3500mah battery woes.... - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So here's the deal. I bought two 3500mah batteries for $24 bucks off ebays "buy it now". They're cheap chinese 1billion made type batteries but last 36 hours. 17 avg off my 1930mah stock so worth the $25 in my eyes.
Here's my issue. I've installed cm7 beta with new battery in at %100. I've wiped stats at %100. Let it die and recharge without interruption. Wiped battery stats numerous times. Cmw and the calibration application. My issue persists. I will have the same "stats" as my stock battery but with a huge "reserve". By reserve I mean I will be at %1 for 7 hours or more. I can't be the only one.
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Source i basically use mv for an accurate check. Seeing I'm usually dead about 3400.
Anyone, anyone, anyone, Beuler.
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Kinda OT but you actually got Ebay batteries that outlast the original one? Or they last 36 hours combined??
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Original or stock batteries are 1930mah
I got 2x 3500mah off ebay. I'll look it up and link.
Edit:
The batteries:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220799408011
A small forum "review":
http://forums.androidcentral.com/evo-accessories/40747-offbrand-3500mah-ebay-do-they-work-well.html
Stupid links won't link.
Mugen is the way to go I hear, but you're looking at $100+.
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quick question; do you know if the new back cover you get for those batteries still allows the unit to fit in a dock? (Car and desktop?)

ydgmms said:
quick question; do you know if the new back cover you get for those batteries still allows the unit to fit in a dock? (Car and desktop?)
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I don't own a dock, but I'll say no. The phone is almost 2x thicker.
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nvm wrong place sorry!

I'm having similar issue with a "2000mah" battery off ebay. Lasts aboue twice as much at 1% vs. 100% to 2%. I've noticed that battery is around 3900-3800mV when it first reaches 1%. and phones shuts off around 3400mV...
I'm gonna pop in the original bat and see...

To calibrate, try with "Battery left" app
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delewer said:
To calibrate, try with "Battery left" app
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interesting, will try that.
the odd thing is that the original battery goes dead at 3400mV also...
I wonder how these things work. Does the phone "remember" different batteries, or is it just the same "calibration file" for any battery plugged in? if that's the case, then we cannot use "spare" batteries then?

felchi80 said:
interesting, will try that.
the odd thing is that the original battery goes dead at 3400mV also...
I wonder how these things work. Does the phone "remember" different batteries, or is it just the same "calibration file" for any battery plugged in? if that's the case, then we cannot use "spare" batteries then?
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All modern lith ion batteries max out around 4200mv (anymore and they risk exploding) and are considered "empty" at 3400-3300 depending on the manufacture, if they decharge anymore they won't charge again. I'm guessing there's a calibration chip in the battery that's messed up on the Ebay batteries or something of that sort. If you were to but an OEM battery the battery life gauge works just fine.
Think of it like this mV is how full you're gas tank is in you're car 4200 full 3400 empty. Now every car can be 100% full but every car doesn't have the same size tank or Mah in this case. So basically you switched the gas tank on your car with a bigger one but didn't change how it reads how full your tank is so basically you need to guess by your mV.
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i just ordered one off ebay for 10.50, its on its way i will let you know how mine goes

