Hi guys
I got my Titan yesterday but only managed to have a play today.
Ive noticed mine suffers badly from the grip of death just holding the dam thing.
Am i the only one with this problem?
Grip of Death? Meaning you loose signal by holding it?
Yep hold it and say bye bye to signal.
Whoah, I was thinking of getting a Titan, more info please before I make a terrible mistake.
HAHA reminds of me Apple's response to the grip of death on the iPhone 4.
There is no grip of death... uh.. you are holding it wrong.. actually all phones do it if you hold it in a weird way.. eh.. here have a free bumper. all without an apology.
Unlucky dude.
hoping it's just an issue with your particular handset rather than the whole batch.
will you put up a review of the titan soon?
Ive tested the device with a Tmobile sim, i get the same results but no as bad as Vodafone UK.
On Vodafone it goes from H 3 bars down to G 1 bar.
On Tmobile it start off with the full 5 then drops down to 1 to 3 bars on H.
I will made a vid when i have time and post it up.
As im still waiting on my ebay case to turn up, i dont know if this will resolve the problem.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, to see what they have to say.
Attenuation? Yes. All of HTC's phones suffer quite a bit from it.
Nothing new to see here. Anyone who keeps up with this forum knows that HTC phones have terrible Attenuation and their phones tend to get weaker cell signal on the same carrier even compared to other phones that use similar or identical internals (as WP7 launch devices did - try an HD7S and a Focus, the Focus is stronger).
Motorola > Nokia > RIM > Samsung > * > * > HTC for good cell signal quality and strength.
I'm almost convinced it must be something to do with how they design their devices.
Mine isn't so bad. I just received it yesterday and while the radio on it doesn't beat out the focus it works well. I'm not too impressed with the supposedly infinitely better battery life though...
sutt359 said:
Ive tested the device with a Tmobile sim, i get the same results but no as bad as Vodafone UK.
On Vodafone it goes from H 3 bars down to G 1 bar.
On Tmobile it start off with the full 5 then drops down to 1 to 3 bars on H.
I will made a vid when i have time and post it up.
As im still waiting on my ebay case to turn up, i dont know if this will resolve the problem.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, to see what they have to say.
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They will say the same thing they said when they got called out during "Antennagate."
http://www.gsmarena.com/antennagate_2_htc_responds_to_the_hd7_antenna_death_grip-news-2117.php
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z33dev33l said:
Mine isn't so bad. I just received it yesterday and while the radio on it doesn't beat out the focus it works well. I'm not too impressed with the supposedly infinitely better battery life though...
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The issue is two-fold:
HTC phones even with equivalent Radios (which is in the SoC, BTW), have worse signal quality than phones for other manufacturers.
HTC phones suffered from Death Grip issues with the same internals when other OEMs' phones did not.
The HD7/Focus is just one example. It happens a lot in their Android phones. The HD2 had Death Grip/Weak Signal issues, as well.
It has something to do with how they design their antennas, and they don't seem to be taking a hint and trying to remedy the issue.
The bigger the phone is, the more of an issue is becomes becaue the more of your hand you have to use to reliably hold the device while talking.
Also, in low-coverage areas dropping 2-3 bars can be the difference between talking on the phone, and dropping a call. It affects data speeds a lot, as well.
As for the battery, every OEM claims infinitely better battery life just cause they added a few hundred mAh to the battery size. They just forget to mention that the increase in other specs and hardware pretty much cancels that out
sayonical said:
grip of death? Meaning you loose signal by holding it?
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Don't most phone do this to some extent, not just HTC? The DVP has it too. Even the humble Nokia E71 has to held upside down to get the best signal. The DVP is worse as it starts off with a weak radio generally even before you start to attenuate signals with your hand.
Posible fix
sutt359 said:
Hi guys
I got my Titan yesterday but only managed to have a play today.
Ive noticed mine suffers badly from the grip of death just holding the dam thing.
Am i the only one with this problem?
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Hi, I was having the same issue.. and I founded the solution. The problem is with the litle contacts that have the case.. check the picture and check if all of them make the right contact.. On my phone one of the litle metal was not doing the right contact (it was down) I move it a litle up..
