Ok so here is my setup, I've been rooted since the hour that Revolutionary first dropped, been on plenty or ROMs, stick with Decks Sense ROM, and currently have all firmware up to date. Prior to the 2.3.4 update, my phone slept amazingly well, the little blips on the battery use graph page almost always lined up perfectly between the screen on and awake bars. When the update was released and the new radios were posted, I originally flashed the newest radio/pri combo just to have everything that matters up to date. I quickly realized that after doing so, my phone didn't sleep well at all, the "awake" bar had many little slivers of activity when the screen was off. Keeping in mind that I'm no noob and have been troubleshooting to the best of my abilities, I could use some help now... I have tried reflashing ROMs, turning off the Google auto backup/restore, leaving the phone stock with 0 third party apps and probably other things to try to pinpoint my issue. I have even went and flashed the whole new firmware minus hboot combo pack in hopes of correcting this but to no avail... I'm not sure what else to try so I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can offer me some pointers or suggestions. Attached are some screened showing what I'm talking about. Please note that while my battery life is still pretty decent, and this was a particularly good day, this was with the phone rarely being used as I was at work all day.
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I have the same issue. And my phone is official ROM without rooted or unlocked. (buy from HTC) So, I guess it is a bug from HTC (nothing to do with custom ROM)
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So my friend has a Thunderbolt and she complains about it freezing up when doing text messaging. She has to hit the power button and then it will come back to life. Sometimes she even has to wait a few minutes for it to come back. She has tried to restart it and even takes the battery out. She has also even having troubles with the GPS not working or taking forever to lock. Everytrail will mess up and not get her entire run, etc. I even noticed that my TouchPro2 running android will go from google maps to google navigation faster than her Tbolt. Is this poor performance common for users with the stock rom and the update?
I have no problem messing around with phones and putting custom roms, etc, etc on my phone. I would help her root her phone if its worth rooting. She was concerned it would void warranty, but I saw the thread to restore to stock. Is there anyway for them to tell you were rooted if she has a warranty issue and I return it to stock? She is obviously wanting something that will work better and faster than stock. What would be the best setup for a close to stock look and feel, but more stable and easy to use? Does a rom like that even exist? Help me out here fella's as I told her to get the Tbolt instead of another crackberry and now she is less than happy because her Tbolt sucks stock. Thanks
If i was her i would call and get a replacement and see if that helps b4 messing with the phone. A phone should work properly out of the box.
Wont they just send her a replacement that is a refurb?
They will definitely give her a refurbished no matter how much you complain.
For the gps, try download an app called GPS Status and Toolbox. It's free from the market. Turn GPS on, open up the app, and hit the menu button. Then choose Tools, and choose Manage A-GPS State. Choose reset and see if that helps the GPS lock on faster.
As for the freezing, I'm not sure why its doing that. It could be a rouge app that's hogging the CPU. Tell her to go through and uninstall any apps she doesn't use. Worst case scenario, back up everything she needs, and factory reset the phone. Is a pain, by it might be worth a try.
Rooting does void the warranty. You can return back to stock and they would never know. However, because of this, many people are bricking their phones because they don't know what they are doing and then claim warranty on them. Because of this, the OEMs are starting to lock down the bootloaders to prevent this, and carriers and pressuring them to do so as well.
I, personally, think the tbolt runs faster and has the best battery life stock than with any Rom kernel combo I have tried.
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I'd rather have a functional refurb than a broken new phone. That's just me.
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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The battery percentage isn't always accurate. Try using green power. It's a free app in the market. It an shut your data off when you shut the screen of, and turn it on when you turn the screen back on. You can also set it to turn the data on and let the phone sync. I have none set to turn the data on for 1 minute every two hours to let it sync.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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Plain Jane is a great ROM. its pretty much stock only deodexed and rooted.
I'm currently running das BAMF 2.0 and its very stable and runs great.
As far as sms backup, I never back up any of my text when I flash new ROMs so I couldn't help you there.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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SMS backup works fine. I don't like the HTC messaging app, mine freezes up too. Mostly when you have a ton of messages in a particular thread. Tell her to try handcent. That cleared up my messaging woes. If that doesn't do it I would tell her to go back to the store and have them replace the phone. Refurb or not it's better to have a phone that works. As far as gps that's a well known problem with this phone. I've resigned myself to waiting 90 seconds to get a fix which in reality isn't that bad. The garmin in my car takes at least that long.
Didnt realize there was a rom called plain jane. Sorry but what is deodexed?
I know she doesnt delete her texts so long threads may be an issue. I will have her look at handcent.
The length to lock isnt the biggest issue its the freezing and her missing stuff on everytrail.