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Where do we buy an extra battery for the HTC TyTN? (or Dopod, O2 Hermes...)
It is really frustrating that HTC doesnt seem to market any of these...
TyTN extra batteries are available
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=4633
or here http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
wow prices are arounr $50-60 + shipping, pretty steep. I think i will hold out for a while :lol:
TyTN battery available on eBay now
http://cgi.ebay.com/Replacement-Bat...ryZ75446QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I bought the extra battery from eXpansys. Be advised that this is a slightly different battery than the one that came with your TyTN:
Stock battery: HERM161, 1350 mA
Replacement battery: HERM160, 1300 mA
I can't honestly say if I've seen a difference between the two batteries, but you should be aware of the difference!
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A final word to the wise on buying the eXpansys spare:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
The text description says it's a 1350 mA battery, but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery... and that's what they sent me!
goestoeleven said:
I bought the extra battery from eXpansys. Be advised that this is a slightly different battery than the one that came with your TyTN:
Stock battery: HERM161, 1350 mA
Replacement battery: HERM160, 1300 mA
I can't honestly say if I've seen a difference between the two batteries, but you should be aware of the difference!
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A final word to the wise on buying the eXpansys spare:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
The text description says it's a 1350 mA battery, but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery... and that's what they sent me!
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goestoeleven,
I ordered mine a few days ago and it will probably be the same battery. Does it work well on the TyTN and how did you get it charged?
Thanks.
I can only charge one battery at a time (the one inside the phone)...
Hence my rant on the thread about Cradles without extra battery slots...
goestoeleven said:
I can only charge one battery at a time (the one inside the phone)...
Hence my rant on the thread about Cradles without extra battery slots...
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I got my battery but it has been more than 24 hours and the red light is still on for charging. How long did it take for you? Thanks.
Initially I just charged it for a few hours. It behaved exactly the same as the original stock battery.
It's my second battery and I still cannot get it to charge -- the red light is on for days whether I try AC power or hooked into the PC via USB.
The battery cannot be bad so it must be my HTC TyTN. Any ideas what I need to look at in the battery comparment?
Thanks.
but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery...
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Actually, that picture says HERM161 and 1350mAh...unless I'm going blind
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no charge new battery with red light
I also am having the same problem. I have been thru 3 batteries. Some crappy poor life knock off from ebay. but also 2 expansys batteries. The expansys batteries just give a red light and dont charge. Any ideas what is wrong?
Jason
spiderman09 said:
I also am having the same problem. I have been thru 3 batteries. Some crappy poor life knock off from ebay. but also 2 expansys batteries. The expansys batteries just give a red light and dont charge. Any ideas what is wrong?
Jason
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This red red light no charge business not just with TyTn batteries but several other phones and different battery types. Usually occurs with a problem with feedback from cells in battery to the charging circuit. Most oftgen there is no real fault with either battery or phone. It normally occurs if the battery is allowed to completely discharge. I am not aware of an easy fix, except I have faced the problem myself and with original battery. Also had it with another LG phone. On these occasions I got them to work eventually by several times plugging and unplugging charger lead and also taking battery out of phone for ten minutes then reinserting worked once. All a bit hap hazard but they always worked eventually and once going worked fine after that.
Good luck
Mike

No idea if this battery will work, but it was cheap

I'll let you guys know how it works, hope it doesn't mess anything up. Less than $8 shipped. If it doesn't work, it was worth the $8 to find out.
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http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Standar..._11?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1319251419&sr=1-11
Nicktuso said:
I'll let you guys know how it works, hope it doesn't mess anything up. Less than $8 shipped. If it doesn't work, it was worth the $8 to find out.
http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Standar..._11?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1319251419&sr=1-11
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Do keep us updated on your findings!
Keeps doing some sort of battery loop thing when I charge it on the regular wall charger. Fits fine, but loops, anyone know how to fix that or did I waste $7
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i had the same issue! its because its not NFC battery. i learned the hard way! Unless you buy a external charger you cant charge it. I bought 2, i use it as a backup and have a dock to charge
joshuadjohnson22 said:
i had the same issue! its because its not NFC battery. i learned the hard way! Unless you buy a external charger you cant charge it. I bought 2, i use it as a backup and have a dock to charge
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Is there a cheap dock anywhere? I mean like $5, I'd love to be able to use this battery but geeze, this should just work.
Wouldn't this work?
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-GT-...NI/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1319834464&sr=8-19
yes as long as the battery is the same size as the original it would work. I noticed with the 3500 mah batteries the charging spot wont fit, but that should be fine
Battery is awesome. Been in since 8am and it's right under 50%(I'm a heavy user). I'm going to test this battery back to back with the stock one and show results maybe Monday. Got the charger for the battery, works fine for me.
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Nicktuso said:
No idea if this will work, but it was cheap
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I hope you don't use the same shopping\selection method with condoms. ;-)
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Nicktuso said:
Keeps doing some sort of battery loop thing when I charge it on the regular wall charger. Fits fine, but loops, anyone know how to fix that or did I waste $7
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That's how it works (and has been stated no less than 200 times in the 30 or so threads addressing the issue. You either buy original, or have to charge externally. For me, having to use a dock-charger is utter BS. I don't have the time nor desire to remove the battery from the phone to let it recharge. Carrying multiple batteries is just silly. If you're going to go through that hassle to save a couple bucks cool, or you could just carry a second OEM battery. Guess some people put a different value on things tho.
These looks like the same ones I got from amazon a while ago ($16 for 3 batteries + charger), you can see my complaint here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298380
The batteries are cheap and very generic, I junked one 2 days afterwards as that one with it charged to 100%, it lasted maybe 6 hours. It also charges in like an hour. The other 2 batteries, i would say that it last about 60% of the OEM, getting about 20 hours from them with about 1.5 hours of screen time. Still, its usable, but I did not find them to be as strong as the OEMs.
I hope you have better luck with yours...

