[Q] Sleep of Death - still a problem? - Galaxy Ace S5830 General

I'm returning my LG Optimus 2x for a refund due to sleep of death issues and was thinking about getting the Galaxy Ace....but then I read here on XDA that the Galaxy Ace suffers from the dreaded sleep of death as well!
I use wifi a lot, so this has got me really worried. With the Optimus 2x the problem seemed to be related to wifi also and it drove me up the wall. Is there any chance that this issue has been fixed in any recent firmware update on the Galaxy Ace?

davew said:
I'm returning my LG Optimus 2x for a refund due to sleep of death issues and was thinking about getting the Galaxy Ace....but then I read here on XDA that the Galaxy Ace suffers from the dreaded sleep of death as well!
I use wifi a lot, so this has got me really worried. With the Optimus 2x the problem seemed to be related to wifi also and it drove me up the wall. Is there any chance that this issue has been fixed in any recent firmware update on the Galaxy Ace?
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With Cyanogenmod 7.1 , yes it has been fixed . (IMHO)

With Cyanogenmod 7.1 , yes it has been fixed . (IMHO)
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm more interested intially in how the stock firmware is working if anyone knows.

davew said:
Thanks for the reply.
I'm more interested intially in how the stock firmware is working if anyone knows.
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stock firmware is pretty good if u ask me. rite now im still using zckpa. almost similar to cm with advance call setting feature. moreover currently it had the loudest sound volume of all ace roms. but the problem that still haunted stock rom is sod.

I should mention that in the month that I had it, I rooted my O2X and installed every ROM I could get my hands on (stock and otherwise) and nothing solved the sleep of death problem.
I'm not really enthused about the idea of buying another android phone and having to go through all that just to get the wifi working. I want it to work flawlessly out of the box.

davew said:
I should mention that in the month that I had it, I rooted my O2X and installed every ROM I could get my hands on (stock and otherwise) and nothing solved the sleep of death problem.
I'm not really enthused about the idea of buying another android phone and having to go through all that just to get the wifi working. I want it to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Some fixed their problem by setting the WiFi sleep policy to Never .
Other didn't .

Some fixed their problem by setting the WiFi sleep policy to Never .
Other didn't .
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That doesn't sound very promising at all :-(
I guess I'll have to keep looking for my next phone.

well, u can just buy device that were known to not have any sod whatsoever on them. spare u the headache of trying to solve that problem

I had manuellt sod before and
installed xwkpo stock and now i dont have it anymore..... I hope... been one week now
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well, u can just buy device that were known to not have any sod whatsoever on them. spare u the headache of trying to solve that problem
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. I won't touch anything that has reported SOD issues with a bargepole, so I've ruled out the Galaxy Ace for now.
Will wait till all the new phones come out ready for Christmas I think.

davew said:
Yeah, that's pretty much it. I won't touch anything that has reported SOD issues with a bargepole, so I've ruled out the Galaxy Ace for now.
Will wait till all the new phones come out ready for Christmas I think.
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Speaking from a personal view i think you should rethink. The ace is a wonderful phone. The feel and look are unmatched. Cm7 is easy enough to install, and to be fair you should consider it for any phone you buy. It will inprove the life of your phone and increase the abilitys of it. All android phones work in essence the same. Not with cm, its your call but be informed first. Every phone has its querks, you could end up with something worse.
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Speaking from a personal view i think you should rethink. The ace is a wonderful phone. The feel and look are unmatched. Cm7 is easy enough to install, and to be fair you should consider it for any phone you buy. It will inprove the life of your phone and increase the abilitys of it. All android phones work in essence the same. Not with cm, its your call but be informed first. Every phone has its querks, you could end up with something worse.
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The O2X was a wonderful phone and I would have been happy with it -but- it crashed 10 times a day or more. There are O2X owners out there who never had a single problem with their phones so I guess I was unlucky.
I could easily go down to phone house and grab a Galaxy Ace at lunchtime, but I am absolutely sh1t-scared that it has the same defect as the O2X I just returned. I just don't want the hassle, there's no rush - and I'm sure there will be some nice phones out in time for Christmas. The Galaxy W springs to mind

davew said:
The O2X was a wonderful phone and I would have been happy with it -but- it crashed 10 times a day or more. There are O2X owners out there who never had a single problem with their phones so I guess I was unlucky.
I could easily go down to phone house and grab a Galaxy Ace at lunchtime, but I am absolutely sh1t-scared that it has the same defect as the O2X I just returned. I just don't want the hassle, there's no rush - and I'm sure there will be some nice phones out in time for Christmas. The Galaxy W springs to mind
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Well to be fair sod on galaxy ace is on all of them to my knowlage. Its wifi related. Cm7 fixes it completely, but i understand your consern. The only otherthing id say in its defence is it in thory can be overclocked to 1300mhz maybe even 1500mhz stable. The kernel isnt out yet, but im confident with such great devs on the ace it wont be long. And lastly if your looking to mod the ace community is already established, its frustrating to buy the latest phone and watch others with lesser phones doing things your cant yet. Im honestly not trying to convince you, im just completely inlove with my ace. The last phone i liked this much was 8years ago. Would hate to see you miss out. Im an ace fan and i can do nothing but recomend it.
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Sure, its a good phone at a very good price. Looks nice too. There are two things going against it in my mind though: no 720p video recording and a low-res screen. Still, I'll have to pay at least 100eur more to get those features.
So is it really fair to say that all Galaxy Aces have sleep of death on stock ROM?
with the O2X you have at least some chance of getting a working handset, plenty of people say they never had the problem.