With this litle fix I get the reception from 2bars to 5 bars on the same place
Hope this helps
Iosu
i believe all most all HTC put the attena on the low-back part. Just don't put your hand all over it and you are fine.
Iphone 4 problem happen usually because our fingers usually place right on their spot when calling.
I have absolutely no problem with mine, reception similar if not slightly better than my hd7
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Checked mine and wrapping both hands around the phone doesnt lower the signal.
50% calls - other party can't hear me but I can clearly hear them.
It may be related to this or other software/hardware failure.
How come they don't test these devices?
Im almost starting to think I've been lucky with my handset.
I have none of the problems that have been posted on this forum, nor do I have this "grip of death".
Sorry to hear about all the problems, but I absolutely love my phone. The only quarrel I have is the lack of syncing of multiple google calendars and the inability of turning off autorotation.
avelon said:
Im almost starting to think I've been lucky with my handset.
I have none of the problems that have been posted on this forum, nor do I have this "grip of death".
Sorry to hear about all the problems, but I absolutely love my phone. The only quarrel I have is the lack of syncing of multiple google calendars and the inability of turning off autorotation.
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can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?
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rdy2go said:
50% calls - other party can't hear me but I can clearly hear them.
It may be related to this or other software/hardware failure.
How come they don't test these devices?
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I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..
There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?
my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5
OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
iosub said:
can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?
Thanks
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I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..
There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?
my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5
OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
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I've got the latest version (1.09).
50% of calls (more or less) are "listen-only" (LOL but it's not funny at all @ this price level), reboot doesn't help - some calls are OK, some calls are not; in the same area (office, home) -- my SGS2 works flawlessly, very strong HSDPA signal (maximum strength)
It's random issue, probably hard to detect and fix, I'm so frustrated...
iosub said:
can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?
Thanks
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I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..
There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?
my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5
OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
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I have the exact same version as you mate.. I have not experienced any dropped calls or that the other cannot hear me.
Sorry to hear this..
Related
Man this Amaze can get really hot, i was wifi syncing my music and the moment i touched my phone it was super hot, wonder why the hell it is happening
vikramdhani said:
Man this Amaze can get really hot, i was wifi syncing my music and the moment i touched my phone it was super hot, wonder why the hell it is happening
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How long have you had the phone?
Mine got warm first few days of use, but once broken in, all warmth went away. Regular temp like my MT4G now
CalicoJeb said:
How long have you had the phone?
Mine got warm first few days of use, but once broken in, all warmth went away. Regular temp like my MT4G now
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I have the phone for a little over a week but today it was hot, i mean i have never felt a phone that hot, hope it will get better or may be this is how these phones are lol
This morning I used Viber to make a call. Somewhere at the 29th minutes into the conversation I noticed the phone was getting so hot that I can not let it touch my face any more so I hanged up and check, Baterry Monitor Widget indicates temperature were at 114.4 Fahrenheit. I have 3Do case on at that moment so I took the case off in hopes to cool it down ...
Anyone ever get that kind of temperature with your phone before?
antiquezip said:
This morning I used Viber to make a call. Somewhere at the 29th minutes into the conversation I noticed the phone was getting so hot that I can not let it touch my face any more so I hanged up and check, Baterry Monitor Widget indicates temperature were at 114.4 Fahrenheit. I have 3Do case on at that moment so I took the case off in hopes to cool it down ...
Anyone ever get that kind of temperature with your phone before?
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Is this something we should be worried about?
I just got my Amaze yesterday and haven't even used it yet.
Waiting for a screen protector.
Is this a common problem? 114f sounds pretty serious.
This may be weird, but have you guys switched to the SIM cards included in the box? The first week I had mine, it used to get really hot, I read somewhere that switching to the new sim card fixed that. Just a guess really, mine gets warm, but only after intensive use for about an hour or so..
There is an update too that was released and that from what I've heard has helped with this type of issue.
Just about every phone overheats once in awhile but you'll notice it a lot more with HTC phones because of the materials (metals) used to build the phone. Metals will always be too hot in the Summer and too cold in the winter. Similar to leather seats in a car without the heat or a/c on.
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nguyendqh said:
Is this something we should be worried about?
I just got my Amaze yesterday and haven't even used it yet.