Using T-Bolt batteries in your new Rezound

Yes, the T-Bolt batteries will fit. Standard size batteries will NOT charge in your Rezound. Extended batteries will fit the Rezound extended battery cover, and WILL charge in your Rezound.
VZW is still selling (I think) a standalone battery charger for $5, so if you have a bunch of T-Bolt batteries and want to use them, that is a simple way to keep them charged.
I'm not seeing good battery life at all out of my T-Bolt batteries. Yes, I realize they have a smaller capacity than the Rezound, but I'm only getting about 2 hours of use before the T-Bolt batteries die. Still, they make good backups.
seriously, i don't see how you tolerate doing the whole battery swap bit. granted i used to do that for awhile with my Thunderbolt, but once i upgraded to that 4500mAh battery i swore i'd never do the swap bit again.
right now i'm considering getting that 2750mAh Rezound battery, but $60 is a tad high... i hope something else comes out soon.
I hate swapping out. I'm getting a solid day out of the T-Bolt extended batteries. But, I hate being without extras, so it's nice to throw a couple of batteries in the glovebox, bag, pocket, etc.
Swapping is far better than having a giant ugly phone that doesn't fit in your pocket and still have to have tethered to a charger for hours at a time. 2 extra batteries and a standalone charger and you never have to charge your phone, you never have to worry about how much battery you have, just let it die and swap it out. Extended batteries dont last all day either with heavy use but two standard batteries will and you always have a 3rd battery waiting when you get home if you go nuts and god forbid watch two full length movies.
Kane5581 said:
Swapping is far better than having a giant ugly phone that doesn't fit in your pocket and still have to have tethered to a charger for hours at a time. 2 extra batteries and a standalone charger and you never have to charge your phone, you never have to worry about how much battery you have, just let it die and swap it out. Extended batteries dont last all day either with heavy use but two standard batteries will and you always have a 3rd battery waiting when you get home if you go nuts and god forbid watch two full length movies.
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giant ... ugly ... does this not appeal to you?...
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Do you get the battery warning icon using those batteries? If so, I would recommend NOT using them. Its not a good idea.
Read a bit more here.
voxigenboy said:
seriously, i don't see how you tolerate doing the whole battery swap bit. granted i used to do that for awhile with my Thunderbolt, but once i upgraded to that 4500mAh battery i swore i'd never do the swap bit again.
right now i'm considering getting that 2750mAh Rezound battery, but $60 is a tad high... i hope something else comes out soon.
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The 2750mAh HTC battery is half off at corporate Verizon stores, and should have a MSRP of $49.99 not $60.
Marine6680 said:
Do you get the battery warning icon using those batteries? If so, I would recommend NOT using them. Its not a good idea.
Read a bit more here.
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Not with the extended T-bolt batteries. They charge while in the phone, and the battery icon works.

QCell AT&T Samsung Galaxy S2 / SII SGH-i777 3600mAh Extended Battery

Hello guys,
I purchased one of these and so far so good. I'm running an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II- with "ICScrewD Red Edition UCKH7" Rom
The battery is able to charge while the device is operational without boot loops.
After the first charge I ran cpu/memory/gpu stress tests serveral times during the day, kept BT, WI-FI and GPS on while on the road, streamed music, watch videos, set display to max and time out to 2 minutes to expedite discharge basically above normal use.. The baterry lasted 20 hours under those conditions.
After a second full charge the cellphone have been running on battery for 28 hours with almost 4 hours of display time and is showing 56% battery charge left.
The back cover fits perfectly. The only thing I would like to find is a travel charger for it. I bought a GTMAX charger but the battery does not fit in it. I can only charge regular size batteries on the travel charger.
Hope this helps others looking for an extended battery.
http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung...5GK0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329164059&sr=8-1
3600mah?! that's intense. Would you mind posting up a few picks to compare the thickness of the phone with that on vs Stock? Thanks
No problem. Will do once at home a little later.
Don't know if I want to trust another battery from Qcell as far as what capacity they rate it.
Bought a supposed 1950 mah battery through them and it turns out that it's really only 1650 mah. While the battery performance is on par with stock which is fine, if you buy it under the pretense that it'll get you better battery life, stay away.
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No problem. Will do once at home a little later.
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Any pictures yet?
Here's some pics of the battery and case
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That thing looks beastly!
yupe, it is! case fits pretty well. Also got the slim battery for this phone which is pretty good too
Cool, can't wait to see your results.
Do you have any pictures of it on the phone? Is it awkward out does it work well?
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I decided to give this battery a try because of jury duty coming up. I'll drain it then charge it over night and should have some results soon. Pictures on the phone are included for those that want to know how it looks on the phone.
Jadefalkon said:
I decided to give this battery a try because of jury duty coming up. I'll drain it then charge it over night and should have some results soon. Pictures on the phone are included for those that want to know how it looks on the phone.
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When I look at those pictures, all I see is this
Are you going to get some sort of bumper or case to go along with that? I'm interested to see if the battery door/cover from other 3000+mAh batteries would work with this one - like the one from the GT Max.
I'm going to use the SGP Neo Ex with the battery. I tried the tpu case for extended battery packs but it didn't fit. The back cover of the gtmax didn't fit my phone correctly.
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\/icious said:
Your phone has a tumor. Better get that thing checked to see if its cancerous before you put that thing to your ear Thanks for the pics.
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LMAO, yeah I'm not big on the design of the back cover but it's going to get me through hours in the jury pool. I have a seidio on order and hopefully that back cover will fit better than the first one I ordered.
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nice bat. What about the first uses? should you discharged full and then charged till 100%? or you should use it normally till like 40% and then recharged full? (40% to don't degrade the battery life)
Jayanthy said:
Will i be able to get QCell battery for Moto X ?
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You can either Google your question, or ask in the Moto X forum: no one here is likely to give you an accurate answer.
Hi, I followed the link you posted so that I can buy one but they are all listed as being for the GSIII???