davew said:
Sure, its a good phone at a very good price. Looks nice too. There are two things going against it in my mind though: no 720p video recording and a low-res screen. Still, I'll have to pay at least 100eur more to get those features.
So is it really fair to say that all Galaxy Aces have sleep of death on stock ROM?
with the O2X you have at least some chance of getting a working handset, plenty of people say they never had the problem.
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Yeah, all of them. Takes 10minutes to flash. As for the screen i would say this. . . It may not be hd, but you find another screen this bright and clear. Ive had an iphone with the same def, a nokia 5530 with higher def and a lg gt540 again the same def and not one looked this good. Its the best ive seen. Ace is epic. . . With cyanogen its legendary! You know best thing you can do is go in the shop and ask for a demo, bet you walk out with it in your pocket.
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You know best thing you can do is go in the shop and ask for a demo, bet you walk out with it in your pocket.
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Not if there's even a chance of buying something that might have BSOD issues
Think I've got all the info I need now - thanks everyone. I'm going to wait for the Galaxy W to hit these shores next month.

davew said:
Sure, its a good phone at a very good price. Looks nice too. There are two things going against it in my mind though: no 720p video recording and a low-res screen. Still, I'll have to pay at least 100eur more to get those features.
So is it really fair to say that all Galaxy Aces have sleep of death on stock ROM?
with the O2X you have at least some chance of getting a working handset, plenty of people say they never had the problem.
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No, i have stock gingerbread 2.3.3 on my ace and it has no SOD issue, if you update to gingerbread officially it fixes the SOD issue as many people have found out.

No, i have stock gingerbread 2.3.3 on my ace and it has no SOD issue, if you update to gingerbread officially it fixes the SOD issue as many people have found out.
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Interesting - anyone else found the GB update to resolve the issue? from what I've read this wasn't the case for everyone.
Anyway, the Galaxy W is coming out in a few days, I think the extra cost would be worth it to get a higher res screen and 720p video recording. Plus it's 1.4ghz processor, better for games. So long as the GPS performance is better than the old Galaxy S this will be my next phone...though the Galaxy Ace is definately prettier it's cheaper for a reason

For me, versions KPN, KPO and KPT are the only ones which solves SOD issue. I think that issue is solved with all latest versions (2.3.3 and 2.3.4)

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I want it, any reasons NOT to buy?