Waiting for a screen protector.
Is this a common problem? 114f sounds pretty serious.
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Not sure since this is my first 1/2 hour conversation - I will recheck again tomorrow with both calling on Tmobile and Viber to sort it out. I suspect it may cause by using Viber eventhough my previous use of Viber on HD2 did not caused such ...
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Leachpunk said:
This may be weird, but have you guys switched to the SIM cards included in the box? The first week I had mine, it used to get really hot, I read somewhere that switching to the new sim card fixed that. Just a guess really, mine gets warm, but only after intensive use for about an hour or so..
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I am using the new sim card that came with the package.
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daswahnsinn said:
There is an update too that was released and that from what I've heard has helped with this type of issue.
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I'm on the latest firmware 1.36.531.6 though
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OuncE718 said:
Just about every phone overheats once in awhile but you'll notice it a lot more with HTC phones because of the materials (metals) used to build the phone. Metals will always be too hot in the Summer and too cold in the winter. Similar to leather seats in a car without the heat or a/c on.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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I hopes it only happened once in a while too since I came from HD2 running both Winmo and Android - both SD card and Nand and my HD2 always been inside Otterbox Defender case and I've never had such issue.
Let's cross finger. Still have another 7 days to exchange tho
Viber
Could you tell me what Viber is?
nguyendqh said:
Could you tell me what Viber is?
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It's a VOIP program that allowed you to make free international calls provided the other party has it on their phone too. It's work on iPhone3GS and up and on any Android. Similiar to Skype and stuff like that without the hassle to sign-in when you using it.
https://market.android.com/details?...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52aWJlci52b2lwIl0.
It's happening to my phone also , every single phone that's released is going to have a faulty batch & I think me & you received them my phone got hot & my battery broke ;x
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daswahnsinn said:
There is an update too that was released and that from what I've heard has helped with this type of issue.
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FWIW: Mine NEVER gets hot--no matter what I am doing. The initial update (included in the newer roms) supposedly fixed the heating issue.
check your battery usage to see what app is using up your battery. i had the same problem with my amaze it would get supper hot and battery would die in 4 hours with no usage. turns out it was youmail the voicemaill app that was killing my phone.
ebocioj said:
check your battery usage to see what app is using up your battery. i had the same problem with my amaze it would get supper hot and battery would die in 4 hours with no usage. turns out it was youmail the voicemaill app that was killing my phone.
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Is there an app you recommend for monitoring battery usage?
I've seen screen shots of people showing some sort of battery graph and chart before, just don't know what they used to get that.
Thanks.
Its all about radio transmits while using wifi and voice over ip . I think it happens especially when use VOIP software. Example fring too. Just try to soft reset and it will fix. It happens to Samsung galaxy ii as well.
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ashupanchal said:
Its all about radio transmits while using wifi and voice over ip . I think it happens especially when use VOIP software. Example fring too. Just try to soft reset and it will fix. It happens to Samsung galaxy ii as well.
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Not in my case. I was using VoIP on my mobile data connection.
I guess Revolution maybe right in that his and mine are in the same faulty batch though. Hopefully we got more members tracking on this issue for 114> Fareinheit is absolutely worrysome
Hello everybody! I just bought a second hand HTC Titan yesterday evening . As i said, it's a second hand device, with no box, only the accesories. Realy amazing phone. After checking the phone a little, toghether with the seller,he taked out his sim card and perform a hard reset, then i payed the money and went home. Here i spend more time checking the phone and i found a few weird things...:
1) The phone got like a printed serial number (i did not noticed that before to any of my previous devices) up in the left corner.
2) I have tryed to listen some music last night, but the music did not play thru the headphones but only to the speaker. I update the software to 8107 and everything was ok.
3) Although the phone is not Chevron unlocked, I noticed some aplications on my phone, wich I think they are too powerfull to be on every phone (some of them seems to be able to "touch" the drivers). Some of them only have a generic icon, a white "sun" inside of the black/green tile. I do not know exactly what are they for, i try to google it but no results. I guess that they are cooked in the rom, since they are still there after hard reset and i can't uninstall all of them. These aplications are the following:
- GCFSettings
- QC BSP Service
- TestSuite
- zBig Boss Settings
- zCompass
- zGesture Bester
- zSensorView
- zStart KITL.
