 3439 also haha
I am on a mesmerize niw coming from a vibrant. I used this kernel. There was a timing issue. The io scores come from oclf which cheats quadrant. Those guys have released a pretty stable 1.4 oc that is real. I got 68 fps in neocore. Truth be told guys there is no need for oc in my opinion. With froyo the phone plays flash easily. Only application of oc to me is emulation and bragging rights. A good voodoo kernel works wonders honestly.
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wooow way to bring this one back from the dead
So I have the SetCPU running. I also have CPU Benchmark. It gives me two numbers each time I run the test one at 1100 and one at 1000. Is that because one core is set higher than the other? If so, is there a way to set both cores running at 1100? Thanks.
Don't post questions in development, but yea set CPU only overclockes core 0 only, not both core 0 and core 1.
Roger that. I'll keep that in mind for future reference. Is there a way to overclock both?
I thought I read that someone over in 3d forums worked up a special kernel to fully utilize both cores. This was on a snapdragon of course.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Oh well. I'm happy with what we got. It made my phone more snappy, so I'm super stoked.
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I thought I read that someone over in 3d forums worked up a special kernel to fully utilize both cores. This was on a snapdragon of course.
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Kinda, freeza made a kernel that supposed to do that, but its sort of unstable and lags on some phones, I tried it and didn't like it. He did recently update it so it maybe fixed. SetCPU is coded for one core, some people posted logcats and confirmed it. Far as I know, emails were sent to the dev so that hes aware of it. So until there's an update in the app its going to stay that way weather a kernel allows it or not.
Thanks, That's all the info I needed. Appreciate it.
That dev's really good. Hopefully he will update it soon. Been using setcpu since the g1 and mytouch days.
So if Setcpu only controls one core, is it worth using on the photon?
is fauxs123 oc kernal v2.0 1.3oc
is this the limit of our devices is this the max we can push our cpu with respect for rhe overheat issues and the negitive
affects that follow along with overclocking one would speculate we could oc to atleast 1.5-1.8 or even 2.0
mabe im just hopeing yea i know its not a pc and no we aint dumping liquid nitrogen onto the cpu to cool it down
but dang could we please have more power; put some pimp juice in this thing 1.5oc or 2.0 i know im prolly spining my wheels in the mud here
just thinking out loud i gess
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Lol, that would be cool, but I don't think it'll show at all any performance difference ... until ICA. (Hopefully)
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is fauxs123 oc kernal v2.0 1.3oc
is this the limit of our devices is this the max we can push our cpu with resepect for rhe overheat issues and the negitive
affects that follow along with overclocking one would speculate we could oc to atleast 1.5-1.8 or even 2.0
mabe im just hopeing yea i know its not a pc and no we aint dumping liquid nitrogen onto the cpu to cool it down
but dang could we please have more power; put some pimp juice in this thing 1.5oc or 2.0 i know im prolly spining my wheels in the mud here
just thinking out loud i gess
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Well if you go to his post about the Kernel he is still having issues getting the second core running the same speed as the 1st when OC is functional. So I would assume once that issue is resolved there Might be fast OC but that also depends on how Hot the CPU winds up at the higher clock speeds and of course the stability.
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Well if you go to his post about the Kernel he is still having issues getting the second core running the same speed as the 1st when OC is functional. So I would assume once that issue is resolved there Might be fast OC but that also depends on how Hot the CPU winds up at the higher clock speeds and of course the stability.
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I knew there was problems with the second core, but I never really knew the exact problem. Thats crazy if thats what is going on. You know what the second core is clocked at?
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I knew there was problems with the second core, but I never really knew the exact problem. Thats crazy if thats what is going on. You know what the second core is clocked at?
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dangit well hell looks like were stuck at an impass on the second core
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ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
Just means your processor was built a little weak. Its only built to run at 1.2ghz so anything above that is pushing it hard... some phones can be oc'd that much, some can't. Just take it down to 1.4. I can't even get mine to 1.4 so he thankful
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What voltage do you have it at? Try raising it 25mV at a time stressing you cpu at each step until you're stable. That is if you are determined to run 1.6 and i would not push more than +100mV personally.
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ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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If youve nothing nice to say..
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Hope you heed your own advice.
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Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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I do not think entropy is the one who has issues...