My SGS1 took a dip in the water etc. I saw the nexus keynote, ice cream and so on, compared specs, prices, and i have an opportunity to buy this thing cheaper from a supplier. However, i was greatly dissappointed from SGS1.. specifically the lag, and the gps problems.
I read awesome reviews about this thing, and they all agree on its greatness.
Thus im asking, is there any specific issue, problem and so on, like lag, like battery drain specific to this phone, gps etc whatever, a reason NOT to buy this?
Im looking for people who have had the phone for a while.
Thanks
Um think you got the wrong section.
You're talking about the nexus, but you do mean the SGS2 right?
no i meant that i am aware of the nexus prime and all that is going on. but im not in the wrong section, im talking about the SGS2 BEAST
No reason at all not to buy the SGSII remains the best there is 100%, if you get a chance of a good deal id snap it up.
this is so weird, there were quite a lot of people dissappointed with the first one! so happy to hear that.
Are official firmware updates good enough? has it been improved since release for example?
I've had my S2 for about 3 weeks now and I'm yet to come across anything that's made me look twice about choosing it.
If I had to be really picky then I'd recommend you buy a 3rd party USB cable as the one that's shipped constantly loops "connected/ "disconnected", be careful when removing the battery cover - it really is as flimsy as some of the reviews say however when it's in place it feels solid and finally the app drawer doesn't automatically sort into alphabetical order so you either have to do so manually or sort everything into folders (even then it doesn't have an option to sort by anything other than date).
On a side note I have read a lot about people having problems with Samsung Kies Air but haven't used it so I can't comment.
Apart from that it's a cracking piece of kit in my opinion.
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be careful when removing the battery cover - it really is as flimsy as some of the reviews say.
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Really?
nesx87 said:
this is so weird, there were quite a lot of people dissappointed with the first one! so happy to hear that.
Are official firmware updates good enough? has it been improved since release for example?
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it's entirely up to you what you do with your phone but i recommend rooting and flashing a custom ROM, CheckRom is currently merging with Leomar's Revolution ROM to make a super ROM so i cant wait for this and obviously ICS will be coming to the SGSII soon too so that is going to be fantastic,if i were you i would read up extensively on here, i done this 3 weeks before i even got my SGSII so i was familar with some things, freeze all Samsung bloatware and you'll have great battery life, clear cache every day too speeds things up,i recommend Siyah kernel too probably the best there is and the one responsible for getting rid of the dreaded Android OS.
As i said read,read,read the many stickys and topics and in no time your phone will be absolutely top notch.
The only downside I've found so far in this phone is that it can get extremely hot (around the upper side, the camera, where the CPU is, I guess), reaching a temperature that you can't even touch it (it's hot only on the upper area, that means you can still hold it, but not touch the upper area). It only happens to me when I use the browser for over a minute, or when I use the phone in general when it's charging.
Other than that, everything in this freaking phone is amazing!! The screen, the camera... everything! When the new android version comes, the phone will get even faster because of the multicore support, can't wait for it (although it's fast as is...).
Wait for the galaxy nexus (own a sgs2 myself)
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Wait for the galaxy nexus (own a sgs2 myself)
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i disagree, the camera is only 5MP and IMO the screen on the nexus is just too big, asides from that it looks good but ill stick with the SGSII until the SGS3 is released next year.
Only falls short on pixel density imo, particularly noticeable when browsing on desktop mode, have to zoom in a bit to read.
Minor but still a minus compared to SGNx.
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Really?
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Can't believe that! Why would you try to do that?!
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Can't believe that! Why would you try to do that?!
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to prove a point to the people who said it was flimsy
Andrewawright said:
Can't believe that! Why would you try to do that?!
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to prove wrong every review that ever said the back was too flimsy maybe
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Can't believe that! Why would you try to do that?!
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I saw that before but dismissed it as aftermarket (check additional logo).
however, that said I've popped the cover off plenty of times and it isn't anywhere near creaking. also unlike some other phones the back is replaceable if it does break.