I'll attach some pictures, maybe someone will bring some light to me: is this a test device? And if it is, does it mean that the device is inferior, by any meaning, to any other one?
Thank you very much, i'm looking forward for an answer.
If you look in settings and about you should see if it's a developer phone as it's normally under the phone info/more, Have heard of dev phones being sold and the users didn't have full use and lost their information after a set time etc.
AndyFZ1S said:
If you look in settings and about you should see if it's a developer phone as it's normally under the phone info/more, Have heard of dev phones being sold and the users didn't have full use and lost their information after a set time etc.
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There's nothing suggesting that is a developer phone in "About"... Anyway, i hope i'm not gonna lose any personal data/information. Thanks!
You need to exstact them and have them placed into a cab so we all can enjoy them.
You have one of the build sample of HTC. Because the serial is still on the case.
And you have HTC Test Tool on, means that this phone is from OEM as testing device, yes. only OEM and Test Build Mango Device has Integrop Unlock to install those thing.
Probably whoever you bought this phone off, is a developer, and this is the testing build of the Titan.
By the way, i forgot to mention, you are one of the luckiest person in this forum to have a OEM - Unlocked Mango Device.
So that mean you can access registry, install Advanced Config and do all other hacking stuffs that we are dreaming about, because final build is Integrop-Locked.
So, my first suggestion right now, is creating a back up for this phone right away, so if you ever have to hard reset the phone, you still have a back up to restore, so you won't loose the OEM-Unlock.
alphaacres said:
You need to exstact them and have them placed into a cab so we all can enjoy them.
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I'm afraid i don't know how to do that.
Strike_Eagle said:
By the way, i forgot to mention, you are one of the luckiest person in this forum to have a OEM - Unlocked Mango Device.
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So, my first suggestion right now, is creating a back up for this phone right away, so if you ever have to hard reset the phone, you still have a back up to restore, so you won't loose the OEM-Unlock.
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I think i could have been one of the luckiest person in this forum, but the phone has been hard reseted allready when i bought it. After that, at home, first thing i've done was trying to instal some apps/xaps using Tom xap's installer v 1.2 but no luck... Then i updated the rom to 8107. However, these powerfull programs are still here, even after a hard reset and updating.
After all, i think i'm a little lucky for still having them. Thank's for your help & advice.
My test device was the same way. I was able to get a new flashable image from my friend who gave me the phone that removed all of the Alps and brought it up to 7.10.7720.68 - it doesn't want to update past that though.
Is your volume too loud on level 1 as well?
Can you take a pic of the About screen with the More Information section open please?
ROM Chefs or even DFT might be interested in such Titan.
J101 said:
My test device was the same way. I was able to get a new flashable image from my friend who gave me the phone that removed all of the Alps and brought it up to 7.10.7720.68 - it doesn't want to update past that though.
Is your volume too loud on level 1 as well?
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I succesfully update to 8107 but sometimes i also think the sound is a bit too loud on level 1.
Why did you want to flash a new image and remove this apps?
Phil_123 said:
Can you take a pic of the About screen with the More Information section open please?
ROM Chefs or even DFT might be interested in such Titan.
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Of course, no problem. I've also discovered that my Titan is having something similar to magldr (wich i have on my HD2). It can be accessed in a easy way, power on + vol down. And just like my HD2 with magldr installed, the Titan doesn't charge when is power off! For now I will post a picture from About screen and a little later i'll post some pictures from the "Magldr" menu on Titan and the bootloader(?) screen if anyone is interested.
On your about screen under OS ver it says mojobld, This is the clue that it is a dev device, A normal Titan just states 7.10.8107.79 or similar, Also your frimware ver is different, I have 1600.2200.20104.401, Great to see you have the dev utilites cooked into the phones flash, Definitely a keeper! enjoy.
Wow you have a titan with a registry editor built in,, Lucky Lucky you.
hello
Your radio software and your soch charger are very different.
The name of :wp7_ship???????
the mojobld is a dev rom. (under 8107????, a hd7 or mozart rom with a 7716 from other with titan radio?)
so; please contact ANSAR and DFT and send a copy of your restore point zune.
perhaps them can cook a special rom from your device..