This has been discussed in 10 different threads already and in great detail. If the OP did as much as search he would of have found the answer himself. That is why they call it research
the only question left is...... You mad bro?
Keep all voltages stock, then use voltage congrol and click on 1400 and increment the slider+ 25, then do the same for 1600. This is what i had to do to get my phone stable at 1.6 Some phones may need EXTRA voltage and others need less. It takes some testing to get your particular phone stable at anything over 1.2Ghz. I only did it to see if I saw any gains. Actually for me and my phone I found as far as MY SETUP and testing many different benchmark style apps at 1.4Ghz i got better benchmarks than i did at 1.6Ghz. Now everyones phones will act sligbtly different so your mileage may vary.
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
Most of our phones can be overclocked to 1.4 and some can go to 1.6 but not all. If you change the voltages and it still craps out, then take it down a notch to 1.4 and see how that works for you.
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Now now. Since when do we encourage keeping things stock.
My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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This is all true... but the OP was simply asking a question now lets all play nice.
We should have an OC that allows n00bs to melt their cpu.... 2.5ghz ftw
No no no.... We have too many "I tried to load the ICS in the I9100 forums, and I bricked my phone, please help!" threads. we don't need "I OC'ed my phone to 8ghz and melted my cpu" threads too
Tegrak allows you to go past 1.6. I thought these CPU were locked @ 1.6 but i had to up my voltage at 1.7 and i got a small bump in my benches though i probably did run my test enough to confirm the bump. At so.e point, when i get some time ill beat on my CPU some more
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
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I ran my phone at 1.6 for days just to see performance. No UV at all.. battery certainly drained faster, but not while charging. It charged just fine.. and stayed cool even when stressing. Like many have stated, all CPU's are slightly different .. just cause yours melts at 1.6 and wont charge doesn't mean this will happen for anyone trying to run 1.6GHz.
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Try bumpin' up the voltage 1-2 notches.
Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Try changing or updating your kernel. Im the OP and had the same problems. with the new siyah kernel at 1.6 even if i try i cant make it lock up or freeze.
Your processor was made from a different silicon wafer than other people's phones and was rated for 1.2ghz.
Since each wafer is different, some processors take voltage better than others as well as speed. It happens.
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now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
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now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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I was looking stuff up on that today. The highest I could find documented was 1900 on the cpu and 800 on the gpu.
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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hey thats good to know...like i stated though. if there ever was a phone that needed over clock this one IS NOT it. i cant bog it down right now and believe me ive tried. someone out there might can but i cant.
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For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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I just like to play around with different kernels but the kernel I was using def made the device snappier and I had some killer benchmarks! But you are right though! Custom kernels on this device is not really necessary...
I plan on building a custom kernel then, hopefully tomorrow night or possibly Saturday. I do have some plans to improve it, but nothing related to the CPU or GPU going faster, just having other stuff operate better and getting rid of anything not needed.
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
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I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
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I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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HA. My TBolt stayed stable at 1200, but ANYTHING higher than that and it would crap out on me.
I could run my bolt stable at 1700 all day. Kept it at 14 for a month no issues. Stayed at 13 the rest of the time. Course at 17 it was like it was running on a watch battery with the amount of time it would last. Lol
Eh I ran 1.6Ghz on my Thunderbolt 24/7 and with the 2750mah battery it lasted me days.
On a phone like that there was a significant improvement to the end user that justified the overclock. Now on the Note 2 I'd expect there to be very few who would want an overclock at all. I am part of the very few however. I play a lot of emulators on my phone and for N64 and Playstation I need all the raw CPU power I can get. Yep, even on this beast of a phone I still get some lag and stuttering on those emulators. The reason being is the same as PC gaming. AMD thinks that by adding more and more cores to their processors they can win the performance arena. Unfortunately they are wrong. Intel has the right idea, 4 cores is plenty now let's improve the efficiency and performance of those specific cores.
Same goes for our phones. Quad core is the most I'd ever want in my computers, anymore is just a waste. Now let's get better architecture for the processor to maximize clock-for-clock performance. And overclocking those cores helps it in apps that don't support more than one or two cores, because the baseline performance for each core is boosted.
So yeah, can't wait for a 1.8Ghz kernel