So, I got myself a GSM version of the Evo 3d. But, as always, htc sense is starting to annoy me... In the CDMA development section there is a "senseless" rom, still in development whatsoever. What would happen if I were to flash it? Would it in any way damage my phone? Hence, I'm not even sure what the difference is between the gsm and the cdma, apart from the radio....
I wouldn't do it, they might be partitioned differently. If it was compatible there wouldn't be two separate dev sections.
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might potentially brick your device. Different kernel and drivers are needed and the radios are night and day. Unless the CDMA version is ported to gsm. Don't even try it.
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The gsm evo3d is an entirely different beast than the cdma version. Different hboots, different radios, requires a sim card where cdma doesn't. Basically you will break your phone. You will just have to wait until someone develops a gsm rom you like. The problem with porting over a cdma rom is most likely the developer that made the rom doesn't have a gsm phone to test and use so they can't develop for it.
peter768 said:
So, I got myself a GSM version of the Evo 3d. But, as always, htc sense is starting to annoy me... In the CDMA development section there is a "senseless" rom, still in development whatsoever. What would happen if I were to flash it? Would it in any way damage my phone? Hence, I'm not even sure what the difference is between the gsm and the cdma, apart from the radio....
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You'll Brick your phone man... Cdma is Cdma! And Gsm is Gsm! The Only way it could be done is if its Ported!
Figures... Anyway, thanks for the answers!
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Hi everyone,
I was just wondering just how big a difference there is to the ROMs for the CDMA and the GSM version of our phones?
I suppose the kernels are at least different, but the main part of the rest of it must be the same.
Back when I had the HTC Magic there were different versions of the mainboard in the phone. At some point someone figured out how to make the .zip install from recovery include both kernels and push the right one to the phone when installing.
Having development of ROMs fragmented is pretty sad, as there is a lot going on in the CDMA forum and not so much in the GSM forum yet (... yeah, you guessed it, I have the GSM version)
Has anyone taken two ROMs apart and compared?
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Honestly I can say that for right now you're not missing much (it's only exciting until your cool new rom starts to crash randomly). You'll almost definitely get the important stuff like aosp and mini, although it may take a little bit longer. For a GSM phone, you're not in a bad spot though: between the development for the CDMA 3D and the sensation, you've pretty much got all the ingredients for your GSM 3D hahaha.
now that i have an evo 3d ill be differentiating the apks and libs from cdma vs gsm and try to figure out how to have a universal rom for both phones
Hey
My question is rather simple, atleast i think it is... Not really sure though.
How different is a CDMA rom from a GSM rom? I just purchased my Evo 3d (GSM) and it will be arriving the coming wednesday. When will we have a similar amount of roms as the CDMA version of the phone?
Please dont get me wrong, im DEFINETLY not saying I dont appreciate the current GSM dev's. Believe me when I say the second i get my phone, im flashing one of those roms. Im just wondering when I will have more of a choice.
Thanks
P.S. Im a recent captivate user (so im used to alot of roms)
They are night and day in software. That is becuase of the hardware. ( that kinda rymes... ) it is different becuase of the carriers. Another realm, the gsm is just out. Will it have the same amount of roms? Nobody will know..as more developers get gsm, expect to see more. Thank is for sure...just a numbers game and now a waiting game. I am sure some of the cdma developers will port over to gsm also, and as more people get the 3vo in gsm, they most likely will port other gsm roms.
life64x said:
They are night and day in software. That is becuase of the hardware. ( that kinda rymes... ) it is different becuase of the carriers. Another realm, the gsm is just out. Will it have the same amount of roms? Nobody will know..as more developers get gsm, expect to see more. Thank is for sure...just a numbers game and now a waiting game. I am sure some of the cdma developers will port over to gsm also, and as more people get the 3vo in gsm, they most likely will port other gsm roms.
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hopefully... a lot of us have been seriously waiting on some action in the GSM area.
supaphreek said:
Hey
My question is rather simple, atleast i think it is... Not really sure though.
How different is a CDMA rom from a GSM rom? I just purchased my Evo 3d (GSM) and it will be arriving the coming wednesday. When will we have a similar amount of roms as the CDMA version of the phone?
Please dont get me wrong, im DEFINETLY not saying I dont appreciate the current GSM dev's. Believe me when I say the second i get my phone, im flashing one of those roms. Im just wondering when I will have more of a choice.
