Hey guys,
I flashed the kernel but I am not well versed with adb to flash the kernel modules - could someone guide me? I am specifically looking forward for the NTFS and controller support.
Thanks a lot guys.
jackie_jagger said:
Hey guys,
I flashed the kernel but I am not well versed with adb to flash the kernel modules - could someone guide me? I am specifically looking forward for the NTFS and controller support.
Thanks a lot guys.
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*bump* anyone?
I hate to reply without an answer but I dont know. I have seen people ask him and he says instructions are in the post, but they are over my head. I've never asked for clarification because I assume the idea is that "if you can't understand my instructions, then you shouldn't be doing it".
? And I dont want to pester the guy who's worked his arse off to give the community a rockin kernel
/GL
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I hate to reply without an answer but I dont know. I have seen people ask him and he says instructions are in the post, but they are over my head. I've never asked for clarification because I assume the idea is that "if you can't understand my instructions, then you shouldn't be doing it".
? And I dont want to pester the guy who's worked his arse off to give the community a rockin kernel
/GL
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Exactly the same thing happened with me :/ ! I really want the NTFS and XBOX 360 controller capability !
I have no idea what to do with those adb codes I wish there was something noob proof !
Hi,
I use the following quick method. Using Root Explorer (or something similar) and the Terminal app from the Market, move the .ko files to /data/local/modules and then in Terminal issue the following commands:
su
insmod /data/local/modules/xxxx.ko
where xxxx is what .ko module you've chosen and repeat the insmod for each module.
That should be it.
Cheers,
morkli
morkli said:
Hi,
I use the following quick method. Using Root Explorer (or something similar) and the Terminal app from the Market, move the .ko files to /data/local/modules and then in Terminal issue the following commands:
su
insmod /data/local/modules/xxxx.ko
where xxxx is what .ko module you've chosen and repeat the insmod for each module.
That should be it.
Cheers,
morkli
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Exactly this. Also, I can't remember for sure, but you may need to repeat the Terminal commands each time you reboot. I don't think so though.
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klub242 said:
Exactly this. Also, I can't remember for sure, but you may need to repeat the Terminal commands each time you reboot. I don't think so though.
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I've not had to repeat these commands after a rebbot. The change sticks.
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I've not had to repeat these commands after a rebbot. The change sticks.
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I just noticed that too, you're right. I sure thought I read that you had to, but I must be either getting my devices mixed up or else going a little crazy.
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Sorry to dig up an old thread, I thought it made more sense than posting a new one. I'm trying to install the module for PS3 controller. Does anyone know which one it is? For that matter, is there any list that explains what all of the modules Pershoot made available are?
Thanks!
slack04 said:
Sorry to dig up an old thread, I thought it made more sense than posting a new one. I'm trying to install the module for PS3 controller. Does anyone know which one it is? For that matter, is there any list that explains what all of the modules Pershoot made available are?
Thanks!
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You'll be wanting lib\modules\2.6.36.4-cyanogenmod+\kernel\drivers\hid\hid-sony.ko
I like to understand the other files too...
slack04 said:
Sorry to dig up an old thread, I thought it made more sense than posting a new one. I'm trying to install the module for PS3 controller. Does anyone know which one it is? For that matter, is there any list that explains what all of the modules Pershoot made available are?
Thanks!
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I asked this question too here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1303384
But I am new and not sure my question was understood... don't need help with the actual installation... just want to understand the list of modules...looks like 4 being described in the change log...but there are about 16 .ko files... not exactly a 1 21 relationship, so I assume the other files don't even work (work in progress maybe) as there no mention of their extra functionality. For example, I extract lib-2.6.36.4/lib/modules and there is a dhd.ko file at the root of the directory. I have no idea what its for, nor any of the files in at the root of /2.6.36.4-cyanogenmod+. Those are not .ko files. Is one of them perhaps a Unix file type that is equivalent to a man page or a read me file that I can open and discusses the use of the content in /kernel? If I don't need to know what these are, and they are not to be moved to the tab for installation....why include them at all? Why not just zip up the 4/5 .ko files? My curiosity is going to get me cussed out.....lol. I've read the general and Q&A forums from the last 60 days and not found a lot on this... not much in the dev forums either besides the instructions on how to install a module file (.ko) Thanks gang!
lowpost99 said:
I asked this question too here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1303384
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I'm going to be brutally honest, and say the best person to ask is the packager, AKA pershoot. Personally, the majority of what I've needed out of the .tar.gz has been pretty self-explanatory - the stuff that isn't obvious I've left alone and not had any difficulties.
Curiousity in these situations is definitely a good thing, and not to be frowned upon on a developer's forum; but I think the only person who can answer the exact whys and wherefores is pershoot. in this case.
Thanks friend, I've got 22 years in IT as sys admin/service delivery co-ordinator/infrastructure owner, and those are just the checks that go into the boxes. I could not "load this into production" with the info provided for the change. I can't post in pershoot forum yet... so I thought Q &A might do the trick, but couple more posts and I'll will take your advice.