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I saw that before but dismissed it as aftermarket (check additional logo).
however, that said I've popped the cover off plenty of times and it isn't anywhere near creaking. also unlike some other phones the back is replaceable if it does break.
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if it wasnt a genuine back it wouldnt have samsungs brand name on it
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Can't believe that! Why would you try to do that?!
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Just to prove a point that Samsung know what they were doing!
I have done the same thing to my battery cover and I can confirm that it is not flimsy at all.
The light weight of the Galaxy S2 is of benefit to itself when accidentally dropped.
It's less likely to break !
I'm not sure if you folks have seen this video yet was posted on here the other day and says it all really.

[Q] LOW performance on Galaxy S3!

Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
Def sounds like a dud there. Try going into Apex launcher and tick the setting to keep the launcher in ram. Ive heard loads of problems about TW reloading itself after running things like the web browser and gaming :/
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Shouldn't NEED to be flashing anything, mine was sheer awesome out of the box.
All I've done was flash the insecure kernel... which is the same just adb etc. enabled, and rooted.
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Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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yes
AndyGalaxy said:
Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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Networks do not matter with custom ROMs, as long as you are flashing a ROM for the right phone i.e. the international version, and not the north american version. (which you don't need to worry about yet because it's not out yet)
Check if you have Power Saving turned off. It throttles the CPU making scrolling etc noticeably slower.
Mine loads the weather widget coming out of S-Voice. But other than that never misses a beat. Smooth even when using 90% of its ram.
Did a test of its speed and its above the Asus prime easy, so sounds like you have an issue.
AndyGalaxy said:
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
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Similar issue with my phone... through I have not yet copied my songs and data... but exactly the similar problem...
same here
Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
you all can flash latest version which should help with launcher redraw ... and after that do a full hard reset: *2767*3855#
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Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
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I'm not having these issues. YouTube in browser is fast and no problems editing.
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Not having any issues. Suggest you uninstall apps and track down what's causing you pain or take it back. There is nothing wrong with this phone. If you are having slow performance obviously a quad core phone may I suggest an iphone.
Yeah I'm being a prick but common sense and a bit of troubleshooting will teach you a life skill.
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This did the trick for me. Also upgrading your firmware would also help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27476986&postcount=39
Edit: phone is now running sweet with above patch and WanamLite, but will give Omega a try soon.
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Same for me
The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors cant release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik it. the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product worse than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
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The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors can release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik.ittwik.its a the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product word than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
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Your S2 has had a years worth of development and optimization. I bet you'll say the same about your S3 when we're all using the S4.
I completely agree with the guy. My most common activity on my phone is browsing whilst listening to music, and this phone just can't hack it. Waaaay too regular cut outs, I'm pissed off.
Remove all bloatware and corresponding background services, get a good kernel (Franco r5 is great), you'll find phone is much better, in a few months, it will have moved on loads and will be so much better
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Yall are the odd ones out then. my phone was actually VERY VERY good at multi tasking out of the box. i could surf the web, play my music, and watch a movie with super video....and never get redraws, or hickups, leave apps open and keep going......i could not get it to do any lagging unless you speaking of the micro stutter in home screens. which is gone now with a custom rom and a few misc things here and there.
yall seem to keep wanting to blame it on the phone.....i dont quite understand this.