So I've had less than stellar luck with this phone. I purchased it and rooted it pretty much on day 1, (this was back in early May) and immediately started seeing some pretty awful rebooting. I switched kernels from Das Bamf's to Imoseyon's, which helped it go from mind-numbing to merely bad (used to reboot EVERY TIME the screen was slept and turned back on, went to happening maybe once an hour)
I switched back to stock, same problem, rebooting literally once an hour. I called Verizon for troubleshooting help and they immediately had me switch it out for a Hardware version 2.0 phone, which I've now had since May 15th. It does work a lot better, but it's still pretty bad. Here's the timeline:
Ran stock for about a week, was seeing 1 reboot every other day, decided to root. Installed BAMF remix 1.7 with the .7/.6 CDMA/LTE radio, which left it pretty much the same, rebooting every 30 hours or so. It's particularly likely to do it when using Navigation or on phone calls. It's not a stress thing, I can run Linpack, quadrant, make calls and surf, whatever, it runs fine at stock speeds, 1.92, 1.92x... and will do so for hours without rebooting (until it does)
Switched to 2.0 w/ the MR2 radio, and the reboots were even worse. Now more like 1-2 times a day. Thinking this was not a radio issue now, I eased down the clock speed (I was running 1.92x kernel) down to stock speeds, no affect. Upped the voltage by switching to 1.92, still no affect, reboots a couple of times day, ALSO with a few random shutdowns thrown in for fun. I tried Standard as well, letting it top out at 1.4, still having the issue.
MR2.5 came out, switched to that, and it became unuseable. Reboots literally every 5-10 minutes, and I tried running it that way for the better part of a day, thinking it was maybe the kernel settling or whatever, but it stayed that bad. I switched back to 2.0 and kept seeing the reboots a couple of times a day, so since they were worse on GB I figured I'd go back to Froyo.
Loaded 1.8 Remix, and the reboots are still happening a few times day. At my wit's end, I decided to go straight back to stock, no root. It ran fine that way for about a day, then randomly shutdown again. It has seemed good so far today, but the random shutdown happening makes me assume it's still not stable.
I really don't think it's a problem with 2 phones in a row, and there's thousands of posts of people experiencing similar problems, so it's not something weird I'm particularly doing. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, as some people are rock solid with Froyo with the .7 radios, or the .6/.7 combo, or some are fine with Gingerbread MR2, or even 2.5. Me, I have no luck with ANYTHING.
Should I start another ticket with Verizon for another dud phone, or is the promised OTA update really going to do something magical that MR 2 or 2.5 haven't already tried to do to fix this thing?
If it were me Id be screaming at somebody at Verizon. If your sure that nothing u did rooting or flashing roms caused the reboots then get a new phone. Rumors say that gingerbread is coming tomorrow but you can't out to much stock in that and even if it does I doubt there is any miracle code written in that's gonna help you.
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Some people have had random reboots on stock rom. But since you were on stock for less than a day, it's impossible to determine whether the reboots are due to a defective phone or something that happened during/after you flashed the custom rom. You obviously know your way around various roms, radios & kernel/cpu tweaks, and nothing seems to help. If you have the patience, go to the IRC channel for more suggestions. If no one there can help, I would restore to stock & exchange the phone. You may have a defective device that will never work right.
So I was pretty faithful to MIUI because of a lot of reasons, but i couldn't easily switch between 2 calls when i had a couple people on the line... Being that i use my phone a lot for business, I decided to go back to Sense as it's very easy and straight forward in terms of call switching...
I decided on Meanrom because of all the hype about the speed, battery life, etc...
I went to this thread and followed these instructions:
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Before you Install, prepare:
2.17.651.5 ROMs need the latest firmware. See freeza's all in one firmware update if you haven't done that already. If you unlocked via the HTC method, you know the drill: you'll have to take the OTA and then re-unlock.
If you are already running an older version of MeanROM, you should be OK just flashing this ROM without a full wipe, BUT...
If you have any trouble at all, do a super wipe and then install the above firmware and this ROM
Go to "Menu", "Settings", "Power" and UNcheck "Fast Boot". When you reboot or power off the phone, you really want it to reboot/power-off. This can save you a lot of headaches.
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Since then, my phone will randomly lock up completely requiring a battery pull to restart it. (not even vol-up+vol-down+power is working)
sometimes it locks while the screen is on, sometimes while off... red light usually flashes when it locks with screen off....
after a lockup it seems like the battery loses like 25% or more once rebooted.
It seems like its usually after a call, or switching on/off Wifi, etc.
Battery life on this phone has never been worse!
Thinking that my issues were with the rom, i tried infected rom, same issue, then i went back to MIUI.... still same issues...
Anyway.... Different roms, different Kernels, same problems, leads me to think that this is a radio issue... anyone point me in the right direction??