I don't know how well you know your way around Android, but answering a couple of questions if you can is a good way to get enough to ask in the dev forum whilst helping others.
pershoot is on the droid-basement blog which might have a email address if getting a direct response is really important to your deployment strategy. With your years of experience, I'm not advocating such a outright tactic, but he is pretty forthcoming as far as I've seen. Otherwise, helping and waiting out to get on the dev forum will be your best bet.
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I don't know how well you know your way around Android, but answering a couple of questions if you can is a good way to get enough to ask in the dev forum whilst helping others.
pershoot is on the droid-basement blog which might have a email address if getting a direct response is really important to your deployment strategy. With your years of experience, I'm not advocating such a outright tactic, but he is pretty forthcoming as far as I've seen. Otherwise, helping and waiting out to get on the dev forum will be your best bet.
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Thanks your advice is well taken....
I couldnt find my way out, too. This module thing is realy complicated, this functions must be in kernel!s code.(maybe its not possible,I really dont know)
and what about cif manager, How can we use this modules with it.
Thanks!
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IF THIS POST CAN BE DELETED, PLEASE DO! I ACCIDENTAL POSTED THIS AGAIN BUT IT WAS IN THE STICKY SECTION. PEOPLE ARE OUT RAGED OVER IT BUT I DO APOLOGIZE. WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?
DISREGARD THE BELOW. IT'S A DOUBLE.
Hi, I am trying to use Abd to do the stalling fix that Modaco Paul Obrien Provided, however (if im not mistaken) there arent any steps to making adb recognize your phone.
what should we press before doing this?
Enter the following commands in adb on your PC with your device attached (rooted, with USB debugging enabled):
CODE
adb shell
su
cp -rp /data/data /dbdata
mv /data/data /data/data.bak
ln -s /dbdata/data /data/data
reboot
I have showing in command promp before doing anything:
C:\Users\Eric>
Please someone get back to me. if this was posted, I aplogize.. you can delete it (if possibly) after im helped hopefully. I wonder why instructions don't clearly state the steps to avoid questions. There are 1 million threads and hard to search.
Fyi I've installed all the drivers and things for my device. I just need to know the next steps.
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use this thread for your vibrant... this works like a charm....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739647
this will move your data to the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition... this is what I am using now and it flies... hope this helps
if you dont want to do it that way, you are missing the script to mount as rw... dont know it off the top of my head...
junkdruggler said:
use this thread for your vibrant... this works like a charm....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739647
this will move your data to the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition... this is what I am using now and it flies... hope this helps
if you dont want to do it that way, you are missing the script to mount as rw... dont know it off the top of my head...
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Hey thanks for replying. My sd card has avatar on it. I don't want to partition it and lose it.. I mean I could but the last time I partitioned the sd, my phone was blank. Maybe that's because when I flashed clockworks recovery it sent the backedup Rom to my sd car and not the internal memory?
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Dont take this the wrong way, but what you are trying is extremely experimental, and I would not recommend it to you. You will end up frustrated later waiting for more advice, as you dont seem to have any experience w/ ADB. Maybe research ADB a bit, play around w/ it, and then possibly try this again.
I dont mean to discourage you, but this type of mod/hack is somewhat advanced, and may require some troubleshooting to get it working properly. You should also know EXACTLY how to undo what you are attempting to do before you go through with it, which is generally a good idea for these type of mods, as you may undo it soon
Thanks a lot. And u right. I'm about to unroot and wait for 2.2 because these developers know there are new people to this and it wouldnt hurt to go into a little more detail. I used Amonras Recovery method on my nexus and didn't have to go through all this download moad stuff and Odin etc. Its not that easy when people get annoyed by questions lol but thanks a lot though.
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Search ADB for dummies on the forum, there are a few threads that will be very helpful. They'll give you a general idea of what you're doing with ADB. Sorry, but we're not here to spoon feed you. If you want to mod the phone, learn how to do it.
tissimo said:
Search ADB for dummies on the forum, there are a few threads that will be very helpful. They'll give you a general idea of what you're doing with ADB. Sorry, but we're not here to spoon feed you. If you want to mod the phone, learn how to do it.
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this is exactly why people are discouraged and lost because of comments like this. thanks anyhow. im not going to worry about it right now because clearly people are too lazy to help. I just said there's a thousand forums and it's not easy to single out which ones are the right ones. Please get a senior member or someone to delete this thread. No need for it now. I'll wait for 2.2
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this is exactly why people are discouraged and lost because of comments like this. thanks anyhow. im not going to worry about it right now because clearly people are too lazy to help. I just said there's a thousand forums and it's not easy to single out which ones are the right ones. Please get a senior member or someone to delete this thread. No need for it now. I'll wait for 2.2
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If you're to lazy to do a simple search and learn how to set up adb and how to in put in simple provided commands then you're a lost cause. Sorry to be so blunt, don't cry to hard about it.