SGS3 is full of problems..and everyone on silent??!!

Must point out is strange that nobody complains about ...
Slow
lags and stuck when return to launcher - each time coming out of something heavy ,everything in SLOW MOTION ..i can see the icons and WIDGETS back one by one....(even with omega 5,6,7,8)
Sudden departures from heavy games
Where are the 4 cores??
its not bother anyone that we bought the BEST SMART STRONG phone .. IPHONE BREAKER ...
and its working like "unfinished product"...
maybe its all abouy the launcher??? i dont know..im worked with servel launchers...everything seems to be that same...
maybe tommorow i'll find ROM that will fix all of it....for now...I'm really disappointed...
Take it back you have a defective phone!
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Must point out is strange that nobody complains about ...
Slow
lags and stuck when return to launcher - each time coming out of something heavy ,everything in SLOW MOTION ..i can see the icons and WIDGETS back one by one....(even with omega 5,6,7,8)
Sudden departures from heavy games
Where are the 4 cores??
its not bother anyone that we bought the BEST SMART STRONG phone .. IPHONE BREAKER ...
and its working like "unfinished product"...
maybe its all abouy the launcher??? i dont know..im worked with servel launchers...everything seems to be that same...
maybe tommorow i'll find ROM that will fix all of it....for now...I'm really disappointed...
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Alot ALOT of people will atest that this phone is not the lagging mess you make it out to be. i see NO lag at all. even out of the box when using certain launchers. TSF shell is a ZERO lag launcher no matter what. but its 15 bucks
other than that other roms may help your issue, but it is not a dissapointing phone at all in my OP
Agree one or the other is defective .
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Take it back you have a defective phone!
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sorry but those felling are after i saw the same problems in couple of friends phones...
came from all over the world...
I'm silent about all these problems because I don't have any. Phone is like butter, it's a wonderful user experience and the best phone I've ever had. A real keeper, might even keep a phone for a year this time.
I'm not disputing your issues but you chose a terrible thread title. 99% of owners are happy just like me that's why we are "silent".
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It might be any hardware or software issues .. take it to the service center asap
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I know you're exaggerating the problems a bit, but I can see some of the problems you experience. There are instances where it does lag on touch response and I don't see it too often, but it does happen.
Redraw is an issue that's for sure. I've updated to LFB and I still see the redraw but not as often.
I'm running stock on the current LFB firmware and I haven't rooted the phone. I don't install alot of crap on my phone either.
I love the phone regardless; the few minor problems don't deter from the overall experience. It's generally smooth I have to say.
Also, the issues probably have to do with software optimization both with Samsung's firmware and apps from the Play Store. I'm sure as Samsung pushes more updates out, the phone will get smoother and most of the initial problems people experience will be ironed out. This goes the same for Apps in the Play Store. S3 will be the most supported phone so developers will optimize all their apps to run smoother with the S3.
Patience.
There are some problems as the launcher redraws and some lag from time to time, but I'm coming from the HTC Desire. To get the experience you get on the S3 on the Desire you have to tweak the crap out of it and it won't even get close to the S3. It's a wonderful phone, you are either overreacting or your phone is defect.
There are rare Launcher redraws (and it is happening less on LFB). I don't know how this can be "full of problems". It happens very ocasionally and the redraw is very fast and then the phone is buttery smooth again.
Im having a slight lag sometimes after leaving shadowgun or a different heavy game such as nova 3 but after few seconds, everything goes back to normal. Nothing major to complain about.
I guess you might have a faulty phone so take it back for inspection and best of luck.
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Must point out is strange that nobody complains about ...
Slow
lags and stuck when return to launcher - each time coming out of something heavy ,everything in SLOW MOTION ..i can see the icons and WIDGETS back one by one....(even with omega 5,6,7,8)
Sudden departures from heavy games
Where are the 4 cores??
its not bother anyone that we bought the BEST SMART STRONG phone .. IPHONE BREAKER ...
and its working like "unfinished product"...
maybe its all abouy the launcher??? i dont know..im worked with servel launchers...everything seems to be that same...
maybe tommorow i'll find ROM that will fix all of it....for now...I'm really disappointed...
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I think you're overreacting. Lag? No .Maybe stutter but I don't experience that at all unless I have a bunch of apps install while i m using the phone Plus being on checkrom I have yet to have the redraw issue. You need to compare your S3 to the competition to see how butterry smooth that phone is. As far as home button lag, just disable s voice and it will be gone.
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sorry but those felling are after i saw the same problems in couple of friends phones...
came from all over the world...
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Not from Brazil, I guarantee.
As far as the hardware goes, my phone is flawless, like a top grade diamond!
Perhaps you have some buggy widget on your home screen, that is making the home screen app misbehave, and - not being a developer thus not knowing how everything interconnects - starts blaming the device.
You sound like those car owners that blame the manufacturer because the car run out of fuel or because they simply can't drive.
If you think the device is such a mess (that you apparently caused, because you already tried non-stock ROMs on it), just return it.
Maybe Android is not for you... try an iPhone instead.
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sorry but those felling are after i saw the same problems in couple of friends phones...
came from all over the world...
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I'm sorry also but my friends have the same phone and no lag
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He maybe got a bad app and got some kind of virus? I'm sorry but I can't see this phone lagging? And maybe if there was more complaints about it I would say something wrong?
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He maybe got a bad app and got some kind of virus? I'm sorry but I can't see this phone lagging? And maybe if there was more complaints about it I would say something wrong?
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I can certainly see the bad app/rouge widget messing with your screens.
i had a battery widget on my galaxy Note right before i got the S3 and it would make EVERY Launcher Lag when i had it sitting on my home screen.
was just by chance that i forgot to add it back after installing a new Rom and noticed all the lag/stutter was Gone. so it happens man just check it out, i hope its something as simple as just a bad app/widget.
Buy iPhone and no problems for you if you dhont like Sgs3.
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I am the pickiest guy in the world. I went from GS2(perfect except battery life), iPhone 4s(Bluetooth, wifi, had to reset, everybody and their grandma has the same phone as me), Xperia S(too thick for pockets, old CPU, yellow screen, USB port flap and placement), and HTC One X(stutter and just about everything).
No problems. This phone is amazing. Believe me, I am super vocal about any little problem myself.
IThe S3 was the best compromise for me.
The One X hasnt got SdCard, One S the same + unswapable batteries.
Galaxy nexus also hasnt got SdCard so i went to the S3
I dont like Touchwiz and Samsung Crap, this is the reason I run a custom firmware.
The Phone is blazingly fast.
Regards.
maybe im overreacting ....BUT...on iphone i'd never had those lag problems..never got kicked in the middle of a game or application...
i can't fell the monster CPU it had...
just formatted the phone and installed PARANOID rom...i will try to work few days without installing alot of applications....