AndyFZ1S said:
On your about screen under OS ver it says mojobld, This is the clue that it is a dev device, A normal Titan just states 7.10.8107.79 or similar, Also your frimware ver is different, I have 1600.2200.20104.401, Great to see you have the dev utilites cooked into the phones flash, Definitely a keeper! enjoy.
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meandu229 said:
Wow you have a titan with a registry editor built in,, Lucky Lucky you.
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Unfortunately i can't do anything with the registry editor. Some registry are not found and the ones i find are not keeping the new values i set, don't know why.
However, as i said earlyer, i'll post some more pictures (more in the zip file) with the bootloader, they might be intresting for some.
you have a MASTER TITAN mode bootloader
that's best a ps3 and xbox in the same table
Yep. Same as mine. I wanted to use it as a normal user would - figures having a dev build might skew my perception of WP7. Honestly if I could fix the volume issue it would be worth keeping.
hello
i have news for you
i take a look in xda so, i keep this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456504
and the first page is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254384
So, you have the only titan with a custom rom
is a Mozart cook with radio firmaware mozart......
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so, now, we can begin up the kitchen
can you say us if you have any problem with phone? restarts, no sound, blcked, batterie time and another?
Thanks
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can you extract rom from your phone???
i'm very very interessed in your radio software version : i think is a pre-mango radio to Titan and no protection in it,
so......
dAV84 said:
hello
i have news for you
i take a look in xda so, i keep this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456504
and the first page is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254384
So, you have the only titan with a custom rom
is a Mozart cook with radio firmaware mozart......
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so, now, we can begin up the kitchen
can you say us if you have any problem with phone? restarts, no sound, blcked, batterie time and another?
Thanks
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can you extract rom from your phone???
i'm very very interessed in your radio software version : i think is a pre-mango radio to Titan and no protection in it,
so......
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Thanks for the info dAV84, i didn't know these things. I'll try to find some time for reading a little more about roms. Keeping in mind that i've updated the rom to 8107 via Zune, I am now a bit confuzed about how is posible to run a Mozart rom & radio on my Titan?
About the way the phone is working i can tell you that i don't have big problems: never had a restart, sound is ok (although it is a bit too loud on level 1 and sometimes not the best quality when calling), never blocked, no SOD... WiFi could be better, yes, but i've seen others having the same problem so i guess is kind of normal...
About extracting the rom i wish i could do it but I don't have the tools and don't know how to, although i would like that. Sorry if i'm not much of help but let me know if i can do more than this.
guys i have a question? what are the drawbacks of having a developer device/test device considering that HSPL is made possible for Titans and Radars?
hello,
I also soein titanium. gives you more pictures and can you tell me how the big boss and the ... can turn kit.
nice fredy
I picked mine up from an EE store yesterday and had a few issues when setting it up. The app store kept throwing up errors everytime I selected an app from a list, and my work exchange email just wouldn't work so I attempted a reset (Settings > About > Reset).
Bad move, now all I have is a Nokia logo on my screen. I've tried the 2 button and 3 button resets but have not seen anything on screen apart from the Nokia logo and the low battery screen.
That'll make it 3 x 900s and 1 x 920 I've returned this year. Probably time for me to give up on Nokia and just stick with Samsung.
Have you tried starting it up without the SIM in? May seem silly but my first EE SIM was faulty and it made my phone get stuck in a bootloop. One new SIM card later and it was perfectly fine again!
Only on XDA.
DavidC1980 said:
I picked mine up from an EE store yesterday and had a few issues when setting it up. The app store kept throwing up errors everytime I selected an app from a list, and my work exchange email just wouldn't work so I attempted a reset (Settings > About > Reset).
Bad move, now all I have is a Nokia logo on my screen. I've tried the 2 button and 3 button resets but have not seen anything on screen apart from the Nokia logo and the low battery screen.
That'll make it 3 x 900s and 1 x 920 I've returned this year. Probably time for me to give up on Nokia and just stick with Samsung.