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tissimo said:
Search ADB for dummies on the forum, there are a few threads that will be very helpful. They'll give you a general idea of what you're doing with ADB. Sorry, but we're not here to spoon feed you. If you want to mod the phone, learn how to do it.
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tissimo said:
If you're to lazy to do a simple search and learn how to set up adb and how to in put in simple provided commands then you're a lost cause. Sorry to be so blunt, don't cry to hard about it.
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be gone. i don't even know why you are still in here and not helping. let alone talking to me. what's your point? ignorant peeps on here.
stepinmyworld said:
this is exactly why people are discouraged and lost because of comments like this. thanks anyhow. im not going to worry about it right now because clearly people are too lazy to help. I just said there's a thousand forums and it's not easy to single out which ones are the right ones. Please get a senior member or someone to delete this thread. No need for it now. I'll wait for 2.2
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To be fair, this is the development forum. It's for developers to talk to other developers. We are generally willing to help people out, but do try to make sure you know the basics as much of what we do here is very experimental, and it may well not work right for everyone. As such, it's not really for general consumption. When we think our stuff is ready, we will make a thread in the general forum.
As for partitioning, just copy avatar somewhere else first. Or get a new card to experiment with. They are cheap and the stock one is small and slow.
Note that the comments thing is a double edged sword, we have lost developers to posts like yours. Keep in mind that people are giving their free time to give the community these roms, hacks, and apps, for free. They don't owe you or anyone else anything.
ttabbal said:
To be fair, this is the development forum. It's for developers to talk to other developers. We are generally willing to help people out, but do try to make sure you know the basics as much of what we do here is very experimental, and it may well not work right for everyone. As such, it's not really for general consumption. When we think our stuff is ready, we will make a thread in the general forum.
As for partitioning, just copy avatar somewhere else first. Or get a new card to experiment with. They are cheap and the stock one is small and slow.
Note that the comments thing is a double edged sword, we have lost developers to posts like yours. Keep in mind that people are giving their free time to give the community these roms, hacks, and apps, for free. They don't owe you or anyone else anything.
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Yeah thanks. But if I'm a donator to people making these roms, how are we not owed anything? I do donate and I know the basics. I have everything installed but I am missing a simply command in which someone could provide for me if the knew. But this is my past post. Dont want to take up any more space. I understand this is the dev section.
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As I stated earlier, we are not telling you how to do it EXACTLY because we do not recommend this for you. You are free to go research and do it anyways, but you've been warned. There will be builds out soon that make everything much easier, but until then, I recommend waiting...
Just a clarification....donations are made to devs (and anyone) without any consideration of something in return.
for example, I sent a donation to @wesgarner the moment he started considering working on CM6 for the vibrant. I am not "owed" anything from him, and he can use the donation as he wishes, although I hope he used it towards something android related.
There is a huge difference between what you said regarding donations, and how I put it. I'm sure some developers get annoyed when people expect things after donating. Its not a purchase, its a donation to a cause
Did you guys know that NO FLAMING is an XDA rule??
@OP First you should make sure you've installed the android sdk properly by visiting developers.android.com
Before you write any command in a CMD window you should specify where your android sdk is by writing
> cd C:\android-sdk_r06-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools (just using this SDK as an example, you may be using the 2.1 SDK)
You can also read up on ADB by visiting this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
DAKIDD236 said:
Did you guys know that NO FLAMING is an XDA rule??
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While you are of course welcome to disagree, I thought the thread had been quite civil. I'm out though, the op said they want to wait a bit.
This might come in handy:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
The thing most people miss is they don't add the path to the sdk so the adb command only works from the tools directory. To make it work everywhere, you need to: Right-click on My Computer, and select Properties. Under the Advanced tab, hit the Environment Variables button, and in the dialog that comes up, double-click on Path (under System Variables). At the end of the PATH, make sure there is a semicolon separating the last entry from the one you are about to type, which will be the location of the android sdk tools directory (for me it's C:\android-sdk-windows\tools). Once that's in your PATH, click ok, ok, then apply, reboot and you can
Code:
adb shell
from any directory. Of course, anyone without at least a little experience with command-line interfaces will be at a disadvantage; there's definitely a learning curve.
Ok, here is my super quick summary but you would get better help in the general forum. Most of the answers are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728809
These are the instructions if you are in windows 7, it's probably the same for whatever version you're on.