Buy S3 or stick with S2?

Hey Guys,
I know there are probably tons of threads such as this but I would like some concrete feedback from previous S2 owners and new S3 owners as to why the S3 really stands out. I saw a few threads and did enough searching to find out many reasons as to whether the S3 is truly a worthwhile upgrade or not. I'll be honest with you all, I love Android and I love my SGS2. Have had it ever since the launch date and I still don't see any phone out there that has quite truly been this staggering in terms of performance, user customizability and dependability. Sure it has had few hiccups and I have had a few bad ROMS installed before (particularly on Gingerbread) but I haven't had trouble with any ICS roms that I have used so far and I love how this phone handles so well even though I have put it through some extreme loads.
I have seen the S3 being sold in huge numbers within Toronto, even more than the S2 already and I am surprised because I think the 4S is truly a magnificent phone on its own. I'd appreciate your opinions and mostly would welcome previous S2 owners who upgraded this year to the S3 as to why they did so. I'll keep the S2 most probably even if I get the S3 because I truly adore this phone so I am not sure whether the S3 really would cancel the use of my S2 or not. I need good battery life and 2100mAH is a huge improvement and I hear the new phone can go the whole day even with extreme browsing, not sure if its true or not.
I don't play games, I browse, email and perform some normal trades, so it has to be a good premium phone to replace my S2. I don't see any phone out there other than the 4S and SGS3 that competes well against my S2. I'll be okay with stock roms for now, will root for sure but don't necessarily need a custom ROM already. I know the community and its ROMs will grow everyday and finally with Jelly Bean, someone nail it and get us the perfect ROM for the S3 so I'd be okay if there aren't many options on the list of custom roms at this moment.
Yes.
I would honestly just stick with the S2 and wait for the S4 whenever it comes out. Your phone is only a year old, take some more time to enjoy it. Unless you play games, really demand a larger screen or just simply have money to blow, then there's no reason to upgrade so fast.
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The 2GB's RAM is more than enough to make you jump ships. As a former S2 owner, I would definitely do it. Dev support for the S3 has picked up really fast. With CM10 previews being available now, i can only imagine how far this phone will go. Consider that the JB source code has only been out for what...a week or two? This phone will really go far.
Having owned (and still own) both, I'd say you're fine with the GS2 if you have no complaints.
For me, I had 'upgraded' (downgraded) to the GSM Galaxy Nexus, and gave my GS2 to the wifey... and regretted it so much that I bought the GS3 as soon as it came out.
The first thing I said was "ahhh thank God, feels like I have my phone back"
It's nice to have the latest and greatest, don't get me wrong - but I saw no short comings on the GS2, and the few new features of the GS3 are cool, but nothing to lose sleep over.
I'd say wait it out, if you don't have money to blow. If you do, then get it! The GS3 is every bit as good as the GS2 and then of course there is the extra RAM, slightly more internal memory, new features, etc.
but it's a toss up, honestly.
Also I should mention that I prefer the build quality on the GS2, the back cover and design was perfect IMO. Plus capacitive buttons are better than physical (and software buttons IMO)
This is not to take away from the GS3 AT ALL, the truth is the GS2 was simply the best phone ever made prior to the GS3.
Which is just another testament to the amazing GS2.
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Thanks everyone for the awesome replies. I'll wait and look out for more suggestions in this thread. I am keen on the S3 and while I can afford it, I also am aware that having two phones of almost the same calibre is a waste so will have to get rid of the S2 if I do get the S3. The only things I am mostly fond of in the S3 is the new development behind all the ROMs and how everyone's making such a great effort into getting the best package out there to all S3 owners. I don't like too big of a phone and the S2 is just as big as it can do for me. I remember S2X and other LTE phones based on S2 came out after a few months of the I-9100 launch date so maybe I can get the second variant come fall/winter time.
auto_freak said:
Thanks everyone for the awesome replies. I'll wait and look out for more suggestions in this thread. I am keen on the S3 and while I can afford it, I also am aware that having two phones of almost the same calibre is a waste so will have to get rid of the S2 if I do get the S3. The only things I am mostly fond of in the S3 is the new development behind all the ROMs and how everyone's making such a great effort into getting the best package out there to all S3 owners. I don't like too big of a phone and the S2 is just as big as it can do for me. I remember S2X and other LTE phones based on S2 came out after a few months of the I-9100 launch date so maybe I can get the second variant come fall/winter time.
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The battery life improvement alone is almost worth it for me. Beyond that, the improvement is incremental. If you're not desperate for the HD screen and you are ok with the battery life on the GS2, I don't think you'll be blown away by the GS3
If you like the s2 as is, keep it. I think its sleeker, nicer to hold, and plenty fast.
Honestly if I were to do it again I wouldn't have bothered with the s3.
Sure its a bit faster, has lte and has a bigger screen, but it really isn't that big of an upgrade.
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If you like the s2 as is, keep it. I think its sleeker, nicer to hold, and plenty fast.
Honestly if I were to do it again I wouldn't have bothered with the s3.
Sure its a bit faster, has lte and has a bigger screen, but it really isn't that big of an upgrade.
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This is about as spot on as spot on gets!
I'm in the same boat and was set to return mine but work sent me out of town and I missed my window. :crying:
Other than that after my ICS update on the SGS2 a battery calibration kicked my battery life into overdrive and is giving me great usage.