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Just passing by this forum an saw this...
that's not normal my friend, for 900 or 920 devices, or perhaps you are unfortunately one of the most unlucky people alive. But statistically that suggest that you would have more luck staying with Nokia, the chances of there being 5 dud devices (assuming no user intervention helped them on their broken way) is astronomically high, changing to another brand resets that statistical analysis to zero, ergo if you are just an unlucky person you will more likely have problems with Samsung
Well all 3 of my 900's came from the same store and were white. I've always suspected that they were all from the same delivery and production batch so put that one down to bad luck. My L920 I think may well have been user error from when I did a hard reset, thinking that I couldn't connect to the app store because my phone needed a reset rather than because the store was down!
However, there are number of people posting in the WPCentral forum who have also killed their phone on a hard reset, so I tested my 2nd handset in the store before leaving and it survived a hard reset so I was happy.
I've now got a replacement and it's all good (apart from the horrid rattle when the vibration goes off for an alert).
My sister exchanged her L920 too as it was suffering from freezing everyday. Hopefully her 2nd handset won't be as troublesome.
I think wp8 is not stable because this is same problem in every other wp8 phone. Microsoft should do something quick before it's too late.
zolgi said:
I think wp8 is not stable because this is same problem in every other wp8 phone. Microsoft should do something quick before it's too late.
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Apparently the rebooting bug is already under investigation .. switching bands from 4G to 3G and/or using different APN settings seems to work for some.
dazza9075 said:
Just passing by this forum an saw this...
that's not normal my friend, for 900 or 920 devices, or perhaps you are unfortunately one of the most unlucky people alive. But statistically that suggest that you would have more luck staying with Nokia, the chances of there being 5 dud devices (assuming no user intervention helped them on their broken way) is astronomically high, changing to another brand resets that statistical analysis to zero, ergo if you are just an unlucky person you will more likely have problems with Samsung
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I know this may not be the right forum but I'll say this anyway. This here is a classic example of not understanding probabilities. Intuitively, this argument seems right - since you've already had 4 devices which had problems, the probability of having a 5th device with problem is very less.
However, in reality, the probability of getting a device with problems is not related to the past. So whichever device you choose, your probability of getting a dud device is same regardless of how many problems you've had in the past.
I know this doesn't help but I thought I'll take this opportunity to clear this up
My 2nd handset is now 6 days old and so far I've encountered the following
1) The loud vibrate rattle. I had this on my Lumia 900s so I'm really unimpressed Nokia haven't resolved this issue yet
2) Slightly crackly sound from the loudspeaker (not the earpiece) - this is a minor issue for me really
3) 1 random reset/lock up.
Honestly, it's issue #1 that actually bugs me as #2 is minor and #3 will get fixed in a software update at some point. 1 reboot in a week is fine.
SO my dilemma is whether I take the phone back again this weekend to exchange for one which doesn't rattle :S
I believe they all rattle because of the springs in the camera. You could get the 8x, it's arguably a better looking device with no rattles . However, it'll mean sacrificing Nokia software and that camera. 8x camera is very very good, but the 920 has the best cam of any phone (barring 808).
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Hello all this is my first post as I am a new nokia 920 yellow owner. I wanted to comment to show there is currently a solution to bricked devices due to factory reset bug. I have not tested it but, it should be avaliable to everyone considering the people that buy online and don't have access to quickly exchange a device. I hope this helps out some of you.
http://www.wpcentral.com/how-fix-bricked-920-after-reset
zolgi said:
I think wp8 is not stable because this is same problem in every other wp8 phone. Microsoft should do something quick before it's too late.
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I have my Lumia 920 for 2 weeks now, never had a single reboot or anything else. Runs very smoothly and does exactly what i want
andyl66 said:
I believe they all rattle because of the springs in the camera. You could get the 8x, it's arguably a better looking device with no rattles . However, it'll mean sacrificing Nokia software and that camera. 8x camera is very very good, but the 920 has the best cam of any phone (barring 808).
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Best camera, except for some reason Nokia's production camera firmware makes some things far too bright and edges in all conditions are not very sharp.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Best camera, except for some reason Nokia's production camera firmware makes some things far too bright and edges in all conditions are not very sharp.