If you have installed ADB correctly and the samsung drivers you should have the files located somewhere like C:\android-sdk-windows. You should also have usb debugging enabled on the phone (settings->applications->development) and the phone plugged in. Open the tools folder since that's where the ADB executable is. In that folder hold down shift and right click on a white part of the screen between files. You should see "Open Command Window Here". If not, click the start button and select run. Type CMD and press enter. In the command prompt type "cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools" and press enter. Fill that in with whatever your path is. When you are in the correct folder you can now run adb commands in the command prompt. To test that your device is ready to work with ADB and everything is installed correctly just type "adb devices" and you should see some numbers and letters. If you don't see it list your device, something isn't setup correctly.
stepinmyworld said:
Yeah thanks. But if I'm a donator to people making these roms, how are we not owed anything? I do donate and I know the basics. I have everything installed but I am missing a simply command in which someone could provide for me if the knew. But this is my past post. Dont want to take up any more space. I understand this is the dev section.
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This is not a flame post, it's an explanation post.
The good people of these forums have been giving you resources to find your answers.
If you're going to step into this world, it requires a certain level of due diligence.
The thing is, they are helping you just like you asked, just not the way you expected. The name of the forum is Vibrant Android Development, not Vibrant Android Support.
davbran said:
This is not a flame post, it's an explanation post.
The good people of these forums have been giving you resources to find your answers.
If you're going to step into this world, it requires a certain level of due diligence.
The thing is, they are helping you just like you asked, just not the way you expected. The name of the forum is Vibrant Android Development, not Vibrant Android Support.
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Very well said. One quick note, I think the op should look up the definition of the word donate in the dictionary. If you donate to the make a wish foundation does this entitle you to a wish?
Yes... Yes it does. Maybe even two wishes!
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Ok guys so with a ton of reading and researching here's a little thing I was trying to figure out for awhile and finally did it so Im going to share a little guide. Now non of this is mine, I just follow instructions well
With all the Gingerbread talk/themes I haven't seen anyone here theme the stock MT4G Swype. I'm on CM7 Nightlies but I believe it should also work with stock MT4G sense since I pulled it from there.
Now before we begin I take no responsibility if this bricks your phone or make it burst in flames. This guide does need a know how to adb and have jdk and jre installed properly to sign the apk.
First we need the stock swype:
-I followed this guide from Marine6680
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959192&highlight=swype
Now we need the Gingerbread Theme for Swype:
-I got the files from Marurban
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930306
-The file we need is the 2.6 v0.3 WVGA without Mic
Marurban's guide was kinda confusing and that was where I was having a little trouble. So then I found stone_ship's guide and helped me a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955721
I simply copied just all the keyboard pngs and left glow and wcw png stock. I still need to learn how to change the font color on the popup
After you have signed your themed swype.apk use Marine6680's guide to install it back to your phone. If your having trouble with this I will try with the best of my ability to help but no promises Enjoy!
Also Please thank Marine6600, Marurban and stone_ship for their guides to make this possible.
FYI, you do relize that if you are just replacing the images as you did, that it can be done in about 10 seconds using 7zip. You dont need to resign the zip, no Apk Manager or anything like that. And this isnt really a "Guide" but just a post with links to guides from other people. If you would like a "Guide on image replacement using 7zip" I will be happy to help.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
FYI, you do relize that if you are just replacing the images as you did, that it can be done in about 10 seconds using 7zip. You dont need to resign the zip, no Apk Manager or anything like that. And this isnt really a "Guide" but just a post with links to guides from other people. If you would like a "Guide on image replacement using 7zip" I will be happy to help.
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Did you even read the OP? It clearly says he didn't do anything as he took it from other peoples stuff, it even has name of the people on it. I guess he just found it confusing from original doc so he wrote his own but IDK why he posted here.
BlackSHELF said:
Did you even read the OP? It clearly says he didn't do anything as he took it from other peoples stuff, it even has name of the people on it. I guess he just found it confusing from original doc so he wrote his own but IDK why he posted here.
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No I didnt read the OP, I just posted blindly. WTF kind of stupid comment is that?
When someone makes a thread with "Guide Theme" in the title, I kinda EXPECT A GUIDE. Not links to guides. Second I am in no way trying to flame this guy (like you tried to do to me) but let him know that there is much easier ways to achieve what he has done. I also even offered to help him make a simple GUIDE for doing this.
And whats up with your post? And I quote:
BlackSHELF said:
It clearly says he didn't do anything as he took it from other peoples stuff, it even has name of the people on it.
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And then in the very next sentence you state, and I quote:
BlackSHELF said:
I guess he just found it confusing from original doc so he wrote his own but IDK why he posted here.
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He wrote his own what? GUIDE?
My point with that is it is easy to pick apart someones post huh.
I mean, I dont even know why you posted in this thread. Your comment added absolutly no help to the thread and only tried to flame me.
I will now end this rant before I say something I shouldnt
And your comment added so much help, maybe you should write another EZ guide for it. No one flamed you as you simply try to bash the guy without clearly comprehending what he did. No one cares what you expected thats like you claiming to write guides from using other peoples and not giving them credit for it.
Whoa... Sorry for this guys all I wanted to do was share what I found out myself cause I wanted to theme my swype to gingerbread and didn't know how. So instead of asking I just read up and searched and didn't come up with anything simple. My bad for thinking it might help people.