Andida extended battery

Does anyone know If this battery is any good?
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I ordered mine from OBOStore about 5 days ago for just under $9 shipped...they come straight from China so shipping will take a couple weeks.
I have heard mixed reviews about Andida, but imho its just as good as Anker
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magiconthetire said:
I ordered mine from OBOStore about 5 days ago for just under $9 shipped...they come straight from China so shipping will take a couple weeks.
I have heard mixed reviews about Andida, but imho its just as good as Anker
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thanks for your input
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In my honest opinion Anker trump all but anything besides stock probably have an advantage. I reccomend the Anker 2 pack plus charger on Amazon personally
I can't post a link due to the fact I lurk and don't ever post apparently. I'll only you it
Anker x 2 + Charger from Amazon...
Flipnfr3ak said:
Does anyone know If this battery is any good?
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I used them with my hd2. They did not have anywhere near the claimed capacity, but were better than stock. They weren't available when I bought spare batteries, so I'm using Anker. With ICS I don't use the spare batteries much anyway.
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I've read numerous reports about the Anker displaying inaccurate % after a full charge and such. Guess I'll give it a shot myself and order one. Anything better than the stock battery is preferred.
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Inaccurate % was due the different voltage in batteries. All of ankers batteries out there for our phone are 3.7V and we use a 3.8V. There used to be a very extensive report on anker and another company somewhere in our forums but I can't find it.
Just to be clear there's nothing wrong with using a undervolted battery as long as you aren't undervolting trough setCPU or any other similar program. It will have a negative effect on batter life and phone preformance.
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getrdy said:
Inaccurate % was due the different voltage in batteries. All of ankers batteries out there for our phone are 3.7V and we use a 3.8V. There used to be a very extensive report on anker and another company somewhere in our forums but I can't find it.
Just to be clear there's nothing wrong with using a undervolted battery as long as you aren't undervolting trough setCPU or any other similar program. It will have a negative effect on batter life and phone preformance.
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I've always wondered if the Amaze phone hardware charges to 3.8, and may have problems with overcharging the Anker. I have always charged my Ankers via external charger.
getrdy said:
Inaccurate % was due the different voltage in batteries. All of ankers batteries out there for our phone are 3.7V and we use a 3.8V. There used to be a very extensive report on anker and another company somewhere in our forums but I can't find it.
Just to be clear there's nothing wrong with using a undervolted battery as long as you aren't undervolting trough setCPU or any other similar program. It will have a negative effect on batter life and phone preformance.
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stevedebi said:
I've always wondered if the Amaze phone hardware charges to 3.8, and may have problems with overcharging the Anker. I have always charged my Ankers via external charger.
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O.K. so I shouldn't be charging it in the phone at all? or just not to 100%? because it seems whenever I do charge it to 100% as soon as I take it off it drops to 96% almost instantly... but I usually get 12-14hrs of med-heavy usage... and usually at least 6hrs of extreme usage... so I think it does have capacity... wish I had done a little more research before buying though, would have bought a 3.8V battery...
blast0id said:
O.K. so I shouldn't be charging it in the phone at all? or just not to 100%? because it seems whenever I do charge it to 100% as soon as I take it off it drops to 96% almost instantly... but I usually get 12-14hrs of med-heavy usage... and usually at least 6hrs of extreme usage... so I think it does have capacity... wish I had done a little more research before buying though, would have bought a 3.8V battery...
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No, I have actually been charging it in my phone these days. It started when I forgot I had swapped out my OEM battery, and it was fine in the morning. So you can use the phone to charge.
I don't know if there are any 3.8v batteries of this size, except OEM.
EDIT: Mine drops % pretty rapidly after disconnecting the power as well.
stevedebi said:
EDIT: Mine drops % pretty rapidly after disconnecting the power as well.
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Thanks for the feedback, it must just be the voltage difference that throws off the system... I appreciate your prompt input!

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