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the lack of Mass Storage on the SGS3. Its my biggest gripe and I really miss it. MTP can suck eggs till the chickens come home to roost. I use my phones alot for everything (play - work [office/field environment]) so its a real problem when I can't preview my pics on the phone through my computer when connected with my SGS3. I have to copy everything over to the PC first then filter through everything deciding on what I am/not going to keep/rename/edit. Also some people have reported having issues when trying to copy a large amount of files and/or large file sizes timing out when trying to transfer to the SGS3. I get that alot of the younger teens/early 20somethings don't care about this but I want my phone to do for me not work against me.
Sorry for my diatribe there...I could tell you how I really feel.
In short you are not missing out on anything if you don't get the SGS3. Don't worry about Jellybean either, the SGS2 WILL get it. Heck most likely even the HTC HD2 is getting Jellybean.
i would stick with the s2
Honestly its a minor upgrade. Would I go back to the S2 though? Hell No!
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Honestly its a minor upgrade. Would I go back to the S2 though? Hell No!
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This.
The Gs2 was an amazing phone for its time. Almost perfect. The gs3 is an incremental step above that. But it's hard to improve on perfection
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rosedog said:
This is about as spot on as spot on gets!
I'm in the same boat and was set to return mine but work sent me out of town and I missed my window. :crying:
Other than that after my ICS update on the SGS2 a battery calibration kicked my battery life into overdrive and is giving me great usage.
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the lack of Mass Storage on the SGS3. Its my biggest gripe and I really miss it. MTP can suck eggs till the chickens come home to roost. I use my phones alot for everything (play - work [office/field environment]) so its a real problem when I can't preview my pics on the phone through my computer when connected with my SGS3. I have to copy everything over to the PC first then filter through everything deciding on what I am/not going to keep/rename/edit. Also some people have reported having issues when trying to copy a large amount of files and/or large file sizes timing out when trying to transfer to the SGS3. I get that alot of the younger teens/early 20somethings don't care about this but I want my phone to do for me not work against me.
Sorry for my diatribe there...I could tell you how I really feel.
In short you are not missing out on anything if you don't get the SGS3. Don't worry about Jellybean either, the SGS2 WILL get it. Heck most likely even the HTC HD2 is getting Jellybean.
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The HD2 already has Jelly Bean bro !
man, tough decision even after its been debated 1000 times.
For me, the s2(epic touch 4g) was THE BEST PHONE I EVER HAD. Everything about that phone was just perfect. The display, even at 800x480 was amazing. Amazing camera, fast as hell, GREAT for gaming, great speaker. Even given its so so reception. Still the best phone ever to me.
I went ahead and took the plunge and upgraded to the s3. It is indeed a great phone. Its fast as hell, gets INSANE battery life, has a higher res screen which looks awesome (though because of the pentile arrangement viewing angles are not as good as the s2). Its got a great speaker and some real slick software features.
Heres what I miss about the s2. I miss the camera more than anything. The camera on the s3, while not a bad camera, to ME leaves something to be desired. The camera on the s2 was awesome.
I also miss gaming. its not as strong on the US s3 as it is on the s2. Mostly because of the increase in resolution. I feel like the s2 exynos was more than powerful enough to push the display on the s2. I dont feel the same way with the s4(krait) core and the s3. It just does not seem to perform as well. But that could be due to a number of things.
My opinion? If you got the money, then do it. If not, the s2 is STILL one of the best phones out there.
Im happy with my purchase for the most part. The s2 was a epic phone, the s3 is a minor improvement in my opinion
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I would honestly just stick with the S2 and wait for the S4 whenever it comes out. Your phone is only a year old, take some more time to enjoy it. Unless you play games, really demand a larger screen or just simply have money to blow, then there's no reason to upgrade so fast.
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I would have to agree with seoulstyle on this one. Really the only thing I have noticed is biggerscreen, clairity of screen and battery life. I find it really difficult to type on the g3 vs my skyrocket in landscape mode. I had the s2, skyrocket and now s3. So if you have the cash to fork out do it, otherwise just wait. I haven't found the s3 usefull enough to say "man I glad I spent the money to upgrade to the s3" :-(
Dont get me wrong I really like the phone, but I paid the no commit price so its harder on the wallet.
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If you got the money and more than one line with upgrades than do it.
It's a very nice phone, it not a huge upgrade, but an upgrade indeed.
If you really think about it from here on out how much better can a phone get. It's always gonna be small upgrades moving forward.
Well at least that's how I see it.
This phone is a beast and I personally like everything about it, so much that I haven't even had the urge to root and flash anything.
Maybe when JB is stable enough, but I'm actually happy stock.
Only real problem I've had is signal drops here and there, but I'm sure that will get fixed with a different modem or something.
Powered by the SGSIII
Thanks for all the replies guys, really appreciate all your efforts into helping me decide. So far I'm inclined to stick with the GS2 since its quite frankly one of the top 3 phones out there and I am so used to it too. I just wanted to experience Rogers LTE since I do have 6 gigs of data to play with. I also would welcome the longer battery life since the GS2 is a thirsty model with every single ROM/Kernel out there. I am going for the 2000mAH extended battery to see if there is a huge improvement or anything and if there is, then I'll stick with the phone till a new version of S3 comes out or better yet next year's S4.
Well, I really like the S3, it's a very smooth device. But, I think I'd wait on the developer community a little longer before deciding whether to upgrade.
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The HD2 already has Jelly Bean bro !
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:highfive:

I must say I regret buying the G2

Definately not my favorite phone I ever owned that'd be the Nexus 4 <3. I bought the phone back in October at T-Mobile and was deciding between a S4/G2/One M7/iPhone 5s I wanted a note 3 but they were out of stock so I decided to go with G2 because I read about how great it was and the battery life and all that and its superior to s4 and one .. So my first 2 weeks with the phone were good I guess I did notice a few problems with camera But I don't use it much so I was fine with it.. Later on it fixed itself so camera worked great .. Later on in January I decided with my friend that we should root and get custom ROM on my g2 since he knws how to root and rooted my Nexus 4 easily before I agreed ... That same day my phone got bricked all thanks to TWRP and my friend could not do anything so I tried phone stores and nobody fixed it finally tmobile was nice enough to give me a replacement .. I didn't say it was rooted they just took it. I was sent a replacement device and it worked fine but the screen flickered so I also took back that one and got my 3rd G2 after that . I have had my 3rd G2 ever since and I have kitkat on it .. After KK the phone lags on all games like temple run or subway surfers and I tried a lot of ways to fix it like hidden menu etc but the phone plays games like GTA SA without a problem .. Funny right .. the phone is just so problamatic and I regret it so much .. Soon I'm gonna bring it down to JellyBean because I feel like they're won't be that much problems with it .. I'm never buying a LG phone again .. Unless its a Nexus .. Gonna stick with iPhones and HTC from now .. My next phone is either Nexus 6 or iPhone 6 maybe a One M8..
In before the lock ?
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60nine said:
your bad, goodbye...
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You have brought nothing useful to society bye.
Let's just get one thing straight. Bricking your phone was neither LG's, nor TWRP's fault. It was your own, maybe your friends but, likely due to your affinity for iPhone's, it was your own fault.
bps119 said:
Let's just get one thing straight. Bricking your phone was neither LG's, nor TWRP's fault. It was your own, maybe your friends but, likely due to your affinity for iPhone's, it was your own fault.
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Yes it might have been my friends fault since he did the whole process but I'm still disappointed with this phone either way as stated with my the other problems .. Also I used to hate iphones but now I actually like them .. It seems like they just work without any issues .. At least I can enjoy using my nexus 7 without any issues
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Yes it might have been my friends fault since he did the whole process but I'm still disappointed with this phone either way as stated with my the other problems .. Also I used to hate iphones but now I actually like them .. It seems like they just work without any issues .. At least I can enjoy using my nexus 7 without any issues
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Well that's the thing. Android is a developer based OS. It was made to be tinkered with and the time and dedication that it takes is not for everyone. Some prefer their phone to just work and there is the iPhone for that. Get the device that does what you need. Remember they are tools.
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zelendel said:
Well that's the thing. Android is a developer based OS. It was made to be tinkered with and the time and dedication that it takes is not for everyone. Some prefer their phone to just work and there is the iPhone for that. Get the device that does what you need. Remember they are tools.
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G2 just doesent work .. Atleast the D801 one .. I chose to go with android because my friends had android and they were geeks .. I liked how you could customize everything and that they were bigger so I naturally went with android and my first 2 android phones the One X and Nexus 4 were both really nice and worked.. I'm just upset with LG for not caring to fix these issues as I see multiple people with similar problems as me on xda too .. Yet it looks like they are only able to be solved with root .. Secret menu doesn't fix it for me. So I'm probably gonna buy the iPhone 6 when it comes out even one of my geeky friends is starting to like iphones after using 1
we wish you and your future iphone all the happiness
To the OP, I get no lag in games, either you installed some bad apps or maybe some infected pirated apps.
My sister an iPhone user with no tech background, she just switched to the G2 and likes it.
The flicker issue was fixed in an update. Every phone company has issues with their devices. Apple had some updates where battery life sucked for example and it took them a while to update. You cant blame LG for your TWRP brick (I used it and had no problem), thats a risk you knowingly took, it applies to Apple or any other OEM as well.
Just because you had problems installing a custom ROM doesn't make LG or any other OEM bad, they intend you to use their device as is. You screw with it, its your fault.
Honestly I can understand your frustration but its also partly your fault, I certainly hope you enjoy whichever new device you get.
Asta lavista OP..
And ps- use paragraphs next time
Ewww don't mention iPhone's here, you sick sick man. But seriously I have never had a problem with mine and it is by far the best phone I have ever had, and I have had many. I also managed to get my friend to get rid of her iPhone due to the fact she was having many problems with it, I told her to get the G2, she is very impressed and couldn't be happier. Now all she does is mocks iPhone's, just how it should be .
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Kinda funny. You must be the unluckiest G2 buyer in the world. And I had a Nexus 4 too before G2. But you just cannot compare rooting and flashing a nexus with G2. It's a completely different story. You practicaly cannot brick a nexus but you can a G2 and pretty easily if you don't know exactly what you are doing. Imho those replacement phones are probably faulty because they are .... a replacement. My G2 is running stock KK and it's a beast of a phone.
Carry right along.
Never seen a Merc owner argue with VW.
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G2 better than S5,HTC one, iphone 5s
OP..... I fail to understand how you cannot be happy with the G2. I have a s5, HTC one and an iphone5s. HTC and G2 was given by my employer. I bought iphone 5s.Believe me I speak from personal experience, the g2 is my favorite. I regret buying iphone 5. its worthless piece of junk even though i purchased it.
The HTC one is an ok ok phone as I dont like the ui and i thought the camera was better than the one on stock g2. Battery of htc one is outrightly bad. The only place where HTC rocks is speaker output. No one can beat it I agree.
then i was suggested to root the g2 and flash xdabbebs 2.2 version. My my, now the camera can outperform even a dslr man. Clarity,color reproduction, detail, vivid colors...I cant stop. Its absolutely stunning...After rooting my battery lasts over 2 days and the ui is stunning..... I couldnt find a better phone .....
The s5 is nothing better than a piece of junk....the phone even though has 2gb ram, has a substandard processor as against the g2's terrific snapdragon. Touchwizui is pathetic and slows the phone over a period of time as it is basically very resources eater. Sammy launched s5 in India with a degraded processor. The camera is ok ok., Doesnt come any closer to the one on g2.
Coming to sound quality, with the latest 20b indian update, hissing sound has gone, knock code fully embedded and working great, Install viper4 android and the phone will blow you away.
Summing it up, the g2 rocks above all.....I am never departing with this phone...not to forget, g2 has best android dev, in comparison to s5 and htc one, lots of mods and variety of stable roms....ohhhh the battery is muuuaaahhh.:highfive:
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