Mod can you lock or delete this please
crxtasi said:
Whoa... Sorry for this guys all I wanted to do was share what I found out myself cause I wanted to theme my swype to gingerbread and didn't know how. So instead of asking I just read up and searched and didn't come up with anything simple. My bad for thinking it might help people.
Mod can you lock or delete this please
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Don't worry about it the guy is a troll and thief its just funny as he steal other peoples stuff then claim he writes them but when you did something and even properly named people where you got it from he try to bash you. As I said "I guess he just found it confusing from original doc so he wrote his own but IDK why he posted here." You don't need to apologize you did what you thought would help others in good intention, that is what matters regardless of the trolling from hypocrites. We are here to help others.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
First let me apologize for your mucking up your thread. My original post was only meant to offer help to you and somehow it has turned into this.
There is no reason to lock or delete this thread, you did nothing wrong. As a matter of fact you did a great job of researching and figuring out how to do what you wanted to do. I was only offering help to make this more of a guide for what you did and help show you a easier way of achieving it, so you could in turn help people easier. Setting up APK manager and the other things you metioned can be time consuming, especially if you aren't familiar with how to do it.
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No problem lets just start a new and please tell me how an easier way can be done. cause all the things I've read about theming swype was thru either metamorph (I'm still reading up on how to make one) and thru Ninjamorph which force closes on my swype. I never ran into 7zip like you mentioned. I usually just read and try to figure things out myself so please do explain
Im always up to new challenges and now knowing how apk manager sorta works I can deep dive on what I might or might not be capable of doing. its really an interesting program
It'd be nice to have something like this for the current beta version. I can't give up my voice-input button. No way.
Part Four said:
It'd be nice to have something like this for the current beta version. I can't give up my voice-input button. No way.
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Well you can still do it, just use the guide and download Marurban's gingerbread theme with the mic on it.
Seems like I missed the party...any how...what's the easiest way to get gingerbread Swype? I don't have my stock mt4g Swype anymore ...hehe!
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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See these threads for other programs people feel are essential:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366024
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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Hi, I am glad you took the leap to root your Nook Tablet, it is a wonderful device that can do a lot with app side loading and root enable.
However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A. There are the Nook Tablet General and Nook Tablet Themes and Apps forums that are setup for general Q&A purposes, please post in those forum with your question instead, you will get more helpful information and user support from those 2 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398
HMG10 said:
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
Perhaps a mod can move this to the proper forum.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366386
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However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
In the meantime, many thanks to folks who have provided input thus far, I really appreciate it.
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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blackbird 80 said:
Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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Thanks allot! Works perfect for me.
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150pilot said:
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Very nice. Which version of Crackle did you install? I found an apk and installed but kept getting a "not compatible with your device" message.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
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Thread moved to general
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Thanks for post - helped me out a bit when I customized my tablet
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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+1 Totally spot on. Most people *don't* need to root. If it's confusing, don't do it! Install whatever applications you want from an SD card - the majority *will work.* You bought a media device so have fun with it! The ones that don't work tend to be other tools to help you manage rooted devices, heh (and keyboards, bah!). The default for most apps isn't too bad though on this device (including keyboard).
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Ever try running zergRush on a device rooted with zergRush, just to get adb running under root?
You can't, you have to su to do it. At least I can't on my nook.
Usually rooted devices are more secure imho ;-) If they were secure to begin with then they couldn't be rooted, odds are rooting plugs at least one security hole. A good rootkit will plug it's own exploit anyhow.
Of course that depends on the user not to blindly click yes whenever it asks for superuser permission, but the requirement of having rooted your device to begin which likely weeds a bit of that out....maybe...
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it.
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I find this to be a rather closed minded statement. It's like telling someone they shouldn't ever try to fix their own car. This is how we LEARN things. Asking questions, taking chances. Granted there's a learning curve and granted you take risks when you root your tablet, but the fact remains that if you don't take risks, you gain nothing. And I think the "you don't know what you're doing so don't even try" attitude is pointless and slightly offensive.
The idea is to LEARN and GROW and gain insight into the inner workings of the android system. Not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others, so we can pass that knowledge along. If the only people allowed access to that info are the people that already have it- this little circle of friends is going to die out rather quickly.
Instead of assuming people are too stupid to learn how and why to root, why not lend a helping hand to those seeking knowledge and guidance?
Just something to consider.
Hi, is it possible do port ubuntu on our device?
Sorry for my english and thanks for answers.
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Canonical's eventual objective is to have the Ubuntu mobile OS on many more devices than the Nexus line by Google. So, to answer your question, it should be possible to port Ubuntu mobile to the Streak, however it may be some time before we see it happen.
Oh, and your English is perfectly fine and understandable. In fact, it's a lot better than what you see from some native speakers!
if.........
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Canonical's eventual objective is to have the Ubuntu mobile OS on many more devices than the Nexus line by Google. So, to answer your question, it should be possible to port Ubuntu mobile to the Streak, however it may be some time before we see it happen.