Thanks
P.S. Im a recent captivate user (so im used to alot of roms)
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GSM and CDMA are cell signal types. Its like the difference between Diesel and regular Unleaded gasoline. They both power cars, and they're really close to the same thing, but if you use the wrong one, you've f'd over your car. Same thing with the phone. If you flash a CDMA rom on your GSM phone, you've pretty much borked it.
Hardware differences between the 2 phones (The ability to capture different cell signals, Lack of a sim card in CDMA, etc) require different software to run it. Porting should happen pretty quickly for the big roms though, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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They are night and day in software. That is becuase of the hardware. ( that kinda rymes... ) it is different becuase of the carriers. Another realm, the gsm is just out. Will it have the same amount of roms? Nobody will know..as more developers get gsm, expect to see more. Thank is for sure...just a numbers game and now a waiting game. I am sure some of the cdma developers will port over to gsm also, and as more people get the 3vo in gsm, they most likely will port other gsm roms.
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Ah thanks alot I wasnt sure that GSM was the newer model because I basically bought this phone without really thinking. I called up Rogers *****ing about my captivates GPS and they offered me this and I took it. I cant wait for the devs to get the evo GSM versions. With them.. I think the battery life will go to an entirely new level.
I cannot speak for the gsm, but the CDMA gets darn good battery life, even running stock.
How do i know wich one i have? Or is it a to dum question?
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How do i know wich one i have? Or is it a to dum question?
Greetings
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Im not sure if this is correct, but you could give it a shot.
Go into settings > about (or about phone)
somewhere in there it should say
Don`t know exactly if it`s possible,maybe any Dev knows this!
What is important to do this,any files etc.I have to remove first
from the CDMA ROM before starting to port?
Any tips?
Ganii said:
Don`t know exactly if it`s possible,maybe any Dev knows this!
What is important to do this,any files etc.I have to remove first
from the CDMA ROM before starting to port?
Any tips?
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from what I have read it is not possible to use a CDMA Rom on the GSM version.
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from what I have read it is not possible to use a CDMA Rom on the GSM version.
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I think he gets that... Which is why he is asking if "PORTING" is possible.
Honestly I don't have a clue. I mean, you wouldn't think it would be all that much work. Its most probably a situation where CDMA devs don't have GSM phones and can't really use them to test anything since they aren't able to connect anything. Ya know?
That's my guess anyway.
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I think he gets that... Which is why he is asking if "PORTING" is possible.
Honestly I don't have a clue. I mean, you wouldn't think it would be all that much work. Its most probably a situation where CDMA devs don't have GSM phones and can't really use them to test anything since they aren't able to connect anything. Ya know?
That's my guess anyway.
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Exactly. Which is why if someone attempts a port by comparing the CDMA and GSM versions and gets us GSM owners to test it out, who knows might actually get something good
From what I've read, the differences between the sources of each version of the E3D are more significantly different than most would think. Add onto that the fact that the kernel sources provided by HTC for the GSM are currently broken, and I don't think porting at this point to be an easy venture.
Hopefully, when we get working kernel sources for the GSM, we'll see this kind of porting.
saltorio said:
From what I've read, the differences between the sources of each version of the E3D are more significantly different than most would think. Add onto that the fact that the kernel sources provided by HTC for the GSM are currently broken, and I don't think porting at this point to be an easy venture.
Hopefully, when we get working kernel sources for the GSM, we'll see this kind of porting.
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What other differences besides the kernel and the radio are there? Could you post a link where you read this?
Seems not easy to port from cdma to gsm.
But not possible if I only try to replace some files (boot.img etc.) from
a stock gsm ROM into the cdma ROM?
There are more things to do?
I´m interested,because only cdma version has MIUI ROM.
Maybe there are other devices (gsm) where I can port from.
Which phone would be the most similar,so I can try to port?
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Seems not easy to port from cdma to gsm.
But not possible if I only try to replace some files (boot.img etc.) from
a stock gsm ROM into the cdma ROM?
There are more things to do?
I´m interested,because only cdma version has MIUI ROM.
Maybe there are other devices (gsm) where I can port from.
Which phone would be the most similar,so I can try to port?
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I remember a while back on the OG EVO someone ported the acer liquid ROM, which was a gsm phone. Convince a gsm dev to port the ROM or donate a gsm phone to a US dev so they can test on.
So you mean it`s easier I should try to port a acer liquid ROM
to my evo 3D gsm,because acer liquid is similar to evo 3D?