I am on the verge of smashing this piece of **** with a large hammer if i can't get it fixed... so save a phone, and my sanity, please.
thanks!
Unfortunately I don't have any answers as I just s-offed/rooted my phone for the first time tonight, but considering I am planning on installing the same firmware upgrades/rom, you wouldn't happen to know if your Evo is HBOOT 1.3/1.4?
I have read about firmware issues with 1.5 elsewhere, but I've got a Nand backup and HBOOT 1.4 so I'm feeling lucky.
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So I was pretty faithful to MIUI because of a lot of reasons, but i couldn't easily switch between 2 calls when i had a couple people on the line... Being that i use my phone a lot for business, I decided to go back to Sense as it's very easy and straight forward in terms of call switching...
I decided on Meanrom because of all the hype about the speed, battery life, etc...
I went to this thread and followed these instructions:
Since then, my phone will randomly lock up completely requiring a battery pull to restart it. (not even vol-up+vol-down+power is working)
sometimes it locks while the screen is on, sometimes while off... red light usually flashes when it locks with screen off....
after a lockup it seems like the battery loses like 25% or more once rebooted.
It seems like its usually after a call, or switching on/off Wifi, etc.
Battery life on this phone has never been worse!
Thinking that my issues were with the rom, i tried infected rom, same issue, then i went back to MIUI.... still same issues...
Anyway.... Different roms, different Kernels, same problems, leads me to think that this is a radio issue... anyone point me in the right direction??
I am on the verge of smashing this piece of **** with a large hammer if i can't get it fixed... so save a phone, and my sanity, please.
thanks!
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if your talking about meanrom's ICS build: Chad had a fix for this that didnt require flasing rogue firmware - but he had to remove it from XDA. some of the newer ics roms may work w/ older firmware.. if not, search for chads ics test kernel.
Ok here's the rundown: my phone has been working perfectly before 3 days ago when i flashed the most recent radios etc. and the most recent MeanROM ICS. Between 3 days ago and last night it would show a screen full of static randomly for long periods of time, the bootloader would not show, the recovery screen responded slow, and the normal screen responded slow but i could still type something or use an app but i could not see what i was doing; then switched back to MeanROM ICS 2.4 (yea, I know) which did nothing. Last night, however, it randomly starts working like a charm. Then this morning it will respond and isn't showing the static screen a lot, but i have to do a lot of unnecessary screen tapping for the screen to keep up.
My thought is that it may be the aggressive the single-core process killing app processes too much to save battery which might be depleting RAM and not switching back to dual core or my phone doesn't appreciate the weather lol.
So with all this being said, what should I do?
Try a different ROM and see if the issue still persist. SuperLTE works great for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800065 There are a bunch of great ROMS but maybe your phone doesn't run well with Mean Rom (great Rom btw). Good luck.
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Try a different ROM and see if the issue still persist. SuperLTE works great for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800065 There are a bunch of great ROMS but maybe your phone doesn't run well with Mean Rom (great Rom btw). Good luck.
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Thanks, flashing OMJ's Rom now and will flash SuperLTE if that fails
So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
Do you clear the cache in your app settings. If you game a lot than I would definitely start with the game apps first.
Cachemate for root users
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...chemate&pcampaignid=APPU__rOUVPowg5TJBNTAgKAD
Android 5.0.1 is pretty lag free in my opinion
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So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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Its hard to say what is causing your issue, and aside from saying Swype is lagging (might be an issue with that app itself) and the phone "doesn't run so great anymore" you really haven't provided any specifics of what the problem is. You also haven't indicated if you tried to clear cached as jball suggested, and if so, if it helped at all.
Might be some runaway (poorly coded) AT&T bloat apps. But in general, apps running in the background will not slow the system down much. There are various apps to track battery and memory usage, so you might try one of those, to determine if any particular apps are the culprit.
I can't say I've seen any lag on my M8, but I switch ROMs fairly occasionally, and keep it updated to current Android builds (thanks to s-off). Clearing up your data partition alone might help (but might now, on the other hand) so you might also consider backing up any personal data and doing a factory reset. Wiping the slate clean might solve your issue.
Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Does it happen anywhere you use WiFi? If so maybe try fully wiping and flashing the firmware, or just bust out the ruu to make it easier, can't hurt to try it should help tho
Did you even try to wipe cache, as has been suggested twice previously?
Otherwise, if no major system changes, and the phone has just been running worse and worse, a factory reset may help; as I would have to think it may be 3rd party apps that are to blame. Backup your personal data, factory reset, and just start to install a minimum of apps, and see how it runs.
If still no improvement, the above comment to try to RUU is not a bad idea, either. RUU provides a fully "blank slate" and may solve your issue.