Oh, and your English is perfectly fine and understandable. In fact, it's a lot better than what you see from some native speakers!
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If it needs cm10 to run it I doubt it'll happen lol
Not really. I believe the Streak can run Jellybean, but the core issue will always be drivers. Without them, nothing is going to happen.
I'd love to see that happen... Also be curios to see how it runs on a sort of dated phone... The Ubuntu Touch Message center is tasty looking! LoL! Wished we could find something like that for Android...
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If it needs cm10 to run it I doubt it'll happen lol
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It needs CM10.1 to run and highly doubt that it will ever run on DS5.
@Op, Why have you posted a general topic in dev section? Don't spam this section, if anyone can , he will definately post here, you don't need to ask that it can happen or not. Someone please report this thread.
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Someone please report this thread.
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This makes no sense. You put out a call for someone to report the thread when you could do it yourself?
To the naysayers, the Streak can run ICS. If it isn't going to handle Jellybean, it will be both because of a lack of drivers as well as the possibility of the Streak's system partition being too small to accept Jellybean.
So, we need to find out the size of the system partition, by typing the following commands into a command prompt with the Streak connected to a PC:
adb shell
su
busybox df -h
If the system partition is less than approximately 350MB then Jellybean will not run on the Streak without modifications.
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This makes no sense. You put out a call for someone to report the thread when you could do it yourself?
To the naysayers, the Streak can run ICS. If it isn't going to handle Jellybean, it will be both because of a lack of drivers as well as the possibility of the Streak's system partition being too small to accept Jellybean.
So, we need to find out the size of the system partition, by typing the following commands into a command prompt with the Streak connected to a PC:
adb shell
su
busybox df -h
If the system partition is less than approximately 350MB then Jellybean will not run on the Streak without modifications.
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the system partition is 260m ,but it doesn't matter
i had made new partitions in innersd0 , and installed the 2nd os in the new partitions
the size of new partitions could be modified easily
Then that eliminates the minor issue, leaving drivers as the lone obstacle to getting Ubuntu on the Streak. This is the same obstacle that prevents us from getting ICS working properly on the Streak, and until there is some traction in an ICS port, Ubuntu is not going to happen.
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This makes no sense. You put out a call for someone to report the thread when you could do it yourself?
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You are really one of your kind!
Can't you understand that i was asking someone to do it because i was online through my phone and fyi you can report a thread through xda's app ..
If you want to continue this general discussion, open up a thread in general section and continue your talking there, this section is for development and not for general discussions . A guy spammed this section and you are supporting him. Reported!
I don't use the XDA app, but whether I do or not has no bearing on the ease of reporting a post. However I neither consider his post to be spam nor do I believe it inappropriate for this subforum. I suspect no one else in this thread, except you, cares one way or another.
Since you reported me, I don't have to tell you to go ahead and waste your energy, do I.
What I can't understand, is why this Question is in Development.
Com'on people, read the rules before you sign on.
Development is for "Works", like Roms, Kernels, Roots, Hacks and such. To post in the Dev section, you better be attaching something worthwhile One could say "Hey, I heard OX10 can be ported to...". If you don't have some code.... see the following....
Otherwise, it gets moved to Q & A or General...
Thread moved.
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A rhetorical question you ask. This is only speculation, but perhaps the OP thought to spur such development by asking the question. That's why I personally didn't have an issue with the OP posting the thread in development. But, my opinion on the appropriateness of the thread's location is irrelevant.
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A rhetorical question you ask. This is only speculation, but perhaps the OP thought to spur such development by asking the question. That's why I personally didn't have an issue with the OP posting the thread in development. But, my opinion on the appropriateness of the thread's location is irrelevant.
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Why don't you understand that questions don't belong in development section?
There are several OS out there, so should we create a new thread for every OS asking " Can this OS be ported to DS 5 ?"
GENERAL discussion are not for development section!
There's a general section for that!
If someone gets something working on DS5, he/she will definately post it here(XDA), a question will not make that OS.
We all know that we hardly have a working ICS(4.0.4), so it's impossible to get ubuntu working on DS5 since its based on CM10.1 ( 4.2.2) , the bitter truth.
You are quite an experienced member and still you are supporting a spam thread instead of helping in cleaning the dev section. This is my last post on this thread and even after this if you don't understand then can't help with it.
BTW thanks Moscow desire!
Actually Ubuntu Touch is based off of Android 4.1.2
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Which still leads to the issue of drivers. Without drivers, any discussion of porting Ubuntu Touch is nothing more than wishful thinking. This device still doesn't have a properly working ICS port because there are no driver sources to be able to create proper drivers.
At this point, I'm bowing out of this discussion. I'm starting to repeat myself.
giveen said:
Actually Ubuntu Touch is based off of Android 4.1.2
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After seeing comments like this , i got to post here again!