Maybe HTC Sensation ROMs good too,to start porting?
ok i ported a rom from the evo 3d gsm to the cdma audio didnt work wifi didnt work and gps didnt work ... i fixed all of that but i cant find out where the files are in the rom that deem it gsm instead of cdma
help
Interesting.
Sorry, I don't have an answer for you, but I think you;'re the first to port a ROM between the CDMA and GSM versions of the EVO 3D. Might want to start a thread in Development and share what you did. This is a much requested operation, especially in the GSM community where we're development is far less active.
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yea but the thing is ... i dont know what the hell im doing ... its just a feeble first attempt ... but if i could only find the radio info i think it would be done and working
Did you port the GSM's stock kernel to it?
yes
yes i did ! do you know where i can get a flashable kernal for 2.3.5 for the cdma evo 3d ... sense based
The CDMA box is so rich !!!
While The GSM box is too bleak and too little rom was developed.
Why don't developers develop for GSM ?
Please, we need you !!! Where are you ? Do you hear us ?
I doubt anyone in this forum has a GSM Evo 3D. You're better off asking in general. Maybe you could start up a collection to purchase one of the devs a GSM 3D
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I doubt anyone in this forum has a GSM Evo 3D. You're better off asking in general. Maybe you could start up a collection to purchase one of the devs a GSM 3D
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Why do you think about that ???
Man I sure love the DEVELOPERS, please!!! ROM, so smooth and quadrants are amazing.
Hate to go off topic, but you have got the wierdest website ever.
I'm sure someone would dev for u guys but u need testers that know what they are doing when testing roms etc. Maybe pm some devs of roms ur interested in and ask couldn't hurt.
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i would dev for you guys but i dont have the device and my uploads are painfully slow so testing roms would be hell
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The CDMA box is so rich !!!
While The GSM box is too bleak and too little rom was developed.
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You probably have Hboot either 1.49.0011, 0012, 0013 and if these had s-off the Gsm thread would kick along more steadily. No one knows if Team Revolutionary are working on these or not. (I have my doubts) so it is what it is. I learn't to not rush in and check XDA before committing to any phone to make sure it has some life.
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You probably have Hboot either 1.49.0011, 0012, 0013 and if these had s-off the Gsm thread would kick along more steadily. No one knows if Team Revolutionary are working on these or not. (I have my doubts) so it is what it is. I learn't to not rush in and check XDA before committing to any phone to make sure it has some life.
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There are also a lot of GSM users with hboot .08 and .07 with s-off.
..but the HTC unlock tool is really a pain in the ass and the gsm forums is flooded with questions regarding non working kernels/wifi on S-ON(HTC Unlock Tool)
GSM Forums just got 2/3 devs and only one is really active - Leedroid.
MDJ (virtuos team) got a rom too, but he don't own a evo 3D himself, so he can't be very productive.
Leedroid was a long time busy with private things and got a lot of other devices to support, so the development stucked for a while.
I'm not a linux guy, just know some c/c# but tried to port some things over the GSM Evo 3D (Zeus Mod in sig) and also tried to port some things from the WARM Rom (Tweaks Settings).
But it's very time consuming comparing/merging smali files - 90% of edits causes fcs after reboot - Don't understand why the framework of the CDMA/GSM is so different - what kind of programming style is that HTC?
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There are also a lot of GSM users with hboot .08 and .07 with s-off.
..but the HTC unlock tool is really a pain in the ass and the gsm forums is flooded with questions regarding non working kernels/wifi on S-ON(HTC Unlock Tool)
GSM Forums just got 2/3 devs and only one is really active - Leedroid.
MDJ (virtuos team) got a rom too, but he don't own a evo 3D himself, so he can't be very productive.
Leedroid was a long time busy with private things and got a lot of other devices to support, so the development stucked for a while.
I'm not a linux guy, just know some c/c# but tried to port some things over the GSM Evo 3D (Zeus Mod in sig) and also tried to port some things from the WARM Rom (Tweaks Settings).
But it's very time consuming comparing/merging smali files - 90% of edits causes fcs after reboot - Don't understand why the framework of the CDMA/GSM is so different - what kind of programming style is that HTC?
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easy first gsm started out with 2.3.4 while we started with 2.3.3 also cdma 4g wimax vs gsm hspa + [not sure if gsm evo supports HSPA+] anyways yea so mostly gsm vs cdma differences
Thanks JoelZ9614 (developer) interested. But CDMA & GSM is so different. It's reason that the GSM box is too bleak and too little rom was developed. i hope, in the near future it's richer because of you