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with regard to brightness, not even a £1000 DSLR can always get it right, experiment with white balance, artificial light can be a real problem to adjust for so quite often you need to set that manually, not saying that's your problem, but id strongly suggest you try changing those settings
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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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I've been using the 920 for 2.5 months now and I have none of your issues. I had the restart bug but it got fixed with portico update. also there is some dust under the FFC but i don't care because it is not on the lense and it don't use it anyway.
i know about black screen and factory reset bug but i read for the 1st time that there should be major problems with the SIM card or the hardware buttons.
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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
Son Loves it!!
Heelfan71 said:
Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
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My son has had the 920 since it came out...Other than *****ing about the lack of the most popular apps (instagram, temple run, Jetpack Joyride...etc) the phone has been nothing but flawless. He will never give it up because he is an xbox junkie lol
i've had it for almost 2 months now..
only issue i've had is the crashing (normally every couple of days), since updating seems ok so far...I've flashed a few 'roms' to it, EE branded and normal
I thought the screen going blank in calls was supposed to happen? Like to save power? last couple of phones i've had turn the screen off when you put it to your head?
I'll be honest, i'm a little disapointed in windows phone 8, after coming from 7 with no crashes for a year (apart from once when i started messing with the registry) I found windows phone 8 quite shocking, coming from android/windows mobile i'd say its not to bad, but in someways it seems a downgrade. But so far no crashes with the latest update, and i'm hoping it stays that way, but honestly, I have a feeling your issues are isolated.
Also had the chance to use the new nexus 4 the other day, if theres a cover up going on, i'd say its those who say android is smooth and responsive....
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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I agree, since the last update I haven't had very many problems at all. And since I haven't been having issues I haven't been coming to the forums as much. I just come in every once in a while now to see if there's anything new. I'm not constantly hounding for an answer to my problems on a daily basis since I don't have problems. It's my guess that other people who have perfectly working phones would have like minds as me... or just not visit the forums at all.
No bricking during factory reset (had to do it once and I'm not going to do it again just to prove a point).
Battery life is awesome.
Hardware buttons are working fine.
Blank screen during calls isn't an issue for me since the proximity sensor works almost all the time, I think.... at least, it hasn't been a big enough concern for me that I actually notice it.... guess I should keep track of it.
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Pre-portico
No stability issues, but craptastic daylight camera and bluetooth connectivity issues
Portico:
Unstable. Reboots at least twice a day.
Good daylight camera
Good bluetooth connectivity.
Think people have to make a choice about the portico.
unstable and functional or stable and unfunctional.
Lemark said:
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
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This is also the main thing I'm missing, coming from Nokia N8 the situations was really a great app...
I think Nokia lumia phones in general have a lot of issues, as does Windows Phone. It's just there are so few users even if there was a problem, it would seem isolated. Microsoft's share in the smartphone market didn't even budge at all in 2012. WP users are not power users so they just run back to the store to get an exchange. Even the lumia 920 forum at wpcentral.com is slow as molasses. 90% of the posts are very shallow anyway. Most don't even know what screen size their phone is or what processor its running. the camera is just AMAZING and the phone is PERFECT, over and over again. Of course, this forum isn't any better. The only difference being the plethora of unlock threads, because xda is international.
Your description of WP users is fairly accurate & the market segment MS is going after. The enthusiast market is small & even on Android accounts for a very small % of sales. The easiest way to solve an issue is by exchanging the phone, if you have that option available to you. A lot of issues people are having are either caused by defective hardware or a bad flash IMO, which is an issue on any of the platforms.
Do people not expect bugs and hiccups at launch for these kinds of devices?
It happens. And it's not as bad as you perceive; it's not a conspiracy.
AW: The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......
If ms allows developers create store accounts for free I bet there would be more apps on store.,.
I get what you guys are saying, but phone busting issues like that black screen on calls and bricking on hard resets shouldn't be common enough to have a thread full of people experiencing them.