Whoaa who told you this ?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
Read this ..
Get your facts right and then comment.
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After seeing comments like this , i got to post here again!
Whoaa who told you this ?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
Read this ..
Get your facts right and then comment.
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My apologies, I looked at my terminal wrong.
and here is why I can post here.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/streak7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173045
giveen said:
My apologies, I looked at my terminal wrong.
and here is why I can post here.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/streak7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173045
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No probs mate and I never said you can't post here, I was so irritated by the other guy that I answered in that manner. My apologies if I sounded rude.
Thats alright,
I have a big project about Android. So you know noobs can't use ADB and Fastboot well. I have an idea for this; I'll make a custom file extension. That is an script. That will be a custom script. So how can I make my own scripting language ? And how can I export a file format from scripting language ? For example; Perl' s file format is .pl and Shell' s is .sh and so on...
Imagine I made an scripting language. But how can I make a program for running that ?
Go on, my idea is; user will install executer program. And he/she can run special scripts with that. So rooting, bootloader unlocking will be pretty easy with that. What do you think ?
My scripting language's scripts will be like this:
[ADB] reboot; ( Calls adb reboot command )
[FASTBOOT] oem unlock;
And here is a rooting script in my mind:
[FASTBOOT] oem unlock;
[FLASH R] [FILENAME:twrp.img];
[MESSAGE] Put your device to sideload mode.;
[SIDELOAD] [FILENAME:root.zip]
[ADB] reboot;
So noobs can use ADB and Fastboot commands without using CMD. .When user openes .myscript file with notepad, he/she will see that codes.
Thanks for your help...
Sorry to burst your bubble but this is a rediculous idea!
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but this is a rediculous idea!
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Why? I don't think so..
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yashade2001 said:
Why? I don't think so..
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I know you don't think so but think first.
Is your script gonna setup adb for these users?
Is it gonna know what phone or tablet or version of android each is running?
Has it error checking?
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Explain to me please,
You talk about noobs not being able to use adb or flashboot but you expect them to be able to run your imaginary scripting language with your own imaginary extension (which makes no sense).
It's obvious that you know NOTHING about scripting or programming.
Leave this stuff to the experts.
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I know you don't think so but think first.
Is your script gonna setup adb for these users?
Is it gonna know what phone or tablet or version of android each is running?
Has it error checking?
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The tools exist to do all this and they work well. Reinvent the wheel if you want, just make sure it's not square!
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Look man, I have not got an idea for how. I am about learning. Even i don't know how can i write a scripting language. Your opinion is not bad but i know i can do this..
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Edit: I know i can not give very good ideas but idea is just an idea. Keep it easy.
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Look man, I have not got an idea for how. I am about learning. Even i don't know how can i write a scripting language. Your opinion is not bad but i know i can do this..
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Edit: I know i can not give very good ideas but idea is just an idea. Keep it easy.
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It's an idea but not a good one! It's funny that you even think you need to invent a scripting language and extensions! It really is very funny!
I suggest you start with "Hello World" and work your way up. You'll soon see how stupid an idea this is.
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It's an idea but not a good one! It's funny that you even think you need to invent a scripting language and extensions! It really is very funny!
I suggest you start with "Hello World" and work your way up. You'll soon see how stupid an idea this is.
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Thanks for opinions... But that is YOUR opinion.
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Edit: So Adam Outler's casual is a stupid idea in your case, right?
yashade2001 said:
Thanks for opinions... But that is YOUR opinion.
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Edit: So Adam Outler's casual is a stupid idea in your case, right?
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Hahahaa - you compare your idea to Adam Outler's?
You silly child!
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Hahahaa - you compare your idea to Adam Outler's?
You silly child!
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I say, just an idea. Keep it easy. I am not comparing this sh*t with casual. And stop giving damn negative energy. This is my idea and i am saying this is a good idea in my case. Your opinion is good, but I am saying mine is better. But i like yours, that means you should like my idea even if you hate this. I know this is not a super idea and i am not Koushik Dutta. I just wanna make it. Are you understanding me? I am saying yeah this is not a good idea. But idea is just an idea. Keep it easy. But you are saying you are wrong i am right.
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I say, just an idea. Keep it easy. I am not comparing this sh*t with casual. And stop giving damn negative energy. This is my idea and i am saying this is a good idea in my case. Your opinion is good, but I am saying mine is better. But i like yours, that means you should like my idea even if you hate this. I know this is not a super idea and i am not Koushik Dutta. I just wanna make it. Are you understanding me? I am saying yeah this is not a good idea. But idea is just an idea. Keep it easy. But you are saying you are wrong i i am right. I just wanna give some energy from others to do this. Especially positive energy...
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I await eagerly the opinion of others.
Firstly, you don't need to invent any scripting language - you just have to know how to script.
Secondly, you don't need to invent any extensions.
Thirdly, adb is super simple to use, even for noobs.
Lastly, It would be impossible for you to setup adb for all devices.
But hey - I'm not stopping you.. if you still think this is a good idea, message Adam and ask his opinion. With something this groundbreaking and astoundingly clever I'm sure he'll be delighted to work with you on the project!
Personally I've better things to do.
I understand where you're coming from and but I agree with the tactless poster above, it is not necessary nor would it accomplish what you think it would
If you are interested in making things easier along the lines of adb and fastboot, maybe consider making a GUI for this with simple buttons for new users to press. Some already exist and the interface on most could use updating but it may be a better and more useful step (and one that would actually work in reality)
But I stand by the mantra that if you give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime
In other words simplifying often leads to ignorance and more trouble in the future, best thing to do is to direct new users to guides in hopes they can understand more clearly what they want to accomplish
But kudos to you for thinking outside the box, just in this case I'm afraid your idea won't work as you hope
Best of luck in future endeavors!
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Scripting languages have what's called an "interpreter." You have to write the interpreter in native code, something the underlying OS understands. For Android that might be C or Java. The interpreter reads your script (which can be structured however your heart desires), then it's actually the interpreter that executes the commands.
The OP is being naive, not ridiculous. We've all been at the point. There's no shame in that.
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I await eagerly the opinion of others.
Firstly, you don't need to invent any scripting language - you just have to know how to script.
Secondly, you don't need to invent any extensions.
Thirdly, adb is super simple to use, even for noobs.
Lastly, It would be impossible for you to setup adb for all devices.
But hey - I'm not stopping you.. if you still think this is a good idea, message Adam and ask his opinion. With something this groundbreaking and astoundingly clever I'm sure he'll be delighted to work with you on the project!
Personally I've better things to do.
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Thanks man. But i wanna make my 'own' ... Thanks anyway.
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I understand where you're coming from and but I agree with the tactless poster above, it is not necessary nor would it accomplish what you think it would
If you are interested in making things easier along the lines of adb and fastboot, maybe consider making a GUI for this with simple buttons for new users to press. Some already exist and the interface on most could use updating but it may be a better and more useful step (and one that would actually work in reality)
But I stand by the mantra that if you give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime
In other words simplifying often leads to ignorance and more trouble in the future, best thing to do is to direct new users to guides in hopes they can understand more clearly what they want to accomplish
But kudos to you for thinking outside the box, just in this case I'm afraid your idea won't work as you hope
Best of luck in future endeavors!
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Yeah, I already made AndRootKit for adb and fastboot gui. But this is a different thing. With this, user installs a program for running special scripts. Like xposed. exactly like xposed framework. Xposed framework runs modules, and there is many module devs... In other words: I want to build a car with not Diesel or Unleaded. I want to make my own gas... who do I build an engine that uses my gas only... And one more thing; I don't wanna make a big project like casual. Just wanna make my "own". Just for fun and maybe it will be a big project...
Edit: Hey, i found this article : http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/376631/How-to-make-your-own-file-type-for-your-Csharp-app . I know c# ok no porblem but that article only teaches how to open a custom file. I'm looking for "how to RUN ( Execute ) a custom file type"... Thanks for your help....
OK guys everything is ok. Just making commands for scripting language. The hardest thing is finding a name
yashade2001 said:
Yeah, I already made AndRootKit for adb and fastboot gui. But this is a different thing. With this, user installs a program for running special scripts. Like xposed. exactly like xposed framework. Xposed framework runs modules, and there is many module devs... In other words: I want to build a car with not Diesel or Unleaded. I want to make my own gas... who do I build an engine that uses my gas only... And one more thing; I don't wanna make a big project like casual. Just wanna make my "own". Just for fun and maybe it will be a big project...
Edit: Hey, i found this article : http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/376631/How-to-make-your-own-file-type-for-your-Csharp-app . I know c# ok no porblem but that article only teaches how to open a custom file. I'm looking for "how to RUN ( Execute ) a custom file type"... Thanks for your help....
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I don't believe you have made these or that you can code either. If you could then you'd know basics like you can make ANY file executable in linux and android.
Moral - don't try to bull**** a bull****ter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399385 this is thread of androotkit. I know C# and why do you don't belive me?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399385 this is thread of androotkit. I know C# and why do you don't belive me?
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Not one report of success with that program of yours from the thread you linked. Not one.
If you can't make flashboot work with sony devices then yeah you can't code. I stand by my statement.
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Not one report of success with that program of yours from the thread you linked. Not one.
If you can't make flashboot work with sony devices then yeah you can't code. I stand by my statement.
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Come on dude what do u saying? I have no problem with u. And i'm designing my scripting language now...
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Don't worry about the haters, although I do agree that what you're trying to accomplish won't work I hope it does somehow. People should be encouraged to think outside the box
There is such a thing as constructive criticism and then there's being a ****, don't listen to the ****
Keep up the good work and hopefully something pans out, you learn something new even if it doesnt
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