If anyone knows of any way to get the phone to read SIM cards again, I'd like your help. I still miss using my lumia 920 :'(
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I have experianced just about every issue in this thread. I have users of the 920 I support for other stuff and I see how they basically ignore them as they did on their Blackberry or iPhone. I had the brick issue... news flash as I posted in another thread, it is not bricked!!! use the Nokia Care Suite, gets you going no problem. During my day I may deal with just about every phone they see at an AT&T store (Tmobile, Sprint,or Verizon for that matter)... they all have issues. Have you ever seen an iPhone user change their password on their laptop and not update the iPhone? Lets say you need to get to something before updating that password, like they changed the server setting trying to update it... go ahead try it. Drop calls, Steve Jobs had to properly instruct dumb iPhone users how to hold an iPhone. Andriod, perfect????? WTF are serious?? And becuase of that piece of software, it does not matter what hardware you are talking about.
My phone is limited compared to Andriod, I can agree with that.... but I can do more with fewer Apps and I like that. The 920 has had some hiccups along the way, but the hardware I have right now is as solid as any other phone out there, actually physically a tougher phone then any other top tier phone.
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they all have issues.
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This is exactly what I was trying to get at. These sorts of issues and threads are everywhere for many high profile smartphone launches, especially lately with this insane obsession with HW spec wars.
I've seen much worse, many times, you will not buy a high end smartphone at launch these days without having some sort of worry that there will be a game-breaking bug or defect.
WP 8 for 3 months:
NO ISSUES
POWER USER (i had portico when the first roms were available on navi)
my question is, are all these faulty devices on ATT or another crap american service , cause i think this may be your problem, ive had to work on vodaphone orange tmobile and ee 920's and 820's and i can say with pride that the only issue people have is the lack of popular apps., there is no conspiracy. why the eff are you people needing to hard reset anyway wtf are you doing to your phones?
I have to admit I've been having freezing issues regularly, often when it's just sat on my desk or in my pocket, and almost every night while on USB charge. I've also noticed on the odd occasion a reboot, but only because of my SIM being PIN locked.
Mine was a German Vodafone one, which I flashed on day 1 to the CV_GB ROM, then again to CV_GB Portico ROM. Maybe I'll try a different one, as I've heard the EE one has fewer issues.
I thought I bought the 4G version of the phone... but I think I royally screwed up and got the 3G version.. can you guys confirm my suspicions? If so, I will have to downgrade my data package... ****..
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I thought I bought the 4G version of the phone... but I think I royally screwed up and got the 3G version.. can you guys confirm my suspicions? If so, I will have to downgrade my data package... ****..
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Putting it bluntly... Yes you stuffed up. The C6802 is the 3G version... :crying:
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Yes, you have screwed up.. That model # is the HSPA version.. No way to have it replaced??? I think you have just did business with a douche.. sadly..
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Yes, you have screwed up.. That model # is the HSPA version.. No way to have it replaced??? I think you have just did business with a douche.. sadly..
Ouch, that hurts.
On the bright side though, you did get a working Ultra and (literally) not a brick , and you'll still get a respectable download speed at 40 Mbit/sec (depending on your location and carrier). On top of that, all the Ultra models are the same regardless of the radio (which isn't something we see every day), so you can still flash everything we flash. It could've been so much worse. "Oh, you bought the 3G version of it? That one isn't that popular, so too bad man, too bad." But that's not the case here, mate!
Yes, I'm trying to cheer you up
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Ouch, that hurts.
On the bright side though, you did get a working Ultra and (literally) not a brick , and you'll still get a respectable download speed at 40 Mbit/sec (depending on your location and carrier). On top of that, all the Ultra models are the same regardless of the radio (which isn't something we see every day), so you can still flash everything we flash. It could've been so much worse. "Oh, you bought the 3G version of it? That one isn't that popular, so too bad man, too bad." But that's not the case here, mate!
Yes, I'm trying to cheer you up
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Yup.. just as I suspected. I guess for a moment there i was simply hoping i had sudden onslaught dyslexia... but like Lord said, its not a total loss.
It's still a great phone (apart from the speaker and camera; no big deal for me), and I love it. My friends call it the portable TV... 3G+ is "comparable" to 4G apparently, AND my local telecoms are still in the process of upgrading anyway... it will be 9 months or so before we got nationwide 4G coverage. By then, the Z1 Ultra will be out! Not to mention the gorgeous Sony Viao Tap 11.
I might even buy Honami, that's how much I love Sony right now. Seriously good year for them.
Thanks for cheering me up.